@David Lloyd-Jones:"Fear of Sha'aria in the United States is
entirely the work of delusionals, cranks, and self-serving fear mongers."The fear of Shariah in the United States is the fear that, accepting
this type of mid-east governance, will mean the end to Western Culture.
I don't think these "supporters" have gone far enough. They need
to get out on the streets and bow down to Alllah! Now that's a show of
ArizonaMormon, You have it right about Sha'aria. In my childhood, Sha'aria was "the law of the land," i.e. part of
the provincial legal code, in Ontario, Canada. As everwhere, it applied only to
followers of Islam, and its main applicability was in marriage law, and only
where people included it in their marriage contracts, and in commercial
agreements where both parties agreed beforehand. It was removed from
the law for an odd reason. A small minority of self-declared "orthodox"
Jews were using their own cruel misreading of Jewish law, on the books in
parallel with Sha'aria, to mistreat their wives during divorces. Small quick amendments made it possible for both communities to continue to
use their customs by mutual agreement, but without "The State" appearing
to back up cranks. Fear of Sha'aria in the United States is
entirely the work of delusionals, cranks, and self-serving fear mongers.
And of course, well done, BYU kids! Happy Channukah to all! -dlj.
This gesture is an insult to the women wearing this outfit, this is not in their
aid. This scarf, and more eg hijab, burka etc, is forced upon the Islamic
women by the men to ensure the man's low life attitude towards morality and
the man's definition of proper behaviour.It is misogynist control, as
has been normal throughout human history, and is indoctrinated into their
religious dogma. The women are 'taught', by men, to believe that it is
for their modesty and advances their holiness.It is a control mechanism,
and these 'supportive' women are just kidding themselves and are
simply augmenting this controlling behaviour.
I have considered wearing a skull cap (topi, taquiya, knit cap, kufi, or
whatever) to show solidarity with Muslim men. The only thing holding me back is
the fear of rousing more heat than light. I especially might cause a stir if I
wore it my LDS meetings, since I am in a branch presidency. Is there a
prohibition in Church doctrine against wearing hats in church, or is it just a
cultural custom of western Christianity?Does anyone know if Jesus
had His head covered when worshiping His Father?
@Husker1"This isn't about ISIS."It is in the
comment I was responding to.
I can appreciate wanting to support Muslims; but I question the validity by
wearing a garment that is designed to prove women to be inferior and
subserviant. Islam isnt peaceful. The Shi'ites and Sunnis
murder each other more than anyone else, and thats saying alot. Islam denies that Christ is God and there is no middle ground with them.
@ hemlock. "One is for others to see. "I believe it's
more of "not to be seen."
@Frozen "What they would think is that organizations like ISIS should be
the ones to blame, not all Muslims."This isn't about ISIS.
I have spent considerable time in countries that enforce Sharia Law.
Women's rights are extremely limited and they are treated like third-class
citizens. I find this symbolic show of support for Islam very puzzling,
especially the fact that women are willing to show support for a religion that
treats women very harshly as a whole.
ute alumni - SLC, UTDec. 15, 2016 4:06 p.m."Are the Muslim
students going to wear sacred LDS clothing to show solidarity?"One is for others to see. The latter is private and has significance only for
the individual who is wearing them.
A beautiful statement by the students. Good on them.
Reference donning the hijab:I checked a few reliable travel
websites. Women visiting certain Islamic countries are asked to wear a
headscarf irrespective of their religion or background.Others
wearing sacred LDS clothing (as some have suggested) would not be a show of
solidarity (or respect).
@VermonterThe eyes only garment is called a Niqab. A Hijab just covers the
hair.Honest question though, is it disrespectful for a non-muslim
to wear the hijab? Some countries that require Burkas and niqabs require them
of all women but I'm not sure about hijabs. My understanding is
there's nothing special about it, it's the modesty provided by
covering up but I'm unsure. Somewhat unrelated, one of my
co-workers just returned from his Hajj. It was wonderful to talk with him about
it and share some of my experiences in the temple. I was very honored that he
talked about such a deeply spiritual experience and that I was able to
@Vanceone"Prediction: Every single one of these students thinks that
ISIS is being falsely blamed"I don't think a single one of
them think that. What they would think is that organizations like ISIS should be
the ones to blame, not all Muslims.
Cool gesture by these BYU students. I don't understand the negative
reaction in some of these posts. As a Latter-day Saint, I believe
that one day Jesus Christ will return to the earth to reign temporally on the
earth, thus replacing democracy with theocracy. That doesn't mean that I am
in any way advocating for the imminent overthrow of the United States in the
name of the Lord.I believe that it is possible (and commonplace) for
Muslims to have the same approach. One can be a devout, faithful Muslim and be
pro-democracy, pro-constitution, pro-freedom, and pro-choice.Hasn't anyone noticed that Shariah law bears a strong resemblance to the
Mosaic law? But then why don't we see Latter-day Saints attacking Orthodox
Jews the same way they attack Muslims?
They probably are familiar with middle eastern customs.I just wonder
how well they understand Sharia law, and how much of it they support. If one of
daughters were to do this, we would have to talk, at length.
Just curious. Did the men who are members of the BYU Muslim Association also
don the hijab? Also, did any of the non-Muslim members of the Association don
the eyes-only-showing black hijab to show solidarity the various sects of Islam?
Prediction: Every single one of these students thinks that ISIS is being falsely
blamed and that we need to import all their single military age men and let them
loose through the country. And they all vote Democrat.I understand
wanting to find the good in Islam, and there is some there, no question. But it
is far, far overshadowed by the whole "Kill the infidel" that is
commanded by the Koran. But I'm open here. Let's propose
a "BYU students wear the hijab" week in exchange for letting the
missionaries into Saudi Arabia. A fine trade, in my opinion.