Big 12 matrix fodder: BYU fans flocking to season-opener against Arizona in NFL venue

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  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 2, 2016 5:01 p.m.

    BleedCougarBlue "Yeah, one little tidbit you conveniently left out: the total distance between Norman, OK and Austin, TX is only 372 miles."
    I've been told time and again by Cougar fans that geography doesn't matter in this modern age of air travel. But I agree with you - fans would rather travel 445 miles to Houston instead of 1094 miles to Provo.

  • summarizer andrews afb, MD
    Sept. 2, 2016 11:39 a.m.

    @Tomahawk Red

    "..Play as a mid-major and get blown out in NFL stadiums by P5 opponents or play in the Pac 12..."

    I guess you have to enjoy your "mid-major" comment while you have it. Come October or sooner BYU obsessed Utah fans won't be able to claim such things anymore.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Sept. 2, 2016 11:17 a.m.

    Uteology - East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 1, 2016 12:41 p.m.
    TJ - Eagle Mountain, UT
    Sept. 1, 2016 8:53 a.m.
    A few jealous Y obsessed haters art particularly nasty on this article. BYU travels so much better than their team that it isn't even close.

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    First, I think Ute Nation would like to know if you can go ONE day without commenting on Utah fans?

    utology:
    Not U fans...BYU obsessed haters. As long as you and the rest of the inferiority complex crew continue to demonstrate your little brother syndrome on all BYU articles, expect to be called out for it.

    I know real Ute fans. 99% of them are respectful and don't act like annoying, immature, jr high students.

  • Jello is Good Washington, DC
    Sept. 2, 2016 6:40 a.m.

    @Henry Drummond - San Jose, CA
    Sept. 1, 2016 10:43 p.m.

    "Being able to bring a lot of fans to a game helps BYU but it isn't a big selling point to Texas, Oklahoma, WVU, etc. who almost always sell out their games anyway. That's not where the real money is anyway."

    You may be right in just a few instances, but the majority of the B12 did not sell out their home games last year. It is also a good indicator of national following. And guess what fans do if they can't get a ticket to a game? That's right, they watch it on TV, improving ratings.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Sept. 1, 2016 10:43 p.m.

    Being able to bring a lot of fans to a game helps BYU but it isn't a big selling point to Texas, Oklahoma, WVU, etc. who almost always sell out their games anyway. That's not where the real money is anyway.

  • Gruncle Ralph Taylorsville, UT
    Sept. 1, 2016 7:29 p.m.

    hahaha....(wiping tear from eye) are the whiney ute fans/byu haters getting roasted on this board. Hoo-hoooo. I've noticed the more bitter of the group aren't even venturing onto this message board at all. Sooner Ute, you should just quit and let your bleeding stop, you can't dig your way out of the hole you're in. Haha the ute envy is quite enjoyable!

  • BYURUGGER Fulshear, TX
    Sept. 1, 2016 6:01 p.m.

    For the person who said to get those numbers in a state not adjacent to Utah - go look at the attendance at the Virginia game in 2013. Ask the Texas fans about the BYU fans in 2014. There were not as many but it was because of the Ticket limits set by Texas. That said, ask Texas about the BYU fans. If I remember correctly over 50% of the crowd at Middle Tennessee State was for BYU. Also, there was a huge BYU crowd at UCLA last year and again in, I think, 2007. I'm betting there were more BYU fans at the game with UCLA last year that there were Utah fans at their last game in LA. The numbers don't lie. Heck they had nearly 5000 last week for a woman's volleyball match against UVU. What were the percentages of Utah/BYU fans in Vegas last year? The numbers actually do support a huge fan base.

  • Carnak Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 1, 2016 4:54 p.m.

    Sounds like there could be upwards of 100,000 people at the game with 80,000 BYU fans.

    Therefore, BYU will win and win handily.

  • Tomahawk Red San Francisco, CA
    Sept. 1, 2016 3:20 p.m.

    northern_lights - Ogden, UT
    Sept. 1, 2016 7:44 a.m.
    KimmyP

    Unfortunately for U, you'll never get a chance to experience what BYU have experienced several times as an Independent - a made for television game in an NFL stadium - BYU has two such games this season.

    -------

    Let's see...

    Play as a mid-major and get blown out in NFL stadiums by P5 opponents or play in the Pac 12.

    Yeah, I'm going with the latter.

    Enjoy yours.

  • AzTim Gilbert, AZ
    Sept. 1, 2016 1:49 p.m.

    I bought 14 tickets thru Ticketmaster and was not asked whom I was supporting. I agree with others that 23,000 is way low for the numbers of BYU fans that will actually pack the stadium. The excitement here is almost palpable.

