Exclusive: Hillary Clinton: What I have in common with Utah leaders

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  • Mark from Montana Davis County, UT
    Nov. 8, 2016 4:17 a.m.

    "I’m running for president to make sure our country continues to live up to our founding principles."

    If this were true, I would have voted for her with great joy. Unfortunately, I think it is just another misrepresentation by a professional politician. Clinton and Trump are opposite sides of the same bad penny, one that seen on the ground I would not pick up.

    We deserve the next four years for our choices made during the primary season. Too bad the price is so high.

  • LeftCoastUte DANVILLE, CA
    Nov. 8, 2016 12:55 a.m.

    For a while it looked like the state of Utah might make a bold statement and give its electoral votes to someone other than Trump - rejecting his treatment of women and minorities, his lightweight intellectual curiosity, and his self-centered approach to "leadership". But if recent polls and the comments in this article are any indication, Utah will miss this opportunity to send a lasting message and be on the right side of history.

  • london_josh lincoln, CA
    Nov. 7, 2016 11:36 p.m.

    I love how she promotes herself to be the peaceful kind one wanting an end to the divisiveness - then she takes her opportunity to fear-monger Mormons into thinking that Trump is same as Gv Boggs and that he'd limit movement on Mormonism.

    Unfortunately she'll likely be our next president - it's going to be a rough ride for 4 years!

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Nov. 7, 2016 9:51 p.m.

    Clinton knows nothing of Utah or it culture. Zero.

  • ute alumni SLC, UT
    Nov. 7, 2016 9:21 p.m.

    If one has no values how can she have values in common with someone? Unless they are like her and have none

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2016 8:31 p.m.

    @Wathcyagonnado "Electing Hillary will end religious freedom as we know it."

    If you mean as commonly defined here, I sure hope so.

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Nov. 7, 2016 7:56 p.m.

    @ Pragmatic - Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 12:00 p.m.
    I am so greatful, . . . . When the constitution is being compromised by far right groups, . . . . .

    You have to be kidding. I would say it is the far left (ie: Democrats) who are compromising the constitution, not the far right.

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Nov. 7, 2016 7:29 p.m.

    How do we know that Hillery is telling the truth about what she believes in as per the statements in her article. She tells untruths so often that I as one have a hard time believing anything she says.

    True, probably most of what she quotes as statements Tramp has made are factual so long as they are not taken out of context. Many politicians do often take statements others make out of context.

    But I am more concerned about the truth of what she says she believes, so I take them with a grain of salt.

  • Sportsfan123 Salt lake, UT
    Nov. 7, 2016 5:55 p.m.

    Hillary has been all over the news with one scandal after another.

    Like the Veritas project, the head of the DNC Donna Brazille feeding questions to Hillary before a debate which is against the rule and has since been forced to resign from CNN. Voter fraud look it up its a fact. The Clinton faundation and pay to play wich is currently under investigation by the FBI. Mr Bill C mtg with the attorney general in a airplane hanger on a private jet just before the announcement from director Comey, hmmmm.

    O! Lets not forget the e-mail scandal that we all know about, is there really anyone out there that will vote for someone like this? Just because she claims to be an advocate for women.

    Im sorry but i have paid attention to who she really is, and there is a reason Anderson Cooper asked her if she will say anything just to get elected.

    Its pretty clear based on fact that morals and ethics play no part in who she is and it is not an assumption to say she is further away from representing the values of Utah than the other candidate.

  • Lillith70 SLC, UT
    Oct. 12, 2016 8:41 p.m.

    She quotes Mormon and Republican leaders ad writes of her commonalities with Utah but is not going to rule as she campaigns just as obama did. IMO

    Right out of her mentor Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals-search online those words.

    Rule 2, "Never go outside the experience of your people (or the ones you are fooling?)
    A mockery of our culture since she is not for what she says. Not getting into the sleaze throwing, look at Pence who will replace trump if he turns out a disaster vs Kaine who will
    replace a very sick Hillary.

  • D. Charles Pyle Heber City, UT
    Sept. 3, 2016 10:50 a.m.

    No way I could ever support Hillary. She has been extremely careless with national security, and not only has been extremely careless, she indeed lied about passing classified and sensitive data through an insecure, private server, and it now is known that a hacker did get access to that information. We know it because the guy who did it has just been arrested and charged with the crime!

    Worse, Hillary claimed that she couldn't recall half of the mandatory training sessions on the handling of sensitive data and blamed that forgetfulness on her concussion (any concussion that would cause that level of forgetfulness also would cause permanent brain damage; another thing she claims her doctor claims she doesn't have).

    And, we now know she lied about that, too! She never attended any of the sessions! Not one record or certification of her having attended any training session on classified and sensitive information exists! So, she skirted the rules, endangered military and intelligence assets on the ground, and has been lying about it the whole time!

    No, Ms. Representative from California! Anyone but Hillary! The country is safer without her.

  • lifes good wallace, CA
    Aug. 15, 2016 7:37 p.m.

    We stayed in Utah for 5 months due to a work commitment. The atmosphere there was so positive and forward thinking. Compared to Democratic California, it was a breath of fresh air. With that being said, I know that many of you are supporting other candidates other than Trump. Do you not find it odd that Hillary and Obama are quick to defend the Moslem community. The play Book of Mormon which made a mockery of our faith was not condemned nor even mentioned by this administration. This administration put an innocent person in jail for a Moslem video which was supposed to initiate the Benghazi attack. Any vote against Trump will support Hillary. She will shut down power and the coal industry and all the businesses that support it plus increase the percentage that small business pay. The Democrats have made this state into a third world country. She will appoint liberal judges that will turn over the 2nd amendment. Our leaders in Sacramento do not think it is important to build more dams but are spending money on the most foolish ideas.

  • Watchagonnado Draper, utah
    Aug. 15, 2016 4:47 p.m.

    Either we start getting behind Trump or we will end up with Hillary Clinton as the president. If she wins, it is not just four to eight years of Hillary, but a Supreme Court that will have an effect for generations. Our children and grandchildren will not have the America we have. Electing Hillary will end religious freedom as we know it.

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    Aug. 14, 2016 4:08 p.m.

    I, as a former Ted Cruz supporter, I enthusiastically support and will vote for Donald Trump! Pollsters, please call me!

    What a joke this editorial was! Who was her Mormon "ghost writer?" Come on, "Sister Wixom", etc. HRC doesn't know one thing about Mormons except that they can vote, and she will say and do anything to get a vote. This was a sham!

    You people who complain that you won't know what to tell your grandchildren if you vote for Trump, guess what? You're going to have to do some tall explaining when your Non-vote, vote for any 3rd party candidate, or stay home elects the most corrupt person in American politics, ban none. Trump is a thousand times better. I will hold all of you RINO's responsible for the downfall of this great country!

    This DN had two sections today both trashing Donald Trump. Since when do we need the headlines of a Washington Post reporter in Utah? I am totally sick of it. Donald Trump may be bold and brash, but he is a proven leader and will be great as POTUS.

    Trump-Pence 2016

  • conspiracygirl FPO, AE
    Aug. 13, 2016 7:55 p.m.

    Well, since we know that Hillary says whatever is expedient for the moment, and then changes her mind, and then forgets that she changed her mind so then denies that she ever changed her mind and then flatly lies that she ever meant anything but her current opinion of convenience, I think we can all just put Hillary's article in the bottom of the birdcage.

    Gary Johnson 2016

  • Contrariuses mid-state, TN
    Aug. 13, 2016 8:12 a.m.

    @Tekakaromatagi --

    "She received the endorsement earlier this year of the misnamed Human Right Campaign who are trying to restrict freedom of conscience. She could have repudiated their endorsement. She didn't do that either."

    For about the bazillionth time, religion is NOT an excuse for discrimination. Never has been, never will be.

    And there is absolutely no reason she *should* repudiate the HRC endorsement. They have done marvelous work towards equal rights for ALL citizens. I've contributed to them myself.

    Unlike The Donald, who initially refused to repudiate endorsements from David Duke and the KKK until he was shamed into it.

  • Tekakaromatagi Dammam, Saudi Arabia
    Aug. 12, 2016 9:38 p.m.

    I don't think that there is anything unethical with having a staffer write the opinion. This happens all the time. Presidents have speech writers.

    However, I am not convinced however that HRC means what was said. She could have given specific examples of how freedom of conscience is being suppressed in the US and she didn't. After giving those specific examples, she could have committed to have enforcement from the Justice department to protect freedom of conscience. She didn't do that either.

    She has earlier said that she is against religious freedom restoration acts (the same position as Jesse Helms, the now deceases ultra right wing senator from North Carolina). She could have announced that she has changed her position. She didn't.

    She received the endorsement earlier this year of the misnamed Human Right Campaign who are trying to restrict freedom of conscience. She could have repudiated their endorsement. She didn't do that either.

    It was a nice sounding piece. Nice talk, no substance.

  • roseparkT Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 12, 2016 6:32 p.m.

    She's untrustworthy. My friends, family and I are all voting for TRUMP!!

