Sis. Dalton never said ALL the marchers were behaving in ways unbecoming of
Daughters of God. She said she saw some marchers in New York City behaving that
way. She was merely commenting on what she SAW. And that is what I SAW as I
watched the news of the marches in NYC and Washington DC. It's amazing how
so many women are willing to EXCUSE the behavior of the women who were dressed
in gross outfits and yelling profanities, as well as those who were marching in
favor of abortion. Yes, there were some women who were not protesting in this
way or marching in favor of abortion, but many were. They use their disapproval
of Pres. Trump's behavior or remarks as an EXCUSE for the behavior of
ANYONE who was marching. These critics of Sis. Dalton say they were marching for
virtue. Little do they realize that they were marching for other things, such as
abortion, as well, just by participating. She wasn't calling out ALL the
women's marchers, just commenting on what she saw. In today's
political climate a well-meaning person like Sis. Dalton cannot even comment on
what she sees without her remarks being blown out of proportion or interpreted
into something she didn't say at all.
Sister Dalton literally said "all of those women" when she was
criticizing the protesters. I protested at the Women's March on behalf of
women who are oversexualized and for women who are assaulted. I also marched on
behalf of refugees and immigrants who we are turning our backs on. I was not
unladylike at all. I simply marched because I care about people and I want the
government and others to support them (which is something I do in my private
life as well, through volunteer work.)To be quite honest, I would
rather surround myself with unladylike women who protest against sexual assault
than surround myself with polite women who quietly ignore such behavior.
We support your words 100%, Sis. Dalton. Thanks so much for having the courage
to be honest and consistent, even when that comes with a penalty.
Sister Dalton was 100% correct that “there has never been a time like
this" & never has the “opposition be greater.” She was also
right that there is “so much hope” in the “change-the-world
generation.” Years of reciting the Young Women values caused us to
internalized them. So, we marched with F-a-i-t-h that we could inspire change
& build a kinder America for all of God’s Children.I
marched to teach my daughter that she has a D-i-v-i-n-e N-a-t-u-r-e with
infinite potential to do difficult things & face powerful foes. I marched so
that she would know that her I-n-d-i-v-i-d-u-a-l W-o-r-t-h isn't dependent
on her looks or the approval of others.My family made a C-h-o-i-c-e
to march in support of vulnerable & marginalized communities, because we
knew that we would be A-c-c-o-u-n-t-a-b-l-e if we did not stand up & work
for the cause of justice. I consider our march a truly G-o-o-d W-o-r-k,
representative of our I-n-t-e-g-r-i-t-y. I could not look my Muslim &
immigrant neighbors in the eyes if I did not stand in solidarity with them.We did call “the world for a return to virtue” & our
record breaking, peaceful march has inspired a movement that continues to grow
& do good works.
I attended the fireside where Sister Elaine Dalton spoke last Sunday, and
I’ve been puzzled by the negative reactions to it. It seems animosity
towards Donald Trump has caused some people to impute meaning to Sister
Dalton’s comments, to put their mistaken interpretation into her mouth and
then criticize her for it. Her remarks about the Women’s March were not a
criticism of women standing for what they believe. In fact, one of the central
themes of her message was to applaud women for doing just that. On TV I saw
leaders of the Women’s March use fowl hateful language as a central part
of their message. I think this what Sister Dalton saw in NYC that made her
heart sink. The point is, both women and men should stand for their values in a
Christ-like—not a contentious or hateful—way, and this is what
Sister Dalton encouraged young adult women to do. Those who
“marched” in this manner should feel good about it, realize they
weren’t being criticized or shamed by her, and not feel a need to attack
and shame her in return. I’m so glad Elaine Dalton is brave enough to
speak up for virtue and chastity—ideals rejected by many today—and
willing to be the target of mockery because of it.
It is amazing how many people here missed the point entirely. Dalton
wasn't excusing any poor behavior thing about Trump. She, however, was
about advising young women to be virtuous in their own lives. The Women's
March was mostly a bunch of anger directed toward President Trump. Look
around, most of those women wanted nothing to do with virtue, life, and God.
They were angry and funneling their own anger toward something that could take
it, the Presidency of the United States. If most of these women really wanted
to make a difference, they would be home attending to the needs of their own
children, neighborhood, and life, not wasting time flailing away at Donald
Trump. I passed through Costco the other day and saw a book about the
Women's March. It was filled with vulgar, obscene, and hateful words,
rhetoric and anger. There was nothing that was 'praiseworthy or of good
report.' Anyone associated with that garbage ought to rethink what it is
they truly represent. Thank you to sister Dalton for representing virtue,
honesty, and goodness.
I deeply appreciate the comments, and the example, of Sis. Dalton. Truly, she
was prepared to lead the YW of the Church, "for such a time as this."
