GaryO, the Bruce Springsteen cover band canceled their performance.
Wastintime: "Huh? Do you seriously believe that the choir, if asked, would
attend Robert Mugabe's next inauguration?"Yes, I really
believe they would.
Mormons can't get enough of Trump.
"the choir always goes when invited"Huh? Do you seriously
believe that the choir, if asked, would attend Robert Mugabe's next
If you are LDS read the words in this article from your general authorities and
apostles and contrast them to what you have been hearing from "other
voices" of division over the past while. I feel safe in following the
prophet and he is supporting our new president elect Donald J. Trump. Support
doesn't mean 100% agreement but it does mean seeing the bigger picture of
the United States and praying for the newly elected leader to lead this nation
to spiritual and physical prosperity. The shrill polarizing voices of
America's far left continue to seek division and failure in America and all
to preserve what they see as their own power and financial future and to that
end I say just ignore it....it will never change. For reasonable American's
whether they be Christian, Jew, Muslim, athesist, conservative, independent or
liberal who want America to succeed again then let's join hands and embrace
much together toward a pretty darn exciting new direction going forward. Already
we see thosands of jobs returning to America and we are still a week away from
inauguration. That is a welcome breath of fresh clean air!!
I wonder if Evan Mcmullin is going to join his spiritual leaders and chior at
@John Locke"We need to get over the fact that Donald Trump won and
cheer for the fact that we will receive worldwide attention for an inauguration
which will be viewed by literally millions and millions. That is good. "Well... not really. You and I know that the choir always goes when
invited. Does the world know that? If the world doesn't know the
choir's history with the event they'll be more likely to see it as an
endorsement of Trump. And Trump is not liked globally, with rare exception
(Russia and Israel perhaps).
"Mormon apostles, major Utah figures to attend Trump inauguration"Yeah . . . And not only that. But the Mormon Tabernacle Choir will
perform . . . Along with the Rockettes . . . And a Bruce Springsteen cover
band, the B Street Band. Of course, Springsteen himself said no.
Bruce Springsteen is a good guy and a decent American. The E Street Band, the
real deal, REFUSES to play for Trump.Did you get that? . . . The
real band REFUSES to assoiciate with Trump. Instead, a cover band PRETENDING
to be Springsteen and the E Street Band is playing at the inauguration of the
Putin puppet, the ILLEGITIMATE President-elect of the United States.. . . Sounds fitting, doesn't it?Others just said no as well.
Garth Brooks said no . . . As did Elton John, Celine Dion, and Kiss.
You know, it's not too late for the Mormon Tabernacle Choir to back
out.WHY would they even want to be associated with our future
illegitimate President. A significant portion of the country already thinks
Mormonism is an illegitimate religion. Associating with the decidedly
illegitimate President-elect will only add fuel to that fire.
"The Mormon Tabernacle Choir previously performed at the official
swearing-in ceremonies for Lyndon Johnson in 1965, an invitation President McKay
called "the greatest single honor that has come to the Tabernacle
Choir," and Richard Nixon in 1969"."The choir performed
during inaugural parades for George W. Bush (2001), George H. W. Bush (1989) and
Ronald Reagan (1981) and at a devotional service as part of Nixon's second
inauguration (1973)".The Choir does not show up at Presidential
Inaugurations without having been invited. As you can see form the above, the
last invitation they received fro a Democrat President, was Lyndon
Johnson...since that time, as part of a parade, for Republicans. The Choir will
be in full view of the world, OUR purpose for which is missionary work, not
supporting a President or a political party, as the article states. Church
first, State or worldly things second. We need to get over the fact that Donald
Trump won and cheer for the fact that we will receive worldwide attention for an
inauguration which will be viewed by literally millions and millions. That is
good. Cheer for that.
@Aussie Teacher:"Also, do you honestly think that the Saviour would
attend this and show support for this terrible excuse of a human being"Who, exactly, do you think the Savior spent His time with? I agree
Trump is not a good human being, but the Savior's example shows us that is
EXACTLY who we should spend more time with and pray for. And enough
with "showing support"...how many times must we repeat the same thing?
