Will Bears Ears National Monument get funded?

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  • Hank Jr Deer Ridge, UT
    March 10, 2017 8:51 a.m.

    @ GaryO - Virginia Beach, VA & Onion Daze - Payson, UT...

    You are both correct in stating that we don't live in a Banana Republic anymore.

    The Obama Regime is done and gone.

    Thanks for pointing that out.

  • dski HERRIMAN, UT
    March 10, 2017 6:42 a.m.

    I am very surprised at the sudden concerns about the rights of our Native Americans as both sides are debating the Bears Ears benefit for Utah. From the original thirteen states to the expansion to the West, just about every treaty signed with the Native American Nations had been ignored and violated by the government. These violations were mostly engineered and driven by the settlers' demand for more land and fewer natives in sight. Now that the disagreement is between conservationists and States' rights, the Natives' rights has conveniently become a part of the debate. The Reservations where they live is a sad place to be. Unemployment is high and other social problems are prevalence, compounded by lack of support and funding that was promised in those mentioned treaties. Do we hear any protest or support for the Natives for their ill treatment and misery? It seems our sudden concern for them is not genuine but by self interest. I hope these folks will support the Natives in their efforts to be provided all that were promised to them when those treaties were signed. Both sides are right. But, which right is better? I do not think I have a dog in this fight.

  • Steve G. NORTH SALT LAKE, UT
    March 8, 2017 2:18 a.m.

    I can't for the life of me figure what our governor and congressional delegation are thinking. The land where Bears Ears sits is mostly federal. The federal government doesn't have to ask permission of the states to do anything with their land. It would be like your neighbor walking across the street and telling you what to do with your yard. It's not his so he can't determine what is done with it. I don't know where our so-called leaders have been for the last few years. They should know that these lands are under the administration of the the United States Government. It was an agreement that these lands remain federal in order for Utah to become a state. Where have you been people, this is not new. The feds have no obligation to do anything the state says. There are a lot of states that would love to have a new national monument with the federal government paying for the maintenance and upkeep. Utah's so-called leaders don't truly represent the majority of its citizens. Take a look at this post, there are more supporters than those against. It is the same with other posts I've seen. Give up this ridiculous notion, it is an embarrassment to our state.

  • Sanefan Wellsville, UT
    March 7, 2017 9:29 p.m.

    Don't ya love how folks in the east like to tell us how to live. Get involved in their politics and they go beset. Hmm, let's see, where did the colonization and take over of native lands/artifacts first take place. It wasn't Utah. Again, evidence of liberal hypocrisy. It's on display multiple times daily and needs to be exposed.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    March 7, 2017 7:46 p.m.

    Onion Daze, I'm afraid that in this case, the spoils really DO go to the victor.

    And now he's trying his best to spoil the entire nation.

    Heck, he might even spoil the entire planet.

    The election coming in two years might be a real shock to the GOP and the people who have purchased their services. I sincerely hope so.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    March 7, 2017 7:41 p.m.

    How about if we just defund Chaffetz?

  • Giles Goat-Boy Monticello, UT
    March 7, 2017 2:56 p.m.

    "The difference is under Bishops's and Chaffet'z proposal you would still be able to mine and drill, under the National Monument designation you can't."

    That's false.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    March 7, 2017 2:10 p.m.

    "We firmly believe that these decisions are best made locally, not by lame-duck presidents . . . " - Jason Chaffetz

    In other words, Jason Chaffetz feels no respect or reverence at all for the U.S. Constitution. We shouldn't be surprised, should we? His allies, Putin and the Russians, feel EXACTLY the same way.

    Hey Hank Jr -

    " . . . with the victor goes the spoils . . ."

    Good point! Spoils are STOLEN goods. When Democrats win, there are NO "spoils."

    Is it any wonder that such an accomplished fraud, cheat, and thief is the LEADER of the GOP?

    When Trump won, the Russians and a few American plutocrats won, but we the people of the United States lost.

