The Monument process was not a last minute surprise. It took years of coalition
building, communication and compromise. President Obama waited for the PLI to
get ratified and when nothing came of it, he designated the same areas mentioned
therein.ALL Utah residents have a stake in Bears Ears because the
development politicians want is mainly mineral extraction and mining. Did
we not just watch powerless as highly toxic water from the Gold King Mine in
Colorado made its way to Utah aquifers in Glen Canyon?We are all connected
by the air we breathe and the water we drink. What we do in one area
affects the health of others miles and miles away. Stop reducing this issue to a
squandered financial opportunity. There are many long term, good paying jobs to
be had. But we don't explore those options because our leaders are too busy
arguing ideological points. Last time I checked Utah was part of the
United States. The federal government is our government. We are in charge of
keeping all our leaders in check. No just the ones blaming Badgers for digging
up Native American artifacts.
The Federal government has over reached into Western States since they got
Statehood. It is the people of Utah that have the rights to those lands. Nobody
wants someone with little vested interest or who lives hundreds and thousands of
miles away to dictate their rights of the land in their jurisdictions.
Progressives are so quick to want to tell everyone what they should do with
their lives, property and rights. Where is the concept of pro-Choice when it
comes to your home lands? They speak with forked tongue.
The Outdoor Retailer show brings in more money into the state in one year than
the entire ranching community in San Juan has created since they arrived over a
100 years ago. Who has more leverage with our legislators? Why, the brethren
with the big hats and the closet full of Indian artifacts, that's who. The Monument hasn't destroyed and won't destroy any jobs. You
can't cite one fact to support that. Unless you're using alternative
facts that is. These are America's public lands, and Utah lost its
chance to influence the Monument process when Rob Bishop and Jason
Chaffetz's bungled the PLI and tried to run out the clock on resolving the
Perhaps the Utah State constitution has some language that can be used against
the local government, specifically article 3 , Ordinance
They state they will protect the native wishes. But where is the plan. The PLI
only said trust us. Where and why haven't they put something in place to
protect the artifacts. Yeah the state did a good job when the residents in
Blanding stole over 40,000 artifacts. All the legislatures did was yell that it
was federal overreach. The dude killed himself and then the campaign began in
ernst to blame his death on the overreach of the federal government... Why
didn't he have to be held accountable to the tribes. Where was the city of
Blanding and San Juan county proposing and showing how they will manage except
to open it up to ALL ATV's, mineral extraction,and fence it all off. Like
the Lyman Family did. No they want to pillage and not be caught again. No we
don't trust the state. Phil Lyman, and Mike Noel prove that.
It really comes down to a good portion of Utah residents do not trust our state
government and the local government in the area to protect our mutual interest.
We feel we have no voice with the state government. They pass laws in the
middle of the night without public input, or pass laws against the public will.
When they do have hearings like this they act like royalty that is humoring the
peasants. They should be representing all of us; not those who give them
campaign donations. I feel better having the federal government manage the land.
I do not trust the local leaders around the monuments who feel public land
belongs to them personally, and our state reps to protect the land. It is felt
they will just sell it to a developer that has given them a huge campaign
donation. and we will be locked out. If the state was responsive and answerable
to fellow Utahans; of course I would want local-state control. Unfortunately
they do pretty much whatever they want because they know they will be re-elected
anyway. There seems to be more checks and balances with federal control of the
@ Summit, you are just plain wrong. Locals have USED the lands, but the Federal
government has gone to great lengths to protect and manage it.
This land has always been under jurisdiction of the federal government. BLM, now
monument designation. Even so, it appears to have been protected primarily by
local people who have the most interest. It is pristine because the locals have
taken care of it and care about it. Put it back and let them continue doing the
fine job that they have. Good for our legislators who can see that.
The will of the people seems to be subordinate to the will of special
interests.Want to test whether Utahns support which side? Have a
All Utahns deserve a voice, even those not living on the Wasatch Front. I
support land conservation and yet I am from rural Utah and have seen firsthand
the devastation on families from not being able to find work in these beautiful
areas, my own included. I've also seen the work locals put into conserving
the land. Actually, the most disheartening thing has been on
holidays when people visit and leave messes behind, trash and graffiti, etc.
Most of those visitors are not local but from other places and appear to have no
idea how to treat wilderness.
Just think of how much nicer all these areas will look once they have oil jacks,
gas pad, and a few strip mines on them. But it's money. Trade our
birthright for a mess of pottage.
