In our opinion: Donald Trump should resign his candidacy

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  • Patriot Girl - San Diego San Diego, CA
    Nov. 7, 2016 5:49 p.m.

    What is at stake in this election in much greater than candidates and their imperfections. Those without sin throw the stone. The America our Founding Fathers gave us has been both Obama's and Mrs. Clinton's target and playdough as they go about "fundamentally transforming" the divinely-inspired government of our patriot ancestors. All means of deceit and above-the-law tactics have been used by Clinton and her liberal left allies to bully, exert government control, and re-shape the Constitution and nation. Where is call for her accountability for her crimes, her coercion – her deconstructing American justice and liberties at risk, including free speech, the right to bear arms, and the right to be a Christian openly, abiding by Christian values? I do not excuse Trump’s offensive words, but the greater part of him is out to save the land of our inheritance, now hanging by a thread.

  • DaveMc San Diego, CA
    Nov. 7, 2016 2:45 p.m.

    "...as we hope for a more auspicious future of liberty, prosperity and peace for the nation."

    More than hope will be required to keep the balance of the Supreme Court toward the protection of our sacred constitution. The left intimidates - suppressing free-speech with vigilante-style retaliation and slander. They are organized and relentless. I want to protect the 1st amendment from those who Hillary would appoint as justices. My religious freedoms, my ability to oppose the government and other forms of immorality hang in the balance in this election.

    The essence of politics is compromise. I'm swallowing hard as I vote Trump, but I will vote Trump as the evidence is before us that his policies support our most basic and essential liberties. This election has tested my resolve to stand for the tenants which hold our free country together. I pray for Trump and believe that if he gets down on his knees, he can lead this nation.

  • MeatNCheese Edmond, OK
    Oct. 30, 2016 12:27 p.m.

    Am I mistaken, or hasn't there been at least one person in the First Presidency (historically) who had a problem with his 'potty mouth'?

    I also agree that our military being, at times, the most foul-mouthed organization I've known - but completely willing to protect and serve the United States. Language isn't the only characteristic of character.

    Also, Deseret News is reportedly a subsidiary of Deseret Management Corporation, a holding company owned by the Corporation of the President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

    If true, the DN has violated the IRS tax code prohibiting churches (and, presumably, their agents) from political activism in order to retain their tax exempt status.

    Being anti-Trump = being for someone else = violation? Thin ice.

  • JLFuller Boise, ID
    Oct. 25, 2016 2:15 p.m.

    Not all Mormons are stupid people. We know that character no longer matters in politics. If so, and the Brethren thought it was needful to comment on the subject, they would not have implicitly endorsed Hillary Clinton. Nor world they have stood silent on Barack Obama and they definitley would not have stayed silent on Bill Clinton. But now, because there is this notion that the world sees us as American, and not internationalist, the move is on the distance Church from anything that smacks of being pro-American.

    They should have stayed silent. Better yet, the Brethren should have directed members everywhere to look beyond mere personal flaws because personal flaws have little to do with governance. But given the Brethren chose to involve the Church in partisan politics they should have directed members to examine the candidates life-long patterns of behavior. It may not have helped Trump much but it definitely would not have given HRC the implicit nod of approval.

  • wrz Provo, UT
    Oct. 21, 2016 12:48 p.m.

    "The most recent revelations of Trump’s lewdness disturb us not only because of his vulgar objectification of women, but also because they poignantly confirm Trump’s inability to self-govern."

    We have a choice between Trump and Hillary. Yes, Trump has uttered lewdness but has apologized to the public for it. But, what about Hillary's history...

    She lies then lies about lying. As Secretary of State she used a private server and email for government business allowing the world to hack into government classified information. She destroyed classified information. As Secretary of state, she and Bill got wealthy through a Charity Foundation to which millions were donated in exchange for government favors. She got off from being indicted for her illegal activities as Secretary of State by Bill secretly meeting with the US Attorney General in a plane on a tarmac. She is happy to allow the death of partly born babies (partial birth abortion). If she becomes president, Bill will be in the White House... and we know what he did in the privacy of the Oval Office.

  • Contrarius mid-state, TN
    Oct. 17, 2016 7:36 a.m.

    @John K --

    "So the Deseret News believes people can change and be forgiven, but not for Trump."

    Do you forgive Bill Cosby for all the women he is accused of attacking? We should just let him go about his merry way?

    And you forgive Trump for bragging about sexual assaults that are backed up by multiple victims, but you don't forgive the Clintons for what you *think* they've done?

    Double standard much?

  • John K Carmichael, CA
    Oct. 17, 2016 12:02 a.m.

    So the Deseret News believes people can change and be forgiven, but not for Trump.

  • Rodolfo Cumming, GA
    Oct. 16, 2016 3:04 p.m.

    Wow, this article is an extension of CNN. I'm an LDS Member (Mormon) and I'm really sad to see how many modern Gadianton Robbers are inside the church and inside the government. Not referring to the prophet, apostles, and other leaders, they are men of God.
    Among these Gadianton Robbers are the editor of this article, Mitt Romney and his minions (other known "Mormons" in the political arena) who are traitors and conspirators to their religion and country.

    Many members of the church, including myself, are voting and supporting Donald Trump, but the media is hiding it.
    I HOPE PEOPLE WAKE UP, and stop being lulled by the media.

    Hosea 4:6 (Bible, Old Testament)
    6 ¶My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee.

    if you can get your hands on this book "An Enemy Hath Done This" by Ezra Taft Benson, please read it.

    God Bless America, God Bless Donald Trump

  • Contrariuser mid-state, TN
    Oct. 16, 2016 2:16 p.m.

    @John K --

    "So Clinton immorality, crime, and corruption are character traits that don't matter to the Deseret News."

    Facts matter to the DN. And the fact is that most of the accusations that have been hurled at the Clintons over the years have been false.

  • John K Carmichael, CA
    Oct. 16, 2016 8:09 a.m.

    So Clinton immorality, crime, and corruption are character traits that don't matter to the Deseret News.

  • Contrariusiest mid-state, TN
    Oct. 15, 2016 6:26 p.m.

    @dbur971 --

    "Why is his locker room talk"

    Yet again -- it was not "locker room talk". The man was bragging about committing multiple sexual assaults.

    "B&H Clinton's years of sustained sexual abuse of women"

    Surely you can tell the difference between consensual affairs and nonconsensual sexual assault?

    There is no "years of sustained sexual abuse" in Bill's case. Only two women have accused him of physical assault -- and both of those women signed sworn testimony that no such thing ever happened.

    "and subsequent attacks of the victims by H?"

    Check out Politifact's analysis of Trump's claim -- "Trump says Clinton viciously attacked those who charged abuse by Bill". They have a long analysis, followed by the overall rating "Mostly False".

    "Similar tapes are emerging on B&H and their operatives as well as Obama"

    Nonsense.

    If you actually believe this ludicrous claim, please present your evidence.

    Be specific.

    We'll be waiting.

  • dbur971 McMinnville, OR
    Oct. 15, 2016 12:36 p.m.

    (cont...)

    Step back and think. What you have done is no different than the evangelical rejection of Romney. Just from a different viewpoint. I saw so many evangelicals swearing there is no way they can vote for a Mormon. Oh polygamy, Gold Plates, Joseph Smith, not even Christian!!! All the while his political principles were probably closer to what they wanted than any other candidate has been.

    You have just done the same thing they did and helped seal the deal for Hillary. At least you could have also issued a similar simultaneous condemnation of Hillary.

    Similar tapes are emerging on B&H and their operatives as well as Obama, are you going to also write hit pieces on them to even the score? Too late, damage is done.

  • dbur971 McMinnville, OR
    Oct. 15, 2016 12:36 p.m.

    Nice hit piece. Even though everything you said is likely true we've all known what Trump was, so why so surprised now? Why is his locker room talk more offensive than B&H Clinton's years of sustained sexual abuse of women and subsequent attacks of the victims by H? Some would say it sounds like classic Utah Mormon self-righteousness and hypocrisy. (I've always had a problem with that concept and don't accept it myself, so don't be offended Utah Mormons.)

    You have handed an unexpected gift to the Hillary campaign. I'm sure they're dancing in their headquarters and making fun of the idiot Mormons.

    (cont.. comment screen won't allow me my 1200 chars)

  • misanthrope sl, UT
    Oct. 14, 2016 11:45 p.m.

    Many people are discovering that standards and principals are all well and good, until holding them interferes with something one wants.
    Trump was bragging about committing adultery, and perhaps worse, enticing someone else to also commit adultery. Just to remind everyone, adultery is one of the big 10.
    And for the puerile comment that "I belong to a church that believes in forgiveness," Yes, but trump doesn't. In fact, when asked if he could remember what the last thing he asked God's forgiveness for, he said he couldn't remember ever asking God for forgiveness for anything. That is trump in a nutshell, low and unrepentant.
    So, one can descend into the darkness of justifying wickedness because..supreme court, she's a crook, etc... but one is selling one's integrity to do so.

  • Garnet Hamilton, MT
    Oct. 14, 2016 7:55 p.m.

    To the deseretnews:
    This is a strong piece of writing, restrained and well edited and clearly backed up by a confident and equitable position of responsible leadership. Thank you,

  • jc for president Chicago, IL
    Oct. 14, 2016 3:10 p.m.

    Trump must not resign. He was chosen by the wise people of Fox News and GOP. He was vetted and found deplorable. If he was to be replaced now, less then a month to election, we wouldn't be able to do a proper vetting needed to make sure the new person is not yet another sociopath. That's my take on it. Republicans picked him, let republicans deal with him.

  • Seaker , CA
    Oct. 14, 2016 1:06 p.m.

    @Contrarius - mid-state, TN

    Appears "Contrarius - mid-state, TN" is the watchdog for this comment section and has attacked many comments here. Contrarius should be more civil and respect other peoples opinions. Remember...not everyone believes your views either.

  • Contrarius mid-state, TN
    Oct. 14, 2016 12:37 p.m.

    @Seaker --

    "1) Tilted Supreme Court impacting important issues"

    I should hope so. Out with those voter suppression laws!

    I do hope that Garland gets confirmed, however.

    "2) Reduced or ban of Right to bear arms - possible Executive Order"

    Please learn more about the Constitution. Executive Orders only affect Federal departments (like Dept. of Education regulations) -- they can't change laws in this way.

    "3) Support for Hollywood to continue it's display of immorality, gutter language, and perverse clothing to our children through music and social media."

    Seriously? This is a big concern for you? If you're so concerned about immorality and gutter language, you need look no further than Trump of the many affairs and the foul mouth.

    "4) Increased Liberal teachings taught to our Children in school (Bathroom laws)."

    Again -- I should hope so! We need more love and acceptance, less hate and divisiveness.

    "5) Support for activist groups to attack Religious Freedoms ..."

    Yeah, no. Yet again -- religion is NOT an excuse for discrimination. Please stop playing the victim here.

  • Seaker , CA
    Oct. 14, 2016 10:53 a.m.

    Hard to support Trump but still wrestling with the idea of Hillary elected:

    Here is what we most likely will face if Hillary is elected:
    1) Tilted Supreme Court impacting important issues
    2) Reduced or ban of Right to bear arms - possible Executive Order
    3) Support for Hollywood to continue it's display of immorality, gutter language, and perverse clothing to our children through music and social media.
    4) Increased Liberal teachings taught to our Children in school (Bathroom laws).
    5) Support for activist groups to attack Religious Freedoms - she won't attack us directly but will allow the groups to do it.

    It doesn't appear congress or the senate will be able to stop her. Not sure what to do.

  • pickmerg gunnison, UT
    Oct. 13, 2016 11:31 p.m.

    The DN has been against Trump from day one. This is no surprise. "He who is with out sin let him cast the first stone."

  • Bobster Boise, ID
    Oct. 12, 2016 11:38 p.m.

    Neither the Republicans nor the Democrats offers a satisfactory candidate in this election. On the Democrat side, it is simply giving the candidacy to the person who has been waiting for all these many years to ascend to the position she believes she is entitled to. Just ask Debbie Wasserman Schultz. On the Republican side it is a little more difficult to peg. The establishment desperately wanted one of their own to get the nod, but all those guys lacked any fire or appeal. The conservative in the bunch, Ted Cruz, had to fight off the efforts of the establishment to derail his candidacy. This opened the door for Trump. By the time the establishment realized they had a bigger problem with Trump and tried to back conservative Ted, it was too late. I would like to see Ted Cruz start a new third party, the conservative party. Constitutional, Fiscally Responsible,Rule of Law means something. It will take someone like a Reagan to create such a party.

  • Moracle Blackshear, GA
    Oct. 12, 2016 2:22 p.m.

    Regardless of disclaimer in the Deseret News article that Trump should step down, LDS that I know (without exception so far), say they think Deseret News would not have published that kind of opinion without an okay from the Presiding Brethren. (Which will probably make many think the brethren are telling us not to vote for Trump.)

    Other, non-LDS who read the article might think the same.

    Donald Trump would likely wonder the same... Which disturbs me, because we may wind up once again, with a president who sees Mormons as an obstacle... And that has not served us well in the past, as in the case of Martin Van Buren.

    It might be a good thing, if a reputable source were to give assurance to voters & Trump that Church leaders had absolutely nothing to do with it.

  • Contrarius mid-state, TN
    Oct. 12, 2016 1:47 p.m.

    @IDC --

    "I realize Bill Clinton isn't running but he has done far worse by action than what was spoken by Trump."

    Like what?

    Please be specific.

    And remember -- the only two women who have accused Bill of nonconsensual physical contact, Willey and Broaddrick, both signed sworn statements that no such thing ever happened.

    In start contrast, Trump **bragged** about committing multiple sexual assaults. And he has admitted also to having multiple affairs, including affairs with married women.

  • IDC Boise, ID
    Oct. 12, 2016 1:03 p.m.

    OH brother. What he said is disrespectful and bad. I realize Bill Clinton isn't running but he has done far worse by action than what was spoken by Trump. I would rather Trump say bad things about me, my wife, or my daughter than to have my money and freedoms taken away by Hillary. Any democrat that judges Trump for this needs some introspection into the behavior of their own party.

    I don't love Trump but at least he is an outsider and has a clue about how money and taxes work. Hillary is an insider through and through. She is rich from political favor and fame and is influenced by the money. Hillary cares about power and Hillary, that is it.

  • notmorejustles Hereford, AZ
    Oct. 12, 2016 11:25 a.m.

    Not sure how you can take something Trump "said" 10 years ago and think it is more relevant than what Hillary has done the last 8 years. I have spent a lot of time in the desert between Afghanistan and Iraq and other places. The typical American soldier is one of the filthiest mouth people you will ever meet when they are around "the guys". That being said, their patriotism and willingness to fight for their country can't be denied. I have put my life in their hands and would do so again. What Hillary has done and the American lives bullied, mocked and murdered at her hands can't be excused. Deseret News is doing what most uninformed Americans who live with their heads in the sand are doing and jumping on the mainstream bandwagon. If you are going to vote in November, vote for the candidate that is most fit to "run" the government, not the one who conjugates their verbs correctly.

  • Contrarius mid-state, TN
    Oct. 12, 2016 10:05 a.m.

    @Tiercel --

    "Hillary Clinton explicitly said ... an unborn child has no rights."

    That's not quite what she said.

    Here's the quote:

    "When or if does an unborn child have constitutional rights?" host Chuck Todd asked.

    "Under our laws, currently, that is not something that exists. The unborn person doesn't have constitutional rights. Now, that doesn't mean that we don't do everything we possibly can in the vast majority of instances to help a mother who is carrying a child and wants to make sure that child will be healthy, to have appropriate medical support.

    "It doesn't mean that you don't do everything possible to try to fulfill your obligations, but it does not include sacrificing the woman's right to make decisions, and I think that's an important distinction that, under Roe vs. Wade, we've had enshrined under our Constitution."