This is NOT support for Trump, it's support for AMERICA, our nation, and
the institution of government whether it be Democrat or Republican. The church
would have sent representatives if HRC had won as well. Do you honestly think
she's an upstanding woman with high moral values? And if so, would the
"Saviour support" her? Yes, He would. But according to you, apparently
He wouldn't spend time with sinners or those who need support so neither
should church leaders.
"The works, and the designs, and the purposes of God cannot be frustrated,
neither can they come to naught. For God doth not walk in crooked paths, neither
doth he turn to the RIGHT hand nor to the LEFT, neither doth he vary from that
which he hath said, therefore his paths are straight, and his course is one
eternal round...Remember, that it is not the work of God that is frustrated, but
the work of men;" D&C 3:1-3THAT is the LDS Church's
Excellent. I hope all who attend have a lovely time. What a great country!
I ma appalled that the church is sending two members of the 12 to validate a
person who has made disgusting remarks about females, attacked Latinos (and
remember that there are more Mormons in Latin American than on the USA. Also the
church is supposed to be world wide, yet the Utah elite seem to discount the
fact that many non-American Mormon are disgusted with Trump(ski) and believe
that there is no way that these two will be representing THEM. Also, do you
honestly think that the Saviour would attend this and show support for this
terrible excuse of a human being. I hope they don't take their female
relatives with them because the whole world knows what Trump(ski)thinks that he
can do with the ladies of the world.
UtahTroutStalker: If you read through the article twice, you missed it twice.
Fourth paragraph from the bottom: "In 2013, President Monson
assigned the late Elder L. Tom Perry and Elder Quentin L. Cook of the Twelve to
go to Obama's second inaugural. In 2009, President Dieter F. Uchtdorf of
the First Presidency and Elder M. Russell Ballard of the Twelve attended
Obama's first inaugural."Right there, guys, in black and
UtahTroutStalker said "I read through the article twice trying to find
where the LDS church sent two apostles or other high ranking officials to
President Obama's inauguration....If the LDS church considers this a
non-partisan event, and not necessarily an endorsement of a particular candidate
or political party then why did they not participate in attending Obama's
inauguration?I think that is rather telling. You see it is one thing to say
something and it is another to live it. "Ahh Trout, you're
just telling on yourself here--trying to get some nubbies all riled up against
the Church--when everybody knows the Church sent President Uchtdorf and Elder
Ballard the first time around for Obama and Elders Perry and Cook the second
time.Just disingenuous to be so snarky and critical of the Church
when it is YOU who don't know your facts. '
As a fellow member of the LDS faith and one who voted for Trump, I am very happy
to hear of the brethren sending out representatives of the faith for the
Representatives of the church are just that - they represent the church not
necessarily support the man who is taking the oath or a political party. As far
as most American Mormons being Republican, it has much more to do with keeping
the federal government away from individual/state rights than social issues,
which are all rather modern. We have a history of being wary of the feds. The
feds were not there when we needed them in NY, OH, MO, and IL but certainly
showed up when they needed us or thought they needed to keep us from becoming a
threat in UT.
@OneWifeOnly"Tell me again how I am sippose to conclude anything other
than this chirch supports the policies espoused by this person?"@UtahTroutStalker"I read through the article twice trying to find
where the LDS church sent two apostles or other high ranking officials to
President Obama's inauguration. I did not see any mention of that.If the LDS church considers this a non-partisan event, and not necessarily an
endorsement of a particular candidate or political party then why did they not
participate in attending Obama's inauguration?I think that is
rather telling. You see it is one thing to say something and it is another to
live it."Consider this from the article:"In a
news release Friday, the church confirmed the apostles' trip to Washington,
D.C., which will continue a 144-year church custom of sending representatives to
inaugurations for presidents of both parties"What is rather
telling is the unwillingness to do any research before throwing out accusations.
Donald Trump is a different kind of a president and the liberals are beside
themselves and sore afraid. Well, all I can say is that sometimes it is needful
for some balance to be brought to the "force" and Donald brings some
badly needed balance. President Obama shifted the balance of the racial and
moral curve in the wrong direction and disdained average and diverse Americans
in favor of the "identity groups". Now it is time for a conservative
supreme court justice and for policies that bring more balance to the first
amendment and religious freedoms. I know a lot of people that voted for Mr.
