NCAA skiing: Strong finish on final day propels Utes to national championship

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  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    March 14, 2017 5:33 p.m.

    Just the FAX:

    Your tears over yet another national championship for your big brother on the hill are delicious!

  • Just the FAX Olympus Cove, Utah
    March 14, 2017 2:49 p.m.

    VegasUte

    "Please tell me where the ski resorts are by Stanford, UCLA, USC, Ohio St & PSU?"

    Who cares "why" schools don't have coed ski teams, the point is, hardly anybody does so there's practically no competition.

    Men's volleyball dwarfs coed skiing in both popularity and level of competition.

    The truth is, it's more difficult to win the MPSF men's volleyball championship, than it is to win the PAC 12 South football championship, and it's more difficult to win the PAC 12 South, than it is to win an NCAA coed skiing championship.

  • Just the FAX Olympus Cove, Utah
    March 14, 2017 2:40 p.m.

    VegasUte

    "What is the reason there are so few men's volleyball teams?"

    Two words: Title IX

    There are nearly as many women's volleyball teams as there are basketball teams, but many schools don't have men's volleyball teams so they can use their women's team to balance out scholarships.

    If volleyball is so "boring", why is it one of THE most popular sports in the Summer Olympics?

    BYU averages 3000 to 4000 fans for every home volleyball match.

    The NCAA doesn't even publish the attendance for coed skiing because it's so minuscule.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    March 14, 2017 2:38 p.m.

    @phantomblade:

    "Because BYU would rather use their resources to compete in a sport that actually has some legitimate competition"

    Translation: byu can't ski on Sunday

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    March 14, 2017 2:36 p.m.

    Y is the little brother - Sandy, UT

    Please tell me where the ski resorts are by Stanford, UCLA, USC, Ohio St & PSU? You forgot to name all the other men's volleyball powerhouses - like Lewis & CSUN.

    There is nothing geographically or seasonally that would inhibit schools from playing men's volleyball. Yet - you can only name a handful (literally) of schools that anyone cares about that actually fields a team.

    Go Utes!

    Ever onward!

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    March 14, 2017 2:25 p.m.

    @DeepBlue:

    "So can men's basketball be played anywhere there's a hoop"

    Thank you! You just made my point. Every school has a basketball team - every school. There are about 330 division 1 teams alone. How many schools have a men's volleyball team (not counting intramural)? Skiing takes a huge commitment by a school AND needs an actual mountain with a ski resort nearby to be able to compete. That is why there aren't many ski programs in the nation. What is the reason there are so few men's volleyball teams? Total snooze fest and lack of interest.

    Face it - if ski tournaments did not always take place on Sunday, byu would have a ski team too, and you would be loving it.

    Thanks, once again, to all you cougars proving that there Utah County does care about, and supports Utah's ski team. After all, it is Utah's world.

    Go Utes!

    Loving that cougar obsession!

  • Just the FAX Olympus Cove, Utah
    March 14, 2017 2:03 p.m.

    Navel Vet

    "Irrelevant. Just because the Utah and Colorado schools are so much more dominant than the others..."

    LOL at your spin...

    It's the Colorado schools that are dominant!

    Utah is a distant 3rd and Vermont an even more distant 4th in what is literally nothing more than a four-team competition dominated by tiny Denver.

    NCAA Skiing Championships
    Denver 22
    Colorado 18
    Utah 11
    Vermont 6

    It's hilarious how you completely ignored citing the last time Utah's men won a national championship...

    obviously, because it's so embarrassing to have to admit that U have only won ONE...

    from FOUR decades ago!

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    March 14, 2017 10:58 a.m.

    Just the FAX:

    "U won a coed championship in the least competitive NCAA sport."

    Irrelevant. Just because the Utah and Colorado schools are so much more dominant than the others, that doesn't mean it's "less competitive". That's like saying college football had become "less competitive" in the 21st century since most of this centuries NCs have been won by teams residing in the Southeast. But that's just simply not the case. The "game" didn't get "less competitive". It's just that the teams in the Southeast have just been "more dominant".

    "Remind us the last time a Utah men's team won a national championship."

    Irrelevant again. The Pac-12 isn't the "Conference of Men's Champions". It's the "Conference of Champions". So a "women's" NC is just as relevant as a "men's" NC in that capacity. Cougar fans' penchant for cherry picking metrics, while simultaneously excluding those very metrics that HAVE been met, is extremely illogical.

  • Just the FAX Olympus Cove, Utah
    March 14, 2017 9:56 a.m.

    Naval Vet

    U won a coed championship in the least competitive NCAA sport.

    Remind us the last time a Utah men's team won a national championship.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    March 13, 2017 11:43 p.m.