  • Global Warner Provo, UT
    Aug. 12, 2016 2:52 p.m.

    I’ve met and/or collaborated with Hillary at times over the years, mostly on microfinance & the empowering of women globally. I’ve used her book, “It Takes a Village to Raise a Child” in teaching my BYU MBAs over the years, as well as in Gospel Doctrine classes at church. Her work to help girls & women has had amazing benefits around the world. I know LDS leaders of all political parties, including many leftists in wards & stakes globally. We’ve not had a perfect U.S. president yet. Single-issue Mormons howl about leftist candidates all the time, but overlook the “huugge” weaknesses of every single Republican leader in American history. The reality is we have to study, pray, discuss, & actually THINK before voting. Hillary didn’t say everything some people might want, but I thought she nicely emphasized our values about children, families, & religious freedom. Of course, Hillary Haters despise the fact that she comes off bright, compassionate, & a leader. But to many in my state, my ward, & my LDS stake, her Op-ed was a breath of fresh air. Hopefully, thoughtful Mormons, Catholics, & Utahns of other faiths will support the best choice for 2016, "Stronger Together."

  • Liberal living on Planet Utah SLC, UT
    Aug. 12, 2016 11:48 a.m.

    @wrz & Alfred

    "If we continue to allow immigration from Muslim countries, what you say is true. We will have Shariah law here replacing our Constitution. That's their plan. We've got to fight against it. But, how? Trump seems to have the only workable solution... ban immigration from Muslim countries. But, of course, Clinton accuses him of violating the 1st Amendment of freedom of religion. Our government representatives should be concerned about religions that work against freedoms in America."

    "Trump's ban would help assure that Islam and Shariah law does not replace our US Constitution. In Muslim-dominated countries, Islam and Shariah law is the government. There is not separation of church and state. We can't have that happen in America regardless of the Constitution's guarantee of freedom of religion. In Islam-dominated countries, no other religion is allowed to flourish. There is no freedom of religion. We can't let that happen here."

    Extremist, delusional, far right propaganda parroting Faux News and wing nut radio sadly speaks for itself. Please remove the tin-foil hats. Turn off the radio and change the channel to an actual credible news source and begin practicing...Welcome Madam President!

  • Never Mind Provo, UT
    Aug. 12, 2016 8:39 a.m.

    "Let's be honest", she said.
    The only possible action after saying that is dropping Politics and getting a real job.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    Aug. 12, 2016 7:38 a.m.

    @s sev 6:19 p.m. Aug. 11, 2016

    "I've been fighting to defend religious freedom for years."

    Clinton is no friend of religious freedom. She has opposed Donald Trump's commitment to signing the First Amendment Defense Act, which would, according to Clinton, "permit taxpayer-funded discrimination by those who cite religion as a reason to deny services to LGBT people nationwide."


    Citing religion as a reason to deny services to LGBT people nationwide is not, in any way, religious "freedom" -- that's religion-based tyranny. I commend Ms. Clinton for working to defend religious freedom and work against religion-based tyranny, and condemn Donnie for wanting to do the opposite.

  • One opinion west jordan, UT
    Aug. 11, 2016 6:38 p.m.

    Oh my word, how gullible does she think we are? So many people I talk to don't want to vote for either Republican or Democrat. So many turned out last night for Evan McMullin, someone who is a very refreshing person - he has seen it all from the CIA side which is a great advantage in politics. I know it is late in the game - but not an impossibility! He has been working in Washington DC as the Chief Policy Director for the House's Republican Conference - AND he knows the importance of using protected email servers!! Who in the world doesn't??

  • Tumbleweed Centerville, UT
    Aug. 11, 2016 6:26 p.m.

    You mean like she defends the Second Amendment?

  • ssev Maple Grove, MN
    Aug. 11, 2016 6:19 p.m.

    "I’ve been fighting to defend religious freedom for years."

    Clinton is no friend of religious freedom. She has opposed Donald Trump's commitment to signing the First Amendment Defense Act, which would, according to Clinton, "permit taxpayer-funded discrimination by those who cite religion as a reason to deny services to LGBT people nationwide."

  • christoph Brigham City, UT
    Aug. 11, 2016 6:03 p.m.

    In the 19th Century, money was everything, and since LDS didn't have it, we suffered; today the left wants to reverse course and punish those who work and have money. I have nothing against Mrs. Clinton, just her party. She will be better than Bernie, we dodged a bullet with his return to Vermont.

  • let's roll LEHI, UT
    Aug. 11, 2016 5:32 p.m.

    @Gary O

    So is the decision to prohibit someone from entering the temple to witness their son or daughter's marriage is religious oppression?

    If a Bishop refuses to perform a wedding for a same sex couple is that religious oppression?

    If a caterer decides not to cater a same sex wedding is that religious oppression?

    If you don't believe all three of these are religious oppression, what are the differentiating factors?

    Unless you are proposing to give no credence to the Constitutional right of the free exercise of religion (and exercise certainly connotes action as well as belief) then that right must necessarily prevail in many instances over what others may consider their rights.

    Thus your idea that any religious practice which is contrary to what someone considers to be their right is religious oppression is at best overly simplistic and certainly not legally sustainable.

  • twspears6007 Bakersfield, CA
    Aug. 11, 2016 5:21 p.m.

    Hillary Clinton's letter to Deseret News is highly speculative but they print it anyway. When I reply to her letter my comments were ruled to speculative and Deseret News refused to print it. Seems unfair or can I say that? Trenton Spears

  • Marigold Provo, UT
    Aug. 11, 2016 5:09 p.m.

    May I recommend the article by Alexandra DeSanctis dated August 11, 2016 titled: "Hillary Clinton Is No Champion of Religious Freedom"? You can Google the article or go directly to National Review. Clinton and her colleagues are trying everything in their power to win the presidency. Why? Because they are so passionate about America? Maybe, they are only passionate about lining their pockets and making good on buying influence for which many have already spent millions...An informed citizenry is important, especially in this election cycle. Reading media outlets of all stripes is important. You might also want to Google today's news that the Department of Justice nixed an investigation into the Clinton Foundation--orders coming from the top. Both Clinton and Trump have feet of clay. Some of us do, too...

  • let's roll LEHI, UT
    Aug. 11, 2016 5:01 p.m.

    Of course this is pandering...campaigning is, essentially, the art of pandering unless you're really a leader and leaders don't seem to be successful in politics...perhaps because they don't believe in pandering.

    That said, one can at least credit the letter for pandering with reasonable words to those holding reasonable views.

    The other candidate seems obsessed with pandering with crazy, or dangerous, ideas to the lunatic fringe.

  • JoeCapitalist2 Orem, UT
    Aug. 11, 2016 4:38 p.m.

    elarue53078: "While I am happy to see any attempt to break the Mormon voting bloc away from the Republican party..."

    That is easy. Just get the Democrats to start supporting positions that actually appeal to Mormons instead of being firmly in the camp that supports just about everything we are against.

  • christoph Brigham City, UT
    Aug. 11, 2016 4:04 p.m.

    Talk is cheap, let's see how the Supreme Court continues to act in near future with law suit nation. I wish she had mentioned Utah's red hot economy and how conservative principles is the reason for the prosperity.

  • Vermonter Plymouth, MI
    Aug. 11, 2016 3:51 p.m.

    While the Hillary opinion piece is quick to say I am with the Mormons and I embrace quotes and ideas from many prominent Mormons, it lacks notation of any significant thing that Hillary has done for Mormons, or that the majority of Mormons would agree with.

  • Vermonter Plymouth, MI
    Aug. 11, 2016 3:45 p.m.

    Here's the interesting part to me. The fact that the Clinton team took the time to reach out to Mormons in Utah is not just an indication that they think they can win Utah. It is also an indication that they see an opening and think they may need to win Utah and Idaho and Arizona to win the election overall.

    Also, anybody that believes Hillary wrote this is wrong. I do note the cleverness of the ghost writer in leaving out the "B" in President Hinckley's name, and the "S" in President Monson's name making it seem like Hillary is writing it. However, the "B" and the "S" appears be included elsewhere between the lines.

  • JoeCapitalist2 Orem, UT
    Aug. 11, 2016 3:35 p.m.

    kiddsport: '"And let's be honest..." Wouldn't that be refreshing?'

    Refreshing indeed! A little honesty is needed from all sides.

    #1 The candidates themselves
    #2 The candidates' campaigns
    #3 The media
    #4 The candidates' supporters
    #5 The candidates' critics

    But it is campaign season so I am not expecting a lot of honesty from any of those groups.

  • Democrat Provo, UT
    Aug. 11, 2016 3:28 p.m.

    Re: RRB:

    Mrs. Clinton never said Christian's must change their views about abortions. Snopes debunked that one (google it) and there is even a begrudging article from the conservative National Review.

    Hillary is a Christian, quotes from the Sermon on the Mount, was mentored by her Methodist pastor as a youth and has visited Utah many times. In one of her books she talks about having a Mormon FHE as First Lady of Arkansas. The reason so many people are surprised/incredulous about this recent article is because they don't really know the woman. But how could they when they have only heard about her from Rush Limbaugh or similar sources for 24 years?