  • Jello is Good Washington, DC
    Sept. 1, 2016 1:23 p.m.

    @Uteology - East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 1, 2016 12:41 p.m.

    "Second, BYU does not travel any better than most schools. You have local Mormons that show up to games, which is great but I am willing to bet most only show up for one game."

    Travel Well = fans of visiting team attending game. So, yes, they "travel" well.

    Weak argument.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Sept. 1, 2016 1:18 p.m.

    Those numbers do not tell the whole story. For instance a pretty good chunk of the tickets sold through the University of Arizona have actually been purchased by BYU fans who will be sitting on the UA side. That is because they wanted better seats than what was available on the BYU side because the best seats on the BYU side were already purchased.

    My cousin who lives in Las Vegas purchased 12 tickets on the UA side through the University of Arizona. He and his family are BYU fans and will be there in BYU gear. And they are not the only ones, I know several more BYU fans that bought tickets through UA because better seats were still available and I also have spoken with others whose friends or families have bought tickets through UA but are BVUY fans.

    It is going to be an overwhelming majority BYU crowd, on both sides of the field. ute "fans" like soonerute are laughably ignorant of truth.

  • BleedCougarBlue Enid, OK
    Sept. 1, 2016 1:14 p.m.

    @ SoonerUte - Salt Lake City, UT - "23,000 tickets out of a capacity of 77,000.
    "Hey, look at how well we travel Big 12!" What "travel well" means in the Big 12.
    Neutral site game. 46,050 Oklahoma fans (and) 46,050 Texas fans."

    Yeah, one little tidbit you conveniently left out: the total distance between Norman, OK and Austin, TX is only 372 miles. That's right, the total distance. Google it yourself.

    So, once again, a Utah commenter purposely skews things to put down BYU.

    Nice try, little brother.

  • carman Wasatch Front, UT
    Sept. 1, 2016 12:57 p.m.

    Great to see the Ute trolls out in force on this thread!

  • Jello is Good Washington, DC
    Sept. 1, 2016 12:47 p.m.

    @SoonerUte - Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 1, 2016 11:14 a.m.

    "The other Cougars in Houston have sold out their game at NRG Stadium - capacity 72,200, same as Phoenix Stadium."

    The "other" Cougars averaged 38,000 in home attendance last year. Do you think it might have something to do with the game being against Oklahoma? Yea, I thought you might reconsider your failed logic. Especially when you claim Oklahoma. Ever been to Phillips Mound in Barttlesville?

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 1, 2016 12:41 p.m.

    TJ - Eagle Mountain, UT
    Sept. 1, 2016 8:53 a.m.
    A few jealous Y obsessed haters art particularly nasty on this article. BYU travels so much better than their team that it isn't even close.

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    First, I think Ute Nation would like to know if you can go ONE day without commenting on Utah fans?

    Second, BYU does not travel any better than most schools. You have local Mormons that show up to games, which is great but I am willing to bet most only show up for one game.

  • Jello is Good Washington, DC
    Sept. 1, 2016 12:40 p.m.

    @SoonerUte - Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 1, 2016 11:14 a.m.

    "Actually, I was impressed with 23,000 traveling to the game. I've attended neutral site games, and I appreciate the expense of traveling with family and friends. Its a big deal."

    "45,000 expected at Arizona game. Similar number in Kansas City against Mizzou. We can project a crowd of 45,000 in Washington D.C. against WVU. All of those games would fit comfortably in Rice-Eccles."

    "Still BYU travels better than any other candidates."
    "Isn't BYU supposed to be P5 already? Why compare yourself against G5s? Better than all other candidates?"

    Back-peddle, back-peddle, back-peddle...cut out the side exit.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 1, 2016 12:35 p.m.

    @ute alumni - SLC, UT

    That's more than 50% of what PAC 10.2 powerhouse Utah Rice Eccles holds.....rumor has it that SUU will be bringing around 25k fans tomorrow night. Go Utes.

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    That's because SUU fans want to watch a"real" football team not some "mid-major" P5 wannabe.

    Which explains why only 1,800 SUU tickets were sold for the 11/2 game at LES with 20K empty seats.

  • Fish71 mesa, AZ
    Sept. 1, 2016 12:29 p.m.

    My Son and Grandson are coming from Highland. I bought 41 tickets for my wife's aunt in Idaho Falls. Brother-in-laws from Seattle and Colorado are coming too. Will be at my house for Lunch and some pool time. BYU is the greatest. Traveled last year to Michigan with my three sons.Go Cougars!!!!:)

  • Aliluminar Orem, UT
    Sept. 1, 2016 12:19 p.m.

    SoonerUte, you say: The Cougars in Houston have sold out their game at NRG Stadium - capacity 72,200.
    But wheat does the UH head coach say? GOOGLE it, if you want to find the truth, rather than just say what you think it should be.

