Fight on over Bears Ears monument in Utah

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  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Dec. 29, 2016 3:27 p.m.

    "Sir, you do not live in Kanab as all my father's family does. The Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument has been devastating to the agricultural economy, "

    I no longer live in Kanab, but did for many years. So I know of what I speak. You are wrong on both counts.

  • Well Read SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Dec. 29, 2016 1:56 p.m.

    Utah has no one to blame except our elected officials. They tried to pass a bill that did not protect the land but did protect those who wanted to plunder the land for their own and our legislators bank accounts. They had a chance but muffed it!

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 29, 2016 12:02 p.m.

    repubs had ample opportunity to act on this but failed for years.
    President Obama finally acted and there is nothing they can do to change it so why not embrace it? Why are repubs so afraid of moving forward, of making positive changes? Not everything has to be based on the extraction industry and ranching.

  • Spangs Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 29, 2016 11:52 a.m.

    Too bad Bishop and Chaffetz didn't work harder for a TRULY bipartisan public lands initiative that had a chance of being signed into law. I suspect that the PLI was designed to fail, so that a monument designation would could be used as a rallying cry for the next generation of sagebrush rebelliousness.

    Good luck fighting this is the courts, guys. The real losers in this fight will not be the people of San Juan County, but the taxpayers who are footing the legal bills for a quixotic run at this 1.4 million acre windmill.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Dec. 29, 2016 11:40 a.m.

    I will strongly encourage President Trump to reverse this slap in the face and throw the Escalante fiasco as a counter punch.
    This is a joke. It is not meant to be used for this.

  • wasatchcascade ,
    Dec. 29, 2016 11:01 a.m.

    PLI was going to include two conservation areas similar in acreage to the present Bears Ears. A National Monument is apparently though a very bad deed and should be reversed? Just like effort at health care reform, expanded Medicaid and all the negative banter re the Grandstaircase/Escalante. Maybe the politicos can work at shutting down the government again - and then come up with funds to open the National Parks that the public flocks to. The narrative and story line in these pieces - which is so NEGATIVE - forgets to tell the reader that the same thing happened decades ago when Arches/Canyonlands was announced. Utter alarm from the Right (back then) and today we have the same arch enemies of nature and society, with similar loud pronouncements. And history, is not on their side.

  • Steve Cottrell Centerville, UT
    Dec. 29, 2016 10:54 a.m.

    It seems that the lawsuit approach has led to absolutely nothing as our state has tried to move land from federal to Utah jurisdiction. Let's not waste money on another "wishful thinking" legal action. So far our lawsuits have only benefited the legal profession.

  • Red Corvette St George, UT
    Dec. 29, 2016 10:53 a.m.

    The Governor and Utah politicians love to fight lost causes don't they? It reminds me of their battle against same-sex marriage. How much money will this cost us? And will Sean Reyes get involved?

  • Silver Stingray St George, UT
    Dec. 29, 2016 10:50 a.m.

    So the Governor and other Utah politicians are acting surprised and upset over the new national monument? Its not like they didn't see it coming. Why didn't they act when they could do something about it?

  • Shaun Sandy, UT
    Dec. 29, 2016 10:32 a.m.

    Is it just me or does it seem like our federal delegation cares way more about rural Utah compared to where the majority of the states population resides.

  • Roar Provo, UT
    Dec. 29, 2016 10:28 a.m.

    @one old man

    Sir, you do not live in Kanab as all my father's family does. The Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument has been devastating to the agricultural economy, causing a massive loss that far exceeds the minimal increase in tourism. Tourism that would've continued at the present pace without the monument designation, I assure you.

    If you live in a big city (by Kanab's standards) on the other side of the state, you have no authority to speak on behave of Kanab's residents. We still have not forgiven Bill Clinton for his mistake in Grand Staircase. And those who live in the Bear Ears region will never forgive Obama for his.

  • high school fan Huntington, UT
    Dec. 29, 2016 10:20 a.m.

    So all you people that have never actually been there and actually think that this will help southeast utah, maybe you should actually visit. In Grand and San Juan counties one can find Arches National Park, Canyonlands national park, Lake Powell and Glen Canyon national monument, Hovenweep national monument, Natural Bridges national monument, Monument valley, the Navajo reservation, Rainbow Bridge national monument and several state parks plus a national forest. The federal government controls most of the land, including this parcel even before Obama changed the designation.
    The Utah Navajos are not in favor of this nor are the rest of the county residents. If it wasn't protected already then one should check with the current owner who is whom, oh yeah the federal government.
    No one is against the protection of land it was just the volume that was taken. A smaller monument would still work.