    As Mitt Romney could tell you, Presidential politics are a snake pit. Nobody thought Hillary, Bill, Mitt or GW were crooks or evil people before they ran for Presidential office. But once you get at that level, half the country is ready to believe the worst things about you.

  • JoeCapitalist2 Orem, UT
    Aug. 11, 2016 3:24 p.m.

    I am surprised that she didn't tell everyone that she is taking the missionary discussions.

    She will do or say just about anything to try and attract voters. I know that candidates are supposed to do things like that, but some will respect the truth enough to draw the line somewhere.

    Given her track record with honesty, I wonder if there exists some line that she will not cross. Why anyone would believe anything she says is beyond me.

  • voiceofreason1234 SANDY, TX
    Aug. 11, 2016 3:01 p.m.

    Hillary for Prison 2016 !!

  • rbowman838 Pueblo, CO
    Aug. 11, 2016 1:41 p.m.

    Let's us get warm and fuzzy about Hillary Clinton as our President, we just can't ignore her record about her first time in the White House. Many people such as ex Secret Service officers and staffers, who had to live with and serve the Clintons, have described her as certainly someone who is rude, hateful, crass, and many more dis-functional behaviors. I have read recently read two books, from ex- secret service officers, which has made me decide I could never vote for her. My brother recently saw the movie, HILLARY CLINTON'S AMERICA. I have not yet seen the movie, but I have started to read the book. No way I will vote for this woman. Donald Trump, as bad as he has been portrayed is still a better choice than she is. We missed our chance to elect a very good man the last election. As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, her attempt to woo the Mormon vote, falls on true hypocrisy. Please Brothers and Sisters, fast and pray, then study her record before you vote for her. She doesn't care about anybody but herself!!!

  • elarue53078 Chandler, AZ
    Aug. 11, 2016 12:34 p.m.

    While I am happy to see any attempt to break the Mormon voting bloc away from the Republican party, given that this is the neocon Hillary, it seems like a feeble attempt to appeal to conservatives because she knows she's already lost liberals.

  • blackattack Orem, UT
    Aug. 11, 2016 11:56 a.m.

    I agree with several of the commenters. It came across as complete pandering and lacking authenticity. I am sure a staff member wrote it, as all political campaigns do, but it was a diarrhea of quotes from mormon leaders and American founders to appeal to the audience.

    After reading it, it seems she doesn't understand the difference between freedom of worship and freedom of religion. I believe she would be a strong proponent of limiting religious freedom, such as when a business owner must violate their conscience and deeply held beliefs to support an abortion or gay marriage.

    I think Gary Johnson's op-ed was much better written (having your campaign headquarters in SLC was probably a huge asset in understanding the audience). What I will say is that I like Hillary more than Trump but not by a lot. I won't be voting for either of them.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    Aug. 11, 2016 11:51 a.m.

    Hey Sandie -

    "The problem is that Hillary doesn't even know what 'religious freedom' means."

    It's more likely that you don't know what religious freedom means.

    When your religion has the freedom to trample MY rights and the rights of others, that is not religious freedom.

    That is religious oppression.

    Did that help?

  • valkyrie556 Lafayette, IN
    Aug. 11, 2016 11:50 a.m.

    Hearing Hillary quote church leaders makes my skin crawl and puts me into dry heaves. How can the worst criminal candidate in history claim to have any shared values with the church. She is the epitome of everything Ezra Taft Benson and others strongly warned us about. Beyond all the scandals, she is a socialist, communist, and supporter/admirer of Margaret Sanger and the slaughter of millions of babies. There has never been a candidate further from the principles of agency, freedom, chastity, charity, honesty, and virtue. She will be the realization of the worst times in the history of our country, even its downfall and the time of cleansing. The only thing she has in common with our religion is in representing the evil that stands in opposition to good.

  • ConservativeUtahisBest Murray, UT
    Aug. 11, 2016 10:04 a.m.


    Trump doesn't represent LDS values. He is a greedy guy who is only in it for himself. Clinton on the other hand has proven she is willing to say anything to get votes (example: Her stance on marriage in 2008 was it should be between a man and a women and her stance in 2016 is as long as people love each other). Clinton is a liar and carelessly handles sensitive information. She is not fit for president and neither is Trump, people should start looking at other candidates like the Constitution party's candidate.

  • RG Buena Vista, VA
    Aug. 11, 2016 10:01 a.m.

    @ Corby: You worry that a lot of those opposed to Hillary are cynical. I’m sorry, you are right; but that cynicism is well deserved, and comes from years of watching Hillary.

    @ LDS liberal. “So, they resort to:

    Personal attacks on her,
    name calling,
    fabricated [and regurgitated] lies”

    No, we’re only looking at her very well-documented history, clear back from the 1980s. I’d suggest that everyone learn it.

    @ Prometheus Platypus: Hillary is very guilty. She’s pulled the wool over the eyes of many, with the help of a vast left-wing conspiracy and the media.

    @Baccus0902 “So much hate and judgment against one person who has never been proved guilty.” Maybe not officially, but the evidence of her guilt on numerous scandals is overwhelming. Comey was clear that he, personally, found her guilty on the email scandal, but just decided not to prosecute.

    @ John Lorz “Such shallow commentary: "Did she write it?" Good point. The better question, is, does she actually believe it? I’d give anyone the benefit of the doubt on this, unless I knew from previous experiences that she is prone to lying.

  • RG Buena Vista, VA
    Aug. 11, 2016 9:56 a.m.

    @ Tyler D
    “Unemployment rate below 5%” The official rate is a lie. It doesn’t count those who gave up. The real rate is much, much higher. (But yes, I’m sure GOP presidents use the same lying statistic.)

    “Virtual energy independence” The best thing we’ve done for energy independence is fracking, strongly opposed by the administration and the Democratic party. Also drilling is up, but in spite of Obama, not because of him.

    “No major terrorist attacks on homeland” I guess San Bernardino and Orlando were not as “major” as some attacks have been. But that’s small comfort to the victims’ families.

    How about adding these to your list: The IRS illegally targeting conservatives? The Obamacare rollout? The Obamacare results? (deductibles so high the insurance is practically useless, you can keep your doctor was a lie.) The VA scandal that Obama promised to clean up clear back in 2007? The racial divide widening, with Obama wedging them apart with his rhetoric? The mess Hillary caused in Libya? The national debt at stratospheric levels? (Obama adding to it more than all previous presidents combined.)

  • ulvegaard Medical Lake, Washington
    Aug. 11, 2016 9:41 a.m.

    Last year, Ms. Clinton, in a speech promoting abortion and LGBT rights indicated that one of the elements in society which seemed to be working against these ideals was religion and stated that people would need to substantially change their beliefs. When I heard her speak those words, I got the distinct feeling that she might support religious freedom, but only as long as it supported abortion.

  • casual observer Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 11, 2016 9:39 a.m.

    You can have complete freedom of religious thought, just don't let it influence your life.

  • SLCMom Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 11, 2016 9:16 a.m.

    Well played Hillary. Well played.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Aug. 11, 2016 9:00 a.m.

    The moderators got me again for a reference to an aquatic animal.

    This was a masterful political move to publish this Op Ed that was most likely not written by her. The problem is, she has made too many other statements over the years that contradict and conflict what is said in this Op Ed. But to kind of quote Jeffrey Holland (sorry to Elder Holland for this), "you get credit for trying."

    I doubt that this Op Ed will change any minds. Hillary is still Hillary. Her interest is totally in herself, her friends and taking advantage of the power that she will have if she gets elected.

    Everything with Hillary is a political calculation. Always has been. Always will be.

    Did I mention Trump? Nope. Am I voting for Trump? Nope. I'm hoping Trump totally implodes and the Republicans draft Mitt to come to the rescue. It's nice to dream.

    The next four years will be interesting.

    I'm not voting for Johnson either.

  • VigilanteCaregiver Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 11, 2016 7:42 a.m.

    Making quotes does not mean she believes it herself. It's just words.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Aug. 11, 2016 6:56 a.m.

    The haters are going to hate. But I think this is a nice outreach to Utahns and Church members. If nothing else, someone did some research. How about Trump? How does he reflect Utah and LDS values? I can't wait to see people twist themselves into pretzels in rationalizing Trump.

  • Tyler D Prescott, AZ
    Aug. 11, 2016 6:11 a.m.

    @Hoosier87 – “I think facts can sometimes be inconvenient things:”

    Yes they are and I noticed you did not dispute any of mine (which are all stats Republicans love to trumpet unless they’re not in power).

    As to your facts, let’s look at them:

    Labor participation rate is largely a function of retiring baby boomers, more women choosing to be stay-at-home moms, and more kids going to college.

    The poverty stats are exactly what we would expect from the Great (Republican) Recession and their long term adherence to trickle-down economics.

