Richard Davis: How will Barack Obama be remembered?

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  • forward thinker Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 14, 2017 3:03 p.m.

    I didn't really want to think about what he will be remembered for. I want to forget.

    But in reality the 5% of the people who now get their healthcare with welfare insurance instead of just plain welfare medicaid won't be at all memorable. The foreign policy failures that have brought us ISIS will not be pinned to him. The media, who writes our history, will see to that.

    What will he be remembered? It is so simple and so expected.

    He was the first black president.

    And that is about all.

  • Harrison Bergeron Holladay , UT
    Jan. 13, 2017 8:18 p.m.

    Richard Davis: "Relations with allies are better than in 2008."


    When asked to assess Obama's presidency Jimmy Carter said: "On the world stage, I think they’ve been minimal. I think he’s done some good things domestically, like the health program and so forth. But on the world stage, just to be as objective about it as I can, I can’t think of many nations in the world where we have a better relationship now than we did when he took over."

    And trust me, Jimmy Carter knows all about losing respect around the world.

  • Vermonter Plymouth, MI
    Jan. 13, 2017 11:23 a.m.

    @Cora Smith.
    I'm not a Trump supporter or an Obama supporter or a Clinton supporter. And, if I had lived in Utah, I would have voted for McMullin--not because he was qualified, but to send a message to the DNC and RNC.

    Having said that, your accusations of Trump are pretty accurate. But, many of the same accusations could easily apply to Obama and Clinton. For example, your first accusation--lying. This is a grey area at best for Obama, and pretty black and white for Hillary Clinton.

    As to creating businesses that defraud, well, Obama and Hillary Clinton never created any businesses that I know of. So, its kind of hard to compare Trump and Obama/Clinton on that point.

    As for holding elected office, well, in case you missed it, at least half of America does not think that is a qualification any more.

    And as to abusing women, Hillary was at least unsympathetic to her husband's accusers. And, she is still choosing to be married to a guy that has been accused of it--multiple times.

    The world is not as black and white as we like to think it is.

  • HSTucker Holladay, UT
    Jan. 13, 2017 9:19 a.m.

    If Obama is not remembered as Saul Alinsky's most effective acolyte, it will be because of a complicit media's failure to vet them both. Hopefully the Deseret News is above that kind of collusion and will out the truth.

    God Bless America. God Bless President-elect Donald Trump.

  • jsf Centerville, UT
    Jan. 12, 2017 5:48 p.m.

    In his farewell address, which he has given a few, he spent 49 minutes reselling himself. Schooling us on why we don't know how good he was as a president. Seventy five times he talked about himself. That means he referred to himself once very two minutes.

    A truly good president would not have to resell himself at the end of his term.

    But as a true narcissistic he has an exaggerated feel of self-importance, an excessive need for admiration, and a lack of understanding of others' feelings. He has spent a lot of time thinking about achieving power or success, and about his appearance.

  • Cora Smith BOUNTIFUL, UT
    Jan. 12, 2017 5:03 p.m.

    I must say, I'm really concerned with Republican supporters or Trump voters who talk bad about President Obama.
    If Trump is/was a good Christian that had never lied, never committed adultery, never cheated his employees, never created businesses that defrauded our citizens, never bragged about abusing women in the most degrading ways, had held elected office before with success and was looked up to for his integrity, that would be one thing.
    But he is not that person.
    Obama is being falsely accused of ruining our economy and hurting our populace. Very false.
    Why is it that normally decent Christian people have no trouble telling false stories and making up things about Obama while supporting someone like Trump?
    It's easy enough to look up the facts, but that would destroy the falsehoods of the mind. Very sad for people who are afraid of not only believing in decency, but living all aspects of morals and decency which include; Do not tell falsehoods. If you want to support a person who does not have your morals and sense of decency...why do you?

  • silo Sandy, UT
    Jan. 12, 2017 4:42 p.m.

    @2 bits
    "Forbes is more impartial than some politico posting their opinion in the DesNews."

    If Redshirt's reference was actually a Forbes article, investigated researched by a Forbes writer, you might have an argument. Except Redshirt didn't reference a Forbes-authored article. Redshirt referenced an op-ed in Forbes, authored by Peter Ferrara, who is the Director of Entitlement Policy at the Heartland Institute.

    Are you claiming that the Heartland Institute is impartial and non-partisan? Are you claiming that Heartland Institute's opinions and standards reflect Forbes opinions and standards...because right there at the top of the op-ed Redshirt referenced, Forbes states "The opinions expressed are those of the writer."