Trump here in Utah and we are anxiously awaiting for him to stand up to the
liberal agenda and bring fresh new support for everyone's rights and
freedoms. I really think he will do a lot to "make America great again"
as it lost much of that during the last 8 years. Welcome Mr. President - please
come visit Utah soon!
*shrugs* They normally send a couple of them to these things so it's not
like they're doing something new.If they start making
exceptions then it'd just turn into even more of a mess (just with
different people complaining).
LDS LiberalThe church has had representatives at every inaguration
for a long time. Cable news has sure done an effective job at turning liberals
into radicalized war mongering globalists I see.
Good for the Brethren, supporting our new President. That's the way it
should be. Instead of protesting and being obstructionist, we should be praying
that the Almighty will inspire our new President and protect out nation from its
enemies foreign and domestic.
Did we send high ranking LDS Church leaders to Vladimir Putin inauguration?Just asking...
Here is the LDS position on illegal immigration..."The Church supports an
approach where undocumented immigrants are allowed to square themselves with the
law and continue to work without this necessarily leading to citizenship. In furtherance of needed immigration reform in the United States, The
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints supports a balanced and civil
approach to a challenging problem, fully consistent with its tradition of
compassion, its reverence for family, and its commitment to law." Trump
wants to vet immigrants from terrorist countries and build a wall to protect our
borders. Their might be some expelling illegal immigrants. The LDS church has
in no way taken a position against any of Trumps immigration or other official
policies. Any interpretation otherwise is fallacious.
After everything the PEOTUS has said about Utah and Utahans and it's
predominant faith, including the honorable Mitt Romney, it sort of seems like
pandering. But if it is tradition, and they have studied scripture and prayed
about it and this is the answer they got. Vaya con Dios. Maybe since there is
a parade they can rent some white horses for the Apostles to ride in on.
@UtahTroutStalkerIf you did some research you would find that the
LDS church did send representatives to Pres. Obama's inauguration as they
have done with every president's inauguration. The Salt Lake Tribune has
an article back in Jan. 2013 of the LDS church sending people the the
@Trout.The author of the article should have done the research and
included the names of official Church representatives that attended
inaugurations in 2009 and 2013. But, if you do the internet research (like me),
you will find that it was Uchtdorf and Ballard in 2009, and Perry and Cook in
I think it is very appropriate to have two brethren and the choir attend the
inauguration. I didn't see that they went to Obama's--but I am sure it
was not because they would not have gone if asked.For those puzzled by the
majority of Utahns supporting Republicans, you need look no further than the
Democrats' position on abortion and same-sex marriage. Those two issues
alone can disqualify your party from most moral religions and people.
MarxistSo tell us, where are the ovens being built? Do we have any
gas chambers under construction?You see everything as fascism, so
things that are not, will look as though they are in your world view.The problem you have to explain away is how are these moves actually amounting
to anything sinister within our society. Just because a fascist holds office,
doesn't mean he is going to be able to enact policies that will result in a
fascist government. That will actually take military force, and the military is
made up of many different people with strong opinions on government, and
politics. Fascism like Nazi Germany will never happen in the U.S. you'd not
only have a revolt from the left, but millions of center right people would also
revolt against it.Go ahead, and explain.
Joseph Smith said, “The time will come when the destiny of the nation will
hang upon a singlethread. At that critical juncture, this people will step
forth and save it from the threatened destruction.” Maybe
they have seen the writing on the wall and want to get a jump on things?
I read through the article twice trying to find where the LDS church sent two
apostles or other high ranking officials to President Obama's inauguration.
I did not see any mention of that.If the LDS church considers this
a non-partisan event, and not necessarily an endorsement of a particular
candidate or political party then why did they not participate in attending
Obama's inauguration?I think that is rather telling. You see
it is one thing to say something and it is another to live it.
@Creeper51 "Explain your master thesis."There is not enough
room here. But consider some classic Polanyi. This should give you a feel for
his analysis."In England and the United States fascism was
allied with appeasement; in Austria it co-operated with sundry Catholic
pacifists...Huey Long needed no border conflict with Mississippi or Texas to
launch his fascist movement from Baton Rouge. Similar movements in Holland and
Norway were nonnationalist to the point of treason...In its struggle for
political power fascism is entirely free to disregard or to use local issues, at
will. Its aim transcends the political and economic framework: it is social.