    Y's little brother:

    Utah just won our 21st national championship, and the "Conference of Champions" just picked up its 494th. Your tears are delicious.

    Did the Big 12 call yet?

    No?

    In that case....Haha!

    Midmajors forever.

  • DeepBlue Anaheim, CA
    March 13, 2017 10:21 p.m.

    VegasUte

    "Skiing takes a lot of time, money, travel, dedication and an actual mountain with snow on it. Men's volleyball can be played on every church multipurpose court, at any elementary school and in some people's back yards."

    So can men's basketball be played anywhere there's a hoop, yet trying to compare a BYU volleyball player, with a 48" vertical leap who can hit OVER a triple block from behind the 10' line, to your typical jungle volleyball player is ludicrous.

    BYU averages between 3000 and 4000 fans every home volleyball match.

    The NCAA doesn't even publish attendance figures for coed skiing because it would be too embarrassing.

  • Y's little brother Sandy, UT
    March 13, 2017 7:11 p.m.

    VegasUte

    Coed skiing is a dying sport in which Denver and Colorado are the only real competitors, with Utah and Vermont having occassional flashes of competitiveness.

    Since 1954, SEVEN teams have won every championship, with only ONE first-time winner since 1985.

    Men's volleyball is a growing sport in which some of the best overall athletic programs in the country compete - Stanford, UCLA, BYU, USC, Ohio St, Penn St and BYU.

    Since 1970, a DOZEN different teams have won National Championships, TEN have won multiple championships, with FIVE first-time winners since 1999.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    March 13, 2017 4:45 p.m.

    byu fans posting once again:

    Skiing >>>>>>> men's volleyball, any day.

    Skiing takes a lot of time, money, travel, dedication and an actual mountain with snow on it. Men's volleyball can be played on every church multipurpose court, at any elementary school and in some people's back yards. All you need is a ball and a net.

    Thanks for caring so much about Utah's latest NCAA NC that you took the time to come here and post. We appreciate your dedication to all things Utah!

    Go Utes!

    Onward!

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    March 13, 2017 1:49 p.m.

    @talkinsports
    "Guaranteed, the vast majority of college sports fans didn't even realize that the NCAA skiing championship meet happened last week."

    Most couldn't tell you what months of the year mens volleyball plays.

  • chicagoborn Philadelphia, PA
    March 13, 2017 11:41 a.m.

    @BYU fans in this thread
    I understand that you don't care. That's evident by the fact that you took the time to comment on this article saying how much you don't care. The inferiority complex is alive and well in Provo.

  • Jackie Treehorn St George, UT
    March 13, 2017 11:27 a.m.

    LOL so we have, thus far, 5 posters who think so little of and are so disinterested in skiing that they have gone out of their way to read an article about and soapboxed their disinterest in it. Honestly the exact opposite of how I treat events I care nothing about. Do you also go onto handball blogs to tell participants that you (such an important online presence) don't care about handball and that hardly anyone shows up to watch them play?

  • Jackie Treehorn St George, UT
    March 13, 2017 11:07 a.m.

    talkin: "very little interest in coed skiing"

    And yet here you are...

    Mark: "NCAA skiing isn't even on the radar of the vast majority of college sports fans."

    But it's dead center on yours...

  • Marked it Down Park City, UT
    March 13, 2017 10:36 a.m.

    Despite the feigned "interest" from Utah skiing fans, it's doubtful that any of them have ever attended a Utah skiing meeting or watched the NCAA skiing championships on television.

    Like most sports fans, the ONLY time they actually watch skiing competitions is during the Winter Olympics every four years.

    NCAA skiing isn't even on the radar of the vast majority of college sports fans.

  • talkinsports Gilbert, AZ
    March 13, 2017 9:44 a.m.

    chicagoborn

    "I find watching skiing much more enjoyable than watching men's volleyball"

    Be honest: How many NCAA skiing events did you attend this season? How many hours did you spend watching the NCAA skiing championship meet last week?

  • talkinsports Gilbert, AZ
    March 13, 2017 9:21 a.m.

    JohnInSLC

    "Yeah, why compete in a sport that more people participate in recreationally[sic] that all other BYU sports put together?"

    Thanks for the non sequitur.

    It's quite obvious that there's virtually no competition and very little interest in coed skiing, which is why the NCAA was forced to make it a coed sport over 30 years ago, just to keep the sport alive.

    Guaranteed, the vast majority of college sports fans didn't even realize that the NCAA skiing championship meet happened last week.

  • Jackie Treehorn St George, UT
    March 13, 2017 6:50 a.m.

    "There's so little interest in coed skiing, that it's not even televised."

    Yet here you are...

  • chicagoborn Philadelphia, PA
    March 13, 2017 5:40 a.m.