    Redshirt made an opinion as fact claim, supported that claim not with raw data, a peer reviewed study, nor any objective analysis, instead citing an opinion letter from a staunch Conservative think tank.

  • LOU Montana Pueblo, CO
    Jan. 12, 2017 4:24 p.m.

    President Obama will be remembered as a better man.

    Sadly, Trump will never achieve the level of respect President Obama has achieved.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 12, 2017 2:23 p.m.

    Who would you trust on economic analysis... Forbes or silo?
    Who is more impartial... Forbes or silo?
    Who is more partisan... Forbes or silo?

    I know he may claim to do more research than Forbes... but really... is silo more impartial than Forbes?

    Google "Forbes | AllSides"... (a media bias ranking group).
    "Forbes bias rating is Center"... (meaning neither Left or Right)

    I doubt silo's bias ranking would be "Center".

    As for his claim... "I'm more likely to gather cross-section of business and economic data, more likely to assess that data objectively"... I think that's malarkey.

    Forbes is more impartial than some politico posting their opinion in the DesNews.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 12, 2017 1:48 p.m.

    "While many European nations struggled with austerity measures, the U.S. stimulated its economy. The result was dramatic. The U.S. economy bounced back much faster than those of other nations."

    A lot of those European nations had double-dip or even triple-dip recessions pursuing the Republican policy of austerity.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    Jan. 12, 2017 12:53 p.m.

    To "silo" as I pointed out at 9:35 today, the more data you look at, the worse Obama look when it comes to the Recession and the economy.

    The only indicators that make Obama look good are the Stock Market and unemployment numbers. Things that actually matter to US Citizens all show that Obama has been terrible.

    Is it a good thing that the average US wage is down $5000? Is it good that fewer people are working than at any other time in the past 50 years? Is it good that the U6 unemployment rate is still close to 10%? Is it good that employers are limiting part time employees hours? Is it good that the teen unemployment rate is so high? Is it a good sign that interest rates can't be raised, which means you earn virtually nothing when you save money at a bank?

    We know you love Obama, but you have to accept the fact that like a wayward child, Obama has messed up a lot.

  • Husker1 Northern Utah County, UT
    Jan. 12, 2017 12:24 p.m.

    Liberals will forever say he was a great President, one of the best ever.Conservatives will forever say he was a bad President. Predictable.

    I'm conservative so I feel he was a major disappointment. He could have done so much more and he receives credit from liberals for things he didn't really do. For example, Obama gets too much credit for ending the recession of 2007-2009. However, the US government says it ended in June 2009, just 5 months after Obama took office. In reality, the recession was already in a steep decline because of actions taken by George W. Bush. Obama rode out the last few months and gladly took credit for ending the recession.

  • silo Sandy, UT
    Jan. 12, 2017 11:58 a.m.

    "are you saying you know more about business and economics than people who study it and report on it"

    No, I'm saying I'm more likely to gather cross-section of business and economic data, more likely to assess that data objectively, regardless of president or party and more likely to form objective opinions than a partisan op-ed, in a partisan news site, written by a partisan author working for a partisan organization.

    In addition, when I can spot obvious contradictions in that authors published article, his credibility comes into question. In one paragraph, he claims that unemployment was over 8% during Obama's first term, and simultaneously claims that unemployment was never over 8% since 1948. The authors claims only influence those who will never bother to test his claims...including you.

  • HaHaHaHa Othello, WA
    Jan. 12, 2017 11:22 a.m.

    Slow learners! My guess is it will take the slobbering left, which includes Davis, at least another 18 months to learn that wishful thinking doesn't actually translate into truth or facts. This is how long they have been wrong about Trump. They have been wrong about bho 5 times that long, so maybe it will be much longer then 18 months. (wishful thinking on my part)

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    Jan. 12, 2017 9:35 a.m.

    To "silo" are you saying you know more about business and economics than people who study it and report on it.

    If you bothered to look at the numbers, Obama did a terrible job with the economy and the recession. As has already been pointed out, GDP growth is not what it was even under Bush. The Labor Participation rate is at a 50 year low. It took Obama 7 years to get the U6 unemployment rate below Bush's high. Deficits are higher than at any other time. More small businesses are closing than are starting up. The average US wage has DROPPED by over $5,000 per year. The number of people receiving food stamps has nearly DOUBLED since 2008. The number of people retiring rather than looking for jobs has increased.