I'm glad the Legislature held a hearing on this, but I don't
understand why the Legislative leaders think they can control the outcome of a
National Monument designated by the President of the United States under the
Antiquities Act. Last time I checked, the United States Constitution and the
laws of the United States still constitute the supreme law of the land, thus a
mere resolution from the Utah Legislature saying "we don't want
it," has no effect. It might or might not be possible to "undo"
the designation, but that would be up to the current President or to the
Congress, would it not?
This statement should tell us everything, Noel Poe, with Escalante
Partners, disputed those ill effects [jobs] and cited a string of new hotels and
businesses opening in the region.So a job working in resource
extraction or a related industry is worth the same to them as a motel mattress
flipper or Starbucks barista? No wonder they were happy with Obama's
@homersThe rural legislators stick their nose in salt lakes business all
the time. You can't get through a legislative session without them rolling
back a law that SLC has created. As for the speakers comment about how wasatch
front people would feel different if it was land around them being locked
up....I guess he forgot about locking up 100s of acres in salt lake with the
unnecessary prison move.....
Obama truly knows how to leave things in a mess. I thank the legislature for
reeling this back in. I realize it's difficult to stand up to the far left
but it needs to happen. This should be a local decision and the majority of San
Juan have been clear from the start.
Mark me up as taxpaying citizen who is 100% for both monuments.
It was interesting looking at the pictures and reading the article that everyone
that spoke for it had some special interests, government wise, in it while
everyone that spoke against it was a citizen.
I am 100% behind this movement to rescind the Bears Ears fiasco and reduction or
elimination of the Stair Case thing. Furthermore, I feel that the ability for a
president (any president) to pull a stunt like this in the future should be
eliminated. Something of this magnitude should have public imput and then put
to a vote OF THE PEOPLE.
Schiozawa’s vote makes me proud to have him as my state senator.
I think the issue is not about setting aside lands for the greater public but
the method in which it is done. The needs of the many require the sacrifice of
the few. But, it doesn't really. Since the many benefit they can compensate
the few with better jobs and education over several generations to establish
good jobs and incomes in those areas so more people will stay.I
speak from my family's experience where my grandfather tried being one of
the first park rangers on the North Rim of the Grand Canyon when it was first
established. When he finally realized promises would not be kept our family and
many others moved away because families could not be supported and land had been
taken away and restricted reducing traditional income opportunities. And, we
also have Native American heritage in that area and cherish that land, but can
no longer practice our ceremonies or beliefs on that land.
As a resident of san juan and a real grassroots native, im ashamed of my people
that stand with beats ears. Mainly because they did not listen to any of the
real utah Navajo's the ones who actually live in utah, nor did they explain
what a monument truly does to our resources to our elders. These people that are
for the monument are only monumentally misinformed about how we live in this
area can we just make a poll for those for the monument and then put all their
land together to equal out to 1.9 million acres and kick them out of it then
they can find homes in states they think will listen to them???? Including our
shameful people who have lied to our elders. These childish outburts from people
who dont live here is appalling stop yelling and follow procedure like us poor
natives who have been trampled on. Ty for ur time.
Why do liberals think the federal government should own and control nearly every
facet of our lives?? We have brains and were born free. Cherish your freedom
and your pursuit of happiness. No centralized government will ever have your
best interest in mind. The federal government already owns over 70%
of the land in Utah. This is depressing and disheartening. Lets wake up and
give the power back to the people and local governments and states.
"Rep. Mike Noel, R-Kanab, proposes to shrink the 1.9 million-acre Grand
Staircase-Escalante National Monument to no more than a half-million
acres."This should also be the solution for the Obama's
Ears monument. Don't rescind it. Just reduce it to a tiny fraction of what
it is and it will be a permanent monument to the small-minded president who
I still find it fascinating that people on the Wasatch Front feel empowered to
dictate to people in San Juan County how public lands will be managed. I was
involved in the Mountain Accord process and not once did a citizen of San Juan
County attempt to dictate outcomes to the people up here. Too bad the urban
dwellers up here on the front don't offer the same courtesy to the people
of San Juan County.
What's the point of regressive politics? There is no longer a democracy in
the US.In 100 years from now future generations will look at the area and
wonder why on earth Utah politicians would ever retract a monument. These
republicans are wrong yet again.
I go to Escalante in spite of the Monument, not because of it. I dont see what
the Monument has done except make all the trails more crowded. I hope Escalante
doesn't turn into the next Moab.