    @phantomblade
    I find watching skiing much more enjoyable than watching men's volleyball but that's just my opinion. If you think skiing isn't worth BYU's time, why are you even commenting on this article?

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 13, 2017 2:05 a.m.

    "Because BYU would rather use their resources to compete in a sport that actually has some legitimate competition and that fans actually care about watching."

    fantom:

    Yeah, why compete in a sport that more people participate in recreationally that all other BYU sports put together?

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    March 12, 2017 9:33 p.m.

    Haha! phantomblade is reeling over another national championship for the U. I think that brings us to 21, and "The Conference of Champions" -- who "Didn't want BYU" -- to 494!

    Sweet!

  • phantomblade Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 12, 2017 9:01 p.m.

    chicagoborn

    "If it's so easy to win a national championship in skiing, then why doesn't BYU put together a team?"

    Because BYU would rather use their resources to compete in a sport that actually has some legitimate competition and that fans actually care about watching.

    BYU men's volleyball averages between 3,000 and 4,000 fans and BYU competes against USC, UCLA, Stanford, Ohio St, Penn St, and many other men's volleyball powerhouses.

    Hardly anybody actually attends coed ski meets and Utah competes against Denver and Colorado. There's so little interest in coed skiing, that it's not even televised.

  • chicagoborn Philadelphia, PA
    March 12, 2017 4:19 p.m.

    @Marked it Down
    If it's so easy to win a national championship in skiing, then why doesn't BYU put together a team? The cougars are smart enough to avoid competing against the Utes in skiing.

  • Marked it Down Park City, UT
    March 12, 2017 12:03 p.m.

    timid sparrow

    "It's ironic that those who are making fun of Utah winning an NCAA title in a minor sport without a ton of participating schools are fans of a school that brags about how many ballroom dance titles it's won."

    Despite your sarcasm, coed skiing is by far the minor sport with THE LEAST competition - basically a 3 or 4 team competition EVERY year - 57 of the 62 championships (92%) have been won by Denver, Colorado, Utah or Vermont, with only TWO of those teams from a P5 conference.

    The truth may hurt, but you absolutely can not cite another college sport with less competition for a COED championship.

    btw, I've never read a single post from a BYU fan trying to claim that BYU's Ballroom Dance or Dance Team championships should count as athletic championships.

    Utah is smart enough not to even try competing against the Cougarettes.

  • Seldom Seen Smith Orcutt, CA
    March 12, 2017 12:00 p.m.

    I attended the U because it's "the greatest ski college in the known universe". It's cool and fitting seeing them win the NCAA skiing championship. The results of skiing competition is extremely objective, unlike football or basketball where the subjective opinion of the referees has a huge impact on the outcome of the game, making these two sports almost unwatchable in this regard. Plus (political correct police warning), the UU female skiers are nice looking. I'll proudly be part of the minority, those who prefer zooming down the side of a snow covered mountain vs. watching men throw a ball through a hoop.

    Congratulations Utes!

  • xert Santa Monica, CA
    March 12, 2017 11:45 a.m.

    Big thanks and congrats to these National Champs for representing their great university and all of Utah.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    March 12, 2017 9:21 a.m.

    It's ironic that those who are making fun of Utah winning an NCAA title in a minor sport without a ton of participating schools are fans of a school that brags about how many ballroom dance titles it's won.

  • Jackie Treehorn St George, UT
    March 12, 2017 7:51 a.m.

    There certainly seem to be a good amount of poor sports here, which is odd because the school they profess to support doesn't have a team. Why not just...move along?

    Congrats to the NCAA Champion Utes! Took a lot of clutch performances in difficult circumstances to do it, so there can't be any more elating feeling for the guys and gals on the team than finally bringing the trophy home.

  • Diligent Dave Logan, UT
    March 11, 2017 7:59 p.m.

    Go Utah!!!

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    March 11, 2017 7:48 p.m.

    Good contribution to the Conference of Champions.

  • everything is awesome Cedar City, UT
    March 11, 2017 7:46 p.m.

    "The sport has been a co-ed competition since 1983. The Utes now have 10 of those titles — more than any other school."

    Thanks for the spin DN.

    NCAA Skiing Championships
    Denver 22
    Colorado 18
    Utah 11
    Vermont 6
    Dartmouth 2
    Wyoming 2
    New Mexico 1

    The coed skiing "national" championship is basically a three-team competition,

    with Vermont occasionally factoring into the mix.

    Denver, Colorado and Utah have won 51 of 62 championships (82%).

  • let's roll LEHI, UT
    March 11, 2017 6:19 p.m.

    Congrats to the Utes.

  • Ufan Salt Lake City, UT
    March 11, 2017 6:18 p.m.

    Congratulations to the Utes on beating Denver, Colorado to win a coed championship.