    If the recession is over and things are so good, why are Preppers no longer a fringe group but becoming more mainstream?

    The thing is when you start looking at the primary economic indicators, not just 1 or 2, you see that Obama has done a poor job with the recession.

  • JoeCapitalist2 Orem, UT
    Jan. 12, 2017 8:32 a.m.

    "A main goal of Obamacare was achieved: the percentage of Americans without health insurance has dropped precipitously."

    I would argue that fewer people today have health insurance than before he took office. Sure, lots of people may have a piece of paper that says 'you have health insurance', but if your premiums and deductibles are so high that every dollar spent comes out of your own pocket, is that really insurance? How many people skip going to the doctor because they can't afford the sky-high deductibles?

    Like most things Obama has done, it might look good on the outside; but once you look a little deeper you realize that much of it is just a facade.

  • scrappy do DRAPER, UT
    Jan. 12, 2017 7:25 a.m.

    as the weakest president since Jimmy Carter

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    Jan. 12, 2017 7:10 a.m.

    Mr. Obama will be remembered as the golfing president who failed at everything that he promised to do. ObamaCare is over. BLM mocks everything that he told us about racism. He gave away a huge chunk of Utah. For those who tell us that Utah is 66% "public lands", let them show Constitutional authority for the Federal Government to "own" 66% of Utah. He knew nothing about running a business, yet he pretended to be America's CEO. He mocked every person in America who believes in Christ. He tried to open our children's restrooms to people of the opposite sex. He sold guns to drug dealers in Mexico. What a legacy.

    Obama will be remembered - but not for any reason worth remembering.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Jan. 11, 2017 10:40 p.m.

    who cares? The 8 year nightmare is over now!!!

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Jan. 11, 2017 10:12 p.m.

    I could write a book about the last 'ugly' 8 years but let me just remind left wing Richard Davis of a couple of facts and this should create some historical perspective.

    1. Democrats lost the last two congressional mid terms all due to Obama's policies.
    2. Democrats lost state governor races (I believe 36) all due to Obama's policies
    3. Democrats lost the presidency to Donald Trump all due to Obama's policies.
    4. 70% of Americas polled over the past 8 years believe America is on the WRONG track
    5. Overall the Democrats have lost over 1000 seats nationally all due to Obama's policies

    If history looked kindly on Mr. Obama Hillary Clinton would have easily won the 2016 election. As bad a candidate as Hillary was she had nothing to run with thanks to Mr. Obama.

    Before the 2016 election season started Mr. Obama's approvals were in the mid 30 percent range and only rose after people lost focus on him for 14 months during the election. The focus was on Hillary.

    People rejected Barack Obama Richard -- that is why Trump is our new president elect!! Obama was the worst president in the last century -- easily!!

  • silo Sandy, UT
    Jan. 11, 2017 5:07 p.m.

    "The recession ended in 2009 despite any of Obama."

    Are you really citing an op-ed in Forbes, authored by the Heartland Institute as support for your claim? How about providing something a bit more credible and unbiased?

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 11, 2017 4:45 p.m.

    Happy Valley Heretic 11:39 a.m.

    I didn't say I'm the victim of racism.... don't speak for me.

    I just pointed out that it still exists. And that the racial-divide may be wider today than it was when he took office.

    And I'm disappointed he didn't give a big speech specifically on race, like Romney's speech on religion.

    I really thought Obama was uniquely qualified to make big improvements in this area. I just don't think he delivered. You may disagree and think he totally did away with the racial divide. I don't see it that way when I watch the news.

  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    Jan. 11, 2017 4:29 p.m.

    I will remember Pres. Obama fondly, as an inspiring figure, a model of decency and dignity, a truly exemplary father.

    I will remember him for trying to help the helpless, for seeking peace through diplomacy, for championing those who couldn't get health care.

    I will remember him for his extraordinary record of reverence and preservation of our treasured lands.

    I will remember him for guiding us steadily out of the terrible mess of torture, useless wars, and economic meltdown of the Bush years.

    I will also remember those who threw a wrench into every single thing he tried to do, and the people of ill will who could not STAND to see a black man in the White House. I know who they are. I have listened to their rants for years. Don't tell me they don't exist because I know different.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    Jan. 11, 2017 4:02 p.m.

    Obama was not a perfect President but America was in good hands with him at the helm. There were no major scandals during his two terms and the ones Republican opponents tried to drum up were overwrought and revoltingly partisan in nature.