    And exploding debt is also what you get when Republicans cut taxes and then cause the worst economic downturn in almost a century.

    Do you really think Obama would have turned the Clinton surplus into the mountain of red ink we have today?

    Now, would you like to talk about the facts I presented (since I addressed yours) or should I consider your silence as total agreement?

  • Gemini Australia, 00
    Aug. 11, 2016 3:28 a.m.

    Am I the only one here who sees that she is sucking up to the Utah votes?

  • setaf Rome, PA
    Aug. 11, 2016 2:57 a.m.

    Scandal after scandal after scandal. She can say anything she wants, but actions speak louder than words and in that manner she is loud and clear. You couldn't pay me enough to vote for her and that doesn't even take into account where she stands on most issues. And no, a Trump vote is doubtful also.

  • RichardB Murray, UT
    Aug. 11, 2016 12:14 a.m.

    As far as the temporary ban: Carter banned Iranians while President. Citing the Alien and Sedition Acts as precedence, FDR restricted the entry and naturalization of Japanese, Germans, and Italians respectively. Obama has restricted Christians from Syria.

    Section 212(f) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 states: “Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.”

    George W Bush barred for entry included members of the Mugabe government in Zimbabwe and the Lukashenka government in Belarus. Clinton banned entry for members of the Haitian military, their immediate families, any major participants in the coup d’état of 1991. Ronald Reagan that suspended entry of officers and employees of the Nicaraguan government.

  • RichardB Murray, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 11:44 p.m.

    LDS Liberal

    If you had read his list, you would not be asking that.

  • burbanite SLC, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 10:40 p.m.

    It more than disturbs me that Mrs. Clinton just blatantly lied to our faces and somehow assumes that we wouldn't notice because she has suddenly become the Mormons "new best friend and savior". For someone who spends every waking minute actively and systematically breaking down the Constitution she has some nerve telling us that she will protect it.

    Mrs. Clinton, your actions are in direct opposition to your hollow words.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 10:04 p.m.

    As I recall --

    Donald Trump will not select Judges based on qualifications,
    but rather by race and ethnicity...

  • Alfred Provo, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 9:57 p.m.

    "Trump’s Muslim ban would undo centuries of American tradition and values."

    Trump's ban would help assure that Islam and Shariah law does not replace our US Constitution. In Muslim-dominated countries, Islam and Shariah law is the government. There is not separation of church and state. We can't have that happen in America regardless of the Constitution's guarantee of freedom of religion. In Islam-dominated countries, no other religion is allowed to flourish. There is no freedom of religion. We can't let that happen here. Trump's position is what will keep it from happening.

    "To this day, I wonder if he even understands the implications of his proposal."

    He understands it perfectly well. The person that doesn't understand is Hillary Clinton. She would sell our country down the river just to get elected.

  • xert Santa Monica, CA
    Aug. 10, 2016 9:53 p.m.

    She speaks to Mormon people without pandering and is willing to Speak to them as adults. No screaming, no hatred, no fear mongering, no childish insults. I don't always agree with her, but I truly respect her. I want an adult as my President. I couldn't look my kids in the eyes and say that I honestly think Donald Trump is fit to step foot in our White House. I'm with her.

  • wrz Provo, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 9:42 p.m.

    @What in Tucket?:
    "The record of Islam in Europe is not so good."

    It's not good in America, either.

    "Oslo police say Oslo is lost to the Muslims and not safe to walk there. Sharia law is required by a good Muslim and we will have that here too."

    If we continue to allow immigration from Muslim countries, what you say is true. We will have Shariah law here replacing our Constitution. That's their plan. We've got to fight against it. But, how? Trump seems to have the only workable solution... ban immigration from Muslim countries. But, of course, Clinton accuses him of violating the 1st Amendment of freedom of religion. Our government representatives should be concerned about religions that work against freedoms in America. That would be Trump. And, for sure, not Hillary.

    @Open Minded Mormon:
    "We'll watch as the rush of mindless PERSONAL attacks against Secretary Clinton,
    without s single rebuttal to ANYTHING she actually said."

    Her speech is nothing but meaningless gobble-ed-gook. She has developed the capability to speak and say absolutely nothing.

  • comments4us Brigham City, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 9:41 p.m.

    Good grief what pandering. There are actually people out there gullible enough to fall for her? She'll only allow freedom if your religion looks to the government instead of God for how and what to value (except Muslims of course). She supports more government interference with decisions in childhood education and health, and the replacement of parental influence, so for religions that value family then that's out the window. She has a horrendous record for women's rights, from defending her husband's actions to the way she defended rapists, accusing rape victims as young as 12 of being liars. Her support of abortion is even further proof that she does not value women. She does not have a religious bone in her body, and her lying, corrupt, irresponsible, treasonous selling out of our country to foreign governments spells doom for our country if she gets elected. She's already promised to put Justices on the Supreme Court who will restrict both religion and gun rights that our fore fathers gave us. Trump has shown more patriotism, respect for our military and police officers, more concern for regular Americans, and more concern for our national security. Go Trump!

  • John Lorz Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 9:18 p.m.

    Such shallow commentary: "Did she write it?"

    America is declining exactly because of the superficial insights of its citizens.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 9:15 p.m.

    Just one more carefully micro-targeted sales pitch to one of the hundreds of groups they are trying to fool into voting for Hillary. They do similar things appealing to Atheists, pro-abortion groups, the LGBT folks, and every other demographic.

    You can be sure that while Hillary Clinton's name appears on this, that not she, but one of the more than 800 campaign staff members wrote it.

    Even if it were Hillary's own words, we know from years of experience that she has a very difficult time being truthful about anything. So, why should we believe this? However, I am sure that it will fool some of the people, and thus help get her elected.

  • pkrtms american fork, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 9:15 p.m.

    She Has my vote and financial support. I will not vote for a candidate who is pretending to be pro life , but thinks his sister- who is pro-abortion - would be a good supreme court justice and wants his daughter in the cabinet. I don't trust him to nominate republican justices - he will pick ones who will support his tyranny- He doesn't stand for ANYONE but himself. Hillary is not perfect and has a lot of flaws, but she is not an unhinged toddler with no self control. given the choice between hillary and trump, it isn't even a question of who is qualified to deal with the world and the issues the USA has to deal with. Trump is categorically a disaster. I can only hope the GOP asks him to step down and puts up another candidate

  • Sanefan Wellsville, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 8:40 p.m.

    The moderator denied my last post because I quoted scripture. I'll never do that again. But those of you who see only two options and think voting for one is the least of two evils, there are other options. Do your homework and think outside the box.

  • GingerMarshall Brooklyn, OH
    Aug. 10, 2016 7:49 p.m.

    @NT: "What awful choices we have. For me, it boils down to one thing and one thing only: SCOTUS appointments. Period."

    And this alone is enough to vote for Clinton. Trump thinks judges sign bills, how in the world he would appoint a competent jurist is beyond me. Especially because many of the advisers he does seem to have our hard core religious right who are determined to turn this country into a theocracy.

    Clinton will appoint someone concerned about freedom and the constitution. Not someone who will turn to their religious teachings to come up with an opinion.

  • UtahBlueDevil Lehi Ut & Durham, NC
    Aug. 10, 2016 7:47 p.m.

    I don't understand how anyone thinks they are protecting their own religious freedoms by restricting others peoples ability to choose for themselves. I don't agree with gay marriage, but I surely get it that we don't ensure our own rights when we seek to limit other peoples rights, based on religious tenants of ones own personal faith. No one is forcing you to adopt a lifestyle that is not your own, nor renounce any religious beliefs.

    The core tenant of the LDS faith is we choose a plan where individuals were to have the right to choose right or wrong... not be coerced into a life that conformed. Using the law to demand conformity with religious beliefs is not what government should be used for.

  • One of Vai's Cousins DC, Washington
    Aug. 10, 2016 7:29 p.m.

    Of course she had help writing this letter. Every candidate has help with letters, speeches, etc. But she had to approve of the content and of responding to the DNews request in the first place. Yes, she is very savvy and very political. So is Romney, Huntsman, etc. But more importantly, she is actually prepared for the difficult job of being President. There is likely no one who has ever been more unprepared or potentially dangerous than Donald Trump. She may raise taxes on billionaires and appoint judges who lean left. But she will be a far, far better President in very important times than Donald Trump.

  • Oatmeal Woods Cross, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 6:45 p.m.

    So many attacks on Clinton... but America will seriously hold its breath if Donald Trump ever sits in the Oval Office. Utah voters need to put their partisanship aside and help sweep Donald the Demagogue aside, rebuild the Republican party and then put someone against Clinton who is a patriot. But this election needs to end with Trump retired from politics.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 6:35 p.m.


    Wouldn't it be interesting to find out who wrote her speech? The first time I recall such happening was when JFK spoke in the Tabernacle and praised the Mormon Pioneers. Have you ever heard her before say it takes a "ward" to raise someone? It's pretty obvious she is pandering for votes with the quotes she's sharing. And suddenly Mitt Romney knows what he is talking about since he criticized Trump, huh? Can you not see right through this....?