It puts a political religion into the service of a degenerative process."Fascist "moves" have happened everywhere from "Lithuania to
Louisiana." Often they do not take hold, but sometimes they do, becoming
outright movements. Fascism is a religion. We can see it and hear it from
Trump supporters. The leader cannot be questioned - ever!
@Open Minded.Perhaps you are right and the LDS Church leadership is
cowering in a corner in fear of the new president. After all, the
Church already publically and officially denounced Candidate Trump's
statements on Muslim immigration, and the Church-owned newspaper declared Trump
unfit to be president. Trump's response? He says he likes
Mormons, and even invites the Tabernacle Choir to his inauguration. Then, he
flirts with naming Mitt Romney Secretary of State. Currently, I can't see
a whole lot of animosity. And, the Church has not retracted its official
criticism of Trump's immigration stance, and the DNews did not retract its
editorial regarding Trump's unfitness to be president.
Our political and other institutions are beginning to crumble but the Restored
Church will not. Mainstream media has turned into Newspeak of the Book 1984. A
dossier so outrageous even the New York Times would not print is being published
as fact by CNN and MSBC. Many people and forces despise President Elect Trump.
He is a better person than his opponent, the current president and 90 percent of
the people in mainstream media.
@Marxist.I appreciate your viewpoint.But, I think your concern
is why down-ballot voting is so important. Schumer, Leahy, Durbin,
Pelosi, Sanders and many other Democrats are going to keep a very close eye on
Trump and his team for any hint of improper behavior. But, beyond them, Paul
Ryan, Marco Rubio, John McCain, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee and many other Republicans in
Congress are not going to simply be rubber stamps for Mr. Trump.The
Constitution, and people in Congress and on the Supreme Court that are willing
to defend it, are what makes America very different from 1930s Germany. So,
while you may be right about Mr. Trump's fascist tendencies, take heart.
The neat thing is that the Founders clearly recognized that there
might come a time when the person elected president was not as virtuous as
George Washington. And, they placed mechanisms in the Constitution to deal with
just such a situation.
The right is _________ (insert negative adjective)The left is _________
(insert negative adjective)How does that make you feel? Not so good,
right? Why do so many try to divide us into two political orientations. They
create what's known as a false dichotomy--this or that. This sort of
language and thinking weakens our communities by pitting neighbor against
neighbor, and causes nothing but tension for everyone. I for one am sick of it.
Many of us are moderate with mixed political views, depending on the
issue. Many of us voted for candidates because of who they are, not because of
the party they affiliate with. Country above party. Anyone with two
wits about them realizes Donald Trump is dangerous. That's not to say the
other major candidate was not dangerous, but she lost, so Trump is all that
matters now. Glad the church will have representation at the
inauguration. I suspect they understand that we need to support the processes
that enable our democratic republic to operate, even if those in office may be
less than qualified to be there.
Based on what we are all witnessing now with the next President -- So long as the LDS Church plays nice with Donald Trump, and never says
anything negative about him, or never get under his paper thin egotistical
skin for whatever reason, we have no need to fear being threatened or
attacked by him or his thugs.We live in a "Free" country you
don't you know - or at least that's what we've been told....
EsquireI'll admit I typed out non-partisan when I meant
partisan. Are you happy?
MarxistYou are so invested in finding fascism, that you literally
see it everywhere. Besides that do you know how many more fascist moves have to
he made before the ovens get turned on in this country?Germany
didn't just decide, when Hitler came to power to be fascists. It was a
twenty year build up to that point, and then the war came.How is
Trump going to instill these fascist values you think he has, into one of the
largest, and most diverse nations in the world? Especially when our system of
government is built to stop that advancement, through obstruction?Explain your master thesis.