    He’s a level-headed leader with a sense of history and America’s place in the world. Always looking towards the future and unafraid to take stands that he knew might cost him support like the tough stands he took on gun violence. That took guts and integrity. He fell short on much of what he tried to accomplish but he ran the race and fought the good fight. He never shamed us in the eyes of the world. He inspired and gave hope to millions.

    Thank you, Mr. President. Hope to be seeing and hearing more from you in the future.

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    Jan. 11, 2017 3:49 p.m.

    @ Marxist: The federal government meddling in the housing market during the Clinton administration caused the last recession. Socialism, like everywhere it has been tried, has failed and it always will because sooner or later they always run out of other people's money! Karl Marx got it wrong! I work, you eat, get free healtcare, free housing! When the government robs Peter to pay Paul, eventually Peter will just stop working! Sort of like socialist Hugo Chavez learned in Venezuela, once the most prosperous capitalist country in S. America!

  • very_angry_man ,
    Jan. 11, 2017 3:37 p.m.

    Obama will be remembered for running up the national debt from about 10 trillion to 19 trillion, while allowing the Federal Reserve to print about another 2.5 trillion. That means about 11.5 trillion dollars was printed during the Obama presidency. With about 320 million people in the U.S., that means $35,937 (~36k) per person was printed. So if you have a family of four he printed 144k just for you.

    Despite all this money printing and his loyal followers believing (still) he really wanted to lower the cost of healthcare, the cost of healthcare skyrocketed and taxes went up.

    So how much of your 36k did you actually get?

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    Jan. 11, 2017 3:13 p.m.

    I don't think Richard Davis has a grasp of reality. Lets do the easy disproof of his statements:

    Racial relations are worse than ever. His efforts have only made things worse. See "Race Relations Are at Lowest Point in Obama Presidency, Poll Finds" in the NY Times

    The recession ended in 2009 despite any of Obama. See "Economically, Could Obama Be America's Worst President?" in Forbes

    As for Obamacare, yes some people now have insurance, but it would have been cheaper to just buy them insurance than to implement Obamacare. The CBO estimates that it costs $134 billion/year for Obamacare, which means that assuming the 20 million that are now insured average out to families of 4 people, we could have saved 60 billion or more just by buying insurance for those people. You can also go into how Obamacare has made the population less healthy.

    As for the Common Core that Obama has helped to push, I think Richard missed the article in US News where they found that "Student Scores in Reading and Math Drop". Wasn't CC supposed to make things better?

  • silo Sandy, UT
    Jan. 11, 2017 1:56 p.m.


    "Did you support Ben Carson?"

    Marxist's question to you is not a matter of whether you supported Barack Obama or not. Its the simple fact that you either don't believe he's accomplished a single positive thing in 8 years, or you simply can't bring yourself to admit it.

    When you won't even acknowledge the real, tangible, irrefutable things Obama has done, or when you falsely accuse Obama of doing things he didn't actually do, then the explanation has to lie elsewhere, because it's not fact- nor logic-based.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 11, 2017 1:55 p.m.

    @Vermonter " He [Obama] got us out of the Great Recesssion. But, it was done, for the most part, by continuing emergency policies established by Hank Paulson and Obama's predecessor. "

    No so, and I was watching developments intently 2008-2009.

  • Traveller Farmington, UT
    Jan. 11, 2017 1:47 p.m.

    @Prometheus Platypus

    "Not Utah Land, but Public land inside of the State"

    Isn't "Public land inside of the state of Utah" the same thing as saying "Utah land"?

    "Unilateral" means "without the agreement of the other involved parties." No one in Utah's state government agreed to the monument, including Rep. Bishop. No one in Congress agreed to the designation either, for that matter. Therefore it was in fact a unilateral action on the president's part.

    Yes, he may authentically have the authority to perform a designation unilaterally, but it shows a characteristic disregard of his political opponent's concerns to do so. Simply put, Pres. Obama designated the monument to score political points with environmentalists - his political supporters - and humiliate his political opponents.

  • Open Minded Mormon Everett, 00
    Jan. 11, 2017 1:24 p.m.

    Richard Davis: How will Barack Obama be remembered?


    Barack Obama will be remembered as the LAST President of the United States.

    The era of America's Kingsman and Gadianton's has finally arrived...

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    Jan. 11, 2017 12:38 p.m.