  • Hoosier87 American Fork, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 6:30 p.m.

    @Tyler D

    I think facts can sometimes be inconvenient things:

    Labor-Force-Participation rate: 65.7% (Bush) 62.8% (Obama)
    Blacks Only: 63.2% (Bush) 60.9% (Obama)

    Poverty: 14.3% (Bush) 15% (Obama)
    Blacks only: 25.8% (Bush) 27.2% (Obama)

    Median Income: $53,285 (Bush) $51,017 (Obama)
    Blacks Only: $34,880 (Bush) $33,321 (Obama)

    Food Stamps: 32,889,000 (Bush) 46,022,000 (Obama)
    Blacks Only: 7,393,000 (Bush) 10,955,000 (Obama)

    Home Ownership: 67.3% (Bush) 64.8% (Obama)
    Blacks Only: 46.1% (Bush) 43.3% (Obama)

    $20 Trillion in debt
    Isis is spreading throughout the world
    Race Relations are at an all time low (Cop shootings, etc...)

    I'm not sure using any metric can you claim Obama has been a good President. As I said before, Democratic policies lead to chaos and a complete mess!

    Aug. 10, 2016 6:16 p.m.

    In a speech last year, Hillary Clinton lamented that too many women are supposedly denied abortions. The Democratic presidential candidate came under fire for that pro-abortion comment, but she also drew widespread condemnation for another remark in the speech.

    "Christians must be forced to change their religious views to accommodate abortions."

    “Far too many women are still denied critical access to reproductive health care and safe childbirth. All the laws we’ve passed don’t count for much if they’re not enforced,” Clinton said, using the euphemism for abortion.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 6:15 p.m.

    When will Trump write a letter on this issue?

  • Baccus0902 Leesburg, VA
    Aug. 10, 2016 6:07 p.m.

    Wow! So much hate and judgment against one person who has never been proved guilty.

    To my brothers and sisters in Utah who don't believe HRC wrote or approved this op-ed:

    1.- In a well organized campaign NO document bearing the candidate's name is allowed to go to the press without the approval of the candidate i.e. HRC

    2.- Ms. Clinton didn't need to answer to the Deseret News' request. After all the DNC does not expect to win Utah in November.

    3.- I would say that chances are that the staffer who wrote the letter is an LDS who took pleasure in attempting to correct the record of Ms. Clinton among his/her fellow Mormons.

    4.- I would say that chances are that the staffer who wrote the letter is an LDS who took pleasure in teaching Ms. Clinton about Utah and LDS Church history.

    5.- I find this letter to be a sign of respect toward the people of Utah and an acknowledgment of the shared values we have.

    @ SameJersey -
    The maturity of your comments give me hope that my Utah's brothers and sisters are capable to evolve and look at the bigger picture.

  • Rufus63 St. George, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 5:19 p.m.

    I think Clinton, like all polliticians will say what she wants you to hear. When talking to Utahans she will say what the majority of people in this state want to hear. Does that mean she believes or follows what she says? You be the judge. Anyone can say the right things. By there fruits you will know them. Trump on the other hand is a big question.

  • azscouter Mesa, AZ
    Aug. 10, 2016 5:12 p.m.

    All this shows to me is that Hillary Clinton is great at pandering. I do not believe a word she says. She will protect religious liberty in the same way that Obama protected traditional families. It is all a lie to get elected. Duh!

    Aug. 10, 2016 5:05 p.m.

    Hillary "made belittling remarks about religious liberty, particularly in the context of Kentucky county clerk Kim Davis and Indiana’s Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA). This is particularly ironic, since it was Hillary’s husband, Bill Clinton, who signed a federal RFRA into law back in the 1990s, when gay rights weren’t as fashionable as they are today. What’s more, candidate Clinton’s rhetoric went to great lengths to paint anyone who disagrees with the morality of the LGBT worldview as being beneath the threshold of respect." From the National Review. October 5 2015

  • RJohnson Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 5:01 p.m.


    "She says what she thinks her audience wants to hear."

    Yup, that's what politicians do at campaign time. Who would vote for someone saying things you DON'T want to hear?

    Aug. 10, 2016 4:59 p.m.

    Here's the deal. Hillary didn't write this article, a staff member did. I'll bet she hasn't even read it. Hillary will do what ever it takes to get elected. She is terrified that a Trump justice department will not cover up her criminal activities like Obama's department has.

    As a member of the LDS church, I will not vote for this woman. The church teaches honestly and being law-abiding. Hillary has proven time and time again that she is otherwise.

  • sandieg0b0y Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 4:54 p.m.

    This article is hilarious.

    The problem is that Hillary doesn't even know what "religious freedom" means. In her mind, it is allowing religious people to "believe" what they want. But try and act on those beliefs (at the core of religion) when they come in conflict with her social agenda, and guaranteed she will be the first to slap us in the face and turn her back on all of her professed support for "religious freedom."

    It's a joke, really.

    It's rich hearing someone like her try and preach support for religious minorities and list off the names of a few latter-day prophets considering she was a big fan of 'The Book of Mormon' play on Broadway which mocks the Mormon religion and espouses religious hatred.

    Her typical hypocrisy is on full display here.

  • SEC Rules Seminole, FL
    Aug. 10, 2016 4:47 p.m.

    If she can get BYU into the Big 12 then I'll vote for her.

  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 4:11 p.m.

    The purpose of religion is to control the minds and bodies of people. It’s much easier than military conquest; all you have to have is a good story about life after death. Other than its improvable gospel organized religion is simply a business operation.

    Their product is the peace of mind that comes with believing the story. Of all the fears and difficulties of human existence the fear of death is the greatest. Few people would choose to die rather than endure the worst that life imposes.

    It is unlikely that any politician would be truly religious, but smart politicians go along with the qualities that the people want them to have.

  • Prometheus Platypus Orem, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 4:04 p.m.

    The hate runs deep in Utah.

    Strange since so many expressing their hatred, and mistrust, tell us how religious they are on every post, yet they don't say things that align with their professed beliefs, and some present outright lies that have been rebutted dozens of times, that seems odd. The 10 commandments talk about gossip and lies, but doesn't mention gay, and they don't see those commandments as important for some reason.

    The "she didn't write it" is totally a pathetic excuse, also just a right wing rumor, or bearing false witness for the religious.

    It wouldn't matter how nice she was, or what she said, they have been told that she is evil and they will repeat it ad nauseam, never mind facts or the truth.

    A wise commenter said on these pages...

    For 25 years Republicans have mandated investigations and hearings focused on Clinton and have come up empty.
    We have three options:
    1. She's a better supervillain than Lex Luthor, Dr. Doom and Moriarity combined
    2. A quarter century of Republican investigators are so incompetent the could find a pig in a bathtub
    3. She's not guilty.

  • kimnprovo Orem, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 3:55 p.m.

    She may have done okay, until she pulled in a very tiny quote from Sister Wixom.

    Didn't change my mind from Johnson.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 3:25 p.m.

    Costa Mesa, CA
    12:56 p.m.

    RE: "In 1966 the Dean of Men at BYU summoned me to his private office where he called me "the antichrist" to my face"...
    Wait a minute... you're telling us the Dean said you are the anti-christ... and you want us to listen to you and follow your advice?


    RE: "Some time later the statue was removed from the Quad"...
    The statue of Brigham Young is still there on the quad BTW. I think you may have a creative memory of those days. It was never removed from the quad.

    Don't believe me... Google "Images for byu quad statue"... It's still there. It wasn't removed.

    But I do agree we should not vote based on dogma, and stereotypes. Even Democrat dogma.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 2:52 p.m.

    Publish her letter to the Oregonian or SF Chronicle. I'm sure it would contradict most of everything she put in here.

  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 2:50 p.m.

    It appears Mrs. Bill and her minions are now writing comedy.

    Sadly, we've LEARNED from the Obama administration that their "word" is good for - well, NOTHING.

    "If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor"

    "there's not a smidgen of corruption here"

    "the Benghazi embassy attacks were caused by an American cartoonist gone rogue"

    Should I continue??

    For basically EVERYONE in the democratic party, sadly, the end ALWAYS justifies the means.
    In this case it is propaganda to get Mrs. Bill elected.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 2:47 p.m.

    "I will defend .... I mean ...defeat religious freedom"

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 2:36 p.m.

    Let's see --
    The uber-far-right-wing can't dispute a single word in the letter Sec. Clinton wrote to the citizens of Utah --

    So, they resorts to:

    Personal attacks on her,
    name calling,
    fabricated [and regurgitated] lies,
    Conspiracy Theories

    No wonder Donald Trump has so many supporters here,
    they are just like HIM !...

    Sadder still, many of them are Latter-Day Saints...

  • BWBinOregon Newberg, OR
    Aug. 10, 2016 2:34 p.m.

    She says what she thinks her audience wants to hear. I do not trust her.

  • NT SomewhereIn, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 2:32 p.m.


    "While I applaud the effort that it took for candidate Clinton to have one of her 700+ staffers write this op-ed piece, her undoing is her history."

