@ECRGreat point. The Jazz need to trade for Steph Curry, Klay
Thompson, or JJ Redick. These are the few of a handful of guys that can
consistently make threes that aren't one sided. Let's be realistic.
This type of player is what everyone covets and it will cost $15 mil or more in
free agency. An available player that you speak of will most likely be a one
sided 3-point shooter with defensive and other offensive liabilities, which such
player has shown the inability to stay on the floor and consistently effect the
outcome of the game (Channing Frye, Anthony Morrow, even Kyle Korver). 3-point
shooters making 37%-41% is probably what the Jazz mgmt is going to settle for
and I believe they have a couple of those already. Maybe someone like a Jared
Dudley may be available, but no one to get super excited about. Play-making and
creating your own shot when the offense breaks down is what they lacked last
year...and perimeter defense; and George Hill helps immensely with all of those
needs, as should a healthy Dante and Alec.
@joe5I agree that Orlando might offer...but...giving him a loaded
contract would help get other free agents and take Orlando out of Free
Agency...I think that for the brass to prove they will be aggressive...they
should try offering contracts even to RFAs...like Fournier and Beal...as of
right now...we need a shooting wing...and we need to dispose Burke and Burks...
Dennis Lindsay says he's going to be aggressive in free agency and today
rumors are that we interested in Solomon Hill who was drafted by the Pacers and
not offered a contract. He averaged like 4 points and 2 rebounds a game and the
Jazz are willing to pay 9 to 13 million. Wow, are the Jazz out of their minds?
If we can not land a free agent that can help, why pay millions for less then
average talent. I'm starting to think the Jazz front office is getting
desperate. If we going to risk millions why not Chandlor Parsons or Nick Batum
or Fournier. Even Bazemore from Hawks won't be a bad deal but stop with
the d league players. If after 3 years of playing in the league you only
averaging 4 points why would I offer you 10 million to sit on the beach. Please
Jazz management make a splash in free agency and give the fans something to be
Mack wasn't the problem at the end of the year. Favors and Rudy were
injured the last several games when we needed wins, and Burks still wasnt'
ready to come back. Too little depth with significant injuries and lack of
experience to finish out games against Lakers, Clippers, and Dallas. Favors will
be much better at start of season now that he has had time to heal. He was
playing great before he got hurt. Gordon continues to improve every year and yet
many say he is not a number one guy and to get rid of him because he is heading
to Boston. When his numbers decline then we know he has maxed out his potential.
Jazz probably won't get top free agents like Durant, but there are quality
free agents that they may be able to get like Luol Deng or Jared Dudley that
would give us good depth behind Gordon and greatly improve experience. Jazz will
get 50+ wins this year and playoffs and this time next year all the boo birds
will be quiet. This young Jazz team is envied by many GMs out there.
This move underscores the fact that the Jazz do not no what Exum will bring. He
was playing great defense, but couldn't shoot or pass the ball with any
efficiency. I think the Jazz were also worse with Mack. Neto should be the the
guard in waiting. Exum may prove himself, but this draft trade indicates the
Jazz aren't sold on him. They need a go to veteran at the wing, Hayward
isn't a main outlet, he would defiantly improve if he had someone that
demanded more attention. Getting a quality veteran to come to Utah will be a
I have a man-crush on Fournier so you won't get any argument from me on
that score. As I said, I've been drooling over him for two years. And your
right that the Olidapo trade further sealed his fate.But you need to
enter the era of positionless basketball. Fournier and Harris did pretty much
the same things. Fournier was the purer shooter and Harris was the stronger
defender and rebounder. But their roles were pretty close to the
same thing the Jazz have with Hayward and Hood. Who's the SG and who's
the SF? They're similarly sized and both can play either position and even
moonlight at PF in small lineups. When I make my dream lineups for the Jazz, I
use three positions: PG, wings, and bigs. I know Trey Lyles is a stretch-4 but I
often categorize him with the wings instead of the bigs. Why? Because
that's where he spends the bulk of his time.Anyway, we're
in agreement he would be a "good get" for the Jazz. I just happen to
believe Orlando will match any offer and he is not available for trade.
@joe5first of its spit-balling...i don't see you recommending
anyone...another point....Tobias Harris is a SF/PF and Fournier is a SG...when
they Traded Tobias...it signaled Aaron Gordon as the building block...so you are
way off on your assessment and you should know the players' position and
who'd be next up on their roster before saying that the reason they traded
tobias was for fournier...but the fact is...its for Aaron Gordon...the only
thing that we could do is offer fournier a contract that would tie up
Orlando...in the hopes of targeting other players...the only reason why i made a
statement...is to point out our needs...and that is a shooting wing..so
yeah...finally...let me correct you...the only trade the magic did to seal
Fournier's fate as a magic...is when they dealt victor oladipo to the
thunder...it made sure they have spots for Fournier and Hezonja...but with free
agency around...and Orlando showing interests in Lin and Barnes...it wouldnt be
bad to try and give fournier an offer sheet..he is RFA after all
kakashi: hahahahahaha!!! Why not just offer Ingles for Blake Griffin?You seem to have no concept that there is another team's interests
involved in a trade. Listen, I love Fournier. I used these message boards for
the last two years to suggest that the Jazz should be pursuing Fournier, I quit
when Orlando traded Tobias Harris during the season. That pretty much signaled
Orlando's intent to commit to Fournier as a young building block for their
team.I mean, you gotta be kidding. What in the world makes you think
Orlando would take Jazz castoffs in exchange for one of their building blocks?