    @ Marxist: Did you support Ben Carson? Nope! Does that make you a racist? Becareful what you accusations you throw around!

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    Jan. 11, 2017 12:16 p.m.


    I will remember him as someone who did an incredible job faced with the most obstructionist Republican congress ever.

    @2 bits;

    When I thought about what I would remember him for, the color of his skin didn't even occur to me.

    @Thid Barker;

    You don't get your own facts; ISIS is a direct result of the actions of a Republican President. Nothing will ever change that fact.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 11, 2017 12:05 p.m.

    @Thid "Liberals have selective memory syndrome! They won't remember all the red ink Obama left behind, more than all other previous presidents combined!"

    I am not a liberal, but I am well aware of the red ink. Obama successfully dealt with the second greatest breakdown of American capitalism, which accounted for the red ink.

    Why do Obama bashers like you Thid not want to grant Obama any legitimacy.? I think it because he's black, in other words white rage.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Jan. 11, 2017 11:39 a.m.

    2 bits said: "Obviously he will be remembered as the first black President. Don't know why color of President's skin matters, but it does to some people."

    The irony, as you go on to blame Obama for all the racism that has happened during his presidency, of course you only mention black on white racism in your comment which is what I find most conservatives believe...that they are the victim of racism.

  • Vermonter Plymouth, MI
    Jan. 11, 2017 11:38 a.m.

    Economic Historians are a pretty thin slice of the American public.

    However, honest economic historians would say that Obama's legacy is mixed at best. He got us out of the Great Recesssion. But, it was done, for the most part, by continuing emergency policies established by Hank Paulson and Obama's predecessor.

    The official, reported unemployment rate is now below 5%. But, labor participation is at its lowest rate in the past 50 years. And, teen unemployment in general, but especially for minorities, is a travesty.

    GDP growth has been positive for most of Obama's terms. But, GDP growth has been the weakest of any recovery in the past 50+ years.

    The trillion-dollar, shovel-ready stimulus largely went to state and local government workers who successfully avoided any of the pain experienced in the private sector during the Great Recession.

    And, we now have a $20T national debt as opposed to the $9T racked up by Bush 43 due largely to wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Candidate Obama told us that $9T was "unpatriotic." Not sure what Candidate Obama would call $20T.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Jan. 11, 2017 11:26 a.m.

    President Obama was the epitome of grace and accomplishment against obstruction and obfuscation.
    Add to that style, family values and class.
    We'll miss him soon.

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    Jan. 11, 2017 11:05 a.m.

    Liberals have selective memory syndrome! They won't remember all the red ink Obama left behind, more than all other previous presidents combined!
    They won't remember the Syrian mess he helped perpetrate nor will they remember ISIS (the JV league) he allowed to invade Iraq and Afghanistan when he pulled troops out to soon; huge blunders all! They won't remember the economic decline of the middle class in America under his watch which cost Hillary the election! They won't remember the class, race, economic and gender wars he fanned the flames of during his administration! What will they remember? That he was a good husband and father and most importantly, that he wasn't a dreaded Republican!

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 11, 2017 10:47 a.m.

    Obviously he will be remembered as the first black President. Don't know why color of President's skin matters, but it does to some people.

    He will also be remembered as one of our better Presidents. Not the "best ever" (as some of my friends insist).

    RE: "Barack Obama will be remembered as the president who helped the country take a major stride towards ending racism"...
    Seriously Richard... What has he done to end racism?

    Name one act or one thing he has said to end racism.

    I think the racial divide is worse today.

    Have you seen the race riots?

    Ferguson, Baltimore, Portland, Oakland, Batton Ruge, Milwaukee, Charlotte, Chicago, Texas, California, even people injured at BLM protests in Utah?

    How many cops have been killed by radicalized racist this year alone?

    Read "Obama Legacy Marred By Growing Number Of Race Riots"
    or "Whites Hunted on Streets of Milwaukee"
    or "Race Relations at Lowest Point in Obama Presidency, Poll Finds"...

    Seems race divide is getting worse, not better.

    8 years in office, never gave a speech on race?

    Good President, but did nothing on race IMO.

  • Kent C. DeForrest Provo, UT
    Jan. 11, 2017 10:20 a.m.

    Regarding Obamacare, it is failing for one reason and one reason only: Republicans determined to oppose the ACA from the start, even though it is pretty much patterned after conservative ideas, because they had promised to obstruct Obama in everything he did. This included refusing to expand Medicaid coverage in conservative states like Utah. In states like California that supported the ACA, it has been very successful. Republicans refused many opportunities to amend and improve the ACA, preferring instead to attempt to repeal the law dozens of times, most of these efforts being simply empty message statements.