    And Clinton is right. A fetus does not have Constitutional rights -- because Constitutional rights depend on citizenship. And citizenship is only granted in the Constitution AT BIRTH. If you don't like it, then change the Constitution -- don't blame Hillary.

  • Tiercel Williamsport, PA
    Oct. 12, 2016 8:27 a.m.

    A correction to "Understands Math" - Hillary Clinton explicitly said on both Meet the Press", and "The View" that an unborn child has no rights. She was pressed how far that extends and does that extend right up to the day of birth. She unequivocally stated that it does extend up until the day of birth. It is a simple look-up on the internet for the transcript, the news story, the video.

    I can understand your confusion because there are probably old positions in which she said otherwise such as when she said marriage was only between a man and a woman and the numerous other flips she has made when it helps her gain power.

  • Tiercel Williamsport, PA
    Oct. 12, 2016 8:04 a.m.

    The revelations just keep coming. This is a war against religion and faith. Now leaked emails show that the very top lieutenants of the Hillary Campaign show appalling religious bigotry against Catholics and Evangelicals. But, the press, maybe even Deseret News, won't cover something that crucial.

    Whether it is this or the war against "The Little Sisters of the Poor," These people show sheer contempt for anyone that treat their religion as anything more than a social club. In fact, that is the essence of what one email stated. It goes hand-in-hand with Obama's statement when he said, "they cling to their Bibles and their guns." He suggested that because other things like jobs etc. were not going our way, we get bitter and desperately revert to stupid behavior and useless actions like turning to the scriptures.

    How do the staff at Deseret News give a de facto endorsement to this war against religion? Hillary is the one viable candidate that remains standing after their call for Trump to resign.

  • contrariuss mid-state, TN
    Oct. 12, 2016 6:48 a.m.

    @RichardB --

    ""Recently I had the opportunity to have a brief, but enlightening, personal conversation"

    Let's hear instead from Barbara Res, a woman who worked for Trump as vice-president of his organization for 18 years --

    "I think he's a supreme sexist."

    "He's terribly sexist. He's a womanizer for sure."

    "He once said that, when his business was failing in the early '90s, he blamed it on the fact that his executives did a bad job while he was off, in his words, '(having sex with) women two and three at a time' -- he said that!"

    "I learned very quickly... that you don't talk back to him anymore..... He got too famous. He started believing his own (imagination). He got way too famous and, you know, people were telling him he was great and he was buying that. He started thinking that he walked on water, he really did."

    "Now I don't think he respects anybody. I don't think there's a person alive that he respects, because he thinks he's God."

    Who do you believe -- somebody that spoke with Donald for a few minutes, or somebody who worked closely with him for years?

  • Brad James Manti, UT
    Oct. 11, 2016 9:28 p.m.

    I abhor both of these candidates. Trump is a lewd scumbag and Hillary is a criminal. Both of these fools should be imprisoned. I am also tired of Republicans getting angry with me when I say I cannot vote for Trump and with liberals who say I need to commit myself to Hillary. This is asinine. It's like a high-school popularity contest. What a joke all of this is. Evan McMullin is my choice.

  • Aerick Sandy, UT
    Oct. 11, 2016 9:12 p.m.

    A renunciation of Trump isn't an endorsement of Hillary Clinton. Due to this revelation, Trump won't win the election, but there are other worthy candidates out there. For myself, I am voting for Darrell Castle and Scott Bradley. They beat out Johnson and McMullin in my book.

    Additionally, there is another path where Clinton won't win, though unlikely. If enough states vote independent or third party, we could keep Clinton from gaining enough electoral votes. Then the decision goes to Congress where each State gets only one vote.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Oct. 11, 2016 8:37 p.m.

    If you are going to call for Trump to resign, you should also call for Hillary to resign.

  • forward thinker Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 11, 2016 8:11 p.m.

    Understands math but not partial birth abortion procedure.

    Partial birth abortion is not the safest way to care for a mother in distress. It is far safer to birth the child as quickly as possible, rather than to pause the procedure, prolonging the dangerous situation, to sever a spinal chord and suck out the baby's brain.

    Just birth the baby and give it away. The best way to save the life of the mother.

    This is why the "life of the mother" argument holds no water. (pardon the pun)

  • prelax Murray, UT
    Oct. 11, 2016 4:54 p.m.

    It's not an assault when someone brags to support his ego.

    A clear case of Hillary's actions vs. Trumps bragging. Set up by a Bush that is a cousin to our ex-President and nephew to our ex-President.

  • RichardB Murray, UT
    Oct. 11, 2016 4:08 p.m.

    Retired General Authority of the LDS church, and Gen. (Retired) Robert C. Oaks, commander of NATO Air Forces in Central Europe. wrote an opt-ed on this for the Deseret news Sept 25. I will take his word on it.

    "Recently I had the opportunity to have a brief, but enlightening, personal conversation with Donald J. Trump, the Republican candidate for president of the United States. From our conversation I was very impressed with his leadership style, patriotism and passion for our country and its welfare. However, I have subsequently been dismayed by the extensive negative comments I have seen published about Trump. None of this material jibes with my impression of the man and his suitability to serve as president of the United States of America.

  • Understands Math Lacey, WA
    Oct. 11, 2016 2:46 p.m.

    @Tiercel wrote: "You write that Hillary is the more morally conservative this year. So you actually give moral equivalency between vulgar talk and abortion on the day of birth (even when partially born) with no reason needed ???"

    That's not true, though. Hillary is on record as agreeing with bans on late-term abortion as long as there are exceptions for the health of the mother. However, the conservatives who want to push these laws through don't want them to have any exceptions.

  • elarue53078 Chandler, AZ
    Oct. 11, 2016 2:41 p.m.

    I'm seeing all these comments saying that, in spite of his horrific behavior, you have to vote for Trump in order to prevent Hillary from becoming President. Well, I've got news for you. The Democrats are telling people they have to vote for Hillary in order to prevent Trump from becoming President. This kind of thinking is what has led to the two worst Presidential candidates in history. If we don't break out of this paradigm and start building up the third parties, we'll never get the leadership we need as a country. The fact is that both the Republican and the Democratic parties have become destructive influences on our country's governance, and they should both cease to exist. Vote your conscience, and vote for a candidate who actually reflects your values, not just who you're gambling has the best chance of winning. This is why I support Jill Stein and will continue to do so right up through the election, and why I support the building up of the Green Party to rise up and break the stranglehold of the two party duopoly on this country.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Oct. 11, 2016 2:09 p.m.

    If Billy Bush got fired...

  • DPowl36 Richland, WA
    Oct. 11, 2016 1:57 p.m.

    Considering the Desert News is owned by the LDS Church, I would think that bashing one sinner over a worse sinner is not appropriate. Someone on the DN staff might consider resigning. The two most important issues in this election is the SUPREME COURT AND IMMIGRATION. Any non vote or vote for anyone other than TRUMP is a vote for HILLARY. She is for open boarders and a very liberal Court. These alone could ruin our Country.

  • Pat Salt Lake , UT
    Oct. 11, 2016 1:57 p.m.

    What about those who have already voted in early voting - I believe a half million people. How would that work if Donald Trump were somehow forced out?

  • contrariuss mid-state, TN
    Oct. 11, 2016 1:56 p.m.

    @2 bits --

    "But Democrats insisted it didn't impact Bill's ability to be President.... why the new tune now Democrats?"

    Ummm... in case you didn't notice... Bill got impeached.

    Also in case you didn't notice -- he had a consensual affair. Unlike Trump, who was caught bragging about committing multiple sexual assaults.

    Yet again -- if a president gets impeached for a consensual affair, what is the proper response to one who brags about committing multiple sexual assaults?

  • KLS Karen Austin, TX
    Oct. 11, 2016 1:38 p.m.

    I am in shock that a Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints owned publication would publish an article calling for a political candidate to step down!! This article (although in small print at the bottom states it doesn't reflect the views of the church) clearing endorses a political candidate.

    Did the church call for Bill Clinton and others political leaders to step down for their immoral behavior? Isn't there always a letter from the First Presidency read in sacrament meeting before every election stating the church does not take political sides in an election?

    The biggest prize in this election is to fill the spot of US Supreme Court Justice Scalia. Trump says he will select a Judge like Justice Scalia and Hillary says she will replace Scalia with a liberal judge. When we are so worried about moral issues, think of the impact the US Supreme Court will have on the moral issues for this country for many many years to come. These decisions will no doubt affect the church. The selection of a US Supreme Court justice is far more important than Trumps' immoral actions.

  • Tiercel Williamsport, PA
    Oct. 11, 2016 1:07 p.m.

    To TripletMomLDS - You write that Hillary is the more morally conservative this year. So you actually give moral equivalency between vulgar talk and abortion on the day of birth (even when partially born) with no reason needed ??? I think the scriptures refers to this as straining at a gnat (that might fly in our mouth) yet swallowing a camel.

    Where is our ability to reason and engage in rational thought? How do we grow up in the Gospel so mixed up that some youth think adultery and WoW violations are equivalent?

    I guess one way is when Deseret News leads the way by showing an inability to distinguish between transgressions like attacking sexual abuse victims, compromising National security, obstructing justice, partial-birth abortion, Vs. Vulgar language.

    Incredible !!!

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 11, 2016 12:49 p.m.

    It's silly for the DesNews to call for Trump to resign at this point. They know it's too late for that.

    Besides... It's not Trump's job to resign, or to keep the DesNews happy. It's our job (as voters) to resign him. By not voting for him.

    I never planned to vote for him. This audio only confirms what everybody already knew about him. If anybody didn't know this was his personality... you should be ashamed of yourself. Planning to vote for somebody you don't even know, just because he has the right letter by his name...

    This tape is no shocker (to anybody who knows his personality). And I would not be surprised to hear Bill Clinton say similar things about White House Interns in private lecherous conversations with giggling friends years ago. He knows he's had similar conversations. Bill Clinton thinks of women the exact same way Trump does. Or at least he did a decade or so ago.

    But Democrats insisted it didn't impact Bill's ability to be President.... why the new tune now Democrats?

    And Republicans who denounced Bill Clinton for leaving stains on white house interns dresses back then... but support Trump now?

  • 2 bit Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 11, 2016 12:34 p.m.

    I'm not a Trump supporter. Never have been. Even more sure he should never be President today. But I think it's comical to watch Democrats who insisted Bill Clinton's moral character had NOTHING to do with his ability to do his job (when he was being impeached for doing immoral things and then lieing in testimony to Congress about it). The same people now gasp and clutch their pearls as they faint on the couch at the revelation that Trump has low moral character. And say it should "disqualify" him from being President.

    Well... if moral character didn't impact Clinton's ability to do the job... why does similar moral flaws disqualify another from doing the job??

    Be consistent.

    I denounced Bill Clinton for his moral indiscretions when they were revealed. I denounce Trump now. Partisans are so two-faced (both sides).

  • elarue53078 Chandler, AZ
    Oct. 11, 2016 12:01 p.m.

    The truth is that neither Trump nor Hillary deserve to be President. And after his displays of incompetence, neither does Gary Johnson. There is only one candidate who even remotely deserves to be President, and that is Jill Stein. If you don't want to take the DN's renunciation of Trump as an endorsement of Hillary, then vote Jill Stein. She has none of the baggage of any of the other candidates, and she is a true defender of American families.

  • Understands Math Lacey, WA
    Oct. 11, 2016 11:30 a.m.

    @OdinsAcolyte wrote: "As such, if you back a Democrat I see you as a socialist and an enemy of the United States of America.

    en garde"

    Oh no, an internet tough guy has threatened me if I vote Democratic. What will I do?

  • TripletMomLDS Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 11, 2016 11:25 a.m.

    I'm a long time republican, active in my church, and a mom of 3. This editorial nearly echoes what I hear many of the women in my community saying: we cannot support Mr. Trump, and many of us are stunned to find that Mrs. Clinton is actually the more morally conservative choice this year. I, and several of the women I know, are quietly planning to vote for her instead. Especially after this weekend.

    Though I disagree with her *strongly* on several issues (abortion, esp.) and I fear that she may lack honesty, I see in her a flawed woman of a strong values, some of which I share: she seems like someone who has clearly received a calling to a life of service, who has labored hard to keep her family together, who has supported her husband through many challenges, who has maintained her own faith for her whole life, who tries to maintain grace and calm under pressure. It looks to me like she is a hard worker who has helped her family to find success, and that she has raised a child who is a testament to her.

    I feel like this is the type of woman my faith calls on me to be.

    It is my hope that these values will guide and serve her, and our country, well.

  • HUSV Orem, UT
    Oct. 11, 2016 11:14 a.m.

    Way to throw away 80 year! I call for Deseret News to cease its political news due to its " bias locker room trash talk opinion" hostile to the future of this great State and Country. Trump= Words, Clinton= Verified Actions. You are telling me actions do not speak and affect louder than words and I am supposed to consider you a reliable news source?

  • OdinsAcolyte Abilene, TX
    Oct. 11, 2016 10:37 a.m.

    In my opinion there is no better candidate than Trump. The second debate has proven this. His moves were masterful and artful and revealed a man highly capable of dealing with enemies of the United States and all it stands for.

    I would elect a dog before I allow a Democrat to hold a single more term as President.
    They are the enemies of the American citizens and traitors to the U.S. Constitution.
    They are the Socialist Party of America and as such I am their sworn enemy and am prepared to go to the battlefield against them.

    As such, if you back a Democrat I see you as a socialist and an enemy of the United States of America.

    en garde

  • Straitpath PROVO, UT
    Oct. 11, 2016 8:13 a.m.

    The Church spokes newspaper has just advised us on who not to vote for. Now I believe the Church spokes newspaper should tell us who to vote for because I for one am puzzled.

  • Ggh San Antonio, TX
    Oct. 11, 2016 7:31 a.m.

    I am highly disappointed in you giving a defacto endorsement of Clinton. Maybe you should read the scriptures again- yes, Trump is not perfect. But compare what he has said to what Clinton has done. I do believe that by this endorsement of Clinton - by wanting Trump to resign, The Church has started down the road to losing tax exempt status. I don't buy your statement that your editorial was not sanctioned by Church leaders.

  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 11, 2016 12:09 a.m.

    yes Trump should withdraw - right after Hillary.

    In the mean time, the DN being (legitimately) offended by Trumps words but (deplorably) ignoring Clintons actual behavior is precisely why people don't like the press (and why Trumps anti-establishment gig has a following)

  • DrSarah Chippenham, England
    Oct. 10, 2016 11:59 p.m.

    @Viva la Migra, @Richard101:
    This isn't just about what Trump said ten years ago. This is about how he responded to it now when it surfaced.

    He has expressed no sign of horror at the person he was then. No sign of genuine remorse. No apology to the woman he was talking about. No real apology to other women that he talked approvingly about sexually assaulting women.

    Instead, what we get is *dismissal* of the seriousness of his comments. An endorsement of sexual assault is, apparently, just 'locker room banter'. Well, that sure makes it all right, then. We get a classic 'notpology' ('I apologise *if* I offended anyone') and a whine about how somebody else said waaaay worse, with the implication that that's meant to make everything all right somehow. We have had zero indication that he is bothered by this for any other reason than that it might hurt his presidential chances.

    Those comments on their own can only tell us who Trump was ten years ago. But his response to us now tells us that he is still that same person now. He is still a person who *endorses sexual assault*.

  • No surprised Gilbert, AZ
    Oct. 10, 2016 11:42 p.m.

    Fortunately, I don't rely on media to form my opinion on who to vote for. I pray about the issues and look for inspiration like the brethren have suggested. This article reminds me of a lesson where Satan told 99 truths so a man/woman would believe one deception. I think I've read 99 truths from Deseret News.

  • Dr. Doug Littleton, CO
    Oct. 10, 2016 11:10 p.m.

