Libertarian presidential ticket pledges balanced budget, entitlement reform

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  • DraperUteFan Draper, UT
    Aug. 20, 2016 10:41 p.m.

    Mohrman, Trump doesn't need any help from me or the media. He manages to continually lose ground to Hillary Clinton every time he opens his mouth. Smart candidates make the media their ally, not the adversary. Ronald Reagan was "Teflon Man" because he joked with the media and was self deprecating. Donald Trump keeps blaming the media but has nobody to blame but himself. He can't go a few days without being embroiled in something that destroys trust. His campaign manager is the latest in a series of missteps.

    Trump has been pro abortion his entire adult life, a fan of the Clintons, wants to lower taxes and drastically increase defense spending which will only have the effect of increasing the deficit.

    As for Johnson, apparently you aren't following very closely. He is going after Bernie voters, Indepdents, disaffected Republicans (and there are many of us because of Trump), and many other groups. Recent polls showed Johnson in the race is actually hurting Hillary more than Trump.

    As far as track records, Trump has bankrupted numerous businesses by not paying bills and enriched himself That is a record of dishonesty, just like his positions on the issues.

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 20, 2016 9:57 p.m.

    Why does he call himself a libertarian? Nothing of which he stands for promotes Liberty!

  • mohrman Payson, UT
    Aug. 20, 2016 7:42 p.m.

    DraperUtefan - your comment is the typical nonsense that is completely untrue yet is spread over and over. A vote for Johnson does no harm at all to Clinton. He is a republican governor. He is going after republican voters. All of your rhetoric about Trump is simply the things you hear from media personalities or other politicians and you choose to not hear anyone that says anything opposite. While the current situation in America is the direct result of those from the Obama administration including the constant corruption and the smear whoever tried to focus on problems. If you spend your time looking at what is actually happening instead of just respreading things that noone knows because Mr. Trump has not held ANY political office. Clinton has and has done so as a sworn official. You can belittle Trump but he has nothing to do with the problems in America and it is sad that you would rather just talk about assumptions instead of actual track records.

  • DraperUteFan Draper, UT
    Aug. 20, 2016 7:18 p.m.

    @Steve Cottrell, your comment is full of irony. Gary Johnson is the one who wants to retain ss and medicare...the solvent way. If the program stays on the path it is, something neither Trump or Hillary have vowed to change, the program will eventually bankrupt, leaving future generations who pay in to the system nothing.

    Johnson's plan for social security is not new. Many smart economists, demographers, and other politicians have previously proposed it. Raise the retirement age, plain and simple. People are living longer and we have more of them. How do you propose to pay for all that, with your ever increasing tax increases? Good luck with that. There isn't enough money flowing in and too much flowing out. Economics 101. Expenses exceed cash flow.

    Raising the age for eligibility would drastically reduce the cost of the program. It is the only sensible way short of massive tax increases. The deficit is creeping ever closer to the point of no return, so you can't cut taxes as Donald plans to do to pay for ever increasing benefits for more aged people.

  • DraperUteFan Draper, UT
    Aug. 20, 2016 6:55 p.m.

    A vote for Johnson is a vote against Hillary and Trump, both of whom would be disastrous for this country. Trump would be no less problematic that Hillary folks. His tax and trade policies will lead the country into even deeper debt. Every time Trump opens his mouth he drops a point in the polls as people see him for the fake he is. Mitt called it right...Trump is a fraud.

    If Hillary wins it is the fault of the RNC. Most of us would have voted for a good Republican candidate, but in this case the good Republican candidate just happens to be a Libertarian.

    A vote for Trump is a vote against Johnson, the only sane candidate with a track record of success in business and government. See how that logic works Utopian?

  • Crusader Layton, UT
    Aug. 20, 2016 6:32 p.m.

    It is silly for people to say that a vote for Johnson is a vote for Clinton. I have voted for the Democrat in last six of the last seven elections. I am voting for Johnson this election, my second choice is Clinton. Trump is not fit to be mayor of Elko, let alone POTUS.

  • Bloodhound Provo, UT
    Aug. 20, 2016 2:46 p.m.

    The third party candidates have no chance of winning. Over many years, I've sometimes voted for third party candidates. The one thing they all had in common was they all ended up losing. Vote for Trump! Otherwise, don't complain when Hillary is President and pushing liberalism in all its forms (i.e. abortion on demand, radical Supreme Court judges, extending Obamacare, etc.).

  • Steve Cottrell Centerville, UT
    Aug. 20, 2016 1:24 p.m.

    Seniors: It sounds like medicare coverage and even Social Security are in jeopardy if the libertarian team should happen to get elected.

  • Dr H LAYTON, UT
    Aug. 20, 2016 12:35 p.m.

