why vote for someone who can never win? I couldn't care less about
sentimental feelings -- I do care about the future of the Supreme Court because
that will effect my kids and grandkids for generations.
I support Trump very proudly! I don't even know you Evan nor do most who
claim they are for you. They only vote for you because you are LDS....but Harry
Reid is LDS too??
The NY Times poll shows 91% of Americans wouldn't choose either candidate.
I think that poll is pretty accurate.So, in my humble opinion, for
those of you who seem so "proud" of either Clinton or Trump probably
need to open your eyes to just how deeply flawed both people are. You're
also probably "company" people, meaning affiliated Democrats or
Republicans who just vote along party lines. How you can be proud of either
Hillary or Trump is confusing to the other 91% of us who can't vote for
either one.Hillary will win today and Bill will get his plane and
in-house movie theater back. The rest of us will go on with a general malaise
over our deteriorating moral fabric as a nation and people. An in line with all
the protests everybody seems to be making these days, I decided to carry out my
own line of protest.I wrote in "Jesus" as my presidential
preference. Silly? maybe. Irresponsible? probably. Proud? Yes...absolutely
proud of my vote,
I proudly support Hillary Clinton, Evan. You weren't even necessary.
Great to see this op-ed! I already voted for McMullin!
Hopefully, the election goes to the 435 people in the House, and they vote you
in, and Mr. President - elect, you will do a marvellous job! And thanks for
running on short notice, you will be a hero for decades to come.
Newsflash, half the country Is voting for someone, they are proud of.Even
better, we know who Trump is.
You want someone that can fight terrorism? How about a guy that has ACTUALLY
lived in and fought in terrorist zones around the world!"On
September 11th, 2001 Evan was in training at CIA Headquarters in Langley,
Virginia. He completed his training and repeatedly volunteered for overseas
service in the Middle East, North Africa and South Asia, spearheading
counterterrorism and intelligence operations in some of the most dangerous
places on earth."If you agree LIKE and SHARE!Google
Bloombergs interview with him for more info.
I didn't immediately jump on board the McMullin campaign, I read, and
watched, and read and watched speeches and articles by Trump, Clinton, and
Johnson. Then I looked up Evan, watched the few interviews out there, even
watched his TED talk. I didn't want to like him or get behind his campaign,
honestly I didn't. But I couldn't help it. Just take a little time and
look, really look at his campaign, his hope for this country. Then see how you
feel. I guarantee you will learn something.
Every citizen should vote whether they belong to a party or not; whether they
belong to a swing state or not; whether they agree 100% with their best
candidate or not. Voting is a responsibility; it is our way to message what kind
of candidates we want to enter the political arena to represent us.I
don't want candidates like Clinton or Trump. Johnson seems honorable but
he and his party don't much my ideals and values enough. Absent another
option, he would probably get my vote.Evan McMullin has my vote
because he is honest; honorable; patriotic; knowledgeable; experienced in the
frontlines of foreign affairs, capitalism, and legislation; and I support his
values of returning power to congress and the people who elect them, of
pro-life, and of plurality.
GaryO.... not sure I would disagree with Ms. Clinton's analysis of who
Trump's supporters are..... but regardless it was not wise to say. This
could be her Romney moment where she said something she believes, lots of people
believe, but still should not be publicly said. It gives people just one more
reason to vote against you.Lowering herself to Trumps level
isn't the way to win anyone over other than the people she is mocking. Not
a good move, nor a Presidential move.
"You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of
Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. The racist,
sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic — you name it." - Hillary
ClintonYepAnd the people who vote for McMullin are not
deplorable enough to be put in that basket of deplorables.But they
aren't sensible enough to be put in the basket of sensible people.We Hillary Clintons supporters occupy that spot.
Thanks for running Evan! You seem like an amazing guy! I'm planning on
voting for you!!
Vote your conscience.
I like "moderate thiking's" comments, at last a candidate I can
vote for without feeling I'm selling my county out.