    Shame on you, Deseret News, for falling to the continued hysteria from the left. The left is destroying our country, and if you don't endorse Trump, you default to the leftists. Say goodbye to religious liberty if Mrs. Clinton is elected! The left is indeed the most successful religion in America over the past century, and Mrs. Clinton leads that effort, as a continuation of Mr. Obama. Mr. Trump isn't perfect, and what was said was said in private more than 10 years ago. This talk is far less significant than the acts of Mrs. Clinton in destroying women and their lives. If one doesn't vote for Trump, it is in effect a vote for leftism and Mrs. Clinton.

  • RRB SLC, UT
    Oct. 10, 2016 7:45 p.m.

    Trump hurt himself and his family.

    Hillary hurt many, many people, and America.

    We are electing a President, not man or woman of the year.

  • contrariuss mid-state, TN
    Oct. 10, 2016 7:37 p.m.

    @Richard101 --

    "The key source for your opinion is a recording of a private conversation that is 10 years old. Do you have access to all private conversations, including those of Hillary? If you don't have access to all those conversations, perhaps you should withhold judgement based on just one."

    It only takes one taped confession to convict a criminal.

    If some guy was caught on tape saying "Yes, I raped that woman" -- would you urge us to "withhold judgement base on just one" tape? No, of course not.

    And that's exactly what Trump did. He essentially said "Yes, I've sexually assaulted many women -- and I get away with it because I'm famous."

    That isn't something to be ignored or swept under the rug.

  • RichardB Murray, UT
    Oct. 10, 2016 7:06 p.m.

    Will the endorsement hurt the LDS church and it's religious exemption? The IRS has gone after Churches that get involved in politics lately. In the last 80 years things have changed. Now any support, directly or indirectly can be used against their tax exemption, and no matter the disclaimer, many will see it as an "official" endorsement.

  • Richard101 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 10, 2016 6:03 p.m.

    This editorial is shameful. The key source for your opinion is a recording of a private conversation that is 10 years old. Do you have access to all private conversations, including those of Hillary? If you don't have access to all those conversations, perhaps you should withhold judgement based on just one.

  • SLars Provo, UT
    Oct. 10, 2016 4:47 p.m.

    I have read the Deseret News for a long time because it strived to be impartial. The damage has been done. You can't go back, you have joined the untrustworthy mainstream media.

  • antodav TAMPA, FL
    Oct. 10, 2016 4:30 p.m.

    Then the Deseret News needs to endorse Johnson and shock everyone, most especially Utah Mormons.

  • Unclefred Ticonderoga, NY
    Oct. 10, 2016 4:06 p.m.

    "The idea that Hillary is in any way on a higher moral plain than Donald Trump is crazy."

  • Understands Math Lacey, WA
    Oct. 10, 2016 3:54 p.m.

    "I share your disgust at Trump's comments. They are indefensible.
    But this is "locker room" talk engaged in at some point by just about every male member of the species. That doesn't make it right, but it's what it is."

    This may be the only correct time to use this phrase: "Not all men." Definitely not all men.

    Speaking as a man, I can say I have never heard any male acquaintance of mine speak about women in such a horrific fashion, inside locker rooms or outside.

  • Aurelius maximus Berryville, VA
    Oct. 10, 2016 1:36 p.m.

    Quit the race because of things he said over a decade ago?

    Hillary has done corrupt things within the last few years as a politician! That should disqualify her! Why haven't you called on her to quit?

  • Contrariuses mid-state, TN
    Oct. 10, 2016 1:20 p.m.

    @justinbl --

    "another candidate who has attacked and destroyed the lives of so many women."

    You guys keep forgetting that Bill is not a candidate in this election.

    "Have you ever looked at the stories of the women that Bill Clinton raped?"

    There is only one woman who has accused Bill of rape -- Juanita Broaddrick. And she gave sworn testimony that no such thing ever happened. Her court case was dismissed because she contradicted herself and was unbelievable.

    Again -- if we impeached Bill over a consensual affair, what is the proper response to bragging about committing sexual assault?

  • KrisOpen Taylorsville, UT
    Oct. 10, 2016 1:00 p.m.

    Another left-wing manufactured hysteria to take attention away from Hillary's open borders proposal, etc. etc.

  • wall71121 Taylorsville, UT
    Oct. 10, 2016 12:32 p.m.

    I share your disgust at Trump's comments. They are indefensible.
    But this is "locker room" talk engaged in at some point by just about every male member of the species. That doesn't make it right, but it's what it is.
    As much as I might have reservations about Trump, the election is 4 weeks away. It's WAY too late to be making substitutions. We only HAVE two choices: Trump or Clinton. Any pipe dreams about Pence stepping in, or some TRAILING third party candidate to suddenly move to the front is just that - a PIPE DREAM.
    Is the Deseret News suggesting that Hillary should be our next president? Because that would be the result of Trump stepping down, OR a significant "Dump Trump" movement.
    Like it or not, Trump is the only available solution to #NeverHillary.
    I'll be going to the polls next month, holding my nose, and selecting Trump as our next president.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 10, 2016 12:28 p.m.

    All of these former Republican devotees, newspapers, and officials do not support Trump because he is insupportable.

  • justinbl Portland, OR
    Oct. 10, 2016 12:15 p.m.

    I don't really like Trump either, but I find it ridiculous that you can publish dozens of hit pieces on one candidate and nothing about the other. If this isn't an endorsement of Hillary, then I don't know what you call it.

  • cdowis Woodstock, GA
    Oct. 10, 2016 11:58 a.m.

    What??
    And you are going to ignore everything Clinton has done? Why don't you demand that she resign ovr Bengazhi == "Who cares about four people dying?", her lies to the victims' families about the video, her lies to Congress and the American people, allowing top secret communications to be exposed, her attacks on those victims of her husband??

    WHAT ARE YOU DOING???

  • justinbl Portland, OR
    Oct. 10, 2016 11:58 a.m.

    I agree it sounds despicable and I do not believe Trump to be a moral man.

    However, what really bothers me is that you attack one candidate because of his attitude toward women, but ignore the absolutely reprehensible acts of another candidate who has attacked and destroyed the lives of so many women. Have you ever looked at the stories of the women that Bill Clinton raped? Many of them say they were more damaged by their treatment from Hilary than from Bill.

    I used to like Deseret News because I liked the spiritual articles, but I have been so fed up by your political maneuverings lately that I have decided to cancel my subscription.

  • NeifyT Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 10, 2016 11:44 a.m.

    Wow, this article garnered a lot of comments; hope to read them in a bit.

    I find it rather ironic that Deseret news would take this stance. I agree with every word of this article; I even agree with the opinion that Trump should resign his candidacy.

    However, the establishment that brought us Trump is the very establishment that Deseret News and her sister station KSL have pushed over and over. That of closed Republican votes. Having a closed system reverses the purpose of a Representative government.

    Rather than having an elected official represent the people's will within the government; such a closed system makes the the candidate a representative of a political party to the people. And Trump is the very poster boy for what the Republican party itself has become.

    In Deseret News's words: "hucksterism, misogyny, narcissism and latent despotism"

    In My words: "representative of only big business, elitism, political partisanship, fear mongering, war mongering, anti-constitutionalism, even divisional leadership."

    Every point and purpose of the Republican platform serves only the above; Republican's do not serve the people.

  • Seaker , CA
    Oct. 10, 2016 11:38 a.m.

    I wrestled with this opinion for the past few days and although I cannot endorse Trump, I can't fully agree with the opinion.

    Many faithful members of the church are converts. I have been through the Temple with members that use to be prior gang members. Prior to being a member, they have done things that would offend any ears or eyes. Like our Savior, my love out pours to them that have made this change. The Atonement gives this gift to all His children. I wonder how many EQ Pres., HPGL, Bishops, and even Stake Presidents had moments of the "Natural Man" 11 years prior in their life. If somehow, tapes surfaced of these individuals, would the local leader(s) remove them from their calling? I wonder how many of our faithful members will look back in their past because of this opinion and feel that repentance won't be available to them or that the church will shun on them if they disclose "natural man" experiences prior to baptism.

    The Atonement is available to all God's children. It is the most important gift and blessing that we can teach - no one should be afraid or ashamed to come forward no matter what they have done in their life.

  • Jer-Bear Mapleton, UT
    Oct. 10, 2016 11:33 a.m.

    I CAN'T HARDLY BELIEVE IT!!!

    My church owned newspaper publicly snubbing Mr. Trump.

    This should never happen...

    "The Brethren have told us to NOT mix religion & Politics!"

  • Ohio-LDS NE, OH
    Oct. 10, 2016 9:25 a.m.

    Thank you DN for this editorial. My family is grateful to see a news agency taking a stand for decency. Trump is pure decisiveness and will always be so. While most of his supporters have genuine concerns that must be addressed by our government, the first step is to stop digging our country into a deeper hole by pretending that Trump is anything other than a serious danger to our democracy. It's time to own up to this fact and work to unify our country under Hillary. At least with my family and congregation in Ohio, this editorial has helped mold hearts to accept the reality that Hillary's faults are not in the same ballpark as Trump's.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    Oct. 10, 2016 8:03 a.m.

    @Happypappy1958 Oct. 9, 2016 10:30 p.m.

    Once again I am sickened by what is on the tapes but Donald Trump tonight stated that he actually never done the things to women that he foolishly said on that tape.

    -----------------

    Unfortunately, from a number of court cases filed and a number of interviews I've heard, Donnie didn't just stop at talking. He actually did the things he talked about, and worse. And that is truly sickening and deplorable.

  • UtahTroutStalker draper, UT
    Oct. 10, 2016 7:32 a.m.

    Donald Trump should not resign his campaign. He won the GOP nomination fair and square.

    Moderate and Religious conservative should just understand that this is what the GOP has become.

    The "Tea Party" republicans are into name calling, nastiness, etc... They completely freaked out when we the people elected our first Black president. Gun prices doubled - no new gun regulation. The economy improved, but that just was not good enough.

    No The Donald should stay on the ticket. Hillary should win, and we should get at least 4 more years of a Clinton in the White House. Maybe then the GOP can figure out how to play along nicely with the rest of the country, stop the divisiveness, an finally reach across the aisle to get some meaningful legislation passed that our country so desperately needs.

  • MAJIC Grants Pass, OR
    Oct. 10, 2016 7:25 a.m.

    Like the critics of the controversial Orrin Porter Rockwell, the DN and supporters of this "opinion" are demonizing Trump for his behavior - not his legacy. Bombastic, yes. Objectifying, yes. Extremely sophomoric, yes. But, like the constitution framers who were described by the Lord as being "wise" - not moral - Trump has manifested that he is "wise" enough to fight the left AND the right to nominate adjudicators who will preserve "the rights and protection of all flesh," which will safeguard religious liberty. Morality management is the responsibility of divinely designed ministries - not government - as revealed in the Canon that is distributed by the Church that enables the publishing of this "opinion" banter. It would be "wise" for the DN and its readers to be less like "ites," and focus on preserving the Constitution. Only one candidate expresses this desire.

  • james d. morrison Boise, ID
    Oct. 10, 2016 6:37 a.m.

    waterperson - Nixon wasn't forced to resign because he deleted a few seconds of tape. He had his campaign break into the room of his opposition's campaign and steal from them.

  • james d. morrison Boise, ID
    Oct. 10, 2016 6:29 a.m.

    Susan Roylance, writing in Pence will just mean your vote won't count, literally. If the person you write in is not listed as a candidate qualified for write in votes, it will not be counted. You should vote for Evan McMullin.

  • David Lloyd-Jones Toronto, 00
    Oct. 10, 2016 5:37 a.m.

    My feeling about your position is Congratulations! "A light to lighten the Gentiles!" and so forth.

    My calm thought, however, is "Well, it took you long enough -- but better late than never."

    -dlj.

  • Jer-Bear Mapleton, UT
    Oct. 10, 2016 12:50 a.m.

    I disagree with you Deseret News. Trump made these remarks 11 years ago. He has apologized several times. No question he is more brash being from New York City and what not. But he is the GOP candidate. He will select Supreme Court Justices that are conservative! Clinton will NOT do the same, but the opposite.

    With all of Trump's error in speaking, as evidenced, I totally stand by him.

    Furthermore, I did not see your Opinion Editorial in the Deseret Newspaper on Friday Oct. 7th or 8th. Are you fearful of putting it in the paper itself?

    I've loved the Deserey News all my life. But I do NOT stand with you on this subject. And do think it wise that you consider staying out of the political arena. You have made an error on this subject!!!

  • Bobster Boise, ID
    Oct. 10, 2016 12:45 a.m.

    I am disappointed in this editorial and in the politicians who have leaped at this latest opportunity to withdraw support for Mr. Trump. I just watched the 2nd presidential debate. At the end each candidate was asked to say something good about their opponent. Hillary said Trump had a nice family and that reflected well of him. I was having difficulty trying to think of something Trump could say about Hillary. At first I thought, "she is a child of God," but realized Trump would never come up with that. Then it came to me, She doesn't quit." That is essentially what Trump said. She doesn't quit, even after all her reprehensible behavior. He should not quit either. It is disingenuous to suggest he should.

  • JLG Mesa, AZ
    Oct. 9, 2016 11:46 p.m.

    It is a sad day when the publication which is the faced of the Church of Jesus Christ gets involved in political quicksand of evil. Even if the leaders of the church don't personally endorse your article directly it is implied because your publication is owned and controlled by the church leadership. There is a reason why the church has and does not endorse candidates for the last 80 years. And since the Deseret News is financially supported by the LDS Church it offends me that my tithing is being used in a way that involves such reckless deeds. What will be the next step since you have crossed the line with church standards, individual leaders preaching in church their political recommendations, or personal selections using their positions as if it is the correct doctrine. You are wrong it is no wonder our church membership is shrinking and the world is developing an unfavorable opinion of us.
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  • SLars Provo, UT
    Oct. 9, 2016 11:38 p.m.

    This explains the change in moderating and choice of articles the past year. If you support Clinton, say so, don't feign being upset over words compared to actions.

  • Happypappy1958 Winter Haven, FL
    Oct. 9, 2016 10:30 p.m.

    Once again I am sickened by what is on the tapes but Donald Trump tonight stated that he actually never done the things to women that he foolishly said on that tape. I suspected that it was him in a caught up in a (great is me Mr celebrity moment)trying to make a younger guy laugh and in a very vulgar way gain envy from the younger guy. I never for a moment actually ever thought he had or would do what he told Billy Bush and I doubt if Bush took him serious either. I was in the US Army infantry and you wouldn't believe what grown men will do to try to look manly and crazier than the rest. That unfortunately is the nature of the natural man and all of us have our lowest moments in our lives that we would be extremely ashamed and look horrible in the sight of our fellow man if those moments were caught on video. I understand if your conscience cannot bring you to vote for Donald Trump but it is way too late and would be way too damaging to the GOP if he wore to step down at this late hour.

  • RRB SLC, UT
    Oct. 9, 2016 10:10 p.m.

    If you supported Bill Clinton, you have no credibility in saying you are offended by Trump. You gave that away and it is no longer yours to take back.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Oct. 9, 2016 9:38 p.m.

    I want Trump to stay in...
    because, I want Hillary Clinton to beat him...

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    Oct. 9, 2016 9:13 p.m.

    Hey lets be mature -

    "Stay impartial DNews."

    Stay impartial??!!!

    NO legitimate newspaper should "stay impartial."

    That would be ridiculous.

    There is right and there is wrong, and you're suggesting that newspapers should take a position somewhere in between the two?

    That makes NO sense.

  • lets be mature Meridian/USA, ID
    Oct. 9, 2016 8:26 p.m.