    I would even go so far as to suggest that those who actually did write it for her were from Utah or had strong Utah ties.

    Hillary is pretty incredible.

    What awful choices we have. For me, it boils down to one thing and one thing only: SCOTUS appointments. Period.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 2:31 p.m.

    Yea, sure she will. Open minded, I read the article by the way.

  • antodav TAMPA, FL
    Aug. 10, 2016 2:25 p.m.

    Wow. This is a whole new level of pandering. Awkward…

  • NO TAX Draper, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 2:19 p.m.

    She agrees unless you own a gun

  • ChristopherDCunningham Webster, TX
    Aug. 10, 2016 2:16 p.m.

    I'm glad that Clinton reaffirms her belief in the freedom to worship. But it obviously concerns me that she equates freedom of religion to the narrower freedom to worship. The first amendment protects against any law that prohibits the free exercise of religion. To win over defenders of the first amendment, Clinton must affirm that Americans are free to exercise religion without being prohibited from engaging in commerce. As long as she wields the possibility that you can be prevented from earning a living unless you abandon your religious beliefs then freedom of religion will be merely a mirage.

  • nweb Box Elder County, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 2:07 p.m.

    It's a good letter- good at attacking Donald Trump and all the horrible things he's said and pulling at our heartstrings by making it personal by using quotes from LDS leaders. That's what 75% of the letter was. Only a paragraph or two on what Clinton herself has done. Nothing on what she really intends to do, other than 'protect religious freedoms'.

    How are you going to do that, Ms. Clinton? Are you going to quit supporting the LGBT, the most intolerant group toward religious freedoms? They target Christian businesses constantly, suing them out of business. Thomas Jefferson, when he penned the words she quotes, didn't mean that people are only allowed to practice their religion when government says it's okay to do so- he meant that people will ALWAYS be able to practice their religion, no matter where they are and that it is illegal to infringe on that right.

    And no matter how much she may say she supports religious liberty, as long as she supports abortion on demand at tax payer expense, she is not going to convince me that she is for religious freedom.

  • SameJersey Kaysville, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 2:02 p.m.

    She is very right about one thing...we need each other. The fact she is willing to essentially endorse statements made by current Republican politicians is at least somewhat telling she might be willing to cross the aisle and play nice with the other kids in the sandbox. Our nation is just too divided. No matter how misguided we feel the other side is, we really do NEED each other. In truth, there really is no OTHER side. We all wear the same jersey.

    Kudos to Senator Clinton for reminding us of this in a VERY divisive election year. Whether you decide to vote for her or not, you have to admit this was WELL PLAYED. Whether she means it or not (and I sincerely hope she did), this is exactly the type of speech Americans need to hear from a future leader.

    United we stand, divided we fall. As least she is promising to listen to the Utah and the Mormon contingent and recognize us as an important piece in the ongoing American Adventure. Again, this means more to me than anything I have heard from the right all campaign season. Who knows, she might actually take this state.

  • Tyler D Prescott, AZ
    Aug. 10, 2016 1:50 p.m.

    @Hoosier87 – “The record of Democrats running things (no matter where they are) is a dismal mess”

    This one continues to baffle. By what measure has the last 8 years been a “dismal mess” especially considering where we were when Obama assumed office?

    Stock Market at record high
    Unemployment rate below 5%
    Corporate profits through the roof
    Immigration down and deportations up
    Virtual energy independence
    No major terrorist attacks on homeland

    Listing these things right-wingers tend to care about most, if this had all happened under McCain or Romney the Right would be singing “Morning in America.”

    @Chris Barkdull – “Benghazi Lies”

    Fully granting this point (despite 8 Congressional committees finding no actionable fault) if “lies” are the troubling feature here, a Trump presidency should be the most disturbing reality you could fathom.

  • kait112 Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 1:30 p.m.

    Dear Hillary Clinton and campaign worker who wrote this,
    It seems to be common for politicians to pander to certain groups of voters like the major religion found in Utah, treating them like they're all the same, single-issue voters. I do belong to that religion, but I won't be supporting your candidate.

    I cannot support the blatant dishonesty and corruption exhibited by your candidate, including her well-documented lying. Also, most Mormons don't like her wholehearted support of Planned Parenthood. Many of us find that organization morally abhorrent and don't want our money to fund them. I fall into that category too. Contrary to many people in my faith, I also don't support your candidate's military action as Secretary of State in Libya and Syria or her past and current support of the death penalty, and no, I am not a Trump supporter. This just goes to show you, that people are unique and don't fit into a box - there is more nuance than you might think in the world. I will work hard to make sure that now and in the future that we have alternatives to the current, terrible candidates.

  • SameJersey Kaysville, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 1:25 p.m.

    As much as I hate to admit this, she just nailed it. Even if she really only believed half of what she said, she still nailed it. As a lifelong Mormon and an attorney, I am tired of constantly feeling like members of society don't really view us as being "American." Yes, our religion is different than others. Our culture and our perspective on life is also different. I am tired of having to explain ourselves to government elites that view us a being, at best, extremely odd and worthy of constant ridicule and, at worst, terrorists -- here is looking at you Gary Johnson.

    If Hilary means even half of what she says that she believes that Mormons along with peoples of all faiths have a future in mainstream American society as part of the whole, then that is better than anything I have heard from the right this entire campaign season.

    I am just tired of voting for candidates who, at best, pay only lip service to religious freedom. I am tired of supporting a republican party who can't, in turn, support the best candidate we have had for President in 50 years because he wears different underwear.

  • Daedalus, Stephen ARVADA, CO
    Aug. 10, 2016 1:23 p.m.

    As others have mentioned, it may well be that a campaign staffer wrote this, and even possible that Hillary did not personally read and sign-off on it. For argument's sake, let's assume that is true.

    Even the negative comments grudgingly acknowledge that this column hits a remarkable number of LDS high notes, woven together in a direct and coherent argument for voting for her over Trump. In short, an excellent work product, which reflects well on the campaign management, with Clinton sitting at the top. And for better or worse, both primary and presidential campaign operations are the one apples-to-apples comparison point for judging how a candidate will perform in managing the executive branch.

    Even if you assume this was written by a low-level campaign underling without Clinton's input or sign-off, that merely demonstrates the depth of talent with the campaign hierarchy and her confidence in her team. This foreshadows the talent who will fill lower levels of appointments.

  • Light and Liberty St. George/Washington, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 1:17 p.m.

    If anyone actually thinks Hillary penned this letter, let alone believes it, is not just delusional, but dangerously so. Are you serious? Hillary Clinton quoting LDS leaders as if she has been eating lunch with them every day and studying its doctrines for the past 50 years. Come on, people. I'll bet if anyone asked a follow up question like, "Have you ever heard of Thomas S. Monson?" she would probably say something like, "Yes, of course, wasn't he that famous baseball player that played with Babe Ruth?" Wow, come on. How naive can people be?

  • Chris Barkdull LEHI, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 1:16 p.m.


    Benghazi Lies
    Goldman Sachs Sold out to the Big Banks
    Private email server Lied, broke the law, and got away with it
    Dead bodies count the bodies that litter the past who got in the way of the Clintons
    Travelgate She thinks she is the queen, not a public servant
    Bosnia and Snipers selective imagination there were no snipers

    We could go on and on.. HRC is not fit to be our president and either is Donald Trump

  • Bruce T. Forbes Kearns, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 1:12 p.m.

    A well-written piece. I wonder who actually wrote it. But the closing statements proved it was all a bold-faced lie. She has never followed the Constitution and has fought fought for years to wrap it around her personal agenda. Too bad this essay ended with such a lie.

  • RedLegBandit West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 1:02 p.m.

    It's pretty comical to see all the liberals on here think that Mormons, who aren't dumb enough to fall for Trump's lies, are suddenly going to be fooled by Hillary's. It's not going to happen.

    The options here are to either vote for the lesser of two evils or go with a third-party. Hillary and Trump are both the worst possible candidates for President.

  • Vanceone Provo, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 1:02 p.m.

    Anyone else note that her cries for religious freedom were all about religious freedom for Islamics? Not a word about religious freedom for the rest of us. It was a letter demanding unlimited immigration, freedom for Muslims, and, coupled with her previous statements about forcing Christian churches to change their doctrines, not a single word in support of Mormon's freedom to not be forced by the government.

    It was a shell game. Democrats only support religious liberty for Muslims and the Islamic faith--they get to do whatever they want. Did Hillary commit to supporting religious liberty for Christians? Did she commit to defending us against predatory LGBT bigots? Nope! She just promised she would import millions more Muslims and work to make sure they get to obey whatever law they want.

    Nothing she said suggests she would stand up for Mormons or other Christians, in anything.

  • Open Minded Mormon Everett, 00
    Aug. 10, 2016 12:59 p.m.

    versus this quip from the Republican candidate:
    "Are you sure he's a Mormon?" ~ Donald Trump about Mitt Romney

  • corby Santa Clara, CA
    Aug. 10, 2016 12:58 p.m.