@Fuzz - I used to be a Republican, but I declared my independence 50 days ago
when Trump accepted the GOP nomination and it became clear that the GOP no
longer represented my values. So does that mean me not voting for
Trump is a vote for Clinton? Or by not voting for Clinton, am I really voting
for Trump? Or just maybe my non-votes for both will cancel out the corresponding
"votes" for the other and my vote will actually just count for
McMullin.Whew...feel like I dodged a bullet there...
"So is the idea that McMullin will come in third and then the House of
Representatives will save the day by choosing him over Clinton and Trump?
"No, the idea is regardless of will eventually win, I will vote
not for someone who is offensive, has no morals, and doesn't represent the
values I hold. You are supposed to vote your conscience, not vote for a
winning team. Remember, had in 1776 the proposal to separate from England been
put to a vote, it would have failed. Only 1/3rd of "Americans"
supported the revolution in the beginning. You're not supposed
to be playing Fantasy Politics and picking winners and losers, but voting for
people who represent your beliefs and values. if Trump or Clinton represents
you... great... vote for them. But if they don't, don't endorse
someone who will act against what you believe in.
This guy isn't running a campaign for president. He'll take your
money and challenge Chaffetz down the road, but that's it.
Fuzz, I'm sorry, but that is blatently and patently false.Utah
isn't a swing state. Utah has statistically less than a 0.1% chance (aka
zero chance) of being the state which swings the election.It
doesn't matter how Utah votes. We won't decide who becomes the
president. Even if Clinton were to somehow win in Utah because would-be Trump
voters went for McMullin or Johnson or Castle, she would already have won
because of winning big swing states.This gives Utah the unique
opportunity to vote its conscience. It's our right and privilege as
Americans.And my conscience says that Donald Trump and Hillary
Clinton are unacceptable candidates. One of the two is likely to become our next
president. How I vote won't make that determination. But how I vote does
reflect who I am.
@ Sasha -- My brother, as one who used to run alongside you, I respect your
memories of Russia. But your comments sound almost exactly like those coming
from our own strong-man Russia-loving oligarch now running for president.
If you are a Republican and you vote for anyone other than Trump, you are voting
for Clinton.If you are a Democrat and you vote for anyone other than
Clinton, you are voting for Trump.There are only 2 candidates in this race
whether you think so or not.Vote accordingly.
I am glad Deseret News is offering these OpEds. I am seriously disappointed that
they have not published one from Darrel Castle of the Constitution Party. He is
a real contender and his platform is THE CONSTITUTION!! We need to read reread
and defend the Constitution.
"... denying Clinton and Trump a victory. If neither win a majority of votes
in the Electoral College, the U.S. House of Representatives will choose our next
president from the top three finishers."So is this the Utah
He has my vote. I can't in good conscience vote for either Clinton or Trump
(especially). Gary Johnson is a worthy consideration but despite my libertarian
leanings I for some reason cannot get excited about him (maybe it's his dis
of Mormons or more recently his ignorance). Evan Mc is not a perfect candidate
but at least my conscience will be clean.And before somebody accuses
me of throwing the election to Clinton by not voting for Trump, I am perfectly
fine with that. I have said this before and I will say it again. I am taking the
long view. In 2020 I would much rather have the chance to introduce a strong
candidate to challenge Clinton rather than have a surefire disastrous incumbent
Trump running against what will surely be a quality Democratic candidate.But none of this matters anyway. Just looking at the electoral math,
Clinton is going to win, and quite easily despite what the polls say.
It is such a relief to FINALLY have a candidate for whom I have respect and one
who has the demeanor and has been incredibly trained, educated and experienced
in every way that would inform him as President of the United States. If he
could be on the debate stage (even if only as a "2nd tier" candidate),
the American people would quickly be able to discern he is head and shoulders
above all the others.