    While I agree with them, especially after this leak, I think the DNews should be careful in picking a side. The media should be impartial. But it isn't unfortunately. The mainstream media is dishonest, and Fox News can be embarrassingly obviously at times. Stay impartial DNews

  • Contrariuses mid-state, TN
    Oct. 9, 2016 7:03 p.m.

    @RG --

    "he (allegedly) actually forcibly raped women."

    No. The only woman who has accused Clinton of rape (Broaddrick) gave sworn testimony that no such thing ever happened.

    In contrast, Trump himself bragged on that tape about committing multiple forcible sexual assaults.

    THAT is a big, big difference.

  • aggiefather Fulton, MO
    Oct. 9, 2016 6:41 p.m.

    Two imperfect candidate, but only one could be charged with "high crimes and misdemeanors." I am more concerned about the democrat candidate's propensity to elicit and make public private information she has gathered through hook or crook to use against her political enemies. This is a career-long pattern with her, going back to the Rose Law Firm, Filegate, etc. This has been done to totally avoid her having to actually answer substantive questions about her record. She has no desire for anyone to mention Benghazi, Pay-for-play, classified information breeches, and her 'bimbo squad' attacks on her husband's innocent female victims. Under her, we would have a police state rivaled only by East Germany under the STASI.

  • Jonathan Leviathan Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 9, 2016 5:23 p.m.

    I agree with your assessment. But the republicans have only themselves to blame for foisting this fool on the American public. Too late to call a "do-over."
    Just a comment about your choice of the word "belie" (Trump’s banter belies a willingness to use and discard other human beings at will. That characteristic is the essence of a despot.). I think the proper word should have been "evinces," since his banter demonstrates a willingness to use and discard others. Unfortunately, this is a commonly misused word today.

  • RG Buena Vista, VA
    Oct. 9, 2016 5:23 p.m.

    @ Frozen Fractals. Not disagreeing about Trump. But Hillary is not just "annoyed with women her husband cheated on her with." First, she bullied and threatened them and tried to silence them (or at least is strongly alleged to have done so.) Not just annoyed. And second, her husband didn't just (allegedly) cheat on her with other women, he (allegedly) actually forcibly raped women. That's a huge, huge, difference.

  • [email protected] draper, UT
    Oct. 9, 2016 5:19 p.m.

    This opinion is weak and is an endorsement for HILLARY HRC. Hillary is equally as pathetic and disgusting. Where is the don't vote opinion and headline for Hillary?

    As i am one of the flock of the local religion...I am ashamed of the deseret news once again. As the political neutral opinion was read from the pulpit today...i am to say the least concerned, by the church owned news press.

    HRC is equally disgusting and in my humble opinion worse than TRUMP.

    sad state of affairs when the press and the local religion gets to this point...favoring one disgust over another, specially when the Church says it is neutral in elections and politics.

    I expect the deseret news aka the voice of the church to give HRC equal disdain in the press.

  • paulaj Blanding, UT
    Oct. 9, 2016 4:59 p.m.

    BOTH candidates should step down. we have an idiot and a criminal to choose from. This "race" has polarized the USA, caused many voters to consider voting for "the lesser of two evils," and caused some people to plan not to vote at all. We have a better population than these ideas, and should have found some good candidates out of millions of qualified good people. Hill and Trump are ridiculous examples of what our country has to offer.

  • common sense in Idaho Pocatello, id
    Oct. 9, 2016 4:35 p.m.

    Wow. After wading through these comments. Praise. Anger. Disbelief. Every emotion possible regarding the call the DN editorial board has made.

    Here's my take. Donald Trump is the worst presidential candidate we have ever had, bar none. The DN editorial board was correct in making the call for him to step down. This tape and what was said on it was the final straw for me. This idea that boys will be boys and this is what men talk about when they are alone is just plain nonsense. Honestly, the tape as the Deseret News said gives locker rooms a bad name.

    What was said in this tape from Trump is just more accumulation that shows his true character. He ADVOCATED sexual assault against a married woman. He laughed about it, he bragged about it. Vulgarity at its best.

    This was no youthful indiscretion here. Trump was 60 years old, newly married, an expectant father, father of 4 at the time.

    I could not explain a vote for Trump to my wife, daughters or granddaughters.

    Trump will never get my vote.

  • Contrariuses mid-state, TN
    Oct. 9, 2016 4:13 p.m.

    @Brent Garner --

    "Is it possible Trump has a different viewpoint now?"

    This is not just about a "viewpoint".

    That videotape records a man bragging about committing physical sexual assaults. Plural.

    "Show me a democrat willing to do that!"

    Hillary has apologized multiple times when appropriate. And she didn't try pointing fingers at other people when she did it, either.

    "Finally, he has promised to do better."

    If a man on the street was caught intimately groping and kissing women he didn't know, would you let him go as long as he promised to do better, or would you have him arrested?

    "Clinton apologizes for nothing."

    Not at all true.

    Three quick examples:

    1. the e-mail server: "I should have used two accounts. That was a mistake. I'm sorry about that. I take responsibility."

    2. the "basket of deplorables": "I was 'grossly generalistic' and that's never a good idea. I regret saying 'half' – that was wrong."

    3. authorizing the Iraq war: "I thought I had... made the best decision I could with the information I had.... But I still got it wrong."

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Oct. 9, 2016 3:24 p.m.

    Trump is easily the greatest republican since Lincoln.

  • Brent Garner Idaho Falls, ID
    Oct. 9, 2016 2:56 p.m.

    To all those denouncing Trump, consider this. First, yes, the comments were very inappropriate. Second, they are from 11 years ago. Is it possible Trump has a different viewpoint now? And, should we go back into your history and search for inappropriate comments you made and hold you accountable for them? Is that what you would we do? Third, Trump acknowledged his error, unlike Clinton and the Democrats who never admit to any error. Additionally, he stated he was wrong. Show me a democrat willing to do that! Finally, he has promised to do better. Clinton apologizes for nothing. Not for murder. Not for treason. Not for breaking the law. Not for cheating in the election--talk to Mr. Sanders about that. So, who would you rather have? Someone who admits their error, changes, and works to be better? Or would you rather have someone who thinks of herself as a Queen who never has to account for anything she does?

  • Rip Clifton, ID
    Oct. 9, 2016 2:11 p.m.

    Setting politics aside, there are literally millions of good people in this Country who support Trump over Hillary, many of them good Christians who are not Members of the LDS Church. Most of them who see this associate Deseret News with The LDS Church, and will be aware of the Church's policy of neutrality. Can we expect any of them to give The LDS church an honest consideration after this? No, Most of them will shut there minds completely to any message associated with this Church! The mission of the Church is to bring people to Christ, not to alienate them by the millions! Again I call for a retraction of this article and a public apology.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 9, 2016 1:51 p.m.

    A lot of people aren't paying attention when they say something like "oh it's just Trump saying things". He's talking about things he does. He's not just saying something like "she's really attractive" (that's common). Nor is he just saying a dirtier version of that (not appropriate but not surprising). He's not even talking about what he'd like to do to them (even less appropriate). He's talking about actually groping women and kissing them because he just thinks he can. That's a description of sexual assault. And it fits a lot of what stories are out there about him from women.

    And you think that's just as bad as Hillary being annoyed with people her husband cheated on her with?

  • Mayfair City, Ut
    Oct. 9, 2016 1:19 p.m.

    Oh decisions decisions...

    All that's left to decide is what to write in on my ballot with my little pen:

    Mitt/Pence

    Pence/Mitt

    Mitt/Condaleezza Rice

    Mitt/Colin Powell

    Pence/Powell

    Rice/Powell

    You've got to admit, any of these combinations would care a million times more about the country and its inhabitants than the two 'sorry excuses' for a Presidential candidate the Dems and GOP currently have running.

    Any of these combinations-- or other combinations of them--could come up with actual rational feasible fixes for the country's problems.

    Not to mention the fact that there is more integrity,morality and principle in any of their little fingers than in the 'two sorry choices' put together.

    Have been practicing my penmanship for a write-in because I decided long ago I will never bare any responsibility for the trainwreck that will befall this country if either the Dem or GOP win.
    The country will lose in catastrophic ways with either one.

    Never Hillary/Never Trump

  • MapleDon Springville, UT
    Oct. 9, 2016 12:34 p.m.

    Not sure the Deseret News' editors would have had the guts to render the same opinion had Trump been the Democratic Party's nominee. Further, I don't recall this paper's editors being equally upset over Bill Clinton's actions (not words) while in office. But this isn't surprising. The Democratic Party and its media minions have consistently brushed off the immoral antics of its party faithful, while pointing a finger of shame and scorn at any Republican doing the same or less.

  • xert Santa Monica, CA
    Oct. 9, 2016 12:06 p.m.

    "But Hillary's just as bad! No, worse!" Right. The nation has heard that argument and guess what? It's not working. One look at the state polling will tell you that. In future years, when you have to face your daughters and tell them that this guy was the pony you backed, I hope you all can keep from curling up in the fetal position in shame. But then, most of you will probably claim you sat out the election that year anyway. The thing you all should consider (and I'm just asking that you consider this) is the role you yourself as Americans played in bringing your party to the point where you have to defend Donald Trump. Where Donald Trump became your only option. You'll be asking yourself that a lot over the next eight years. Because make no mistake about it, my Utah Republican friend, you created this candidate. He's all yours.

  • juster provo, UT
    Oct. 9, 2016 11:58 a.m.

    #writeinmitt C'mon Utah, let's make it happen.

  • Mike in Cedar City Cedar City, Utah
    Oct. 9, 2016 11:55 a.m.

    I am glad you did this editorial. But, why did it take you so long? Trump is a moral issue and you have taken him to the woodshed, but so is the gun slaughter going on. Why do you not support reasonable efforts to make life safer for innocent people. You editorialized that nothing should be done on that issue because nothing can be done.

  • juster provo, UT
    Oct. 9, 2016 11:50 a.m.

    I'm heartened by this. The simplest lesson we've all learned over and over from the Book of Mormon is that the character and moral compass of our leaders directly influences the moral direction of the country. Donald Trump is driven by greed and the love of money - nothing else. He believes he should be able to fulfill his base desires on a whim, at any cost, because he has the money and power to do so. I've not heard a single word from his mouth that is lovely or of good report, and therefore, I cannot seek after him. He truly is the next scandal waiting to tarnish again, like Bill Clinton, the office of the President.

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    Oct. 9, 2016 11:18 a.m.

    Come on Deseret News, your neutral on partisan politics. Give me a break. Where's your great liberal columnists. Let's stop pretending.

  • Bofus Olympia, WA
    Oct. 9, 2016 10:51 a.m.

    " I for one am going to take Donald Trump at his word but I do expect more adult and mature behavior in the future."

    "This tape was 10 years old. His comments were very offensive but hopefully he has evolved."

    Gee folks, Trump was 59 when he made the comments, he is now 70. Not like he was "frat" age. Face it, this is Trump

  • jzwillows willows, ca
    Oct. 9, 2016 10:40 a.m.

    The Deseret News doesn't ask the candidate to withdraw who viciously disparaged and, according to Bill's former advisor Dick Morris, hired men to terrify them into silence to protect the Clinton's aspirations, but asked the candidate who spoke inappropriately to withdraw.

  • jzwillows willows, ca
    Oct. 9, 2016 10:15 a.m.

    The Deseret News doesn't ask the candidate to withdraw who viciously disparaged and, according to Bill's former advisor Dick Morris, hired men to terrify them into silence to protect the Clinton's aspirations, but asked the candidate who spoke inappropriately to withdraw.

  • ItrustNo1 La Grange, TN
    Oct. 9, 2016 10:01 a.m.

    I'm sorry but this eleven year old tape of Trump having a private conversation with a friend only shows that Trump, like many men and women talk about each other's stuff. Its not something anyone should do, but many of us, if not the vast, vast majority, sometime in our life speak of such things with a friend or friends. It, thank goodness, doesn't mean we can't run businesses, fix bad trade deals, control our borders, fix our economy, appoint conservative judges, and create good jobs. Before you judge this man take a hard look in the mirror and then be the first one to cast a stone. Hillary can't win on merit, so she, of all people, is throwing stones. We cannot let her win her judges, leave our borders open and continue her pay for play business with countries that wish us harm. We have every right to be upset over this tape, but take a hard look at the terrible alternative of not just Hillary, but also Billy who you will be putting in the White House. This country can't survive four years of Hillary with the debt we now have.

  • don jackson Atlanta, GA
    Oct. 9, 2016 9:41 a.m.

    The sensationalizing headlines of Trump are an easy marks to scream for resignation. It takes more effort to prove that Hillary is also unfit to be president. The PBS Frontline documentaries on Egypt, Syria, and ISIS are a good place for DN to investigate how unfit Hillary is to be president. Next, read the Wilkileaks speeches Hillary made for Wall St, then talk to the NYT reporters who have been investigating the relationship between Hillary and Goldman Sachs with 2008 financial crisis. At the very best, Hillary is a hypocrite who is completely incompetent to be president. At worst she is the same as Trump, without a hot mic to validate. The American people need to force the political parties to nominate other candidates. 90% of the American population doesn't trust the current ones.

  • lifes good wallace, CA
    Oct. 9, 2016 9:23 a.m.

    This tape was 10 years old. His comments were very offensive but hopefully he has evolved. My husband can't believe how men are shocked at what he said. He says that he has heard vulgar comments where men are together. We travel a lot and whether in a bathroom or in line at a store etc. I have heard women make comments that would make Trumps read as a fairy tale. We were in Utah on a job for 5 months. Utah is a special place that seems to be shrouded from the vulgarities of the rest of the country. Donald has made vulgar statements but you really have to weigh who will do more damage to our country. She is a globalist and her views are not in line with our constitution.

  • Edward777 eugene, OR
    Oct. 9, 2016 9:05 a.m.

    Are you guys serious? You really want Hillary to win because she will not be able to implement her policies anyway? You are aware of the US Supreme Court and the federal court system, right? If Hillary is elected we will be stuck with her far-left appointments for decades. You want religious freedom? You will get it under Trump, not Clinton. Clinton will go after the 1st and 2nd Amendments like other liberal presidents have done, through activists placed on the courts. And as for peace Dr. Helen Coldicott (one of the world's most renowned authorities on the destruction nuclear war, even a limited one, would have)has noted recently that Hillary has never seen a war she did not like. I for one have children. I could care less what Trump said. I do not want my children sacrificed for some stupid war or my civilization sacrificed if it goes full mushroom. Trump is the peace and freedom candidate, Hillary is not!

  • Happypappy1958 Winter Haven, FL
    Oct. 9, 2016 8:55 a.m.

    I believe that The Deseret News, and all of the Utah Leaders who have denounced Donald Trump should have long ago denounced Hillary Clinton and called on her to step down. Her crimes are 100x worse and more consequential than anything Donald Trump has done. Yes what he said in a private moment was disgusting and unacceptable but it was never meant to be for public ear. I for one am not going to let others determine the election by springing October surprises on me. I fought hard for a different candidate during the GOP primary but the people chose Donald Trump and I said I would stand by our nominee.

    Donald Trump has said that being out on the campaign trail has really changed him hearing mothers who lost sons stories etc. He said he is not the same man he was in 2005.

    The scriptures as I read them teaches me the gospel of Jesus Christ and he says one should be willing to forgive 7 x 70 times. Where was the Deseret News in 1992 calling on Bill Clinton to step down as many stories of sexual abuse and corruption were brought to light while he was running? I for one am going to take Donald Trump at his word but I do expect more adult and mature behavior in the future.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    Oct. 9, 2016 7:19 a.m.

