Study reveals another unexpected health benefit of attending church

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  • summarizer andrews afb, MD
    July 11, 2016 9:46 a.m.

    @Ranch

    RE: Homosexuality, Christianity, and suicide

    John 8:11

    @Karen R.

    "There's an apparent marketing effort underway in these pages, extolling the virtues of religious involvement."

    RE: marketing

    You can call it marketing and I'll call it informing. It is sad how irreligious instead of digging into the details of studies they instead decide to simply like to wish it away by labeling it "marketing".

    @1aggie

    RE: suicide and Utah

    You should also mention that suicide is relatively high in high elevation locals.

    "According to the National Violent Death Reporting System, a surveillance system run by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Utah and other states in the Rockies consistently have the highest suicide rates in the country aside from Alaska. In the map below, the block of red — states with suicide rates over 14 per 100,000 people — is hard to miss."

    @Steve C. Warren

    re: Golfing

    Women Golf? Where?

  • Rogers Lambert Radford, VA
    July 9, 2016 7:57 p.m.

    All I know about this study is from the above article. However. the relationship between suicide and lack of church attendance does not necessarily prove cause and effect. It might be that people suffering from mental illness are not as likely, for all sorts of reasons, to be regular church attenders.

  • Karen R. Houston, TX
    July 9, 2016 7:00 a.m.

    @ Jeanie

    "Why bring up the subject of people not needing religion or finding alternatives when the article stated the opposite?"

    Because, as my first two comments indicate, I see this article as part of a marketing strategy, presumably developed in response to the evidence that people, primarily young people (collectively the "Nones"), are increasingly disengaging from organized religion. The message is (as I see it), "Don't leave. Studies show religion is good for you." The Nones' behavior, specifically the deliberate omission of dogma and supernatural claims from their new groups, suggests that this isn't necessarily the case for everyone.

    @ Redshirt

    Pointing out that the strictly religious aspects of religious involvement aren't necessarily beneficial to all doesn't refute this study's findings.

  • Steve C. Warren WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    July 8, 2016 6:51 p.m.

    I'd guess that women who golf once a week are six times less likely to commit suicide than women who never golf. People who are in a good place mentally are much more likely to be actively involved in life than people who are depressed.

  • jeanie orem, UT
    July 8, 2016 4:43 p.m.

    Karen -

    The article wasn't speaking about alternative ways people are finding what they need as a framework for their life. It was speaking to a study done on the value or religious participation in a demographic of 30-50 year old female health workers. And the findings that it was indeed very helpful.

    You skipped all that information and jumped right into the statement that many people, in particular the young (that the article didn't address) are finding what they need without religion. Why bring up the subject of people not needing religion or finding alternatives when the article stated the opposite? Unless as an athiest you are actively proscelyting (marketing) your own ideas.

    I think religion is here to stay and there are many rational, thoughtful and intelligent people young and old who find it - all of it (products A-Z) invaluable.

    Last comment : )

  • 1aggie SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    July 8, 2016 4:21 p.m.

    (Try number 2)

    It is a fact that more young people in the U.S. than in previous generations are not affiliated with organized religion.
    Most likely there are many factors contributing to the decline in religious affiliation including such things as advances in technology and easier access to information. Technology also has changed the way young people connect with each other. Other factors might be the marriage of politics and religion--damaging both institutions and a more open society, specifically people self-identifying as LGBT, combined with organized religion's opposition to more rights for people who are LGBT.

    I can understand how organized religion could possibly be a factor in reduced suicide rates for women. Churches can provide opportunities to socialize and engage in service. In UT, the LDS culture is very dominant and deeply ingrained. Of course other organizations can provide similar opportunities.

    I find it interesting that it is pornography, not suicide, which becomes the focus in a state where suicide rates are relatively high.

  • jeanie orem, UT
    July 8, 2016 3:59 p.m.

    Red Corvette,

    I reread my comment a few times and I never mentioned shoes. : )

  • Bountiful Guy Bountiful, UT
    July 8, 2016 3:29 p.m.

    We cannot expect those without faith to understand faith. And in the case of some commenters, we cannot even have the respect that perhaps we have something they don't have. We are considered to be lairs and frauds, just because they do not have faith as we have that is as sure as we can feel our feet.

    Evidence that religion does nothing for anyone just doesn't exist, but we can all agree that for some, faith does nothing. And we understand why.

  • Red Corvette St. George, UT
    July 8, 2016 3:27 p.m.

    @jeanie

    The shoe fits.

  • Mick Murray, Utah
    July 8, 2016 2:52 p.m.

    Karen-

    I'll bite. Maybe the young, and you, don't see the reported benefits because they are being told by society that you need to have tangible gratification. And if that is not being met, then you are not happy. It needs to be instantaneous and tangible according to society and when people can't find that they jump ship. That is not what God or faith in God is. And yet, there are scientific studies that show there are benefits to belief in God and religious study. Joseph Smith once said, " The things of God are of great import; and time and experience and careful and ponderous and solemn thoughts can only find them out."