EsquireYou have literally no evidence of any wrong doing, or
illegality by Trump to win the election. Your credibility has long been shot,
and the fact that you continue to fall for the fake news that constitutes our
MSM is very telling of how partisan you are. Can I get a #Goldenshowergate? CNN
out to lose all its licenses, and fade away into the night.Clearly
you know my history, I've advocated that everybody get behind Trump since
he was elected. I've advocated for skepticism, and logic, not hyperbole, or
outrage.I wish somebody else would have grab America's
attention from the Repubs, but the MSM wouldn't ignore Trump, due to the
fact he makes them money through ad revenue. If they would have done their jobs
correctly the Republicans would have had support for other candidates to choose.
However they couldn't leave him alone, and America saw something different
in him than all the other candidates.Your social capital has been
spent, and now society is calling in the liberal parties debt. Pay up, get in
line with the country, come back down to earth, and try again next election
@Vermonter "So, I don't think there would ever be a person elected
president that would be so evil that I could not attend their inauguration where
they voluntarily promise (however imperfect they are) to preserve, protect and
defend the Constitution of the United States of America."I look
at this with different eyes because of my background. I daresay I am a student
of fascism. I know what to look for. Most do not understand fascism and what
the anthropologist Polanyi called "fascist moves." I firmly
believe, based on his behavior, that Donald Trump at the very least represents a
fascist move in the United States. That's why I blanch at his receiving
any legitimacy. I fear (I desperately hope I'm wrong) we are seeing the
end of constitutional government and the rise of a Pinochet style dictatorship.
@carmanSo, Hillary got 28%, the same as Misty Snow.Evan got 22-ish.
If you take him out of the equation you get the typical red state pattern for
As I have said several times, Support and respect the office. Presidents and
elected officials come and go. America has survived since the constitution was
written. At every election there are always angry people whose candidate did not
win.I just find it unfortunate people who are attending the inauguration are
being vilified for honoring our countries highest office.
As an old liberal and an LDS I support this action by the Church. Perfectly
appropriate for the well-being of our nation for the apostles to be present at
the swearing in. Let Mr. Trump swear to the Almighty in the presence
of the Lord's prophets that he will preserve, protect, and defend the
Constitution . I expect him to break that oath ten times a day.
(King Saul did it once, and we know what happened to him.) So it will be all to
the good to have special witnesses of that oath.
To Iron Rod:re: "Personally I am disappointed that the majority
of people in this State voted for him..."Uh, the majority of
people in Utah did NOT vote for Trump. Only 45% did. He is the first
republican president in at least a very long time who did not get a majority of
the votes in the state of Utah.
The church leadership, it's organizations and members should get used to
not wining. If they go they are turning their back on their morals and values
and supporting a vial person. If they don't go they are intolerant, self
righteous, religious zealots that won't be seen with sinners. You
can't please everybody but our society and culture is getting to a point
where you please anybody.
There are so many pompous and self-serving statements in the comments. We should
support the president. We had two choices. One was bad the other worst. We did
the best we could. We chose bad. He will be so much better than the other would
have been. But no matter who is in the presidency what really matters is how we
treat each othe, how we treat our families, and how we choose to live our lives.
It will little matter in the end which President we elect. But I have to say I
am delighted. It could have been worse.
Jesus was often criticized for associating with "sinners". Jesus did so,
so he could reach out to them, teach and influence them, encourage/invite them
to change (repent). I remember as a young political science student I was angry
when President Richard Nixon began diplomatic and trade relations with communist
China in 1974 until I heard President of the Church Spencer W. Kimball state
his hopes that the church would be able to begin sharing the Gospel of Jesus
Christ with the people of China. I have noticed that LDS church leaders visit
each President of the United States and have very private conversations with
them. I suspect that church leaders encourage each president to do want is
moral, good and right for the citizens of our nation. You wait and see. The
church leaders will eventually visit "President" Trump and encourage him
to do what is good and right. The church leaders won't get that
opportunity, however, if they make an enemy out of Trump.
Get over it already. The Church is doing what it has always done for all US
Presidents. They are doing what Christ would do if He were there. They are not
making any kind of political statement, but only a statement of support for the
Constitution and the peaceful transition of power. We should all do the same.
At least I'm not afraid to publish this comment under my true name. Those
who are critical, please stop making untrue comments unless you are willing to
post your true identity.
All you libs are getting your underwear in a great big knot. Get over
yourselves. The Church has been sending representatives to
inaugurations for years. So what? They can send the whole First Presidency
and Quorum of the Twelve if they want. So what?What does it prove?