We have been blessed by her inspired leadership. I, too, was dismayed by much
of the content of the Women's Marches--the crude language, the angry,
ranting diatribes by "entertainers" who make $$ pedaling immorality, the
tawdry costuming, the cursing, etc. Were I to march in support of a return to
virtue, it would be under a different banner, with leaders who themselves
exemplify virtue, dignity, Grace, and the truly feminine. That Right-to Life
groups were excluded, is most telling of these organized protests. Thank you,
Sister Dalton, for reflecting the light of Christ, which "breaks through
clouds of strife," for pointing us to the Savior, whose goodness leads us to
"a better choice than evil's anguished cries."
Wow people. Read what she said. She never condemned protesting as a practice.
She didn't say that these people shouldn't be protesting Trump. She
didn't say that Trump is good or that he is bad. What she said
was that the protesters that she was were profane and not acting as a daughter
of God should act. She said that she would love to see them out marching for
virtue. So those of you that marched in the protest, if you were being
respectful and ladylike, I don't think her words are condemning you. I am amazed at how reluctant people are, when they hear words of
counsel, to look within and say, "Is it I?" Instead, people throw up
walls. I am constantly disappointed by people who put their political feelings
above religious conviction or even family connections. How many people struggle
with the church or their family because of their political outlook? Sad, warped
priorities. And people not willing to look within and ask if they can change or
improve. Instead, people castigate Sister Dalton. The
church's teachings are there to make us happy. They are not there to make
us jump through hoops or do a little dance.
I'm just curious if Ms. Dalton as outraged by Ivanka showing her bare
shoulders and bra strap last night.
Sister Dalton, a beautiful, courageous, and much admired church leader, has
influenced and strengthened for good a whole generation of young women. If she
saw and heard things demonstrated by the "marchers" that were not in
keeping with the standards of the church, then it is her right to warn and
speak out. My own personal thoughts concerning recent "marches" was
that while Trump's stupid and embarrassing remarks, made years ago, were
startling and terribly offensive, not a few, including men and women, would
rather certain chapters in our own lives not be recorded and aired. Sister
Dalton is right to suggest and champion for women the eternal value of
better/best behavior, actions, and speech. Lady like = characteristic,
suitable for a lady; refined, well bred
I am perplexed at Sister Dalton's tone, but giving her the benefit of
doubt,I think she is just ignorant of the facts and is just not well read. That
can be the only explanation as these woman were legally protesting a president
who bragged about being able to sexually assault women, who cheated on his
pregnant wife, who has engaged in dishonest business practices by not paying
small business contractors what they're owed. I don't want a president
who sexually assaults, who lies and cheats. He is also a draft dodger that does
not remember even which leg it is that got him out of the draft...oh yeah and he
lied he was at the top of his class at Wharton.I would have rather seen in
an ideal world her praising those marchers, praising the women who got women in
the Boston marathon----praising and encouraging women to protest Trumps ban on
immigrants as it wasn't that long ago that President Rutherford Hays
luckily for us did not ban Mormon immigrants from Europe who were called by some
Thank you Sister Dalton for your good words. I agree with you.
WE ARE DAUGHTERS of our Heavenly Father, who loves us, and we love Him. WE WILL
“STAND as witnesses of God at all times and in all things, and in all
places” (Mosiah 18:9) as we strive to live the Young Women values, which
are:Faith • Divine Nature • Individual Worth • Knowledge
• Choice and Accountability • Good Works • Integrity • and
Virtue.I marched because I believed in these words. The words we
teach YM to live by every week. How dare she diminish that.
Mother Eve would have been at the front of the march. Deborah the prophetess
would have been there in her chariot and with her sword. Virtue is about having
the courage, strength, honesty, passion and compassion to take a stand and raise
your voice and move your feet in pursuit and support of your most deeply held
principles. This fearless ACT, symbolized by the Women's March, is the
ultimate expression of love for oneself, for our children and for each other.
The war in heaven opened the door to these types of courageous choices. The war
in heaven closed the door in the face of he who would have canceled the march
and arrested everyone that attended. Lets be done with the shaming and the
assault on free agency. Love will always rule the day.
I am a Mormon mother of daughters, active in the church, who marched in the
Women's March after the inauguration, my family alongside me. Sister Dalton
said, "What would happen if all those women were marching and calling to the
world for a return to virtue?" But I was march for a return to virtue. We
have a president who bragged about being able to sexually assault women, who
cheated on his pregnant wife, who has engaged in dishonest business practices by
not paying small business contractors what they're owed. I don't want
a president who sexually assaults, who lies and cheats. I want a virtuous
president who takes their job seriously and who respects others. That is why I
marched, and why I took my daughters with me.
Disappointed to hear her esteem "ladylike" behavior above coming
together peacefully to protest. Those of us with daughters in the church are
worried about commentary like this. I'm raising strong women who will stand
strong against wrong. I'm not raising them to be ladylike. This is part of
the reason our church is hemorrhaging women. Forcing them to choose between
being ladylike and strong is a foolish choice to ask them to make. For my
generation, and certainly the generation of my teenaged daughters, strong trumps
ladylike every time, and thank goodness for that.
