BYU looks to bounce back from Saint Mary's loss, hosts Pacific Saturday

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  • london_josh lincoln, CA
    Jan. 7, 2017 5:39 p.m.

    BYU is loaded with talent, but it's young talent.

    I'm thinking that we've probably got the NIT coming this year, that being said BYU will be an absolute force once we hit the stride where the young players gel as a team. I don't think that's this season, it might be next season, 3 years from now the team will be amazing.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Jan. 7, 2017 11:54 a.m.


    "What happened to the final four talk?"

    Give it a couple of years and then remember this comment.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Jan. 7, 2017 11:53 a.m.


    Agreed... If one reads the efficiency chart for Thursday Nights game they will quickly see that both Elijah and Braedon had double digit negative numbers (meaning that when they were on the floor Saint Mary's outscored BYU by more than 10 points). In fact, most of the game was played by BYU at a 10 point deficit. If you recorded the game simply go back to about the 14 minute mark in the first half when both of these players substituted in... BYU was playing even and when these 2 players rotated out we were down double digits.

    Few people see these numbers because they are typically not in the box scores of college games. Yet, it is a very telling stat... It helps identify the most efficient combination of players to have out on the floor at a given time or in a given situation. This efficiency can change from game to game and good coaches take note of this and manipulate the rotations accordingly. However, over a 5 to 10 game span you can begin to see trends that will help your team be more efficient down the stretch as you prepare for a Conference Tournament.

    So far, Beo seems to be the most efficient coming off the bench.

  • esodije ALBUQUERQUE, NM
    Jan. 7, 2017 11:19 a.m.

    Mika has made himself into a great post player, but he can't do it all. BYU needs outside shooting to beat any half-way decent team. Steven Beo is the best shooter on the team, yet he's lucky to get one open look per game.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Jan. 7, 2017 11:18 a.m.

    I think they will bounce back and beat Pacific and this is coming from the Guy who is constantly putting down BYU, sheeeesh

  • The Rock Federal Way, WA
    Jan. 7, 2017 11:07 a.m.

    SMC returned all their starters from last year and they have a lot of experience playing in at the D1 level.

    BYU started with two seniors, Kyle Davis and LJ Rose. Davis is gone. The rest of the starters are freshmen and sophomores. Most players at the D1 level don't see significant playing time until their junior year.

    The BYU team is inexperience at the D1 level and, except for the Lone Peak three, they have little experience playing together, even less playing together at the D1 level.

    Mika and Haws are fresh off their missions, as is Dastrup. Mika is exhausted after 10 to 12 minutes of play. It takes a year to really get back into Basketball shape.

    While the players need to develop patience, so do the fans. This team has the talent and the coaching to get them to the final four, but it will not happen over night. Next time they play SMC they will apply the lessons learned and the game is likely to be much different.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Jan. 7, 2017 11:00 a.m.

    I still think this team has talent, they just don't play well as a team consistently.
    I think we all saw what a well coached team looks like in St Maries. They are not any more athletic than BYU players but they are taught to defend much better, rebound better, move and pass the ball much better, and are better composed.

    I don't buy the immaturity excuse.

    It's coaching. I hope I'm wrong but I think this is as good as it is going to get under the current coaching regime.

  • HoboA1 Saratoga Springs, UT
    Jan. 7, 2017 9:37 a.m.

    What happened to the final four talk?

    Fan expectations were way too high for this group.

  • Bountiful Guy Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 7, 2017 9:29 a.m.

    The Cougars can lose to anybody. I hope today they bring players who will play well. This is a tough season to watch.

  • morpunkt Glendora, CA
    Jan. 7, 2017 8:50 a.m.

    The Lone Peak 3 are now in the big leagues. Things are a lot different now.

  • Meckofahess Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 7, 2017 8:43 a.m.

    Elijah Bryant did pretty good I thought. If he continues to get his strength back I think he will help the team. T.J. Haws needs to find his touch, not sure where it is but I hope he finds it soon especially on the 3 point shots. Go Cougs!

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    Jan. 7, 2017 8:26 a.m.

    Welcome to all the "armchair quarterbacks".

  • Rikitikitavi Cardston, Alberta
    Jan. 7, 2017 1:12 a.m.

    Elijah was a total liability on Thurs. Forcing himself into traffic, getting in trouble then tossing up poor shots.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Jan. 6, 2017 8:29 p.m.

    Pacific will be tired coming off the long bus ride from Tabonia. This fares well for BYU.

  • water rocket Magna, UT
    Jan. 6, 2017 7:26 p.m.

    A couple of "lessons" I hope BYU learned from this game were 1) Passing is faster and more efficient than dribbling. St Mary's passing was s SO effect that they had BYU's defense running all over the place, and yet they got wide open looks constantly. 2) consistent 3 point shooting can even beat a great inside game by BYU's Mika. Oh yes, I forgot to mention how Mika "showed up" ready to play. Now if only the guards would do the same!