    The Houston press quote:
    Friday, October 23, 2015 University of Houston head coach Tom Herman said "we’re not selling out every home game. No power conference is ever going to invite UH to join as long as it can’t sell out a 40,000 season stadium on a weekly basis.”

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 1, 2016 11:14 a.m.

    Actually, I was impressed with 23,000 traveling to the game. I've attended neutral site games, and I appreciate the expense of traveling with family and friends. Its a big deal.
    But I became less impressed when Dick Harmon started bragging about the thousands of alumni, and hundreds of thousands of Mormons in the area (all of whom are supposedly Cougar fans).
    Given such boasting, I expected more ticket sales.

    eastcoastcoug "46,050 is about the capacity of that Y-uuuuuge stadium in SLC"
    45,000 expected at Arizona game. Similar number in Kansas City against Mizzou. We can project a crowd of 45,000 in Washington D.C. against WVU. All of those games would fit comfortably in Rice-Eccles. What you're saying is the SLC stadium is correctly sized. The big thing now in college football is improving the fan experience, not "add more seats".

    SurfIsUp "Still BYU travels better than any other candidates."
    Isn't BYU supposed to be P5 already? Why compare yourself against G5s? Better than all other candidates? The other Cougars in Houston have sold out their game at NRG Stadium - capacity 72,200, same as Phoenix Stadium.

  • Surf is Up Miami, FL
    Sept. 1, 2016 10:40 a.m.

    @SoonerUte - ".....Phoenix is BYU's backyard. That stadium should be sold out."

    Nice try to sidestep the fact that in almost no situation, in any stadium in the country, would the utes get that many into a stadium."

    It is well known that Oklahoma and Texas have good traveling fans. Still BYU travels better than any other candidates. It also travels better than U.

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 1, 2016 10:33 a.m.

    We have more fans and a big stadium.

    If only we could win some games against P5 schools.

  • hobbes1012003 Kaysville, UT
    Sept. 1, 2016 10:09 a.m.

    23,000 is an underestimate. I bought my two tickets from an outside agency which did not ask me which school I was rooting for. I expect thousands more BYU fans have done the same. I would say closer to 30,000+ BYU fans in attendance.

  • sheriffcreg SANDY, UT
    Sept. 1, 2016 9:44 a.m.

    Good luck BYU. I hope you win, but I also hope you give the Utes some ideas on how to beat you, cause next week is gonna be crazy!

  • Old But Not Stupid Moorpark, CA
    Sept. 1, 2016 9:37 a.m.

    Cool new website....love the large text.

    Although that does not seem to quell the vicious comments from the crimson crew.

    Go Bruins!!

  • 1978 Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 1, 2016 9:31 a.m.

    @SoonerUte

    Let see how your Utes did in supporting their team against Arizona last year on the road compared to other opponents.

    Arizona Home Games (Attendance):

    UCLA 56,004
    Texas San Antonio 51,111
    Northern Arizona 51,494
    Oregon State 52,987
    Utah 48,912
    Washington State 47,847

    In other words a #10 Utah team was the second lowest attended game last year for Arizona. And look who outdrew you.

    23,000 tickets sold so far for BYU fans in the same state when their team isn't even ranked is impressive no matter how you look at it.

  • Sanefan Wellsville, UT
    Sept. 1, 2016 9:25 a.m.

    Trying to be snarky Sooner won't work. BYU sold out all of their allowed tickets. When the general public, like myself, buy tickets, they don't ask what school we are rooting for. There will be 40K plus BYU fans there. Hey, but keep at it, try too find something else to diss on.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Sept. 1, 2016 8:53 a.m.

    A few jealous Y obsessed haters art particularly nasty on this article. BYU travels so much better than their team that it isn't even close. BYU has the biggest fan base in the state by far. BYU has the biggest fan base of all state schools in the nation by far. BYU has the biggest Worldwide fan base of all Utah schools by far.
    The venom will be particularly vile after BYU gets a Big 12 invite. And donors have already committed millions of dollars per year to make up the difference while they work up to full membership.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    Sept. 1, 2016 8:33 a.m.

    @SoonerUte,

    Hmmm 46,050 is about the capacity of that Y-uuuuuge stadium you have there in SLC. Or about the same number of people BYU was getting to games when I went to school there way back in the 1970's. I love hearing Utes tear us down for fan base when you guys are in a P5 conference in a bigger city with a bigger budget and still only pull about two-thirds of what BYU gets in attendance.

  • let's roll LEHI, UT
    Sept. 1, 2016 8:31 a.m.

    My ten tickets aren't from the BYU allotment. I expect 30K+ Cougar fans. Golf and football in the desert. Should be fun.