Trade Burks and Burke to Orlando...for either Evan Fournier or Mario Hezonja
Coleman: I think your a little pessimistic about Hayward , I don't see him
leaving for Boston, I think this Jazz team is better than Boston, the Celtics
are just in the weak eastern conference, that is why they made the playoffs . If
this team stays healthy they will show that they are pretty good. I predict
Lyles will prove to be a reliable offensive option and a better one than Favors
in less than 2 years.
While I personally haven't heard Lindsey say in the past that they will be
"aggressive" in free agency, i'm not optimistic that they are going
to lure anyone over here this year. The jazz have their starting five. What big
name free agent is willing to come over and back them up? Especially since
EVERYONE has cap space this season. Not gonna happen. Then you start going down
the free agent list, and ask the same question. The jazz will get what they
always get: A mediocre player who won't tip the scales for the jazz the
slightest. I will be the first to hope i'm wrong
The only problem with Utah being "active" during the free agent market
is that we have a horrible record of picking up free agents. More often than
not, they add little to the team and are on the last legs of their careers.
Probably more what we need is to find out what we actually have and determine
who we need and who we should let go. The addition of George Hill might help our
guard line temporarily but is no long term solution. Gordon Hayward will likely
leave after next year because Boston will be too appealing to him. We then need
a good backup three that can defend and we need to let go of all of our small
guards and utilize the big athletic ones we acquired. Alec Burks needs to be
traded and Trey Burke, Neto, and Mack need to be moved elsewhere. We have some
promising young players that I believe are NBA ready and we need to first start
"The team’s biggest needs now include finding another solid wing who
can defend and be an outside threat and perhaps a backup center who can stretch
the floor."What the Jazz need is somebody who shoots and makes
nothing but 3's, every night, consistently. That is the hthreat
they've been missing in the modern game. Get that, and everything else
falls into place.
"Utah Jazz plan to be 'active' during free-agency period"If "active" is defined as "actively being told no by every
decent free agent in the NBA", then yes, I agree that they will be active.
In other words in previous years free agency the Jazz weren't trying...
I loved watching Kobe score 60 in a meaningless game. The Jazz did the right
thing for one of the greats.
I agree with most of you...Jeff Whithey and Trey Lyles are the way to go....when
Gobert was down...i think Whithey stepped up big time...the guy can screen
rotate make himself free...defend....while Trey Lyles...i can see him time from
SF-C...our Diaw perhaps? but still...this team needs a legit go to guy...when
you are on a stretch to close or to come back...and you need scoring...we need
that dependable guy....unfortunately for Hayward it's really not his
game...we need to let go of some of our players...like Trey Burke...Alec
Burks...the brass need to choose between mack and neto...i think Neto is our
backup...and Exum is our long term starter....but...i can only have lowered
expectations for our team...as the wolves are going to crush us in time....
I still say the "big deal" is the front office change from developing
young players to winning. "Notifying players that they have to adjust to
sitting or playing at the will of Snyder" in my mind is big big big. I still
say the Jazz had the roster to make the playoffs even with the injuries if
Snyder had been playing to win instead of develop. I will never be happy over
the Jazz throwing the last game so Kobe could go out a hero.
As much as I like Trevor Booker, someone out there is going to offer him more
money than the Jazz are willing to pay. With the way Lyles played last season,
Booker will become the third option at power forward. That's why I think
the Jazz are going to let him walk away.By drafting Joel Bolomboy
the Jazz already have their 3rd-string power forward waiting. Joel brings a lot
of the same athletic attributes Booker has, but is taller and a better shooter.
Joel also comes with a 40.5 inch vertical leap. The Jazz should be able to sign
Bolomboy for something around a million dollars per year, that's a lot
cheaper than what Booker will be willing to sign for.
Chemistry is critical. Didn't the Jazz have a worse record after adding
In contrast to the Debbie Downers I think the glass is half full. I really think
Whithey and Lyles are pretty good backups and can get better. Think Booker will
get a better contract and Hanlan from last year will be on the summer roster.
Think Burke will fit in either Pistons or Bulls or Kings. Neto over Mack for the
long haul. Johnson should be let go and Pliess throw in on a trade.
Kalashnikov, I think you Missed a major piece and that is Lyles , I can see him
being a much bigger part of the offense this year , I love his offensive game
and think he will be used by Quin in a much larger role this coming season. If
Exum is healthy and can stay that way his improvement as well as others
improvement will make the Jazz a playoff team and probably a 50 win team. Go
"Utah Jazz plan to be 'active' during free-agency period" Ill
believe that when I see it.
being a Jazz fan...i have had lowered expectations...i wont expect champagne
celebrations at end of the season...i'd expect us to compete...go to
playoffs...take our first or second round exit...and people would clamor how
consistent the Jazz has been...being a playoff team...for a decade...without
winning anything...right now...they have yet to met my already lowered
expectations...we have Hayward..who isnt a number 1 guy...we have an
inconsistent young Rodney Hood...who people are gushing over...but i dont...too
inconsistent for me...a role player at best...Alec Burks a young injury prone
player..Trey Burke who couldnt get it going...Favors a humble guy great
attitude...but could be better...the only bright spot...the length of Gobert who
i hopefully wish to be more dominating on D....Dante Exum..who we really havent
seen the potential...