This is why I have such strong reservations about raising kids in the LDS
church. The message being sent is that it is more important to be lady-like than
to have a voice and stand up for your rights or those of others. It also sends
the message that being upset by the normalization of "locker room talk"
is not okay. This message, along with the anti-feminist sentiments expressed by
leaders of the church over many years, clearly speaks to the leader's
inability to hear an important message unless it is expressed in a manner
befitting their personal tastes. Frankly, it makes me sad and disappointed, but
I wonder if Sister Dalton realizes that it was women marching in the 60's
and 70's that enabled her to run in all those marathons, as well as some
brave women actually breaking the gender barrier and running in marathons when
it was forbidden. Men didn't just suddenly have an epiphany lift the
archaic rules in the early 70's. Maybe "unladylike"
behavior is good for something.
"You be fussy."Unless you're at a protest apparently...
The term 'ladylike' is problematic. Her use of it suggests that women
are supposed to put up and shut up. If you stand up and let your voice be
heard, well, that's 'unladylike'. If being a 'lady'
means that we stand silently by while we ourselves or women we love are
marginalized, assaulted, and abused, then I'm happy to call myself
Dear Sister Dalton, You said, "What would happen if all those women
were marching and calling to the world for a return to
virtue?’”...For my sisters and brothers who marched, this IS
why we marched.Standing for virtue is standing against sexual abuse and
misogyny. Standing for virtue is standing against mass deportations.Standing for virtue is standing against racism and xenophobia.Standing
for virtue is standing up for the poor and needy.Standing for virtue is
standing for free speech and liberty.Standing for virtue is standing for
freedom of religion for everyone.We marched to uphold virtue. This
IS our standard of liberty...“And it came to pass that [s]he
rent [her] coat; and [s]he took a piece thereof, and wrote upon it—In
memory of our God, our religion, and freedom, and our peace, our [families], and
our children—and [s]he fastened it upon the end of a pole.” –
Alma 46:12I felt love, sisterhood, compassion. I felt that people
were trying to bear one another’s burdens, to mourn with those who
mourn.My experience at the women’s march was nothing of what you
describe.I hope having this other perspective might help you to see why so
many women would march.
I proudly marched in Los Angeles. I think there is virtue in promoting equality
for women. I think there is virtue in pushing back against a man who sexually
assaults women (instead of just staying silent). I think there is virtue in
sticking up for marginalized groups. Strong women can still be women of virtue.
My son, daughter, and I marched in Park City. As I watched all of that take
place, my heart just sang and I thought to myself, ‘What would happen if
all the women and men in the world were marching and calling to the world for a
return to virtue, to equality, and to liberty for all?’”
Sister Dalton seems to have a very high esteem for the value of
"Virtue". Yet when women stood up and marched to protest the fact that
the new President has absolutely ZERO respect for women's virtue, Sister
Dalton calls the marchers "unladylike"?! Does Sister Dalton think
it's MORE "ladylike" to just meekly accept the fact that the new
President has a completely opposite view of the value of "Virtue" than
she and the women she was speaking to have? I Don't Get It.
It's very ironic Elaine Dalton chose to denigrate people protesting against
a man who brags about abusing women. Certainly she is aware of the
thousands of well-mannered women who turned out to the Utah State capital. Why
not mention them as examples of great behavior?
America has a President who has bragged about groping women and spoken about
women's bodies in a demeaning way. I hope Sister Dalton understands that
many of those women who marched after the inauguration against President Trump
comments and conduct toward women were marching for virtue.
I appreciated her comments on the women's march. I have family members and
good friends who have matched several times and matched with love and
"virtue". She would have been proud of them. And it sounds like the last
commenter and her daughter's did it with "virtue" too. Sister
dalton made no blanket statement of condemnation only sadness and regret for a
few she saw personally. And we won't know all she really said since this
is just a quick summary. Sister dalton is one of the most charitable and wise
women on this earth I believe. Let us not cast aspersions to her.
Breaks my heart she'd put down so many women who were marching for what
they felt was right. ... she tells us not to be so hard on ourselves while
judging millions of women around the world for marching. Sister Dalton,
thousands of Mormon women marched. Without women's marches throughout
history, including some irreverence, we'd not be able to vote as women, to
work, and to have so many rights we do. Let's lift ALL women up, not shame
some to make others and yourself feel better. Women are struggling for equality
all over the world, and this was a moment for women to stand in solidarity and
not judge anyone for their plights. Don't judge another if you haven't
walked in their shoes.
It is very disappointing to hear Sister Dalton characterize the women's
marches in this way. My daughters and I proudly marched for civic virtue at the
women's march in SLC on Jan 23. My participation was largely motived by my
belief in the principles of the gospel of Jesus Christ and my hope for a more