  • Snyder Scowl Provo, UT
    Dec. 29, 2016 10:20 a.m.

    Keep fighting! Utah lands should be used as Utahans see fit, not what some guy at a desk in some mid-floor office in Washington sees fit.

    Protect the tenth amendment. Protect our state's right to self govern and manage our own lands.

  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 29, 2016 10:10 a.m.

    Besides reducing the size of the monument to a few acres (5?); Trump could always refuse funding the monument.

    ANY "executive action" (which this obviously is) is most likely unconstitutional on its face, in that it commits succeeding Congress's to continually fund this monument.

    What "worked" in 1906 doesn't necessarily work now, and I suspect the Supreme Court would see it that way.

  • UtahBlueDevil Lehi Ut & Durham, NC
    Dec. 29, 2016 9:59 a.m.

    "Rather than shut out local residents, the (Obama) administration should look for ways to strengthen schools, pave roads and build the local economy."

    I am sorry... but you want the federal government to do the state's job? Schools, roads, local economy... not Obama's job. Management of federally held lands, Obama's job. I am not sure what the ultimate impact of this decision will be. It transfers no private lands into a public/governmental body. The name on the title for the land doesn't change. What this means for public access, that is tbd.

    Rather than getting into wasteful and expensive stone throwing battles stuck with extreme solutions, it would be best that the Utah contingent focus on "ways to strengthen schools, pave roads and build the local economy." That is their job, one that they didn't do before the monument, and now seems to be an excuse to still do nothing in the future to address those issues.

  • There You Go Again St George, UT
    Dec. 29, 2016 9:55 a.m.

    @Conservative Scientist

    Thank you for taking the time to comment.

    The local angst including Federal Reps/Senators surrounding the Park/Monument etc. near Jackson Wyoming was large.

    The blessing of the Park/Monument etc., over time, has all but erased memories of the aggravation of the States Rights crowd.

  • Lia Sandy, UT
    Dec. 29, 2016 9:53 a.m.

    Don't waste tax money on a losing battle.
    Spend it on education...
    Quit trying to bulldoze everything in sight, Guv.

  • Ranch Here, UT
    Dec. 29, 2016 9:08 a.m.

    Anything that makes "Utah's leaders seethe" has to be good.

  • conservative scientist Lindon, UT
    Dec. 29, 2016 8:16 a.m.

    I have studied to some extent the history of the use of the antiquities act and despite a vow to do everything possible to overturn it by local leaders, I doubt there is much that can be done. In looking at the history of both our national parks and also our national monuments, there was almost always widespread local antagonism at the time of the parks designation. I'm not saying it was right for President Obama to create the monument in this manner, I'm just saying that options are likely limited and our strength and resources may be best spent elsewhere rather than trying to fight it. Multiple cases of national monuments have gone all the way to the Supreme Court and my understanding is they have always kept the monument in place.

  • IceCreamGhost Sandy, UT
    Dec. 29, 2016 12:26 a.m.

    Well done Obama, for listening to the Native Tribes and preserving the land for everyone instead of oil/gas companies.

  • worf McAllen, TX
    Dec. 28, 2016 10:41 p.m.

    It's time for Barrack Obama to retire.

  • Harrison Bergeron Holladay , UT
    Dec. 28, 2016 9:46 p.m.

    Rather than reverse this, Trump should simply reduce the size of the monument to a tiny few acres - to stand as a symbolic monument to the small-minded president who created it.

    We could call it Obama's Ears National Monument.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Dec. 28, 2016 9:25 p.m.

    This will turn out to be a real blessing for the people of Southeastern Utah. A few years from now and they will be reaping financial rewards just as the people of Kanab, Tropic, and other towns near national parks and monuments are now pulling in.

    Someday, believe it or not, they will actually be THANKING Mr. Obama!

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Dec. 28, 2016 9:00 p.m.

    The Utah Land Snatch Committee failed miserably.
    Perhaps republicans should place blame where it lies, with Bishop who only met with those who want to steal America's land for short term profit.

    When will we see what 14 million was spent on governor?

  • Red Smith American Fork, UT
    Dec. 28, 2016 8:26 p.m.

    Utah might start by denying federal applications to appropriate 4.4 million acre-feet of Utah's water currently pending.