Well I'm disappointed he doesn't use the Oxford comma, but that
appears to be his biggest flaw. That and his baldness. Seriously though, I am
proud to be able to vote for Evan McMullin. Any of the other options would leave
me feeling disgusted with myself and lacking a logical explanation to give my
children when I am eventually asked why I voted to destroy their future. Thank
you for giving me a voice in this election.
Evan McMullin is a conservative, which means we would get the same failed
economic policies that have been creating a huge class divide for the past 35
years. When will the conservatives finally realize that supply-side economics is
exactly what George H. W. Bush declared it to be: voodoo economics. Only the
arithmetically challenged can in good conscience vote for a Republican or a
pseudo-Republican like McMullin. But his campaign is a major joke.
His late entry into the race is a valiant effort at windmill tilting, but
he's aiming at the wrong target. Why anyone would waste a good vote on Evan
is a good question. May as well just leave that box blank. Protest votes may
make you feel good, but if they help put Donald Trump in the White House,
you're part of the problem, not part of the solution.
McMullin is right. His entry into the race has indeed give me someone I can
proudly vote for...Donald Trump.
Sasha Pachev is spot on regarding the need to narrow the productivity gap as the
best means to properly redistribute wealth."Instead of
redistributing the income we should do something to get the top 1% to teach the
less fortunate how to be competitive."We don't need the top
1% to teach anything to the rest of us. What we need to do is invigorate and
provide incentive for an entrepreneurial and innovative culture on a micro
level. Our tax code is written by the top 1%. State and local
governments now acquiesce to the 1% in the name of job creation by providing tax
exemptions and rebates that local small business or a micro-entrepreneur never
would have a chance to receive. Our state and local governments pick and choose
the winners of their local economies rather than have sound and prudent fiscal
policy that applies to everyone equitably. The former USSR and now
Russian Federation has gone from communism to a hybrid of communism-oligarchy.
The US is actually on a similar path.Both Democrats and Republicans
have created the class envy or "crab syndrome" along with crony
capitalism that leads to oligarchy and socialism.
I will be casting my vote for McMullin. I have no real expectation of his
success, but will vote for him strictly on principle. One
compelling point he makes is that the two major political parties create the
false argument of the "lesser of two evils." We have also been
"duped" into the notion that our only option are the two major
parties.jbejar makes a valid point: Clinton and Trump are part of
the baby boomer generation that has produced the absolute worst leaders in the
history of our nation. There is no redemptive value to be found from the baby
boomer generation as evidenced by measurable outcomes of the debt and fiscal
deficit left to my generation and my children's to clean up. I call baby boomers the enabler generation of political correctness as well
as entitlement. They have provided zero leadership.McMullin seeks
to resurrect some values and approach of the WWII generation or my grandparents
generation that brought us great leaders unlike we have seen from baby boomers.
Trump and Clinton are a reflection of the baby boomer generation that has
clearly failed the nation.
Apparently, Donald Trump claims to have the super-hero power of being able to
read the body language of CIA agents.Evan McMullin should be very
@Marxist:"massive wealth concentration going on. Where is this
taking us?"Like I said, if this is your concern, then something
must change with the way we do welfare.When people will ask for
fewer hours after a rise in the minimum wage, as they did in Seattle, so that
they don't lose benefits, don't you think that contributes to income
inequality?Because if this is the behavior of more than a handful of
people, then the lowest tiers won't gain income, no matter what we do.The loss of benefits as income rises also applies to marriage. Poor
people can lose over $5k/year in benefits just by getting married.
This is awesome. What he said about the Founding Fathers is true. They did risk
their lives for freedom. Now many politicians will only risk things to get
re-elected. His strategy to take the decision to the House of Representatives is
valid. Those who mock his campaign because he entered so late and is only on so
many states' ballots and he doesn't have a running mate yet don't
understand the 12th Amendment. He doesn't need to be in every state to win
electoral college votes, and he probably wouldn't be able to take his VP
with him if he won anyway. Let's vote for someone good we can
trust, not for the lesser of two evils. It's possible, guys. Utah needs to
step it up.