    The Democrat attack machine is in full operation. Democrats cannot defend Hillary. They cannot defend her very personal attacks on the women that Bill molested. They cannot defend her lies before Congress. They cannot defend her lies about her health. They cannot defend the voter fraud uncovered in Chicago, in Nevada and in Virginia. They cannot defend Hillary nor can they defend the actions of their Party, so why do they jump when Hillary sinks to another unspeakable low in her attemp to deflect our attention from her lies and her provable actions? Their attacks on Trump show them for what they are. It is totally unbelievable that the Deseret News would call for Trump to step down without also demanding that Hillary step down. The Constitution is hanging by a tread and the Court has a vacancy. Those who have been so easily manipulated by the Clinton machine are willing to hold Hillary's hand as she stomps all over that contract. She wants the government to control our guaranteed right to keep and bear arms. The Constitution prohibits government from doing that; yet the gullible will be deflected from the central issue in this election.

  • raging_texan Arlington, TX
    Oct. 9, 2016 6:17 a.m.

    "Although she comes with extraordinary experience"

    Truly she does have extraordinary experience, no one else in the history of the USA has ever created such an efficient system of profiting from public office.

    Neither Trump nor Hillary nor Johnson nor Stein. All four have expressed desires to continue the multi-generational abuse of the Constitution. Castle 2016! The only candidate who actually understands and can articulate a Constitutional solution to the grave problems this nation faces!

  • MountOfOlives Clovis, CA
    Oct. 9, 2016 2:47 a.m.

    He'll resign right after Hillary goes to prison. :) everyone wins. And everyone exercises justice. Otherwise. Im still voting for Trump. "In my opinion", the actions from Hillary's recent and distant past far outweigh the words from Trump's recent and distant past.

    We ought to be outraged for the right reasons - before picking at mote in thy brothers eye, behold the beam in thine own eye.

    ~ III

  • rptmaestro Tooele, UT
    Oct. 9, 2016 2:31 a.m.

    Funny how Democrats are now putting on self-righteous and self-congratulatory hats at the prospect of keeping an immoral man who sexually harasses women out of the White House. Oh, wait. To my Democrat friends: Where were your voices 20 years ago? Can you really condemn Trump and support Clinton at the same time? What have you done to keep your most reckless of candidates in this country's history out of the White House? You have ample proof of Hillary's corruption, so please, don't make yourselves look like hypocrites by trying to take the high ground while Trump falls. Rather than patting yourselves on the back, thank your Republican friends, many of whom still believe in moral principles rather than the moral relativism espoused by too many in both parties, and many of whom have never wavered in denouncing this rascal or in opposing his nomination. When Trump fails to get the White House, it won't be because of Democrats. It will be because of Republicans. Some of them still understand that losing an election is far more acceptable than losing their integrity.

  • rptmaestro Tooele, UT
    Oct. 9, 2016 2:02 a.m.

    If you really want to be fair and unbiased, will you also call on Clinton to drop out. Making a stand only against one face of evil and not the other seems to tacitly justify Hillary's actions as less reprehensible. How evil must a politician become before you are willing to call on her to step down? As immoral as I've always suspected Trump to be (by his own admission, he's never repented of anything), we've had a hundred times more proof of Hillary's character--and her utter hypocrisy on the issue of sexual harassment. Are you skipping Hillary because her evil character is already so well established while Trump's may still be in doubt? Or is it because Democrats obviously don't care about horrible Hillary is as long as she lets them put their hands in the sugar bowl? Or is it because the Deseret News hopes Republicans won't share the Democrat's apathy? You know we're not in the primaries anymore, right? America lost when these two rascals won their parties' nominations. The voice of the people have already chosen wickedness, and the resounding reply is that they don't care.

  • M_Hawke Golden, CO
    Oct. 9, 2016 1:16 a.m.

    The hypocrisy is breathtaking. So where was all this indignant reaction back in the day of Bill C? This was just talk, Bill's were actions. Where was HILLARY's indignation? Where is the GOPs indignation concerning compromising our national security, deletion of emails, Benghazi, the Clinton Foundation? If our "leaders" had acted on numerous issues with integrity over the years, we would never have needed a Donald Trump today. In my opinion, his lack of integrity in that recording is far less harmful than the lack of integrity that all of government has had over the years in giving us the shaft and throwing away our country. Glass house, indeed.

    I'm not defending what he said, but I am shocked at the hypocrisy that members of the church and the DN is displaying. Is anyone giving the benefit of the doubt that he just might be a different person today than he was then? Where is the DN's call for Hillary's resignation from her crimes? From her complicit relationship with her husband's illicit relationships? I'm really disgusted.

  • rtn Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 9, 2016 1:05 a.m.

    Let he amoung you who is without sin throw the many stones from Utah!

  • conspiracygirl St George, UT
    Oct. 9, 2016 1:04 a.m.

    I get so tired of the argument that people don't like Hillary because she is a strong woman -- because Hillary is *not* a strong woman.
    She is a follower. She never leads on a policy. She waits until an issue is supported by most Democratic voters and then boldly and courageously comes forward as the champion of that cause. And when the wind blows the other way and voters change their minds -- Hillary follows. Has she *ever* stood up and stated, "This is where I stand -- even if I stand alone...?" Never.

    Now, Margaret Thatcher was a strong woman, whether or not you agree with her policies. She could wither the entire British Parliament with the strength of her conviction. She did not hesitate to stand alone on something she believed in -- even if it meant losing. She knew who she was and what she believed in -- and was unafraid to be the first out of the gate with it.

    Enough said. #JohnsonWeld2016

  • John Jackson Sandy, UT
    Oct. 9, 2016 12:49 a.m.

    I do not imagine Trump will step down. But, the same, I appreciate all the calls for him to do so. My vote currently is with Evan McMullin and will likely remain there. Why would I vote for someone I don't want just so someone else I don't want won't get elected when there is someone who I can vote for who I do like? If three candidates are in the room, and you only like one of them, vote for him. Should this mean Hillary will win, I believe Hillary the better choice than Trump, anyway.

  • Mark Terran Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 9, 2016 12:46 a.m.

    Fortunately, real Christians, who actually have faith in the Gospel of Christ, will not condemn Trump but instead will recognize his professed belief in Christ, repentance, plea to God for forgiveness, and feeling of cleansing as a result, in concert with his participation in the administration of the Bread and Wine. And yes he has testified of and described each of these things, if one carefully listens, for instance, to the unedited, non-truncated frank luntz interview of several months ago, which frequently and dishonestly has been cherry-picked and twisted to falsely suggest Trump has never felt a need to repent. True Christians also will recognize Trump's much good fruit which he indeed has brought forth meet for Repentance. Among these fruits are an admirable marriage to wife of eleven years Melania and a successful fatherhood to five, sterling children.

  • stuartmwatt canada, 00
    Oct. 9, 2016 12:25 a.m.

    The LDS church should retract this article. The Church has no business getting involved in politics and telling people who to vote for or that a candidate should drop out. Shame on Deseret News for this article. Thankfully, people can think for themselves and realise that Donald Trump is the only option available to make the changes necessary to turn America around.

  • KellyWSmith Sparks, NV
    Oct. 8, 2016 10:54 p.m.

    Any calls for Trump to resign should be attached to calls for Clinton to resign.

    "A nation is born Stoic, but dies Epicurean."- Will Rogers

    We deserve whatever happens to us as we have become the most hedonistic of countries, more Epicurean than any in history. Our stoic, Pioneer forefathers would not recognize the country they started or fought and died for.

  • NorCalCoug Shingle Springs, CA
    Oct. 8, 2016 10:52 p.m.

    "He who is without sin, let him cast the first stone."

  • Viva la Migra Denver, CO
    Oct. 8, 2016 10:52 p.m.

    Evil is a pretty strong word to use in this context. Trump was speaking the words of a natural man, who was out of touch with God. Since that time, according to his religious leaders, he has had a change of heart and has sought forgiveness and has embraced Christianity as defined by the dictates of his conscious and faith. Who are we to judge him by something that was recorded years ago, before this change of heart?

    If you want to look for evil, perhaps you should spend some time looking at the coordination between the Clinton campaign and George Soros. If there ever was an evil man upon the earth, Mr. Soros fits the bill. He has spent Millions of dollars stirring up people into contention, and causing misery throughout the world. He helped fund the sometimes violent Occupy and BLM movements which has led to police officers being killed across the country.

    Trump is definitely a flawed human being, and if his name were to be presented for a sustaining vote in a church context, it would probably be appropriate to examine his worthiness. I'm not sure our constitution would survive another 4 years of "progressive" leadership from Clinton.

  • Gildas LOGAN, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 10:51 p.m.

    I agree with those who have opined that this is all very one-sided.

    I hope that Mr Trump is sincere in his pledge (did anyone else hear it?) that he will be a better man in the future. Deride this if you will but his pledge long ago to never drink alcohol was kept with exactness all of his life.

    DT now works so hard day after day he has not time for dalliances or lewd conduct or loose talk.

    Again it is certainly true that we have had a great many immoral presidents who hid their nefarious deeds or who denied them and contrived to silence whistle blowers. Some of these we still applaud for what are thought to be redeeming acts. We all recognize this, and the many denials we are seeing now from another candidate.

    Is national security and respect for human life of no interest? Yet we hear a call from one candidate to drone to death one who reveals what it was hoped could be hidden by the deletion of tens of thousands of items of evidence, following a subpoena for that evidence. The same candidate has said: the unborn child has no constitutional rights.

  • waterperson Saint George, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 10:49 p.m.

    We still support Trump. If not Hillary will get in and we will pay the price along with our children. Hillary has so many scandals including protecting Bill Clinton after he assaulted all of those women and Hillary threatened these women for coming forward. Also Benghazi where Americans died because of Hillary. How about all those emails she "lost" by deleting them.

    Hillary lied while Americans died. Nixon deleted seconds on a tape and he had to resign, while Hillary deleted thousands of emails and is running for President. WHAT?

    Hillary should be in prison if the head of the FBI did his job instead of getting millions from the Clinton Foundation. I rest my case.

  • Bifftacular Spanish Fork, Ut
    Oct. 8, 2016 10:33 p.m.

    I agree with the editorial but why did it take an audio tape to take this kind of action? EVERYONE already knew Trump was classless, immoral, an adulterer, arrogant, obnoxious, and a braggart. Why the indignation now? And, since we are discussing evil...is it also evil and repugnant to encourage and support the killing of millions of unborn children? If so, where is the outrage against Clinton who is abortion's best friend? Selective moral outrage. Both candidates are so bad it is unbelievable it has come down to this. 350 million plus people in this country and our candidates are Clinton and Trump. If I were to just wake up from a 2 year coma, I would literally believe this was all some fantastic joke.

  • Funguy PROVO, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 10:23 p.m.

    People generally marry who they deserve, and the U.S. is soon going to have another joke of a president that it very much deserves.

    The Trump/Clinton clown show that is the 2016 U.S. election reflects perfectly the pathetic and embarrassing state of this once-great nation as it circles history's toilet bowl.

    “As democracy is perfected, the office of the President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be occupied by a downright fool and complete narcissistic moron.” - H.L. Mencken, the Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920

    Mencken's prophesy has been regularly fulfilled for years.

  • Steve C. Warren WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 10:13 p.m.

    "We are neutral on matters of partisan politics."

    "Clinton promotes social and economic policies we cannot support . . . "

    Ain't neutrality grand!

  • Strider303 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 10:10 p.m.

    May I recall from memory other presidents, candidates and high profile political figures that have behaved equally poorly.

    Grover Cleveland was father to an illegitimate child.

    Franklin Delano Roosevelt, had a mistress while president.

    John F. Kennedy's escapades are the subject of many books.

    Wilbur Mills, Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, had a mistress.

    Gary Hart, Senator from Colorado a candidate, of sorts, whose "Monkey Business" yacht photo scuttled his candidacy.

    Warren G. Harding, President had skeletons in his closet.

    Bill Clinton had allegations of rape, brushed over by his wife and others, let alone the "blue dress".

    I declined to include people in the entertainment/sports industry as the comments are limited in scope.

    Power, money and fame make some people feel they are invincible, above the law or commonly accepted good manners. While many are boiling the tar and selecting the pillow(s) for the feathers I think that the pseudo piety of many politicians and public figures is a bit much to stomach.

    My choice for president? None of the above.

  • oldgoat Midway, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 10:04 p.m.

    Agree that he should step down. HOWEVER, you should have also called for Hillary to step down. Her history of pay for play, Benghazi, destroying the women bill raped, destroying thousands of records after they were subpoenaed by congress etc etc etc is more than enough to strip her of the chance for the presidency. Evan Mcmullin is looking extremely presidential right now.

  • taybow SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 9:57 p.m.

    Donald is crude and arrogant. Hillary is uncaring, crooked, a liar and immoral. There isn't much of a choice. They both should resign. Neither will. They both have very terrible backgrounds and personalities. Hillary's might actually be worse. I like Trump's policies better than Hillary's. I believe they will be better for the country. I guess I will vote for him.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 9:55 p.m.

    The town-hall meeting Sunday evening is going to be very, very, very interesting.

    Here's a prediction: People from the audience will ask him some difficult questions and won't toss softballs at him as supporters did at his "practice session" last week. Trump will become upset, will storm off the stage and shout that the whole thing was "rigged" against him.

    Either that, or he will completely lose his cool and attack the members of the audience who dare ask difficult questions.

    Hillary probably won't have to say a word as Trump finishes destroying himself. (At least I hope he will.)

    One other possibility -- Trump will refuse to take part and will claim that it's a set up by his enemies.

    One way or another, it's going to be something worth watching. Want to bet the viewership ratings will set new records? This is "reality TV" at it's lowest.

  • Maverick West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 9:54 p.m.

    Now that DNews has found its moral compass, what are your thoughts on HRC? Does she have the moral fortitude to be POTUS?

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 9:45 p.m.

    More tapes are now emerging of Trump interviews with shock jock Howard Stern in which he even makes ugly remarks about his daughter.

    In the meantime, even Mike Pence has called for him to step aside and refused to attend the event with Paul Ryan today -- in place of DJT, who decided not to go.

    But why am I not surprised at this? I could see it coming for a long time. Trump is a textbook example of pathology.

  • maclouie Falconer, NY
    Oct. 8, 2016 9:37 p.m.

    Deseret News Editorial is a direct endorsement of Hillary Clinton. If Trump drops out per DN editorial then Hillary wins. Shame on you, Deseret News. Looks like Hillary and the US Government are not the only things that are corrupt.

  • george of the jungle goshen, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 9:36 p.m.

    President Nixon said once, if the American people haven't seen it on TV they won't believe it. I think it is the opposite to day. You should of stayed quiet, 80 years you never spoke, I wonder why now. Hmm.

  • Pragmatic Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 9:29 p.m.

    Good stand Deseret News! I trust that our nation will do well under a Presidency of Hillary Rodham Clinton. Her experience will be an asset to our democracy.

  • Fred44 Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 8, 2016 8:59 p.m.

    As many others watching the comments, I am still waiting for one of the many claims made against Hillary to be proven factual in a court of law. Because Rush or Shaun say something happened does not necessarily mean it is so. But we have tax returns and multiple video recordings of Donald Trump to prove what people are saying about him.

    Hillary may be a criminal, but if she is, she is one of the best around because nobody has been able to convict her with any of the many "crimes" she supposedly has committed. Many accusations have been made about Bill's infidelity, but again only Paula Jones has tried to take him to court, and that was settled without trial. Lawyers would call that a nuisance settlement, which is very common. She has been investigated by Jason Chaffetz for most of the last two years and nobody can prove anything criminal.

    I understand all the things that she may be....... but we have a very clear understanding of what Trump is. I would not argue that lack of quality candidates at the top of the ticket, but Trump flaws are on stage for everyone to see, Hillary's not so much.

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    Oct. 8, 2016 8:52 p.m.

    @Hutterite

    I have to agree. Donald and Hillary are not equals. Hillary is much, much worse.

  • Utopian_Lie Centerville, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 8:48 p.m.

    Trump said terrible things about women. Bill Clinton DID terrible things to women and his wife help cover them and was actually enabler. I think I'll take the terrible thinker over the terrible doers.