  • Jello is Good Washington, DC
    Sept. 1, 2016 8:06 a.m.

    Wish I was going to be there, But I already purchased 10 tickets at FedEx for the WV game.

  • red.diehard Central, UT
    Sept. 1, 2016 8:06 a.m.

    re: northern_lights

    'Unfortunately for U, you'll never get a chance to experience what BYU have experienced several times as an Independent - a made for television game in an NFL stadium - BYU has two such games this season.'

    Is that what you call it? Independence, for byu, is slow death. Enjoy those made for tv games...next stop Big Sky.

  • Jello is Good Washington, DC
    Sept. 1, 2016 8:03 a.m.

    @SoonerUte - Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 1, 2016 12:14 a.m.

    "23,000 tickets out of a capacity of 77,000.
    "Hey, look at how well we travel Big 12!"

    What "travel well" means in the Big 12.
    Neutral site game.
    46,050 Oklahoma fans
    46,050 Texas fans.
    And those are just the ones that got into the game."

    So you have to admit that the Texas/Oklahoma game is not the norm in the B12. Arizona is not our rival. They are not in our conference. We haven't been playing them every year for over 100 years. We don't compete with them for area supremacy.

    BYU travels better to road games then 80% of the B12 and over 100% of the expansion candidates.

  • northern_lights Ogden, UT
    Sept. 1, 2016 7:44 a.m.

    KimmyP

    Unfortunately for U, you'll never get a chance to experience what BYU have experienced several times as an Independent - a made for television game in an NFL stadium - BYU has two such games this season.

  • red.diehard Central, UT
    Sept. 1, 2016 7:36 a.m.

    The narrative that is playing out around here is interesting. I hope the sadness does not equal the hubris when the school is not invited to the Big12.

    Wildcats take this one by 13.

  • Chris from Rose Park Hartford, CT
    Sept. 1, 2016 7:32 a.m.

    @eastcoastcoug
    I've had the same experience. Especially at the UVA game. It was packed with BYU fans. It wasn't a majority, but it was substantial. I've been to the UVA and UCONN games and will be going down this year to the West Virginia game. I wonder how many times we have crossed paths without knowing it.

  • WalkerTexas Ranger Greeley, CO
    Sept. 1, 2016 7:12 a.m.

    Our flight leaves Denver at 2:00 today. What better way to celebrate our anniversary than watching BYU whup up on AZ! Go Cougs!

  • Jello is Good Washington, DC
    Sept. 1, 2016 5:52 a.m.

    "Oh when the saints go marching in, oh when the saints go marching in."

  • KimmyP Granstville, UT
    Sept. 1, 2016 5:35 a.m.

    Nice for cougar fans to get a taste of what P5 membership entails. Enjoy it while you can.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    Sept. 1, 2016 5:07 a.m.

    23k is just what has been sold of BYU"s allotment. My experience is that BYU fans buy a lot more tickets in addition. In the games we've been to on the East Coast the past few years, the BYU ticket numbers were lower than the actual number of BYU fans in the stadium (e.g. we don't just sit in the one sliver that is dedicated to us). At UVA, UConn and other games, there was blue all over the stadium. I've never once sat in the seats BYU sells.

    Go Cougs!!

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 1, 2016 12:14 a.m.

    23,000 tickets out of a capacity of 77,000.
    "Hey, look at how well we travel Big 12!"

    What "travel well" means in the Big 12.
    Neutral site game.
    46,050 Oklahoma fans
    46,050 Texas fans.
    And those are just the ones that got into the game.

    Phoenix is BYU's backyard.
    That stadium should be sold out.

  • Rockarolla West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 31, 2016 9:11 p.m.

    Already here with my family. Enjoying some golf and the fine eateries around town. Have seen some other Cougar fans and expect to see many more in the next few days. Of course the wildcat fans are here in abundance and all have been very cordial. Can't wait for the game. Good Luck Coogs.

  • strom thurmond taylorsville, UT
    Aug. 31, 2016 8:45 p.m.

    There are no big12 schools adjacent to Utah.

    Get 25k in a state not next to Utah, then you could make an argument.

    But that will not happen.

    The mythical global fan horde is preposterous.

  • Sanefan Wellsville, UT
    Aug. 31, 2016 8:27 p.m.

    My family and I will be there. A little golf Saturday morning, followed by some pool time and then the game. Can't wait. Prediction, BYU 38/Arizona 35.

  • ute alumni SLC, UT
    Aug. 31, 2016 7:59 p.m.

    That's more than 50% of what PAC 10.2 powerhouse Utah Rice Eccles holds.....rumor has it that SUU will be bringing around 25k fans tomorrow night. Go Utes.