    We lost that battle, but that does not mean we will lose the war.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    March 7, 2017 2:01 p.m.

    The National Park Service and the Antiquities Act (under which Bears Ears Monument was designated) were BOTH started by Republican POTUS Theodore Roosevelt. He saw firsthand the massive killing of animals and overgrazing and crafted these laws. GW Bush also designated millions of acres as federal land to protect it.

    TR said: "We have become great because of the lavish use of our resources. But the time has come to inquire seriously what will happen when our forests are gone, when the coal, the iron, the oil, and the gas are exhausted, when the soils have still further impoverished and washed into the streams, polluting the rivers, denuding the fields and obstructing navigation."

    It is only the Cro Magnon tendencies of the new Trump-GOP who want to bring us back to the 1800's and mine-drill-frack the land, giving it to their wealthy contributors.

    I implore the D-News to tell us who are the largest GOP contributors in these districts. I want to understand why the huge rush to revert these designations when the majority of the public want these lands preserved.

    Hands off!!!

  • taatmk West Jordan, UT
    March 7, 2017 1:54 p.m.

    Not all Utahns support the designation. Its NOT the best way to preserve the area. How many people legitimately even knew of the area's resources until it became publicized? Now, areas that were preserved through anonymity are going to get "loved" to death from increased visitation to the 10th power. The notoriety achieved now has probably already doomed the place, much to the sadness of all who knew, past tense, the solitude of the area.

  • andyjaggy American Fork, UT
    March 7, 2017 12:22 p.m.

    Obama did listen to the locals, the boundaries he chose for Bears Ears are almost 100% the same as the boundaries that Bishop and Chaffetz came up with in their proposal. Had he not listened he would have gone with the much larger proposed boundaries that the native Americans were requesting.

    The difference is under Bishops's and Chaffet'z proposal you would still be able to mine and drill, under the National Monument designation you can't. Of course I'm sure the fact that Bishop get's something like 80% of his campaign donations from out of state oil companies has nothing to do with anything, it's just a random coincidence.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    March 7, 2017 9:50 a.m.

    It's still a national monument. The hissy fit of these people will result in neglect of a federal asset, not a change in status. Did you see the op-ed piece that the Republicans are not capable of governing? Talk about being dead on. Governing by tantrum.

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    March 7, 2017 9:35 a.m.

    If the latest attempt to de-legitimize BENM is successful, it sounds like a non-profit, tax-deductible foundation needs to be established to support the Native American tribes' effort to protect Bears Ears. Leonardo DiCaprio set the example with his donation, which infuriated the powers-that-be, in Utah.

    A lot of liberals don't go to church, and might be persuaded to donate to this worthy cause, providing church-going, lower tax paying conservatives a taste of their own medicine, as federal revenue shortfalls threaten things like the F-35 fighter program, which disproportionately benefits Utah.

    Native Americans vs Utah Republicans - Game On!

  • Turtles Run Houston, TX
    March 7, 2017 8:16 a.m.

    I often disagree with Chaffetz but on this one he is right on point. To designate national monument or other protected status without regard to the input of local citizenry is flat out wrong.

    The land belongs to all Americans. The Native Tribes that requested this designation have the only interest at stake here and were within their right to request the designation. If they felt the state of Utah would have been better suited to protecting the land they would have asked them to do so. Instead the tribes felt Obama was their best option.

    As for the local citizens, they have no more say in this matter than some one like me that lives in Texas or a New Yorker.

  • Giles Goat-Boy Monticello, UT
    March 7, 2017 8:04 a.m.

    Frankly I don't know why the GOP feels the need to make a production of "defunding" BENM. It was never going to be adequately funded, no matter the POTUS. Look at Canyons of the Ancients or the national park and monument system in general. That was always one of the main reasons for opposition: you significantly increase the visitation by rebranding it a monument and the funding to manage the increase forever lags behind.