Today my wife showed me pictures of Moscow and asked me if I missed it maybe
just a little bit. I replied that even though it has been over 20 years since I
left my memory was not that short. I said - this is almost like showing somebody
who spent 20 years in prison the pictures of confinement and asking him if he
missed it. Compared to the economic and political freedoms of the United States,
life in the Soviet Union was a prison camp. What made it so? Precisely the
mindset of overzealous equality and social justice which produced a toxic
mindset of constant envy, a paranoid belief that the very source of your misery
was the success of somebody else, and if only you could make him fail, your
worries would be somehow magically gone.The problem with the lower
income bracket in the US is not that the top 1% has taken all of the money.
Rather it is that they do not know how to compete in the free market. Instead of
redistributing the income we should do something to get the top 1% to teach the
less fortunate how to be competitive. We should also put more effort in making
our market truly free which will properly reward the real achievers.
Evan's MBA from Wharton gives him a sound economic background to work with.
Evan McMullin clearly has not had his platform front and center, but from what I
have seen on different sources is much more economically sound then Bernie
Sanders pipe dreams backed my economists who overestimate the effects of
gov't spending (Mr Friedman). He believes that much needs to be done to
help the poor and supports flexible programs on the state level to help with
their needs. I also agree with his concern for the national debt that he has
expressed we need to do something about. As a millennial, we need leaders who
are concerned with the future generations like Evan who have viable sustainable
sound economic policies.
Evan McMullin may be sincere, knowledgeable, and experienced but he
doesn’t sound much different than the politicians he is criticizing. To
connect with the people, he must give them a compelling reason to vote for him.
If the best he’s got is to tell us what we already know about the
deficiencies of the two party status quo, then he still has a long way to go. He
might start by running for the state legislature or something more modest.
If Deseret News thinks this guy is seriously a contender, why haven't they
asked and or published one from Jill Stein?
Where the USSR succeeded it succeeded in spite of socialism, not because of it.
The Soviets were much more socialist immediately after the revolution, but
backed off on many of those positions in the face of the reality that socialism
doesn't work. Collectivization of the farms, for instance, was a
disaster.Socialism was the Soviet Union's ultimate downfall. In
a system where economic success went unrewarded or even was punished there was
simply no incentive to succeed or innovate.And if you want to speak
about wealth concentration, look at what the heads of the Soviet government had
when compared to the average Soviet citizen. And their path to those perks was
strictly political - they didn't produce anything useful in order to gain
those benefits.The fact that many Russians want the old ways back
simply proves that some of their voters are as clueless as some of ours are.
I see here blatant disregard for the great good that Evan McMullin stands for.
Why can't we as a people accept a good thing and fight for what's
right? We have become so accustomed to corruption, gainsaying, moral
compromises and cynicism, that we either scoff at someone like McMullin or
remain silent. A little bit of T. S. Eliot makes me think about this
situation."All our knowledge brings us nearer to our ignorance, All our ignorance brings us nearer to death, But nearness to death no
nearer to GOD. Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is
the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost
in information?"The cycles of Heaven in twenty centuries Bring
us farther from GOD and nearer to the Dust."
@SC Matt "If Marxism was so wonderful, the USSR would have been wildly
successful.But when actually implemented, all they did was freeze
the status quo, and inhibit development."I didn't write my
comments to defend the USSR or any other system, but as an aside the USSR was in
fact "wildly successful." It took a feudal country to super power
status in the space of 20 years. I don't deny Russian socialism
couldn't give rank-and-file Russians the consumer goods they wanted. But,
also as an aside, polling in Russia says 1/2 the population would like the old
setup back.As to McMullin, he has nothing to say about the
transformation happening to capitalism - the massive wealth concentration going
on. Where is this taking us? That's what I want to hear from the
candidates. I'm not hearing much. Only some "third" party
candidates have anything useful to say. That's why I'm supporting
SP-USA candidate Soltysik for president.
