"Sir, you do not live in Kanab as all my father's family does. The
Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument has been devastating to the
agricultural economy, "I no longer live in Kanab, but did for
many years. So I know of what I speak. You are wrong on both counts.
Barry hasn't even seen the ground. Interesting libs want the Feds to
control more and more land. They already own about 80% of Utah.
Utah has no one to blame except our elected officials. They tried to pass a bill
that did not protect the land but did protect those who wanted to plunder the
land for their own and our legislators bank accounts. They had a chance but
repubs had ample opportunity to act on this but failed for years.President
Obama finally acted and there is nothing they can do to change it so why not
embrace it? Why are repubs so afraid of moving forward, of making positive
changes? Not everything has to be based on the extraction industry and ranching.
Too bad Bishop and Chaffetz didn't work harder for a TRULY bipartisan
public lands initiative that had a chance of being signed into law. I suspect
that the PLI was designed to fail, so that a monument designation would could be
used as a rallying cry for the next generation of sagebrush rebelliousness. Good luck fighting this is the courts, guys. The real losers in this
fight will not be the people of San Juan County, but the taxpayers who are
footing the legal bills for a quixotic run at this 1.4 million acre windmill.
I will strongly encourage President Trump to reverse this slap in the face and
throw the Escalante fiasco as a counter punch.This is a joke. It is not
meant to be used for this.
PLI was going to include two conservation areas similar in acreage to the
present Bears Ears. A National Monument is apparently though a very bad deed and
should be reversed? Just like effort at health care reform, expanded Medicaid
and all the negative banter re the Grandstaircase/Escalante. Maybe the politicos
can work at shutting down the government again - and then come up with funds to
open the National Parks that the public flocks to. The narrative and story line
in these pieces - which is so NEGATIVE - forgets to tell the reader that the
same thing happened decades ago when Arches/Canyonlands was announced. Utter
alarm from the Right (back then) and today we have the same arch enemies of
nature and society, with similar loud pronouncements. And history, is not on
It seems that the lawsuit approach has led to absolutely nothing as our state
has tried to move land from federal to Utah jurisdiction. Let's not waste
money on another "wishful thinking" legal action. So far our lawsuits
have only benefited the legal profession.
The Governor and Utah politicians love to fight lost causes don't they? It
reminds me of their battle against same-sex marriage. How much money will this
cost us? And will Sean Reyes get involved?
So the Governor and other Utah politicians are acting surprised and upset over
the new national monument? Its not like they didn't see it coming. Why
didn't they act when they could do something about it?
Is it just me or does it seem like our federal delegation cares way more about
rural Utah compared to where the majority of the states population resides.
@one old man Sir, you do not live in Kanab as all my father's
family does. The Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument has been
devastating to the agricultural economy, causing a massive loss that far exceeds
the minimal increase in tourism. Tourism that would've continued at the
present pace without the monument designation, I assure you.If you
live in a big city (by Kanab's standards) on the other side of the state,
you have no authority to speak on behave of Kanab's residents. We still
have not forgiven Bill Clinton for his mistake in Grand Staircase. And those who
live in the Bear Ears region will never forgive Obama for his.
So all you people that have never actually been there and actually think that
this will help southeast utah, maybe you should actually visit. In Grand and
San Juan counties one can find Arches National Park, Canyonlands national park,
Lake Powell and Glen Canyon national monument, Hovenweep national monument,
Natural Bridges national monument, Monument valley, the Navajo reservation,
Rainbow Bridge national monument and several state parks plus a national forest.
The federal government controls most of the land, including this parcel even
before Obama changed the designation.The Utah Navajos are not in favor of
this nor are the rest of the county residents. If it wasn't protected
already then one should check with the current owner who is whom, oh yeah the
federal government.No one is against the protection of land it was just
the volume that was taken. A smaller monument would still work.
Keep fighting! Utah lands should be used as Utahans see fit, not what some guy
at a desk in some mid-floor office in Washington sees fit.Protect
the tenth amendment. Protect our state's right to self govern and manage
our own lands.
Besides reducing the size of the monument to a few acres (5?); Trump could
always refuse funding the monument.ANY "executive action"
(which this obviously is) is most likely unconstitutional on its face, in that
it commits succeeding Congress's to continually fund this monument.What "worked" in 1906 doesn't necessarily work now, and I
suspect the Supreme Court would see it that way.
"Rather than shut out local residents, the (Obama) administration should
look for ways to strengthen schools, pave roads and build the local
economy."I am sorry... but you want the federal government to do
the state's job? Schools, roads, local economy... not Obama's job.
Management of federally held lands, Obama's job. I am not sure what the
ultimate impact of this decision will be. It transfers no private lands into a
public/governmental body. The name on the title for the land doesn't
change. What this means for public access, that is tbd. Rather
than getting into wasteful and expensive stone throwing battles stuck with
extreme solutions, it would be best that the Utah contingent focus on "ways
to strengthen schools, pave roads and build the local economy." That is
their job, one that they didn't do before the monument, and now seems to be
an excuse to still do nothing in the future to address those issues.
@Conservative ScientistThank you for taking the time to comment.The local angst including Federal Reps/Senators surrounding the
Park/Monument etc. near Jackson Wyoming was large.The blessing of
the Park/Monument etc., over time, has all but erased memories of the
aggravation of the States Rights crowd.
Don't waste tax money on a losing battle.Spend it on education...Quit trying to bulldoze everything in sight, Guv.
Anything that makes "Utah's leaders seethe" has to be good.
I have studied to some extent the history of the use of the antiquities act and
despite a vow to do everything possible to overturn it by local leaders, I doubt
there is much that can be done. In looking at the history of both our national
parks and also our national monuments, there was almost always widespread local
antagonism at the time of the parks designation. I'm not saying it was
right for President Obama to create the monument in this manner, I'm just
saying that options are likely limited and our strength and resources may be
best spent elsewhere rather than trying to fight it. Multiple cases of national
monuments have gone all the way to the Supreme Court and my understanding is
they have always kept the monument in place.
Well done Obama, for listening to the Native Tribes and preserving the land for
everyone instead of oil/gas companies.
It's time for Barrack Obama to retire.
Rather than reverse this, Trump should simply reduce the size of the monument to
a tiny few acres - to stand as a symbolic monument to the small-minded president
who created it. We could call it Obama's Ears National
This will turn out to be a real blessing for the people of Southeastern Utah. A
few years from now and they will be reaping financial rewards just as the people
of Kanab, Tropic, and other towns near national parks and monuments are now
pulling in.Someday, believe it or not, they will actually be
THANKING Mr. Obama!
The Utah Land Snatch Committee failed miserably. Perhaps republicans
should place blame where it lies, with Bishop who only met with those who want
to steal America's land for short term profit.When will we see
what 14 million was spent on governor?
Utah might start by denying federal applications to appropriate 4.4 million
acre-feet of Utah's water currently pending.