    Popularization =/= Protection.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    March 7, 2017 7:56 a.m.

    @Hank Jr.
    "Congress will overturn the Obama Regime's decision to shove Bear;s Ears down our throats."
    Highly unlikely. There are many GOP Senators (Colorado, & Eastern States), who would never support a repeal. They represent their constituents, and they love their public lands and the protection of them. Utah Republicans are in a minority with their anti environment record and attacks on public land management.

  • IceCreamGhost Sandy, UT
    March 7, 2017 2:05 a.m.

    I'm a lifelong Republican with a middle class income. I will never amass a great fortune or large amounts of property. The one treasure I have in this life is that I have access to the wilderness and it's why I've chosen Utah as my home.

    I understand that this is and argument of how the land is managed. That the feds and state have different approaches towards logging and mining and what is allowed and that is fine to debate it. All I ask is that they dont pollute it and destroy the habitat. Please take a long-view approach and dont bend for a quick buck that might have lasting effects.

  • Onion Daze Payson, UT
    March 6, 2017 10:17 p.m.

    "...Trump won, and with the victor goes the spoils."

    "the spoils".

    We do not live in a "Banana Republic".

    See Hank Jr @ 8:37 p.m.

  • Tuffy Parker Salem, UT
    March 6, 2017 9:29 p.m.

    Is Bears Ears worthy of some protection? Yes, but not 1.3 million acres worth.

    Collaborative legislation is what Governor Herbert, Congressman Chaffetz and others have sought from the onset. Liberal groups fear collaboration because it means that they will not get everything they want and will likely be precluded from creating a private playground rather than agreeing to mixed use that will benefit nearly everyone to some degree.

    I often disagree with Chaffetz but on this one he is right on point. To designate national monument or other protected status without regard to the input of local citizenry is flat out wrong.

  • Onion Daze Payson, UT
    March 6, 2017 9:26 p.m.

    In today's hard-copy DN was an article about Utah Lake. The land beneath that body of water is owned by the State of Utah. The polluted situation at Utah Lake brings in to question the validity of the following statement from this Bears Ears article.

    "We, along with state and local officials, and the residents of San Juan County, are committed to ensuring that the Bears Ears region is protected and productive. We firmly believe that these decisions are best made locally, not by lame-duck presidents,"

    Raw sewage was going into Utah Lake as late as 1967. Not all local decisions are of the highest quality.

  • libs think what??? Salt Lake City, UT
    March 6, 2017 9:19 p.m.

    it's a shame liberals still think they run the place, and anyone who disagrees with them and doesn't do what they want is evil. don't fund it. it provides no more protection anyway.

    I am very content with our congressional delegation, with the exception of hatch. if every state sent a delegation like ours the entire nation would be in much better condition.

  • Hank Jr Deer Ridge, UT
    March 6, 2017 8:37 p.m.

    Will Bears Ears National Monument get funded?

    Short Answer.......

    NO

    And for a good reason. Hillary lost the election, Trump won, and with the victor goes the spoils.
    Congress will overturn the Obama Regime's decision to shove Bear;s Ears down our throats.

    Now Get Used To It

  • Utah Girl Chronicles Eagle Mountain, UT
    March 6, 2017 7:50 p.m.

    It's a shame these GOP politicians can't take their obsession for serving their mineral and oil extraction masters and apply that obsession to more Head Start funding, higher reading scores, or reducing classroom sizes.

    Instead they insist on tarnishing our state's reputation every time they open their mouth.

  • Kaotic USA, UT
    March 6, 2017 7:27 p.m.

    Let's keep Bears Ears and get rid of some overpaid and dysfunctional politicians that reside in Utah and DC.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    March 6, 2017 6:52 p.m.

    Not only do Utah GOP politicians ignore their constituents, they go out of their way to alienate them. Pretty sad when Republican politicians, in the reddest of the red states, are afraid to face their voters. Time for sweeping changes.