I'm a hairstylist in a family haircutting shop, and I've worked more
than my share of Sundays over the last 30+ years. I went inactive for many
years, and a few years ago when I was feeling the promptings to return to
church, I told my boss I could no longer work Sundays. She reminded me that if I
wasn't available all shifts I would be considered part-time and
wouldn't be guaranteed hours, and promptly cut me down to 20 hours or less
a week, causing me significant financial hardship. I endured and ultimately had
to threaten legal action but finally won my Sundays off and still be full-time.
And I love getting to go to church every Sunday and the opportunity to have
callings and other responsibilities.
I'm a Manager of a Fitness Center that is open every day of the week. 95%
of my employees want Sunday off.the remaining 5% is not enough staff to
open up and run the facility. Here in our "unique" culture in Utah I
HAVE to make some people work on Sundays. I let them know that it is part of the
job when they are hired....yet later on I still get resistance to working on a
Sunday. I've had to even do written warnings for workers not showing up to
scheduled shifts. Now I am labeled as "anti-Mormon". What the heck????
Regardless of your reasons why, if you have a schedule need/requirement/desire,
then the best way to make sure it's met is to be open and upfront about it.
Whether you want Sundays/Saturdays off for the Sabbath, want to come in late on
Monday Tuesdays and Wednesdays for morning yoga, or want your weekend in the
middle of the week so you can go on a daytrip to grandma (but work through the
normal weekend), the more upfront and direct you are, the more likely your needs
will be met.It might have some job impacts. If you are unwilling to
work Sundays, that will close a lot of service jobs unless your availability
elsewhere makes up for it. But that's why it's the responsibility of
everyone, as individuals, to choose, and then stand-by, their priorities.
I am much more likely to accept a job with no sunday work. I have had busy
seasons where I worked 7 days a week for months at a time but I was usually able
to accomodate going to church at some point. I have found that most
employers outside service industries don't like Sunday work any more than I
Sundays are the best day to get outside for a hike, bike ride or to ski. That is
some of the holiest ways to spend time. Also, Costco is never crowded on
Sundays in Utah.
LOL! We put so much unneeded stress on ourselves by worrying about minis-cure
things like this. I'm sticking with "Oinko Boinko" with their song,
"Just Another Day" when it comes to Sunday. If I make it to church,
great, if not, great. I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it. I would rather
be working on Sunday than to sit among-st gossipers who thinks that so and so is
a "menace to society" for being single after a year or more post mission
As a teenager I did not accept a fast food job because I would have had to work
on Sundays. However, a few years later I worked as a nurse's aid at a rest
home. Often my shift fell on a Sunday. Like the nurse said in a previous
comment, I felt it made a Sunday more holy serving those who needed help. I
never asked for Sundays off. The residence needed care every day of the week and
if I didn't work, someone else would need to. I really didn't mind and
even though I was being paid I didn't feel I was breaking the Sabbath.
When our daughter was in high school, she worked at a local fast food
restaurant. At the outset, she made it plain that she would only come on Sunday
in an emergencies. For the first month or two, "emergencies" happened
about every other Sunday. One Sunday morning the restaurant called while I was
up early studying. When I told them that she did not work on Sundays, they
promised not to bother They never called on Sunday again. Later she worked as
a supervisor in a department store. After she had been scheduled several times
for Sunday work, she approached Human Resources that one of her staff was a
Sabbath observer. When the HR person learned that it was her, the response was,
"you only have to be here one Sunday between Thanksgiving and Christmas and
one Sunday during the half-yearly sale in the spring." It has been our
experience that any employer who will not allow you to observe the Sabbath is
not worth working for.
I own a freelance consulting company with offices in the US and China, everybody
knows my religious rules.In the US everybody understands it.In China it's difficult to understand, they don't know why I
don't work on Monday's until 2pm in their afternoon (Sunday in the
US), they don't understand why I won't drink green or black tea, but
generally they hit the point in which they understand and respect my wishes and
realize that's part of who I am.Growing up I had a few jobs
that I had to work on Sunday for, my bosses were always very respectful, at the
same time I feel like there is an obligation that if you are getting out of work
on a Sunday you should keep the whole sabbath and not use one excuse to get out
of work and then go home and forget that's it's a special day - people
take the day too casually in my opinion.