It proves nothing. All you people need to carefully read Luke 5, paying
particular attention to Verses 30-32.I could be offended that some
of them went to Obama's inauguration, but I choose not to really care
because I know it wasn't an endorsement of his socialist policies.
It's just mind boggling to read the reaction by people who supposedly are
good, active church members that are criticizing the Church, the Brethren, the
Tabernacle Choir, and everyone else who is attending the event. These same
critics are always the first to tell the Church how and where to spend their
money, what the brethren "ought to be doing", and what the doctrine
should be instead of what it is, what they are directed and inspired to do, and
for what causes or programs they fund. Truly we are living in the "last
days" and when the house-cleaning occurs at the Second Coming, it will be
interesting indeed. "Great and dreadful" will be apt descriptions. I
hope it comes sooner rather than later.
I may have missed it, but it appears that President Obama's proper title
was not used in his first reference in this article. I'm sure it was an
oversight either on my part or the part of the DN staff.
OK, you can go...but I'd better not see you enjoying yourselves.And that goes for the Choir, too.
Under normal circumstances, this news item would get nominal attention. What
makes it odd this time around is Trump himself who late in the campaign was
urged to drop out of the race by the Church-owned Deseret News in an editorial
that broke with a long tradition of non-involvement in a Presidential race.No previous President in history has entered office amid such a swirl of
controversy about him personally. The press and the country at large are
apprehensive and don’t know how else to adapt other than to try to
normalize a most abnormal situation.
We have elected a president with a shadowy relationship with the truth.
He's cratered the intelligence community, the very people who risk their
lives to protect us. Sure Mormon church leaders, charter a plane and
line up to honor this man and all the potential conflicts he represents. When
you do, you'll be taking "faith" to an unpalatable, extreme level.
Somehow I missed the news that Mormon conservatives were concerned that
President Uchtdorf, and Elders Perry, Ballard and Cook attending Obama's
Inaugurations meant that they all were Obama supporters.@Marxist.At what point is another human being so depraved that we must avoid any
contact with that person, even simple courtesy, at a public event? As a Mormon
myself, I believe that the Church teaches that we all have an opportunity (and
need) for repentance and that all children of God are worthy of simple courtesy
and respect as a human being.So, I don't think there would ever
be a person elected president that would be so evil that I could not attend
their inauguration where they voluntarily promise (however imperfect they are)
to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of
As the Church states;"Its primary purpose is for the
president-elect to take the constitutionally required oath of office, and for
the people by witnessing it to bind him to that oath."Nowhere
did I read that the Church is celebrating Donald Trump's election. The
Church response is well put. And so our duty now becomes to bind Trump to the
oath of office. Not sit on forums bashing Hillary Clinton and justifying
Trump's actions with, "Well at least ...." statements. The constitution demands freedom of the press. Freedom of religion. Equality.
Justice without discrimination. So let's do what the Church is doing and
working to bind the next President to the oath of office he will take. Small
'c' conservatives (true conservatives) everywhere will demand nothing
The Church is right to send representatives, the Church needs to maintain a
presence in order to remain in future discussions with whatever administration
is in office. This has nothing to do with supporting Trump as a person but
everything to do with supporting the President of our country. @antodav - declaring that all things are partisan merely shows a lack of
commitment to non-partisan cooperation.I did not vote for Trump, I
could not vote for him based on my morals. But I now need to support him, I
need him to succeed over at least the next 4 years. Regardless his values we
all need him to succeed.
Bravo to these two church leaders for rising above the rancor of partisan
politics and doing the right thing. Donald Trump is a good man and, with all of
us on both sides of the isle pitching in to do our part, he will make America
The Apostles attended Obama's, and they would have attended Clinton's,
had she won. Apostles attending these events is just part for the course. How
quickly so many have forgotten we had two incredibly flawed candidates. One of
the two won. Just celebrate the peaceful transition of power. That is all the
Apostles and the MTC are doing.
I wonder if there would ever be a reason church officials wouldn't attend a
presidential inauguaration? Maybe if the president-elect had campaigned against
religious freedom? Would there be other reasons? I think I would
just call in sick......
