Q&A: Can an America that agrees on little politically agree to get along?

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  • Pac 12 Champion Utah Utes Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 12:20 p.m.

    When barack was elected, he said that those who didnt agree with his agenda would have to "get to the back of the bus"

    Well libs, I hope that Trump is even LESS sympathetic and willing to negotiate than barack was.

    The madder the libs get, the better.

    I hope Trumps does as little as possible in his term(s) to even consider what libs wants.

    God bless President Trump
    God Bless the USA

  • Facts are friendly Sandy, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 11:30 a.m.

    Learning to disagree is an art...and the foundation of peaceful society. The irony is all of this, is it's the "liberal tolerance" police who are the least adept at learning to disagree peacefully and respectfully.

    Expect the "thought police" to continue, through media and Hollywood, to tell us what to think, say and do.

  • very_angry_man Arlington, TX
    Jan. 9, 2017 9:40 a.m.

    Yes we can all get along. Step 1: Stop threatening my freedom, Step 2: Pay for your own crazy programs.

  • BU52 Provo, ut
    Jan. 6, 2017 12:14 p.m.

    So half of us are considered deplorable, and everyone who ran in the last election has been termed Hitler by someone. Yes we have a long way to go, maybe we'll revert to tribalism, its happened before.

  • Lagomorph Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 6, 2017 11:54 a.m.

    John Inazu: “How do you work and shop and play with neighbors who hold such [different] beliefs?”

    Recent trends indicate that this question is almost unaskable. Journalist Bill Bishop, in his book ‘The Big Sort,’ documents the effect of political polarization in geographical terms. Neighborhoods have become increasingly segregated politically over the past 30-40 years. Where once we had neighbors with a mix of viewpoints, now they tend to think similarly. We don’t just have silo thinking and silo media, we now have silo neighborhoods. You can’t have that relationship-building over-the-fence backyard interaction or that chat over produce in the grocery with a neighbor with different political views, because, increasingly, that neighbor thinks like you.

    If even Glenn Beck and Samantha Bee can come to hugging terms (awkwardly) on the need to get to know The Other better, then the rest of us should take Inazu to heart and give it a try.

    An aside: Godwin’s Law is also commonly held to further mean that the person making the inevitable Hitler comparison has lost the argument and the discussion is effectively terminated.

  • NeilT Clearfield, UT
    Jan. 5, 2017 8:27 p.m.

    Same old same old from those on the right posting on here. Liberals are all intolerant of them. Conservatives can do no wrong, liberals can do no right. Both sides of the aisle view the world through blinders. My oldest brother and his wife are Democrat. My second brother is a staunch Republican. I get along just fine with both of them.

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    Jan. 5, 2017 4:27 p.m.

    Continued from previous post:

    I then expect residents of other States to respect the right of Utah residents to set welfare policy, marriage laws, land use, and speed limits as we see fit.

    The entire nation must respect those rights enumerated in the Constitution: Freedom of speech, press, and religion, right to own and carry guns, access to an attorney and other due process, no slavery,18 year olds and women voting, etc.

    But the federal courts have got to stop imposing made-up rights on a huge and diverse national population. Congress has to stop imposing one-size-fits-all social programs on the entire nation, while also ending deficit spending that forces all of us to pay for pork projects or social programs not properly within Congressional power.

    If Cali wants to force photographers to participate in homosexual celebrations, fine. But others should be free not to. Civil rights don't include forcing another private citizen to provide you services. The 13th amendment actually prohibits that.

    Diversity of culture between States would dramatically reduce conflict. Vote with your feet and live where the culture suits you.

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    Jan. 5, 2017 4:20 p.m.

    The only way to get along with those with whom we disagree is to afford each other the ability to live life as we both see fit. Within the privacy of our own homes that is easy enough. But within the neighborhood and community what we do can affect others and create conflict.

    The best solution is the old adage of good fences making good neighbors. In other terms, it is to respect diversity.

    The diversity we need to respect, is the diversity of culture and law between the various States and even between communities within a given State. If every city looks like NYC, or if every State has the same laws and culture as Massachusetts or California, then we really don't have diversity.

    The federal government needs to be limited to those powers specifically delegated in the Constitution. States need to be free to set laws and culture in all other cases.

    I can live with gambling, prostitution, free flowing booze, elective abortion, socialized medicine, inter-generational welfare and marriage benefits for homosexual couples in other States as long as I don't have to pay for any of it.

    Continued:

  • Vanceone Provo, UT
    Jan. 5, 2017 2:45 p.m.

    "Hillary only called the racist and sexist Trump voters Deplorable!" Says the leftists.

    And who voted for Trump? "They are all sexist and racist! It's the only reason to vote for Trump!"

    So, tell me: Exactly who voted for Trump that isn't "Deplorable" or a "Bitter Clinger" like Obama and Hillary have stated? Who is this mystical "reasonable Trump voter" that you leftists claim exist when confronted with the Deplorable comment? Because you always always call us racist, sexist, homophobic and a whole bunch of other nasty names--just because they disagreed and didn't vote Hillary for Queen for life.