  • RedShirtHarvard Cambridge, MA
    July 8, 2016 2:34 p.m.

    To "Karen R." Why should I address it. As your first post shows, I could show you the best scientific study done that would prove you wrong. You would reject it because it doesn't fit your world view.

    Your claims are false because you claim that the world can recreate something that religion has. Well, where is it? The study looked at the non-religious and compared them to the religious and found that those that were religious benefited.

    Again, you are showing that despite the science proving that religions provide benefits you are rejecting science.

    The point you attempted to make is more like science proving the world is round, and you insist it is flat because that is how you see it.

  • Karen R. Houston, TX
    July 8, 2016 1:44 p.m.

    @ jeanie, Mick & Redshirt,

    Each of you responded to something I didn't say and none of you addressed my central point at all. I find this interesting too. Here it is again, put another way:

    If I'm running an organization that offers products A and B, but I'm losing members and many are going to other organizations that only offer product A, then aren't I going to wonder why product B doesn't help me? Particularly if I think product B is the greatest product ever sold - aren't I going to wonder why that isn't tipping the balance in my favor? Why when former members do migrate to different organizations do they only seek Product A? Doesn't that suggest that this is what seemed most valuable or helpful to them, not Product B?

    That's all I was saying.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    July 8, 2016 12:02 p.m.

    To "Karen R." you and your ilk are funny. If this had been a scientific study about Climate Change being man's fault, or saying that being LGBT makes you superhuman you would accept it without any questions. Yet since it goes against your beliefs you immediately seek to discredit a scientific study.

    Why deny science? Your comment shows that you are denying this because you don't agree with it, not because their method or findings have any flaw.

    To "1aggie" that is nice, but it doesn't relate to the study. Of those suicide attempts in Utah, what percentage were by religious people, and what were by non-religious people? Maybe the non-religious people are driving up the statistic.

  • Mick Murray, Utah
    July 8, 2016 11:46 a.m.

    karen-

    You calling the DN biased is the pot calling the kettle black. The DN is a news paper owned by the LDS church whose readers are primarily LDS. Any yet you, an atheist, continues to be shocked and comment on all articles that are religious.

    Aggie1-

    Report the suicide rates for all western states. There has been a link to increased suicide in the Rocky Mountain states. But I get the "point" you are trying to make.

  • 1aggie SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    July 8, 2016 11:12 a.m.

    A few facts from Utah Public Health:

    "Utah's suicide rate was 20.8 per 100,000 persons. This is an average of 557 suicides per year. Utah has one of the highest age-adjusted suicide rates in the U.S.

    In 2014, suicide was the leading cause of death for Utahns ages 10 to 17 and 18-24. It is the second leading cause of death for ages 25 to 44 and the fourth-leading cause of death for ages 45-64. Overall, suicide is the eight-leading cause of death for Utahns ages 10+.

    Completed suicides are only part of the problem. More people are hospitalized or treated in an emergency room for suicide attempts than are fatally injured. In 2013, 13 Utahns were treated for self-inflicted injuries every day (3,181 emergency department visits and 1,508 hospitalizations.

  • jeanie orem, UT
    July 8, 2016 10:37 a.m.

    Karen R.

    Not all young people are walking away from religion. Many are walking toward it. I don't know the percentages of either group, but many people older and younger find the framework of religion sustaining. That it doesn't work for you doesn't mean it has no inherent value to others. The naysayers in the late 1800s believed religion would be dead by now . They were wrong. Millions find it exceptionally valuable in our day, myself and my young adult children and most (but not all) of their friends included.

    Silver Stingray

    If your definition of propaganda is spreading information to support a particular belief, then everyone who has an idea for society's betterment uses propaganda. If however your definition is misinformation, or exaggerated information to mislead people into believing things not totally true then this article doesn't fit.

  • Karen R. Houston, TX
    July 8, 2016 9:46 a.m.

    @ michaelitos

    The DN has run several stories recently that highlight the benefits of regular religious involvement. This is what I was referring to.

  • Silver Stingray St. George, UT
    July 8, 2016 8:54 a.m.

    @michaelitos
    Its called propaganda. And it is no different from reading Pravda.

  • michaelitos Salt Lake City, UT
    July 8, 2016 8:30 a.m.

    @Karen
    Since when does reporting on a newly published scholarly study in a newspaper where the readership in general would find the topic newsworthy constitute "marketing"?

  • Karen R. Houston, TX
    July 8, 2016 7:10 a.m.

    There's an apparent marketing effort underway in these pages, extolling the virtues of religious involvement. Okay. But people, particularly the young, aren't walking away because of the things religion does well and these beneficial aspects clearly aren't enough to keep them. They can be, and are being, recreated elsewhere without all of the supernatural claims and dogma. Which suggests that people are walking away from the very things that make religion religion. Interesting.

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    July 8, 2016 6:42 a.m.

    Unless you happen to be LGBT, then your risk goes up exponentially. How do I know? Personal experience.