    The comments are interesting to read. A lot of readers objection to it is just a cynical "She didn't REALLY write this herself..." which isn't much of a rebuke. Even if she was just consulted on it, she still gave approval to sign her name to it. She is Hillary Clinton and she approves this message.

  • PensiveOne Costa Mesa, CA
    Aug. 10, 2016 12:56 p.m.

    In 1966 the Dean of Men at BYU summoned me to his private office where he called me "the antichrist" to my face. He did this because I had pointed out in the school paper -- then called The Cougar -- That Brigham Young had worn long hair and a beard.

    In those days Brigham's statue stood on the Quad in front of the Administration Building in direct sartorial opposition to the clean-cut look required of male students: a fact I noted in a sentence or two. Some time later the statue was removed from the Quad.

    I am not the antichrist but just a human being, now 69 years old. I write to urge my LDS sisters and brothers to approach the current election with humanity instead of with dogma. Humanity brings people together; dogma divides.

  • KSC Sandy, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 12:55 p.m.

    No matter what this op-ed piece says, we know at least two things:
    1 – Hillary Clinton did not take the time to write it. She has 700+ staffers who handle this type of request. This article is the product of a political machine which is intent on electing the candidate which will keep them in power - give them what they want.
    2 – Hillary Clinton has a near perfect track record of pandering by saying and doing whatever will progress her personal and political agenda. The bottom line is: It is impossible to believe anything which she says.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    Aug. 10, 2016 12:52 p.m.

    Did Hillary "nail it" as one poster told us, or did she show us that she, just like Master Mahan, would say anything and do anything to get power? When has she ever stood up for religious freedom? How many Christians in Mid-East parts of the world will ever tell us that "Hillary" stood up for them? How many will tell us that she did anything at anytime anywhere to make their lives safe? She is a politician. Those who believe her are going to treated just like everyone else who has believed her. By the way, what happened to Ron Brown, his lawyer and the 34 people who were on the same plane as Ron Brown? How about Admiral Borda or Bill Shelton or Kathy Ferguson or Ronald Rogers or Hersehell Friday or Ed Wiley or Luther Parks or Stanley Heard or John Walker or Vincent Foster or, or, or, or . . . the list goes on and on and on. Has there ever been another time in U.S. History when so many people directly associated with a political figure have "disappeared"?

    Aug. 10, 2016 12:39 p.m.

    Whether Hillary wrote this or not, it shows she is running an organization that is capable of understanding and reaching out to religious minorities. This is evidence of how her administration would govern.

  • Misty Mountain Kent, WA
    Aug. 10, 2016 12:28 p.m.

    @heavyhitter asks if Clinton thinks Utahns are gullible, one-issue voters, and then goes on to say that "we actually care..about protecting marriage and family and the sanctity of life".

    My personal opinion is that anyone who truly believes that anti-gay marriage legislation such as Amendment 3 did anything whatsoever to "protect" marriage is, yes, gullible.

    And anyone who supports turning down federal money to give insurance to low income people--knowing that some of them will die unnecessarily as a result-- does NOT believe in the sanctity of life.

    Lehi, UT
    Is this what Hillary Clinton thinks Utahns are--gullible one-issue ("religious freedom") voters? Utahns are a lot more sophisticated than that. Yes, religious freedom is important. But we also actually care about protecting our borders through lawful immigration, protecting marriage and family

  • jjjdsd CENTERVILLE, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 12:22 p.m.

    "if HC didn't write it, she did approve it" Don't get your hopes up. She tells all the time she didn't approve things that happened under her watch.

  • Just me. any town, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 12:13 p.m.

    How in the world would she know what any of the LDS leaders have said? She doesn't have any interest, or time to find out. Her staff writers have been very busy studying and writing what they hope the people of Utah want to hear. SAD that there are folks that will believe she wrote it and even that SHE believes it.

  • ninadawn Stillwater, OK
    Aug. 10, 2016 12:10 p.m.

    A presidential campaign actually cares enough about Mormon voters to write campaign for them! Has that happened in the past 50 years? Romney didn't need to bother trying to win Mormons. Republicans in general haven't needed to try since Ezra Taft Benson. Democrats haven't bothered. I think it is totally awesome that a presidential campaign cares enough about the Mormon vote to put resources towards winning a slice of it. It would be great if campaigns had to compete for Mormon voters instead of just sticking them in a Republican box and moving onto more fertile electoral ground.

  • small town granny any town, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 12:09 p.m.

    It would be impossible to believe she wrote this, let alone even saw it. It is not her!

  • Pragmatic Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 12:00 p.m.

    I am so greatful, and we are all so blessed, that in these troubled times, we have such an experienced and able leader to support. When the constitution is being compromised by far right groups, it's a blessing to have Mrs. Clinton's princples and leadership at this critcal time.

  • Abeille West Haven, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 11:59 a.m.

    bright angel -

    Whether HC wrote this letter or not, it was pretty impressive writing. Someone who knows detailed information about American History and the rise of the LDS Church wrote this. Even if HC didn't write it, she did approve it. Either way, it's a LOT more impressive than anything I've heard from DT.

  • Abeille West Haven, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 11:56 a.m.

    Gotta admit, I'm impressed! She took the time to write this letter specifically for the Utah audience, and she did it well.

  • DraperUteFan Draper, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 11:43 a.m.

    @What in Tucket,

    The irony is that many Muslims in Europe are converting to Christianity...in large numbers. I'm not suggesting in any way the situation has been handled correctly by the Secretary of State or the Obama Administration. I think they have a horrible track record frankly in dealing with Islamic terrorism.

    The point is many people who choose something better if it was available. Islam limits the choices of the poor and forces Islamic traditions, customs, marriages, and other required choices on their people. In Islam, the leaders are the ones to be feared and dealt with. I've known many Iranian's who came to the states to attend college. Not all people from the Middle East or have fled their country did so solely to create terrorist networks in Europe and eventually America.

    The government needs to deal with Islamic terrorism at its source, which is the leadership of ISIS, heads of Islamic states promoting anti-Western hatred, and their funding sources. The average Muslim refugee is no more a terrorist than anyone you know.

  • KathyInCache North Logan, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 11:40 a.m.

    Some staffer did a great job of writing this. Seriously, praise for Romney, Herbert, Huntsman, Jefferson, and Sister Wixom? Is she trying to convince us that she is a Republican?

  • Tyler D Prescott, AZ
    Aug. 10, 2016 11:36 a.m.

    Has anyone ever seen or heard such a good political argument that it caused you or someone you know to say “hey, that’s a good point” and then they changed their mind?

    Just curious…

    Perhaps if we can understand why this is apparently rare, we might gain some real insight into our political divide. A good place to start might be Federalist Paper #10 (on factions and their dangers to democracy).

    PS – how to create factions (hint: bypass the frontal lobe) is a whole other discussion, though we should note that certain media outlets have perfected it in ways not seen since the Nuremberg Rallies.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 11:32 a.m.

    So What in Tucket believes that religious freedom is only for christians?

    How republican of you, to deny others religious freedom based on the belief that only your religion is true, and should be protected?

  • Ballplayer Spanish Fork, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 11:32 a.m.

    Mrs. Clinton has good researchers and speechwriters. But she is still wrong in many ways. While she says she supports religious freedom, it appears she doesn't understand the true purpose of religion, at least not the way many LDS people in Utah understand it. To people who actively practice any specific religion, it's not about the freedom to attend whatever church we like and listen to whichever preacher we choose. It's about putting principles into practice in our lives after we learn them in church. For example, when a baker or photographer is forced to provide their service to a same-sex wedding, in spite of a deeply held religious belief that a marriage sanctioning such a union is contrary to God's will, their freedom of religion has not been protected. Mrs. Clinton's version of freedom of religion would not comfort these private citizens who are merely earning a living by plying a trade. If people can't practice what they hear preached, then religion is of no use to anyone. Those preaching tolerance to those who disagree with them need to extend that same tolerance.

  • dmcesq Stamford, CT
    Aug. 10, 2016 11:29 a.m.

    You are quite mistaken. A direct quote:
    "Yes, we've nearly closed the global gender gap in primary school, but secondary school remains out of reach
    for so many girls around the world.

    Yes, we've increased the number of countries prohibiting domestic violence, but still, more than half the nations in the world have no such laws on the books, and an estimated one in three women still experience violence.

    Yes, we've cut the maternal mortality rate in half, but far too many women are still denied critical access to reproductive health care and safe childbirth.

    All the laws we have don't count for much if they're not enforced. Rights have to exist in practice, not just on paper. Laws have to be backed up with resources and political will, and deep seated cultural codes, religious beliefs, and structural biases have to be changed."

    Do you care to apologize for your error?

  • bright angel sandy, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 11:18 a.m.

    Do any of you really think HC wrote this op-ed?

  • Hoosier87 American Fork, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 11:14 a.m.

    Wow -that is one scary politician!

    I'd consider that pandering. And I'm not sure she believes hardly a word in that letter.