  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 5, 2017 1:27 p.m.

    Get along?

    It depends; on whether democrats EVER admit they lost the election, and whether they EVER stop bellyaching.

    It wouldn't hurt for them to stop posting comments here under 3 or 4 different pseudonyms either!

    They REALLY aren't fooling anyone.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 5, 2017 1:08 p.m.

    @Thid Barker
    "She meant every word she said and said every word she meant!"

    Yes, except she regretted the casual assertion that it was half and half. The thing I'd like people to do is actually read the words she said because it is obvious to anyone with a fourth grade reading level that she was only criticizing Trump supporters who were racist or sexist (etc).

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    Jan. 5, 2017 12:22 p.m.

    @ Frozen: Whom do you think Hillary's nasty invective applied? All that Hillary said boils down to just one thing: If you disagree with my version of things, you are deplorable! Nice try but no cigar! She meant every word she said and said every word she meant!

  • Prometheus Platypus Orem, UT
    Jan. 5, 2017 12:06 p.m.

    Too funny, the usual haters of all things not "GOP PURE" reply quickly with their hate filled rants and nonsense. The inability to even see how hate fills their souls.

    Most of America is patriotic and loves their country first, then their are those who are really love their gang far more than America and if they aren't in charge it's all wrong.

    But it's easy to look at recent history of what happens when they have control.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 5, 2017 12:01 p.m.

    (continued)

    "But the other basket -- and I know this because I see friends from all over America here -- I see friends from Florida and Georgia and South Carolina and Texas -- as well as, you know, New York and California -- but that other basket of people are people who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures, and they're just desperate for change. It doesn't really even matter where it comes from. They don't buy everything he says, but he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different. They won't wake up and see their jobs disappear, lose a kid to heroin, feel like they're in a dead-end. Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well." - Hillary

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 5, 2017 12:01 p.m.

    @Thid Barker
    "If you don't agree with liberals, you are "deplorable", remember?"

    I remember Clinton's remarks about "deplorables" and it went a bit differently.

    "You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right? The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic -- you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people -- now 11 million. He tweets and retweets their offensive hateful mean-spirited rhetoric. Now, some of those folks -- they are irredeemable, but thankfully they are not America." - Hillary

    People who wear "deplorable" as a badge of honor must either be one of those awful categories... or just aren't paying attention to her remarks.

  • Vanceone Provo, UT
    Jan. 5, 2017 11:53 a.m.

    Remember, Hutterite: your side defines "compromise" and "Getting along" as: "Give in to our demands 100%, and make sure you abandon your principles and adopt ours."

    There is never, ever any hint of compromise or Democrats settling. Only Republicans and Conservatives are ever asked to give up what they want for peace. It's like this: "We want to do Stalin. Oh, you don't want Stalin? We should all compromise. Mao it is! Or Castro. Your choice. You might twist our arm enough for Pol Pol or Che Guevara."

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    Jan. 5, 2017 11:32 a.m.

    If you don't agree with liberals, you are "deplorable", remember?

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Jan. 5, 2017 11:32 a.m.

    Clearly, judging from some posts here, we've still got some challenges. There are some really bitter republican supporters out there.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Jan. 5, 2017 10:58 a.m.

    millenials appear to have bought in to intolerant PC-ism, with their desire to restrict free speech.

    can we get along? dems don't seem to want to, unless we succumb to them. I remember the Bork hearings, where their vitriole reached new lows. harry was as nasty and partisan as anyone I can remember while leader of the dems in the senate

  • Vanceone Provo, UT
    Jan. 5, 2017 10:41 a.m.

    Democrats scream at half the nation, calling them "Bitter clingers" and "Deplorables" and sexist, racist, bigoted, etc for disagreeing with them.

    The left calls for "Tolerance" yet says "We don't have to tolerate the intolerant. And who are the intolerant? Why, those people we disagree with!"

    The left demanded the IRS punish Conservatives. They want health care denied to Republicans, and they call for the US to punish "Hate speech" which they define as "Speech we don't like." Your job and even physical safety is in jeopardy on college campuses if you dare to be to the right of Mao.

    The left openly argues against freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, and freedom of the press and religion. They argue against the right to defend yourself.

    So why should I try to cooperate with them again? They want America to look like the Soviet Union.

  • Sven Morgan, UT
    Jan. 5, 2017 10:12 a.m.

    "Q&A: Can an America that agrees on little politically agree to get along?"

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    Why is this bogus question only asked when a Republican wins the White House?

    Did Barack Obama, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi or Chuck Schumer "reach across aisle" and try to work with Republicans? Nope! They worked daily to vilify the GOP.

    Sorry, but the Liberal, onerous policies of Barrack Hussein Obama and the Democrat Party were roundly rejected on November 8th. You guys had your chance, and you screwed it up.

    We didn't elect a Republican President, House, and Senate to work with Democrats on crafting policy. We elected these folks to stop, and repeal their destructive policies...period!

    Barack Obama and the Democrats have been rejected!