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    Oct. 8, 2016 8:48 p.m.

    I presume that all of us agree that JFK, Bill Clinton, and a number of other past presidents should have "stepped down" based on their well-documented "activities

    However, if you insist, please also insist that Hillary bow out as well. Then we would be left with Pence and Kaine and we saw in their debate who is the better choice.

  • David Centerville, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 8:44 p.m.

    "America’s locker rooms deserve better." That is a great line from this editorial. And certainly, if locker rooms deserve better, the presidency deserves better.

    I am concerned with those Republicans who still support Trump "because he his better than Hillary". This contest is to select our president. Neither Trump nor Hillary are worthy of the presidency and neither should be supported or voted for.

    Evan McMullin is running and is a very good choice.

    Watch for the Republican Party to hopefully drop Trump and select a new candidate that we can vote for...perhaps Mike Pence.

  • esodije ALBUQUERQUE, NM
    Oct. 8, 2016 8:35 p.m.

    I would never consider voting for a boor like Trump, except it's impossible not to consider the only viable alternative. I'd vote for an Ebola virus before I'd vote for Hillary Clinton.

  • SEC Rules Seminole, FL
    Oct. 8, 2016 8:30 p.m.

    All of this, and I'm talking from both sides, is like watching the coming attractions of very, very bad movie that will play ad nauseam for the next four years. Are you ready for this?

  • sman columbia, MS
    Oct. 8, 2016 8:28 p.m.

    What trump said was horrible. But here we are judging a person for what was said 11 to 12 years ago. I don't know if He regretted that day and asked forgiveness from the Lord. Only the Good Lord knows that. But I do know we all made mistakes in our past. rRemember he that is without sin cast the first stone. And all religions teach forgiveness and a lot of people seem to be forgetting this. I will be the first to admit Trump has a lot of issues most of it is talk. The clintons are all action. They have broken almost every rule. They sell out to the highest bidder. Both Hillary and Bill is only after the money, nothing else matters. Deals like Selling uranium mines to the Russians all the way to dismantling the Mx misleading systems this country spend billions to upgrade our defences. Not to mention the Chinese could not launch a satellite or have a accurate nuclear missile. Bill Clinton comes along and sends techs to China to show them what they were doing wrong. Trump may be crass but he won't sell out our country. We are electing a president not a pope are a apostle. M voting trump the lesser of 2 evils.

  • Rufus63 St. George, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 8:25 p.m.

    You can stand up and say Trump is not a good candidate but do not say the same about Hillary. She is equally as bad. To me this is a bad editorial because it ignores all the lies that Hillary has done. Be fair and tell the truth about all candidates. The press needs to be equal in reporting. I just think this is a sad commentary on today's press. Deseret News is only half right. Please report the other half.

  • George F Salt Lake , UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 8:23 p.m.

    If Trump resigns, Hillary Clinton wins by default. She immediately imports a half million New Democrat voters. Her actions are upheld by her friends on the Supreme Court. Congress has already showed itself powerless.

  • WACPaddingOurSchedule pocatello, ID
    Oct. 8, 2016 8:18 p.m.

    A vote for Hillary is a vote for all the foreign donors to the Clinton Foundation. They can't wait to have access to the white house.

    Please remember that as you waste time asking for Trump to resign.

  • Rick for Truth Provo, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 8:14 p.m.

    In your opinion, his words are worse than her actions, what Hillary has done to women in covering up the sexual abuse of Bill Clinton is by far worse than any words spoken 11 years ago by Trump. If you also called for her to step down then I might consider your "opinion" something to consider. But noooo, Over a thousand mishandled classified documents, over 100 million in donations from countries that abuse and even kill women, destroying the credibility of women abused and some even raped by her husban is not as bad as words spoken by Trump.

    This is nothing more than a last minute destruction attack by the democrats in an effort to keep voters from examining the failed economy, failed forgin policy, the failed health care, and her personally failing health. You are of course helping them. She will destroy freedom of religion, the 2nd ammendment and the constitution, But oh no, Trump said some bad words 11 years ago. You guys make me sick!

  • tesuji Bountiful, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 8:14 p.m.

    I don't understand why people are so anti-Clinton. She's very experienced. She is basically like all other politicians, except she's been much more in the spotlight and in the crosshairs of her opposition. Americans can't stomach an assertive woman leader, I think. She is certainly much better than Trump.

  • sglars Pleasant Hill, OH
    Oct. 8, 2016 8:12 p.m.

    The reality is that Hillary Clinton supports abortion through all nine months of pregnancy up to the moments before birth,” says AVA senior fellow Dr. Charmaine Yoest! This atrocity alone should offend members of this newspaper enough to ask her to step down! I find killing the unborn much more upsetting than anything anyone could say that is offensive! Killing our children is the worst of the worst, yet we all put blinders up and pretend it is not happening every single day!

  • Creeper51 Bountiful, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 8:05 p.m.

    All you liberals,

    Have you guys literally lost your minds? Clinton is literally just as bad as Trump.

    You'll bury your heads in the sand, but Trump said some nasty things. Hillary criminally abused, and harassed a sexual assault victim of her husband's.

    Which is worse? The words spoken, or the act committed?

  • Pat Salt Lake , UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 7:59 p.m.

    The opinion piece mentions "those in the Congress that hold the presidency in check." Congress has been very effective in enforcing subpoenas, keeping the FBI from destroying critical evidence and holding the Department of Justice in check, haven't they? Just ask Congressman Chaffetz. Hillary Clinton will be an imperial president. With her open borders, hundreds of thousands of new Democrat voters will pour into our nation and we will become a one party country. Her liberal Supreme Court will support her actions.

  • utahbug , UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 7:59 p.m.

    The article is well written and well timed (ballots are sent out this week).

    I noticed several comments that sound like direct quotes from Sean Hannity (the comments that attribute great evil to Hillary). Yes, I waste too many hours listening to Hannity, but also gather news from enough sources to know that Hannity either lies or misdirects by leaving out complete facts. It might have been well to condemn Sean Hannity in the same article.

    I hope everyone has the strength to vote his/her conscience, and does not base votes on comments from MSNBC, FoxNews, or talk show hosts (bad sources). Only a fool votes based on a party name without studying the individual or considering several sources of news. Utah will likely not make a difference in the presidential election -- now is a good time to let the major parties know how you feel about their candidates.

    Republicans: You can vote on Nov 9th. All others: On or before Nov 8th.

  • Utah Girl Chronicles Eagle Mountain, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 7:58 p.m.

    A man who owned a series of beauty pageants and a scam university could never be a capable leader of the free world. Why it took y'all so long to realize this should be the should be the subject of your next editorial.

  • Sanefan Wellsville, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 7:57 p.m.

    For those who want to call out the DesNews and Trump while supporting Hillary, we have a saying back home, "It's the pot calling the kettle black." Trump is a despicable;e human being and so is Hillary. It really goes to show what we have become as a country and where we are headed. It really doesn't matter which of them wins, we lose.

  • WBMom Springville, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 7:47 p.m.

    I do not condone Trump's words. He was crude and unmanly speaking of women that way. But please be fair and balanced and ask Hillary to also step down. Her actions are at least as offensive as Trump's words. She has been dishonest on so many levels. 30,000+ emails destroyed by BleachBit? What IS she hiding??Truth is not part of her life or belief system. She is equally unqualified. Her actions caused the deaths of four American's in Benghazi. She should step down as well. As was exposed this weekend concerning her, we do not know which Hillary Clinton we are listening to....the public one or the private one. At least Trump's words did not cause the death of innocents.

  • SLars Provo, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 7:38 p.m.

    American women bought 80 million copies of 50 shades of Grey.

  • Instereo Eureka, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 7:37 p.m.

    Thank you Desert News for stating the obvious except about Hillary Clinton. I will vote for her. I'm tired of the past 25 years of partisan politics where no one on the opposing side is treated with respect. It always seems that lies are made up, spread, restated, believed, and passed on again without any knowledge of what ha really happened. When I hear all the people defecting from Trump and yet just a week ago (let alone months ago) defend him as a moral man, how can I trust their opinion about Hillary with only their word. The reality of our politics for the past 25 years is that we have had a clash of not only cultures but race and sexism that we've had to face within our selves and we've refused to do it instead we've blamed our President, or candidates for president who represent what we fear and can't tolerate. I believe Hillary's platform will make our country better and we can truly say we are a nation for "We the people." The founding fathers may not have envisioned our day but we are better as nation when freedom and liberty is for all instead of a privileged few and this truly shows their genius.

  • GwenRothberg Noblesville, IN
    Oct. 8, 2016 7:36 p.m.

    Please take a good hard look at Pence - his history is stunningly corrupt. Vouchers to evangelical religious education, pay for play, ethical scandals in his super-majority state house, stripping lawfully elected state superintendent of education of her powers. He's given tax breaks to Carrier who shipped Hoosier jobs to Mexico and sponsored multiple other fly-by-night charter schools, shyster corporations and given grant money to cronies. It's endless. The single most disturbing thing about Pence is that he is a 7 Mountains Dominionist, the source of all of his anti-refugee, anti-equal protection under the law executive decisions in Indiana. This law he signed to coerce women to pay for funerals for miscarriages was the last straw. He knew he was toast and jumped ship to align with Trump and has been lying for him and covering his tracks since he arrived on the scene. He's wasted untold millions of tax payer dollars on rule making that is consistently overturned in our conservative courts. He's a disaster with true disdain for Latter-Day Saints. He considers Mormons a cult that requires eradication from public life, and that's a direct quote.

  • Tiercel Williamsport, PA
    Oct. 8, 2016 7:18 p.m.

    Really ??? I missed the call for the resignation of Bill Clinton, an accused rapist and a confessed adulterer with a young employee he exercised power over. You call for the resignation of someone that bragged about alleged misbehaviour but ignore someone that was caught engaging in misbehaviour.

    It is alarming that you call on one party to pull out of the race during voting? Yet, you ignore that 5 top aides of Hillary negotiated for criminal immunity for fear of prosecution for their assigned roles. Hillary is the first candidate ever to have an aide get criminal immunity.

    When the new liberal Supreme court strips the Church and the nation on religious liberty you can seek the forgiveness you deny to Trump for your role in our loss of liberty.

    Could this have been more contradictory? Could it have been more poorly timed? Could it have been less logical and more one-sided? Maybe it is time for the Church to fire the author of this editorial or examine whether the church should be involved in political news at all.

  • StevePhilly Philadelphia, PA
    Oct. 8, 2016 7:08 p.m.

    Trump should never be president. Hillary Clinton is far from my first choice. But the party structure of our political system has given us this choice, so one of them will become our next president. The question we should all be asking ourselves is this: What do we do to make sure this doesn't happen again? If our congressmen and governors, etc. can keep things together, we'll get another chance in four years to make another choice. Are we going to let the political parties do it to us again? Or can we put enough pressure on the parties and party leadership to reform themselves and actually work for the good of the country rather than their own personal interests?

  • tesuji Bountiful, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 6:49 p.m.

    Trump is unacceptable. What I don't understand is that people are just now realizing it. We basically knew this is how Trump was all along.

  • Red Corvette St. George, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 6:49 p.m.

    Blame Mitt for not having the fortitude to run again.

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 6:35 p.m.

    Of course, but then Pres. Bill Clinton should have resigned also.

  • TexasRed Leander, TX
    Oct. 8, 2016 6:33 p.m.

    Trump should man up and step down. Yes, his reputation was marred long before this video/audio came out, but this proves Trump's character in HIS words not just someone else in the room or an alleged victim. He did this all by himself.

    What's more troubling is his immature verse of, "well, Bill said worse on the golf course." You're grown, so own!

    Thank you, Deseret News, for taking this stand against Trump's behavior.

  • Johnston Farmington, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 6:26 p.m.

    "Courageous"? Thank you D'News for this well written opinion. But referring to Utah's Republican leadership as "courageous" for now joining the cry of many in the GOP for Trump to step down is a mischaracterization. It might have shown some courage had Senator Hatch, Congressman Chaffitz and Govenor Herbert rebuked Trump months ago when the behavior and lack of moral bearing properly decried in this opinion piece were abundantly evident. They went along with this and strict allegiance to party politics far too long to be heralded "courageous." They now own this but what could show some personal courageous on their part is for them to now step down along with Mr. Trump.

  • libertarian Cedar City, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 6:14 p.m.

    So you think we should vote for the communist who is determined to destroy our liberties?

  • Onerioi Chico, CA
    Oct. 8, 2016 6:06 p.m.

    OK. Given that my last comment will likely be moderated out of existence, I'll go the civil route. I'm still scratching my head over why the GOP and its supporter could not get behind the only true conservative in the race, Rand Paul. I would have voted for him over either Clinton or Trump. Rand really does stand up for our civil liberties in Congress and would have been, and still would be, an awesome president.

  • RRB SLC, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 6:05 p.m.

    mo·ral·i·ty

    noun: morality

    •principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior.

    •a particular system of values and principles of conduct, especially one held by a specified person or society.

    •the extent to which an action is right or wrong.
    "behind all the arguments lies the issue of the morality of the possession of nuclear weapons"

    Who is worse, Trump or the Clintons? Perspective America.

  • The Rock Federal Way, WA
    Oct. 8, 2016 6:03 p.m.

    I might take the DN editorials a bit more seriously if they also called upon Hillary to resign as well. Any objective side by side comparison of the two of them reveals that Hillary is a worse person than Trump, and that is saying something.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 5:55 p.m.

    Nice call, but I have to ask...where have you been?
    Trump has exhibited deplorable qualities for decades. His entire campaign has been one big insult.
    He is the creation of every hateful column inch, and talking head on the radio. And now is the time to speak out against him?
    By the way, more has came out about him today, from the Stern show. Even though it's not some sort of democratic media conspiracy. It's been public for years.
    Hillary and trump are not equals. Trump is exponentially a more deplorable person. I hope she puts Obama on the supreme court. We need a sharp liberal to shape policy for decades to come.

  • cougar engineer Alpine, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 5:54 p.m.

    The TRUMP signs are still up in the front yard and I am still whole heartedly in favor of the man. Yes, the CNN recovered interview from 11 years ago is a little revolting. Why is anyone particularl;y surprised. Trump has always been lewd and rude in the past, BUT--this is not about picking a sunday school teacher, or a boy scout leader. The last president worthy of teaching sunday school was Carter, and what a disaster that was! Trump said some nasty things which no one would approve of, and should have known better, but it certainly does not disqualify him as a good president. He just talked dirty-he did not commit the horrible acts of many of our previous presidents. He is lousy as a politician, but will still make a good chief executive of the country. I am a totally disgusted by the holier than thou attitude of the politicians and media members and their comments. I am in favor of showing some guts, and focus on keeping the proven cheat and liar out of the white house. An HRC victory puts some really bad actors in the white house.

  • Florida-Cougar Melbourne, FL
    Oct. 8, 2016 5:51 p.m.

    Thank you, Deseret News, for eloquently giving voice to what so many of us feel! Can you please identify the individual on your editorial board who actually wrote this piece? Thank you again.

  • Californian#[email protected] San Francisco, CA
    Oct. 8, 2016 5:41 p.m.

    Ralph Oct. 8, 2016 12:35 p.m.:

    Did you READ the editorial? It isn't all about the p-word as you suggest, but the sum total of what Trump has said and done for months. He has disrespected and derided Muslims, Mexicans, women, media people (granted, many of them deserve it), Mormon missionaries, the disabled, the obese, veterans with PTSD, war heroes, their families, and former POWs who sacrificed while he nursed his heel spurs. He's asked why we can't make preemptive nuclear strikes.

    The DN says, "…although it speaks volumes about sexual morality, it goes to the heart of all ethical behavior... belies a willingness to use and discard other human beings at will. That is the essence of a despot."