Another reason for questioning the delegation is Trump's calling for the
registration of all members of a religion. Such is unconstitutional!
Why do people have to throw around labels such as 'liberals' and such?
We are all Americans. I do not affiliate myself with either party and can see
how despicable this President Elect is. The released dossier has been in
circulation since last year but our President Obama had enough integrity not to
say anything, something that this President Elect lacks. I too am disappointed
in the LDS community.
@ Creeper51, what in the world are you talking about? "Only the liberals
have decided this event is non-partisan." So this is supposed to be a
partisan event and the country should not unify? I think you missed the point
made by "antodav." And if you aren't happy with the whole
Russian-Putin issue, I think you have only Trump to blame. Everything that is
being discussed goes to his comments, his actions, his reactions, etc. I think
it is highly appropriate to look into it. Many Republicans who actually love
America over any one individual agree with me on this. Did you buy into
Trump's rhetoric that only he could save America? Have you bothered to
think about that and its implications? Instead of whining about negative things
said about Trump (and remember the abuse Obama took, with which I'm sure
you approved), focus on facts.
Kudos to the Apostles for showing a positive and patriotic attitude toward this
important ceremony in our nation's history. Another action that speaks
well for the Church. A lot of people may not like President Trump - a lot of
people don't like President Obama either (including me) but I would accord
him and his office due respect in a effort to be a good citizen and elevate the
negativity into positive territory. All you cynics and holy-than-thou folks are
going to get an ulcer if your not careful.
There is a difference between attending the inauguration and performing in the
inauguration. A religious or political official can and should attend the
inauguration as a matter of state or civic duty. Performing in the
inaugeration, however, is a personal act that celebrates the transfer of power
on a different level. I appreciate those who have decline the invite to perform,
including one brave Mormon tab choir member, as a reaffirmation that decency,
virtue, and civility matter - whether you are the president or a common citizen.
The only reason attendance at the inaugural raises questions is Trump's
behavior. Do I need to describe this? I guess so, as the Republican
establishment of this state seems oblivious. First and foremost is Trump's
practice of the BIG LIE. His birther lie was brutally unfair to Obama and those
who voted for him, and was (and is!) fascist like. Trump's calling for
physical violence against protesters - fascist like. His belittling of women -
fascist like. His general vituperation - fascist like. His inability to deal
with ANY criticism - fascist like. And don't forget his refusal to take
questions from new organizations who do not support him - fascist like and
how!Another reason for questioning the Utah delegation is the
ongoing silence of this newspaper editorially on these problems. The Deseret
News has gone editorially mute on these questions when other newspapers are
actively considering them. Why?
So why is this newsworthy again? They have done it every year. Its not even
the President going (which it has been some years). So what's the
"story" exactly? Its kind of like a news article titled, "In a
shocking turn of events, there was traffic during rush hour!" Moving on.
Tell me again how I am sippose to conclude anything other than this chirch
supports the policies espoused by this person? Actions really are
AntodavOnly the liberals have decided this event is non-partisan.
The lying of the MSM, the effort to undermine the lawful election of Trump, and
all the race baiting that has gone on, has only come from the left.So if you mean non-partisan as the liberals throwing their fit, then I agree.
If not well you've detached yourself from reality.
Personally I am disappointed that the majority of people in this State voted for
him, The Tabernacle Choir will be traveling to Washington to perform and two
apostles from our church will be attending his inauguration. I wonder if they
did not go they would be on the enemies list? Now Trump would not have an
enemies list would he??
As the Episcopal National Cathedral will be the host of the religious side of
inauguration events, as it has for the past 20 plus inaugurations, I think its
good for all religions to gather together and pray for our new President (like
him or not) and our country and the world.
Elder D. Todd Christofferson and Elder Gary E. Stevenson==== Sad.Oh well, at least none of the 1st Presidency is
attending...BTW -- I did like the line about "witnessing",
and sending at least 2 witnesses that Trump will indeed protect and defend the
"CONSTITUTION, So help me God!"Accountability to that is
what I will be watching - daily.
LDS leaders consider the event itself non-partisan."They would seem to be alone in that opinion. Unfortunately there is nothing
that's "non-partisan" anymore in our society.