" ... time as the House Republicans’ chief policy director ..."
The only institution with lower approval ratings than either candidate.
McMullin has got my vote. His assessments of both Clinton and Trump are spot
on. Johnson is highly preferable to either Clinton or Trump, but does come with
the baggage mentioned in the article, thus McMullin is preferable. Although he
has my vote, I think if he were to write another op-ed piece and spell out more
of his positions and give some specifics, it may engender more confidence in the
Don Quixote lives in Evan McMullin with one exception...Don Quixote sings
"The Impossible Dream", Evan is living "The Impossible Dream".
McMullin knows policy, especially foreign policy. He has integrity and is
nuanced and inclusive--rather than dogmatic and divisive--in his approach to
real issues facing America. His solutions are informed and practical. I trust
him. The only problem is his late and somewhat haphazard entrance into this
race. Still, he has my vote.
So is the idea that McMullin will come in third and then the House of
Representatives will save the day by choosing him over Clinton and Trump? And he
really expects to be able to govern with virtually no popular support? There is
a reason nobody else was willing to go along with this plan.Hopefully, this election will be enough of a jolt so that more people will
participate in primary elections and put up party candidates that can talk
policy instead of trading insults. If we had Jeb Bush vs Bernie Sanders we would
be having a much more interesting campaign right now. If we allow Congress to
save us from ourselves we only invite corruption and more apathy.The
people must decide this election - not Congress.
"We need a candidate who knows some economics (like Sanders)."If Marxism was so wonderful, the USSR would have been wildly successful.But when actually implemented, all they did was freeze the status quo,
and inhibit development.In the end, the "average person" in
the USSR had a lower standard of living than somebody in the US at the 10th
percentile of income.And that's all that can ever happen with
socialism, or Marxism. Once the incentive to innovate is gone, progress
stops."income share of the top 5% has risen from 22% to 37% the
last forty years, and the share of the top 1% has risen from 8% to 22% over the
same period."One of the biggest barriers to the poor doing
better is that we give welfare sub-optimally. We take it away as income rises
WAY too quickly. As a result, people who get benefits are "stuck" where
they are. People who don't get welfare face no such barrier.Remove the barrier for the poor to advance and they will.When
Seattle passed the $15/hr minimum wage, people started requesting fewer hours so
they don't lose benefits.It gave them more free time, but
doesn't improve income equality.
Finally someone that is inspiring, that is grounded, that has high character,
that has vision, that can truly lead.McMullin has my vote. Who could possibly vote for Trump or Hillary?I was going to vote
for Johnson, but his support of illegal drugs is concerning, as are other social
and foreign positions.McMullin is much more aligned with my
Evan McMullin has proven he's inept in running a campaign. He's only
on the ballot in 9 states. In 8 of those States, they won't let him change
his VP pick, due to legal statutes. Yes, we need change in Washington. No, Evan
McMullin doesn't come close to the change we need.
The big problem with McMullin is his ignoring of economic matters. His view of
the world appears to be entirely political, whereas we live in a politico
economic system. From economists Piketty and Saez we have that the income share
of the top 5% has risen from 22% to 37% the last forty years, and the share of
the top 1% has risen from 8% to 22% over the same period. These are
astounding changes. I wonder what McMullin thinks of this. Will we ever know?
The big problem with McMullin is his ignoring, indeed his ignorance, of economic
matters. His view of the world is entirely political, whereas we live in a
politico economic system. From economists Piketty and Saez we have that the
income share of the top 5% has risen from 22% to 37% the last forty years, and
the share of the top 1% has risen from 8% to 22% over the same period. These are astounding changes. I wonder what McMullin thinks of this.
But I suspect he doesn't think about it at all. We need a
candidate who knows some economics (like Sanders).