    The DN is saying it's about respect for people. Read it again.

    And everyone – vote for the Alternative candidate of your choice. Ask yourself honestly, which of them could be as bad as Trump or Clinton?

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 5:30 p.m.

    Where was the call for Bill Clinton, John Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson, Martin Luther King, Jesse Jackson, and all the others that actually did what Trump claimed he tried to do (and failed), to resign? Simply because of a bad example in a video from several years back and now he should quit? The Deseret News had to know these others were doing the same thing. Has suddenly a new morality taken over when the perpetrator isn't an established politician? Just so you know, we have had some real scoundrels in the White House before so it isn't like everyone that lived there was a sunday school teacher except Donald Trump....

    What the actual voters want is what will happen, anyway, and Utah's votes won't mean anything in the national scale of electoral votes. Just wait and see.

  • voiceofreason1234 SANDY, TX
    Oct. 8, 2016 5:28 p.m.

    This Editorial does not contain the name of the Editor of Deseret News who is Paul Edwards.
    [email protected]

    So, the Deseret News comes out saying it is usually politially neutral but it must come out and make this statement. WOAH!

    Reality Check:

    Hillary Clinton has betrayed her country in many ways in addition to harrasing her husban Bill's rape victims, also she defended a rapist in trial and ridiculed the 12 yr old victim.

    What world do we live in where such evil is given a pass and those trying to get out and improve the situation of the country are crucified!?

    Trump is Not a Perfect Person. He who is without sin let him cast the first stone. Putting one self out there to run for President is a brutal course. Especially when one is republican.

    Buck Up Deseret News! Turn off CNN and the other Lying Main Stream Media that slants the truth and bashes Trump at every given chance.

    I predict Trump Will Win and You will regret the stance you took against him. He will turn this ship around and bring jobs back to our country. You are sequestered in the wasatch front that you do not see the dire situation we are in.

  • Tomboy Canada, 00
    Oct. 8, 2016 5:26 p.m.

    The Deseret news has disgraced itself. Hillary Clinton is a traitor to her country. An elitist of the worst kind. What her and Bill done in Haiti after the earthquake is truly in comparison with the Gadianton robbers of Book of Mormon inf-amity.Talk about grinding the faces of the poor into the ground. What Trump said in a locker room many years ago is typical of the verbal diarrhea spread around in men's locker rooms of the time. I as a Temple worker and high priest who years ago was involved in the worst of the worst trash talk. I have obviously since repented but even at that time people commented that I was a good hearted person and did not need to change. Of course after being taught I knew better. What I am getting at is that people can say and do wrong things in private but still be caring compassionate people.The people that work for Trump have a different view of him than what the media projects. He that is without sin cast the first stone.

  • TrueToTheFaithLDS Moorpark, CA
    Oct. 8, 2016 5:22 p.m.

    The constitution is hanging by a thread. Time for us to #StandUpWithEvan as he will protect the constitution and the country. He has the knowledge to deal with the Middle East. Voting for Trump to stop Hillary is a wasted vote. Vote with a clear conscience by voting for Evan McMullin and his VP Mindy Finn. Utah can make history with this vote!

  • xert Santa Monica, CA
    Oct. 8, 2016 5:20 p.m.

    I so appreciate the maturity and common sense this editorial (finally) expresses. Though National news pundits are calling the State of Utah Ground Zero for the beginnings of a referendum on Trumps unacceptable view of appropriate behavior, I do not believe that this will be enough to disrupt the Tea Party mentality of the majority in my home state. So be it. Fortunately we have the most experienced and hardworking candidate to ever accept a nomination in the woman who will become our next President. She will appoint a Supreme Court that will enforce the laws of the land and promote the progressive ideas that the more grown up of our nation have prayed for and that have been stunted by an obstructionist Congress and the deep pockets protected by Citizens United. She is the exact person we need to continue the winning agenda of our beloved and popular (55% approval rating...) President Obama, who has succeeded in the face of bigotry, ignorance and the divided politics the late Republican Party cherished before Mr. Trump destroyed it with a final nail in its self constructed coffin.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 5:18 p.m.

    @LisA "actually admitted to grabbing a woman's genitals because he is famous. Kissing a woman without asking because he is famous. That is sexual assault. Forget everything else, this is about a man admitting to sexual assault and is running for President."

    Exactly right, and most of our social problems stem from the mistreatment of women! Maybe Trump's candidacy can help us understand this.

    This guy cannot be president.

  • BJMoose Syracuse, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 5:17 p.m.

    To all you screechers crying about Hillary's grevious crimes, Hillary's illegal activities, Hillary's enabling others to commit illegal acts ad nauseum PLEASE list everything illegal that she has been convicted of in a court of law. Not the right wing court of opinion but an actual court of law. You have nothing!

  • americagreat Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 5:16 p.m.

    I am a woman, Hispanic and Mormon, I ask Deseret News if you are asking Trump to step down from his Candidacy then they should ask Clinton to resign. I have not read that you have done that with her husband while he was in office. They are a career criminals, people have died around them, she is for open borders, she is a hypocrite. I am sorry even though he said these bad words, I can not even have the though of having Hillary as our president, she is for abortion, not religion freedom or any religion. She is corrupt. I will vote for Trump

  • Shaun Sandy, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 5:11 p.m.

    Republicans certainly knew what they were getting when they endorsed Trump? Did these comments by Trump honestly catch anyone off guard?

    The sad thing about all this is America is backing two people, who are narcissistic and apologizing for their behavoir, actions and lack of integrity.

  • annewandering oakley, idaho
    Oct. 8, 2016 5:10 p.m.

    This article made me tear up. What trump has done to this country, with many of our citizens excusing his behavior has made my stomach turn. He stands for everything that our church has stood against. Morality, ethics, and human decency. He has brought out and made acceptable to many, hatred of anyone different than themselves in particular different by race, ethnicity, religion, disability, income, physical beauty and gender issues. We do not have to agree with each other but we have to learn to love each other. To persuade, teach and to love. How can we justify the hatred he is teaching by words and even worse by example? It is so much against Gospel Principles and it does not matter if you are liberal or conservative. Christ's values are not trump's values and trump's values should not be ours.

  • Sal Provo, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 5:05 p.m.

    Can't we have a national call to write in Mike Pence for President? Wouldn't decent Republicans and Democrats alike abandon two immoral people candidates for this better choice? Romney, Governor Herbert, the RNC, please put out a call for all voters to write in Mike Pence for President!

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Oct. 8, 2016 4:49 p.m.

    I don'the think Trump ever intended to win the election. He is enjoying shocking/offending the nation and secretly aiding Hillary into the White House in order to damage the nation. There is a lot of smoke there. NWO.

  • Fred44 Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 8, 2016 4:44 p.m.

    I agree with the editorial, but why now? Were his bankruptcies, not paying taxes, insulting Muslims, Mexicans, disabled, POW's from Vietnam, and any and every other group of people who didn't worship at the Trump alter not enough to have spoken against him earlier? What about his bragging about his affairs, his three wives the second two being affairs while he was married to wife one and wife two? The comments on this videotape were reprehensible and indefensible, but were not some of the previous comments as well?

    The republicans have always claimed the higher moral ground, but in this election, they have sold their souls to the devil. The sad thing is this is far from over. I have said earlier, and I fully expect these tapes and tax returns and other information regarding Mr. Trump's checkered past will continue to roll out right up until election day. The democrats and Hillary Clinton are not clean and perfect, but their problems are not relevant at this point. Mr. Trump is a mess and the republicans have dug themselves a hole by selecting him as their candidate. They deserve whatever they get out of this deal.

  • kenhbradshaw Fontana, CA
    Oct. 8, 2016 4:38 p.m.

    Trump needs to stay. If he is, as you say, flawed, then Clinton will win the presidency. It is foolish to think that Pence could take his place. Voters in the nation would reject the unfairness of a selection outside of the convention. Pence is Trump's pick. They cannot be separated - except in some pretend scenario.

    Other presidents have had mean mouths - and done good for the nation. Other presidents have had flawed morals - and done good for the nations. No president have secretly sold influence for personal gain, as Clinton has. No president has turned their back on Israel, except Obama - and Clinton was his Secretary of State.

    Trump is the one with the conservative platform.

    This is a Democrat full-court press. It will be worse. And all the time we spend condemning Trump, Clinton will be continuing her secret dealings, lies, and manipulations.

    And the Deseret News is falling for it. I am a little disgusted.

  • gameboy FPO, AE
    Oct. 8, 2016 4:37 p.m.

    I fully agree that Trump is unsupportable for the reasons mentioned. Actually, he was unsupportable before this latest incident because there was no rational way to determine what he intended to do if he were elected.

    In that vein Hillary is unsupportable also. Her corruption is boundless and infects all around her. Hillary has no respect for life itself. Her unthinking enthusiasm for deploying American military might at every little problem on the globe has maimed, killed, and displaced hundreds of thousand of people -- and created a refugee crisis of massive proportions. The images of toddlers washing up on beaches goes back to Hillary's belief that she has the right to depose foreign leaders and invade sovereign nations.

    When I say that HIllary's corruption infects all around her I include the public's attitudes about senseless wars. How many people are outraged by Trump's debauchery but regard Hillary's death machine as normal and acceptable..?

  • RG Buena Vista, VA
    Oct. 8, 2016 4:31 p.m.

    @ frozen fractals: I agree that there is a difference between being wrong and lying. For example, Bush was wrong about Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction, and was not a liar as his opponents claimed him to be. (For that matter, Hillary also believed that Iraq had such weapons, and said so quite strongly, based on her own examination of the evidence.) But in this case—the Benghazi case—I totally believe that Hillary knew the truth and lied about it.

    @ LisA: I won’t disagree about seriousness of sexual assault admitted by Trump. And as I commented above, I agree with this DN editorial asking him to end his campaign. But what about Hillary? No, I am not accusing her of sexual assault. But there are incredibly credible accounts of such committed by Bill (and while they may not be proven, Bill’s credibility was ruined by the Monica case), and Hillary worked hard to defend Bill, and to threaten and bully Bill’s victims. So I’d call her an accessory to assault.

  • Proud Conservative Hyrum, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 4:31 p.m.

    While it's commendable that you call out Trump on his personal failings and immoral personality, you're too late, Deseret News. You should have done this during the primary - it's too late now to replace Trump on the Republican ticket. I hope that the DN will also;denounce Hillary Clinton with the same amount of fervor, due to the evidence showing her political corruption during her lifetime in politics, especially when she was Sec. of State. Because of her email scandal, we know that her time in office was driven by corruption, greed, and a desire to enrich herself, her friends,and the Clinton Foundation during her stint as Sec., no matter what harm it might have brought to the country and its citizens. We have the victims in Benghazi who brutally killed during this time. Emails show she put friends in positions of power, in exchange for their donations to the Clinton Foundation, and provided favors to foreigners who also were donors to the Foundation. That intimate relationship with her family's Foundation and her office of Sec. of State, should have been enough to remove her from that office. More evidence of her corruption just keeps coming to light.

  • Go Big Blue!!! Bountiful, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 4:29 p.m.

    Bravo.

    Never Ever Trump!!!

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 4:25 p.m.

    Trump is the cumulative affect of two decades of AM radio's hate and the fake news network's sole existence to try to script the message. Not of truth or reality but to lie, cheat and take away the truth.
    The right wing deserves Trump.
    If they cared about truth then perhaps a much more capable candidate would be leading the polls. But they don't care about truth and their followers just want the message to give them confirmation bias.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 4:15 p.m.

    Trump is a jerk, but his opponent is worse, totally untruthful and willing to do anything for personal profit, even sacrificing our national security.

    If moral behavior and speech are the primary qualification for the Presidency, then how can we ignore Hillary's being in charge of squashing "bimbo eruptions" and covering for her husband's admitted sexual misconduct with Monica Lewinski and Jennifer Flowers, and the alleged assaults on Kathleen Willey and Juanita Broderick? All of these went far beyond "locker room language".

    This is not an election for Pope, a LDS high office, or Sunday School Teacher, but someone to run our country.

    Vote for the Jerk! It's important that the crook be stopped!

  • mikey83835 Hayden, ID
    Oct. 8, 2016 4:11 p.m.

    Trump is the last chance to restore the Constitutional Republic without force, if reptillary is elected she WILL turn the country into a 3rd world garbage dump, with a radical leftist dictatorship, Trump is not without warts, but comparatively petty issues cannot be used to derail Trump's efforts,

    There is no one of value on the republlicrud side to step in, the pathetic gang of liars, thieves, cowards, empty suits, neo-cons, and RINOs has been vanquished during the primaries,

    Please re-consider your position,

    Mike

  • kla OREM, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 4:10 p.m.

    I agree that he should resign his candidacy. But Hillary, who has done far worse things than Trump, should first. And you should say so. In regards to attitude towards women, Bill hasn't gotten caught saying something like Trump did, but come on! You think he hasn't? Really? Bill has been accused of rape. Hillary has never expressed outrage over his womanizing ways much less dump him like most of us would. The unfortunate women in their history were further victimized by Hillary when Bill was done with them. What Trump said is sickening, but doesn't compare with the vile things Hill and Bill have done.

  • conspiracygirl FPO, AE
    Oct. 8, 2016 4:07 p.m.

    Fortunately there is a decent, honest to a fault, and far more qualified candidate to vote for. You are NOT stuck with Trump or Hillary.
    Gary Johnson will be on the ballot in all 50 states. That means he can win outright if all the people who think they are *stuck* with the most reprehensible candidates in our lifetimes will *un-stick* themselves, stop worrying about what other people are going to do, and vote for Johnson.

  • SLars Provo, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 4:01 p.m.

    Does the Deseret news believe that what Hillary has done moral?

  • Beowulf Portland, OR
    Oct. 8, 2016 3:55 p.m.

    Thank you Deseret News for taking a stand.

    Mr. Trump, quit now and do what's right for America. I will vote for ANY other Republican except you.

  • steve24/7 Sandy, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 3:43 p.m.

    Then let's get rid of Hillary too. She shouldn't be allowed to run for president. Her record shows she does not support women's rights; she only cares about her own political career, money, and power. Instead of supporting women's rights during Bill's presidency and when she was governor she attacked the women who spoke up and tried to silence them through intimidation and by attacking their reputations.

    I think it's incredible that people are crying for Trump to withdraw over this incident from 11 years ago yet everyone is not also calling for Hillary to withdraw after the whitewashing of her email crimes by the FBI, not to mention a number of other issues with her conduct over the years. To read more on this look up "FBI Agents Are Ready To Revolt Over Cozy Clinton Probe" in the New York Post.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    Oct. 8, 2016 3:43 p.m.

    Did the Deseret News call for FDR to remove his name from the ballot? How about JFK? LBJ? How about Bill Clinton? Has this newspaper done all that can to present all of the facts that Americans need before they vote? Has it shown Hilliary's statements to Congress and Mr. Comey's findings about those statements? Has it published the statements of all the women who told us that Hillary tried to shut them up when they reported being sexually abused by Bill? Why such a double standard? Why would the Deseret News call for Trump to step down without also calling for Clinton to step down?

  • Amanda Fawn Ogden, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 3:36 p.m.

    Thank you for this article and for standing up for morals where so many don't. I would love to see a front page story on Gary Johnson. He has unfortunately received too little attention in the media and he deserves more awareness because in my opinion, he is the only candidate worth voting for. If more people realized he was an option he would rise in the polls so fast! Thank you in advance for giving him fair and equal coverage.

  • Basketballgirl75 Provo, , UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 3:25 p.m.

    Thank you Deseret News! Agreed!

  • Sylvia33 Hyrum, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 3:19 p.m.

    Our country is in terrible trouble. If Hillary wins we will have a liberal supreme court for the rest of our lives. I feel like I most vote Republican to support righteousness. Hillary and her support of her husband and his lewdness and corruption, her own corruptions is just as bad if not worse than Trump! Is there a way when the ratings for both candidates are so low, that we could recall the election?