    Well, now the shoe is on the other foot. The Republicans can gut the ACA with a slim majority vote. But they have to come up with a replacement plan that is so superior to Obamacare that it will attract the required 60 votes in the Senate. Good luck. In seven years, the GOP has failed to come up with anything even resembling a coherent plan. But they have to concoct a plan that provides the benefits that Obamacare does and somehow meets their own silly ideological constraints. The chance of that happening? Less than zero.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 11, 2017 10:16 a.m.

    @Vermonter "For the most part, Barack Obama will not be long-remembered for what he actually did..."

    For economic historians this is definitely not true.

  • LOU Montana Pueblo, CO
    Jan. 11, 2017 10:14 a.m.

    President Obama will be remembered as the President who saved America, after the Republicans worked so hard to destroy it!

    Thank you Mr PRESIDENT for a job well done.

  • Traveller Farmington, UT
    Jan. 11, 2017 10:09 a.m.

    stevo123, I am referring to the closures in 2013 of such places as the WWII and Vietnam War monuments on the national mall in DC, which it probably took more money to barricade off than it would have to keep it open. Other monuments he closed at the time include Mt. Rushmore, the St. Louis Gateway Arch, and the Grand Canyon.

    I don't think Sen. Lee had anything to do with any of those closures.

  • Prometheus Platypus Orem, UT
    Jan. 11, 2017 10:07 a.m.

    Traveller said: "Or when he unilaterally gave even more Utah land to the federal government without any discussion with our local leaders."

    Not Utah Land, but Public land inside of the State, why is it so hard for conservatives to be honest?

    Without discussion, that's another untruth in one sentence.
    Was Bishop not given every chance to create a plan?
    Did Bishop meet with anyone who didn't approve of his plan, or didn't pay him in contributions?

    ...and then Obama still shrunk the size down to what Bishop had proposed, minus the give away to extractive industries.

    Thats' just one sentence, the rest of your opinion is just that, and lacks facts and truth.

  • Prometheus Platypus Orem, UT
    Jan. 11, 2017 10:01 a.m.

    He'll be remember fondly as the President who had to fight a recession and the childish behavior of a congress, that had time to try and repeal the ACA 60 times but couldn't find time to do anything else, including that replace part they spoke of.

  • Vermonter Plymouth, MI
    Jan. 11, 2017 9:44 a.m.

    Each individual, given their circumstances in the past 8 years, will have their own individual assessment of Obama's legacy. And, it is telling that those assessments seem to be sharply divided.

    But, perhaps the broadest remembrance of Obama will be that he was stylish, fashionable, and, well, cool. And for more than half of Americans, that coolness rubbed off on each individual as they voted for Barack Obama. (However, down to its most basic and simple level, for most Americans, their vote for Obama was proof to themselves and to their closest friends that America had overcome its past.)

    For the most part, Barack Obama will not be long-remembered for what he actually did, but much more so for what he represented to each individual American.

  • stevo123 slc, ut
    Jan. 11, 2017 8:58 a.m.

    Traveler, Mike Lee owns the National Parks closure, I think Obama will be remembered as a good, if not great President.

  • Onion Daze Payson, UT
    Jan. 11, 2017 8:45 a.m.

    "It is likely neither side will be objective in their analysis of the two terms of the 44th president."

    Many "posts" about Mr. Obama's farewell speech substantiate your above statement.

  • Traveller Farmington, UT
    Jan. 11, 2017 8:41 a.m.

    I will remember him as someone everyone had great expectations for who then proved not up to the job.
    For example, winning the Nobel Peace yet proving unable to keep Iraq at peace (despite it being handed to him that way), unable to keep Russia in check, and unwilling to provide any leadership over Syria's civil war, leading to the largest refugee crisis ever.
    I will remember him as a nice guy in public who never reached out to his political opponents and who preferred to force his views on others through executive orders and working around the law rather than through negotiating and making sure the other guy got some of what he wanted too. Obamacare is merely the largest example of this.
    I will remember him as someone who was always willing to score political points rather than do what was right - like when he unnecessarily closed national monuments during the sequestration budget battle. Or when he unilaterally gave even more Utah land to the federal government without any discussion with our local leaders.

    Don't let the door hit you on the way out, Mr. President.