    The record of Democrats running things (no matter where they are) is a dismal mess. She acts like we haven't had 8 years of Democrat leadership. Other than telling us how great religion is - because that's what she thinks we want to hear in Utah - what specifically are you going to do?

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Aug. 10, 2016 11:10 a.m.

    The comparison between this piece and the speech Donald Trump gave in Salt Lake City a few weeks back is stunning. One person does her homework, has something important to say, and doesn't condescend to her audience. The other starts out by insulting Mitt Romney, shouts "I LOVE the Mormons," and then gives his usual rambling remarks that address little of substance.

    Whatever you may think of her politics Hillary Clinton takes the people of Utah seriously while Donald Trump takes them granted.

    People nationwide are stunned that Trump is doing so poorly in Utah. They shouldn't be.

  • Tanguero Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 11:08 a.m.

    What in Tucket?
    Provo, UT

    "Her aide is Muslim and has ties to the Muslim brotherhood. If you are a Christian or any religious of any religion other than Islam one would fear Islam."

    You've been listening to too much Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, and Glenn Beck.

    So, do you believe in blood atonement? Do Christians have to fear your religion? And your understanding of Sharia Law is confused. Didn't you listen to Mr. Khan when he said that it was incompatible with the Constitution and would never find its way to the United States?

    You lose all credibility when you refer to the imaginings of the wingnut media and propagandists.

  • Traveller Farmington, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 11:01 a.m.

    Well I guess you can admire her (or, probably more accurately, her staff writer's) chutzpah, if that's your sort of thing. What the letter boils down to is "I'm less scary that Donald Trump on the issue of religious liberty," which MIGHT be true, but ignores a) the fact that she's still pretty scary on that issue and b) all the other problems most Utahns have with her.

    I wonder what her opinion on the LBGT move to shut-out BYU would be? My guess is she would support it, despite her stated "pro-religious freedom" stance here.

  • BartBurk OSCEOLA, IN
    Aug. 10, 2016 11:01 a.m.

    I wonder how Mrs. Clinton would feel about laws which would require Christians to cater events which conflict with their most basic religious beliefs? My guess is Mrs. Clinton believes in freedom of worship, not freedom of religion. She has said she believes Christians will have to give up their understanding of scripture with regards to women's rights and gay rights. What a fraud.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 10:59 a.m.

    I don't doubt Hillary Clinton will protect religious freedom and the Constitution. She hasn't promised anything that would limit religious freedom (that I've heard). Some of her followers would like to.... but I don't think SHE has a target on religious freedom. The biggest question is... who will she appoint to her cabinet, and the Supreme Court. It would most likely be those people (not her) who end up limiting religious freedom.

    I'm not really worried about religious freedom today. I don't feel threatened. President Obama hasn't done away with religious freedom (and he had people in his party pressuring him to do more, but he didn't listen to them). I think Hillary Clinton will do the same.

    It's pretty easy to ignore somebody in your base who says they want you to limit somebody else's religious freedom. Mainstream America (the majority) don't care about your religion. Minority anti-religion zealots want to limit your freedom. And it's pretty easy to ignore them and listen to the majority.

    Politicians tend to listen to the majority. And the majority don't want to do away with religious freedom.

  • wer South Jordan, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 10:51 a.m.

    First of all, like most career politicians, Hillary didn't write this piece. She probably didn't even see it. However, it's close enough to her usual methodology that it can pass muster. Which method is: say whatever it takes to get elected and don't let the facts get in the way.

  • KSC Sandy, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 10:47 a.m.

    While I applaud the effort that it took for candidate Clinton to have one of her 700+ staffers write this op-ed piece, her undoing is her history.

    Hillary Clinton has a life-long track record of trading her morals, her promises, her reputation, Arkansas, and even (possibly) her country, for personal gain: political and financial. Who knows what leverage (blackmail) is in the hands of the enemies of the USofA, that has been or will be used against Mrs. Clinton.

    I have studied the candidates and voted, without fail, for 4 decades and have never witnessed a more corrupt, untrustworthy, self-serving Presidential Candidate than Hillary Clinton. She will say anything and do anything for personal gain.
    Thus it is impossible to trust any word from her mouth, be it directly or from a surrogate.

  • heavyhitter Lehi, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 10:47 a.m.

    Is this what Hillary Clinton thinks Utahns are--gullible one-issue ("religious freedom") voters? Utahns are a lot more sophisticated than that. Yes, religious freedom is important. But we also actually care about protecting our borders through lawful immigration, protecting marriage and family and the sanctity of life, our economy, growing American jobs, energy independence, protecting all lives including our police officers, protecting U.S. classified information, and integrity. She can say whatever she wants--but she is on the wrong side of all these issues.

  • Liberal Mormon Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 10:38 a.m.

    This letter hits the nail on the head. But more than that, it speaks to the sensitivities of Utah voters without pandering, and it's a cogent, coherent (good grief that should be a given, but Trump has proven otherwise), passionate, relevant and important statement. Not just for Mormon voters but for those with the independent sensibilities of the Great American West. From Nevada to Wyoming, and Idaho to Arizona, we should read this letter, vote for Hillary, then hold her accountable to it.

    She's right, it's about the kind of country we want. I don't want to live in an Orwellian America of Trump's neurotic, self-serving imagination.

  • BGuy Falls Church, VA
    Aug. 10, 2016 10:34 a.m.

    I find it pretty incredible that the Clinton campaign would respond to the request from the Deseret News. It shows that in this insane election year, they legitimately have a shot in Utah. Most people in Utah will agree with her assessment of Trump, the question is will they vote for Clinton rather than stomaching Trump, staying home, or voting third party.

  • Open Minded Mormon Everett, 00
    Aug. 10, 2016 10:28 a.m.

    Now --

    We'll watch a the rush of mindless PERSONAL attacks against Secretary Clinton,
    without s single rebuttal to ANYTHING she actually said.

    There is a term for that,
    it's called "blind hatred".

  • What in Tucket? Provo, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 10:27 a.m.

    The record of Islam in Europe is not so good. 50 million Muslims and 80% on welfare which must be like paradise to them compared to the middle east. Oslo police say Oslo is lost to the Muslims and not safe to walk there. Sharia law is required by a good Muslim and we will have that here too. Mrs. Clinton owes to Saudi Arabia and other Muslim states for the $30 million plus she has received. Her aide is Muslim and has ties to the Muslim brotherhood. If you are a Christian or any religious of any religion other than Islam one would fear Islam.

  • 1978 Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 10:26 a.m.


    Her comments had absolutely nothing to do with the torture and mutilation of women. She was advocating more abortions for any reason and blamed religion for making that more difficult.

    By the way there are those who do support what you suggested. You know those who support partial birth abortion of females. It is not my side who advocates that.

  • CBoggs Philadelphia, PA
    Aug. 10, 2016 10:22 a.m.

    I won't be voting for Clinton in the election (we disagree on too many issues), but I definitely won't be sending my absentee ballot with Trump checked off. I respect that she has taken the time to submit this letter to Utah's voters and it gives me comfort to see that protecting religious freedom is important to her.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 10:20 a.m.

    Thank you for running this letter. Ms. Clinton is often portrayed as a monster of some sort, but in a field that includes trump, there's nothing scary here.

  • Open Minded Mormon Everett, 00
    Aug. 10, 2016 10:07 a.m.

    Gotta admit, she nailed it.

    Mrs. Clinton didn't even quote herself,
    but quoted MORMON and Republican leaders --
    and without even mentioning the LDS Church's public rebuke of Donald Trump back on Dec. 8th 2015 with his threats of banning Religious Freedom.

    You may not agree with her personally,
    but seriously, you can not disagree with her letter.

    God Bless Hillary Clinton!

  • 1978 Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 10:02 a.m.

    The statements in this article by Senator Clinton are effective and I agree with her. However how does she explain then the following comments she made at the Women in the World Summit in April 2015:

    "“Laws have to be backed up with resources and political will. And deep-seated cultural codes, religious beliefs and structural biases have to be changed"

    In other words you can keep your religion as long as your beliefs are in agreement with political correctness and the government's views on these issues?

  • kiddsport Fairview, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 10:00 a.m.

    "And let's be honest..."
    Wouldn't that be refreshing?

  • DavidMiller Bountiful, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 9:55 a.m.

    "Those timeless ideas teach us that we’re stronger together when we work in unison to solve our problems, no matter what we look like, where we come from or how we pray.

    "That last one is important. As Americans, we hold fast to the belief that everyone has the right to worship however he or she sees fit."

    Looks like she's got an idea of what angle this particular audience might be open to hearing.

  • Bloodhound Provo, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 9:53 a.m.

    I'm not sure too many "Utah leaders" want to redefine marriage and advance the sexual revolution. I also doubt very many are interested in promoting abortion on demand.

  • iamgroot Provo, UT
    Aug. 10, 2016 9:50 a.m.

    If she has anything in common with Utah's leaders, we need to replace those Utah leaders with real constitutionalists who are honest, hard-working and charitable.