  • Clinton King (Ephraim) Ephraim, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 3:17 p.m.

    Beautiful editorial.

  • Creeper51 Bountiful, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 3:16 p.m.

    No, Trump needs to be President, so all you suckers understand how bad the political elite are jerking you around. Your collars are stuck tight, wake up! The Clinton's are a family that feel entitled to the high political offices of this nation. Remind them they are not, and that they have no business being in politics.

    Hillary had been caught committing fraud twice, She is utterly vindictive, and harassed a former lover of her terrible husband. Plus her health really does need to be a concern for everybody. It is high time Americans stopped voting for geriatrics.

    Trump isn't going to be able to do anything as a president, even the republican congress wouldn't let him do anything. Hillary is a snake.

  • Billy Bob Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 3:12 p.m.

    It is unbelievable how much the GOP has messed things up this election cycle. Both the leaders of the "establishment" and the anti establishment people in the party are to blame for Trump's nomination. The establishment candidates for years, even decades, have been distancing themselves from the base. This had lead to frustration, and understandably so. Trump comes in and presents himself as the opposite of the establishment. The frustrated people in the party jump on his bandwagon. Meanwhile, there was an absurd amount of GOP candidates, splitting the anti Trump vote in the primaries and giving Trump the nomination despite most Republicans not wanting him.

    So, long story short, in a year where the democrat candidate would easily be beat by any even remotely okay GOP candidate, Trump gets the nomination.

    I won't vote for Hillary, but I can't vote for Trump. He is a vile, horrible human being. So McMullin will get my vote. He may have literally 0% chance of winning. But at least I can vote for him and not feel dirty afterward.

  • prelax Murray, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 3:12 p.m.

    Meanwhile the FBI is missing two boxes of emails of Hillary Clinton, and possible evidence tampering.

    Call for both or neither to step down.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 3:12 p.m.

    Trump's supporters, that his "hard core" are not going to ask him to resign his candidacy. The Deseret News needs to understand why. They are going to stick with Trump because so many of them are desperate. The "recovery" has not included them. So they are very very angry. And with good reason. I know a number of them personally.

    You turned hard against Trump due to his gross sexual immorality. That's certainly enough reason. But you're mostly oblivious to the processes which have produced the political present. Trump's supporters have turned against the GOP establishment (including you) as much as they have turned against Hillary Clinton.

    I wish Sanders was the Democratic candidate, but you were really cold to him, so while I agree with you on this point, I am not a happy accomplice.

  • Red Corvette St. George, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 3:11 p.m.

    But he apologized didn't he? I thought the church preached forgiveness.

  • jeanie orem, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 3:11 p.m.

    I wish we had a few hot mikes on Hillary when it comes to obeying the laws of the country she wishes to lead. I think they both should resign. Neither display character.

  • BU52 Provo, ut
    Oct. 8, 2016 2:58 p.m.

    So the old unbiased press can find a 20 year old video of Mr. Trump when he was a democrat but they can't report on any of the hillary escapades that should have her in prison. The Donald might have talked about it but Bill did it and hillary helped him with the cover-up.

  • RichardB Murray, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 2:53 p.m.

    Editors stirring the pot again. Did the Deseret News call for Bill Clinton to resign?

  • LisA Draper, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 2:50 p.m.

    I get so angry when the first thing many people say is "yes, but Hillary is worse" This is not about her, it is about a man who did not just say lewd words, but actually admitted to grabbing a woman's genitals because he is famous. Kissing a woman without asking because he is famous. That is sexual assault. Forget everything else, this is about a man admitting to sexual assault and is running for President.

  • Daedalus, Stephen ARVADA, CO
    Oct. 8, 2016 2:50 p.m.

    Okay, well and good, and better late than never.

    But DN will need to acknowledge their passive role in not pushing back harder when Trump was starting to rise on a nationalistic bubble of bigotry and misogyny. Yes, DN is correct today...Trump's casual objectification of fellow human beings is a sign of a despot. But plenty of folks made that observation within the first month of his joining the GOP primary, and have kept hammering on that since.

    His rise was made possible by a critical pass of supporters who found strength and solace in the sort of inflammatory and deplorable rhetoric that was captured on the hot-mic. And that critical mass was only possible when news organizations and editorial columns watched from the side-lines.

    Had we hit a significant recession or act of terrorism before Trump's bubble burst yesterday, it is possible that this fetid bubble would be enough to elect a despot president. We can't afford to allow it to get that far ever again. DN shares that blame with plenty of other media outlets, but this one editorial is not enough.

  • TetonKid Freedom, WY
    Oct. 8, 2016 2:45 p.m.

    If you call Trump to resign based on his unethical behavior, and intolerable character, would you not implore Hillary to do likewise based on the same logic? Does her malfeasance deserve equal attention and equal repercussions?

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Oct. 8, 2016 2:33 p.m.

    I think there will be a lot more newspapers joining the Deseret News in asking Donald Trump to step aside. My guess is that people will quit hosting his events next. People everywhere should turn away from Trump. That's all there is left to do at this point.

  • Ryan J Bozeman, MT
    Oct. 8, 2016 2:24 p.m.

    Thanks for this editorial. I hope it makes Utahns realize they have more options than the Republican party.

  • Florida2Moscow Clermont, FL
    Oct. 8, 2016 2:24 p.m.

    I agree with this article but agree with the warning that this paper and our nation need to be morally consistent in rejecting Hillary as well our else this editorial will amount to empty words. Unlike Trump, she didn't always speak her mind and gets away with not being accountable in her crimes and in her ideas that are ultimately anti family. Unlike Trump, she's a far more skilled politician and has fooled many people on both sides whose moral compass drastically separates them from her. Expect tyranny if you do not speak against bad character and policies in full. I only see one candidate with moral policies and character we as Americans actually want, and would be justified in supporting: Evan McMullin.

  • PHJN25 Springville, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 2:23 p.m.

    Exceptional editorial analysis on the part of the Deseret News staff. Thank you for speaking up and speaking out about Donald Trump's candidacy.

    Hillary Clinton, too, has her flaws. But, as the Deseret News so rightly points out in coming out against Trump, "...her likely victory against a self-wounded candidate is not a mandate for her specific platform, but rather a repudiation of Trump's flaws."

    I'd like to offer my most sincere apology to Governor Romney for the things I wrote about him after he spoke out against Trump. Until that speech of Governor Romney's at the University of Utah's Hinckley Institute, I was proud to have supported his campaign for President. Although retired, Governor Romney is a good man. Even in retirement, Mitt Romney is still a leader we can trust.

    I cannot---and will not---vote for Donald Trump.

    Mitt Romney is of the highest character and integrity. Donald Trump is at the opposite extreme.

    Andrew "Andy" McKane IV, Springville, Utah.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 2:22 p.m.

    Trying to deflect with all the same old tired conservative consoeteccy theories about Clinton are not going to change the facts. You all broke the GOP and now you own it. Kudos to the DN for its show of ntegrity today.

  • MurrayMike Murray, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 2:19 p.m.

    As much as I agree with the writer of this article, I am saddened by the thought of Ms. Clinton in the White House for 8 long years. While Trump has shown his ugly colors, Ms. Clinton is a liar and a cheat to the American people. Why the democrats cannot see through this woman is beyond me. I cry to think that Bill Clinton will again be in the White House with her. This will be a sad, sad period for the country these next 8 years.

  • RunningRN St. George, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 2:19 p.m.

    I agree with almost every single word of this op-ed, except for this part: "Clinton promotes social and economic policies we cannot support." I am voting for Hillary, not just because I loathe Trump, but because I am unabashedly pro-Hillary. I used to be a Republican office-holder, and I proudly registered as a democrat this time around. I support her tax policy, her views on equal pay for women, a more balanced economic growth model, better paid family leave, increasing in the minimum wage (which would benefit those at the bottom), creating a public option for health care, and tolerance for America's wonderful diversity.

  • NotedNothings Maricopa, AZ
    Oct. 8, 2016 2:13 p.m.

    It is not too late for Donald Trump to step down or be removed. Both can happen up to the election day. The early ballot votes will be awarded to his replacement if that happens.

    In the article, Hillary Clinton was also denounced, though in a softer tone. Not sure who Desert News is endorsing, but they are against both main parties. That was made clear.

    Evan McMullin brings leadership qualities to this election no other candidate has. His policies are conservative and he believes in serving the nation, not the other way around. Liberty, unification with diversity, and the Constitution are at the heart of his campaign. Voting Hillary or Trump is bad for this nation. McMullin/Finn is the only team qualified to be President and Vice-President of the USA.

    #StandUpWithEvan #LetsTalkPrinciples #ProtectLiberty

  • Tyler McArthur South Jordan, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 2:12 p.m.

    Thank you Deseret News! For doing the right thing and sticking up for the principles we know are important. I support you in this 100%.

  • tim_the_tool_man_taylor Dallas, TX
    Oct. 8, 2016 1:48 p.m.

    Who is the author of this editorial--we deserve to know, yet it appears to be anonymous . . .

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 1:48 p.m.

    Looks as if the DNews has finally decided to close the barn door long after the self proclaimed studly mare has fled the stable. Outside of Mitt Romney few Republicans put human decency and mutual respect before their partisan positions.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 1:47 p.m.

    I agree with your calling Trump to resign his candidacy, but "Although she comes with extraordinary experience, Clinton promotes social and economic policies we cannot support ..."

    So since we've taken the kid gloves off now, what economic policies of Clinton do you oppose specifically?

  • junkgeek Agua Dulce, TX
    Oct. 8, 2016 1:46 p.m.

    Trump needs to carry his candidacy to full term.

  • Deetree St George, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 1:38 p.m.

    You forget the alternative is a woman who has committed more grevious crimes and you ar not asking her to step down? I suggest we as a nation PRAY and FAST. His crimes won't destroy the constitution her policy will. And no I don't know what I am going to do as a voter but shocked at this from one of the few news sources I still try to trust.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 1:33 p.m.

    @RG
    There's a difference between being wrong and lying. Hillary was wrong in presuming the video that was cited as a motivator of other protests that day was also a motivator for the terrorist attack.

    "I voted for Mitt last time"

    When Romney's governorship was ending, the computers and servers were wiped clear of e-mails leaving no record behind.

    @MarkMAN
    I don't think it's particularly surprising that a woman who was cheated on by her husband would have negative feelings about the women he'd been with. Not sure how that's remotely on the same level.

  • mamiejane Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 1:26 p.m.

    It's too bad that the Deseret News took this big moment to take a swipe at Hillary Clinton. Powerful men, like Donald Trump and the Deseret News editorial, board apparently have no problem dismissing women with a few sentences. The paper cannot assert the purity of not making endorsements when it takes one sentence to let its readers know that the News considers Hilary Clinton unsuitable. Her historic candidacy, even if rejected, deserves more than that back-handed slap. But to the news, and the Donald Trumps of the world, she is apparently a woman, deserving of nothing more than to be summarily dismissed.

  • A Guy With A Brain Enid, OK
    Oct. 8, 2016 1:24 p.m.

    I'll write in Romney or Cruz or vote for Johnson but not Trump. Or Hillary. Neither Hillary or Trump have the moral compass necessary to so much as lead a group of Girl Scouts out of a wet paper sack.

    America, oh, how I mourn for you.

  • A Quaker Brooklyn, NY
    Oct. 8, 2016 1:16 p.m.

    While at times I may have questioned the social stances and political opinions of this paper, at no time have I ever questioned the underlying human decency or sincerity of its staff. This editorial may be a little overdue, in my opinion, but I thank you for confirming my faith in you. Trump must be defeated. Clinton is not a danger to the Republic. Vote for her.

  • Mona Beaverton, OR
    Oct. 8, 2016 1:09 p.m.

    Sad this is necessary, but I agree 100%. Thanks.

  • From Ted's Head Orem, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 1:08 p.m.

    Here, here! I agree completely. As much as I believe Hillary Clinton to be a liar and a career politician, part of a dynasty that includes her less-than-perfect husband, I'd rather my vote went to Pence, or Romney, or Huntsman (although I believe him to be a closet Democrat) than to Trump. Somewhere in this debacle the GOP has to find its moral compass and put forth candidates who while they might lose to the growing immoral left, don't wallow in the muck along with them.

    Resign your candidacy, Mr. Trump..."you're fired."

  • ute alumni SLC, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 1:07 p.m.

    Right and a serial liar shouldn't? Really? No one died and destroying federal documents didn't take place with trump.

  • Susan Roylance
    Oct. 8, 2016 1:02 p.m.

    I will write in the name of Mike Pence for President. I am a strong Republican, but cannot vote for Trump.

  • UteMiguel Go Utes, CA
    Oct. 8, 2016 12:57 p.m.

    Very well stated. I agree with every word.

  • Roland Kayser Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 12:56 p.m.

    The problem is that Republicans are now stuck with Trump. Early voting has already started in several states, ballots are already printed, and thousands of votes have been cast. Plus, the party's rules and regulations do not appear to permit exchanging one candidate for another. Even if Trump quits, there is little certainty that he could be replaced by the party.

  • Stephen in Orem OREM, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 12:55 p.m.

    Amen to this article!

  • The Real Maverick Spanish Fork, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 12:55 p.m.

    Hey, BYUalum, where are you? Your boy trump made some pretty terrible remarks. You built this repubs! Remember, back in 2012, Rince Piebrus issued an autopsy which called for repubs to become more moderate on social issue and respectful towards women and minorities. Those recommendations obviously fell onto deaf ears. You made this bed repubs. Enjoy the next 8 years

  • MarkMAN West Columbia, TX
    Oct. 8, 2016 12:50 p.m.

    Would you consider writing the same against Hillary. Her record is much more colored and well documented. Her disdain of womenhood with her well documented conversations about women who would seek to stop power in her family, her disdain for American principles. You can not expect her to do what you ask, I could continue. We are faced with a horrible decision. To not vote for Trump is a vote for Hillary and a vote for Trump is a smack in the face. Who is better here one who is lewd or one who is corrupt? We Americans have earned this one by who we chose to lead us. Do you have the courage to complete the picture? Or will you only write the half?

    Sorry to write with such boldness but you wrote the editorial and invite comments.

    Mark

  • RG Buena Vista, VA
    Oct. 8, 2016 12:42 p.m.

    I agree. But please also ask Hillary to step down, if you haven't already. The stuff she did is felonious. She lied to the nation about a video, and then lied right to the faces of the parents of those killed in Benghazi, knowing full well (and it has been proven that she knew full well) that her video story was a lie. She called her email fiasco a "mistake." How about one mistake per email? That makes thousands of mistakes, and all premeditated. She knew exactly what she was doing and why. Now we find out that she told New York Wall St. people that she has two different opinions on matters: her real opinion, and her public opinion. I voted for Mitt last time, and I hope all those who didn't will realize he would have been much better. Then this time, I voted in the GOP primary for Cruz. But any of the GOP candidates would have been better than Trump.

  • TMR Los Angeles, CA
    Oct. 8, 2016 12:37 p.m.

    Kudos to the D-News. Now, hopefully, the voters of Utah will think likewise. By not voting for Trump, Utah - the most Republican of all states - can send a message to the world that civility and decency is the bedrock for the future of America. Not voting for Trump is a moral imperative.

  • Ralph Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 8, 2016 12:35 p.m.

    Des News: "What oozes from this audio is evil."

    Really? you ignore his complete and utter incompetence, his bigotry, his crude, rude, and otherwise unacceptable behaviour exposed nightly for the last several years, then all of a sudden he uses the P-word for a part of the female anatomy, and now you call him evil?

    Puh-lease!

    You sell out your country by supporting this weak and whiney demagogue, but then your puritanical senses get all in a bunch when he uses a bad word.