    Trump will lose even if all Republicans vote for him. There was no one splitting the anti-Obama vote in 2012, and Romney was killed. Trump is far more unpopular, has much less support from young, minority and female voters, and so will LOSE. The electoral math stands firmly in his way. So voting 3rd party does NOT make a Hillary win more likely. That was guaranteed the moment Trump became the nominee. Voting 3rd party will, however, help send a strong signal that Trumpism has no future.

  • Shaun Sandy, UT
    Aug. 20, 2016 10:08 a.m.

    @byualum. A vote for Johnson is a vote for Johnson. It trump comes up short it is solely on trump and no one else. Trump supporters like yourself can't blame others for not buying into trumps hysteria and hyperbole.

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    Aug. 20, 2016 9:56 a.m.

    If Mitt does NOT endorse Johnson, I am still voting Trump.😂

  • LDSAZ Casa Grande, AZ
    Aug. 20, 2016 8:18 a.m.

    If Mitt endorses Johnson, I'm voting Trump.

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    Aug. 20, 2016 7:51 a.m.

    Could his vision of his first 100 days be just a mirage? We don't know what Gary Johnson will be doing the first 100 days of the next administration, but it won't be implementing presidential plans.

    Yes, a vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Gary Johnson. I presume the "good news" is that it will make Hillary Clinton the next President. No thank you.

    Donald Trump: The People's President!

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    Aug. 20, 2016 7:38 a.m.

    Common Sense, people, says that when you divide the Republican party, the Democrat wins! This is not higher math, for goodness sake. No matter how you think your vote is going to count when you vote for someone other than Trump, Hillary wins. Yikes! That would plunge our country deeper in debt and allow a 500% increase in illegal immigrants into our country, keep Obamacare and go to the single payer, see increased violence in the unchecked Black Lives matter movement, pay back all the favors bought into the Clinton Foundation, liberal Supreme Court judges, etc. etc.

    As stated above, Donald Trump has had no part of the policies and crimes in this country. He has built a multi-million dollar business and knows how to get things done instead of pandering to PC and special interests. The GOP Establishment who have their nose "bent out of shape" are not listening to the American people who want Donald Trump as our next President! He is a thousand, thousand times better than Hillary Clinton who continues to lie about her lying.

    The Media continually stabs at Trump. This election will be won at the ballot box, not in the media.
    Trump-Pence 2016

  • mohrman Payson, UT
    Aug. 19, 2016 10:28 p.m.

    In keeping it simple, say there are a 100 votes to be president. Majority will win. There are 46 democrats and 44 republican voters and 10 independent. Most of the democrats will stick with their nominee. So, the those who were once republican and now doing their own thing, promising to be an alternative, will never get all of the republicans. However that is who they target over and over...the party with the lower numbers to begin with. So even if I liked the message, they lie because they cannot win. If they really had integrity, they would be honest and say there is no way we can win this time but people like our message so we will push for this change in 4 years. Anything other than this is simply trying to split the republican vote and not damaging the democrats and therefore, after all the sincerity nonsense, (pride) they let Clinton be elected. If they wanted to win now, they should be hammering on their message against her as she and the current president are responsible for the current makeup of what is happening in the country...not Trump. He has nothing to do with today's policies and crimes.

  • Sanefan Wellsville, UT
    Aug. 19, 2016 10:28 p.m.

    Ditto, Utans and the rest of the West. Vote Libertarian and give our Nation a chance. I'm voting libertarian.

  • Wyomex Burlington, WY
    Aug. 19, 2016 9:37 p.m.

    Republicans & Democrats Unite! Vote Libertarian.

    Remember the story of the emperor’s new clothes? “But he has no clothes on!” said the little child, expressing honestly the emperor’s sartorial state.

    Integrity and decency, like clothes, is sorely lacking in the two major party candidates.

    The dilemma of electing a naked (figuratively speaking) emperor or empress is solved by considering the Libertarian party. There’s a lot of common sense decently dressed there.

    If the Republicans weren’t so scared of electing Clinton and the Democrats of Trump, they would each leave their party in droves because their parties have left them!

    Don't hold your nose when you vote. Don't vote because you like the other candidate less. Breathe free - Vote Libertarian.

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    Aug. 19, 2016 9:30 p.m.

    No Utopian_LIe a vote for Johnson is a vote for Johnson.

  • Utopian_Lie Centerville, UT
    Aug. 19, 2016 9:15 p.m.

    Johnson will never win. A vote for Johnson is a vote for Clinton. That is the way it is.

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    Aug. 19, 2016 8:59 p.m.

    Worf:

    But Johnson and Weld have been governors and have done it--several times. Weld even did it in MA, a very liberal state. They are proven leaders who have got things done. I don't agree on every issue but they have the track record of success.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Aug. 19, 2016 7:07 p.m.

    Balanced budget?

    That's what Obama said, instead, he doubled the national debt.