I doubt this will have any meaning at all to LDS people, since I am gay and
clearly it is unacceptable for members to consider that I believe in God! You
know, I missed something!!! I really did! Oh, I have tried for over thirty years
. I thought for sure they cared!Have you noticed. lately, how much spying is
going on among you? Do you even care when it is doing extreme damage to a fellow
member? Or is it just easier to go along as they humiliate a rape victim? Have
you even considered what it does? Pain, damage, more than you can ever know
unless you have been there! THe key word is " INTENTION! " You know, you
should realize that the intent is not good! Sadness! If there is no love,
the church and beliefs mean "NOTHING!" Treating a person differently,
depending on how much they go to church, well, you get what you want! Just pray
that you don't have the pleasant reality check that sincere love for you is
probably an illusion! Don't think that they all see it like you do!
@Curmudgeon.Thanks for the correction on the scriptural reference. Need
to read my scriptures more. Perhaps this Sunday…@bamaphone.Fair point on more fences to keep our oxen out of the mire.
Is this the same "poll" that over sampled people that identify as Jewish
or LDS? I would think if religion wants to continue to claim moral authority
that the paper that represents one of them may want to make clear that this poll
is not an accurate reflection of the general american publics attitudes. Of
course not print several articles that all engage in false dictomies, either you
keep the sabbeth or you do it engage in a day of rest, would help too.
...the majority of my work life was in healthcare...I worked my share of
Sunday's in a 7 day x 24 hour environment...serving others did not seem to
me to be a problem on the Sabbath...if one's work schedule includes a shift
on your religious holiday and a schedule cannot be accommodated for your special
day..you might need to think about other employment....
Pretty interesting how often that ox falls in the mire, a fence could help out.
Thank you, Noodlekaboodle, for pointing out that an insistence on having Sundays
off means that co-workers can't always get their time off when they would
like. It's fine to speak up and say you prefer not to work on Sundays, but
please, people, be cognizant that your religious beliefs may not be
everyone's, and may impose hardship on others.And blackattack,
not EVERYONE keeps the Sabbath the same way the dominant religion in Utah does.
Catholics are required to attend Mass once a week and on Holy Days of
Obligation, but they are free to shop, eat out, recreate, etc. Their activities
shouldn't be limited to Monday through Saturday just because some people
are confined to church and home on Sundays. Nor should anyone else's.
Unless you are at a very small company, one way to to minimize the impact is to
rotate with others to share the burden. We also need to remember that there was
a time, not so long ago, where "keeping the Sabbath, included stoking the
fire, boiling water, feeding the chickens, slopping the hogs, milking the cows,
and hitching up the horses before heading off to Church.
From the day after I graduated from high school I worked at radio and TV
broadcasting stations.They operate 7 days a week. Back then, when you were
looking to go on an LDS mission you had to be interviewed by a General Authority
so I had a chance to talk at the SCERA theater with Church Patriarch Eldred G.
Smith and Apostle Richard L. Evans (for many years the voice of the Tabernacle
Choir on Sundays). They both explained that there are some jobs which do require
work on the Sabbath, what we need to do is see that we do our best to fulfill
our church responsibilities along with our work duties. Many times I have gone
straight from overnight work to a Bishopric meeting or slipped into a Sacrament
meeting a little late. While working at the Church's short wave station
Radio New York Worldwide, I rarely had to work on Sundays as I helped cover our
many Jewish workers on Saturdays and on Jewish Holidays.
@Vermonter:Contrary to popular belief, there is no reference in the
Bible, whether Old or New Testament, about any ox being in the mire. You are
probably thinking of Luke 14:5: "Which of you shall have an [--- the actual
word wouldn't get past the moderators] or an ox fallen into a pit, and will
not straightway pull him out on the sabbath day?"
Thirty-five years ago, in Logan, most stores closed on Sundays. The population
has remained largely LDS but more businesses now open on Sundays.
I can see it working against an employee in Utah the opposite of that employee
doesn't keep the sabbath day holy. I've seen instances where
preferential treatment is afforded those that are LDS over those non-LDS
employees. To this day, working in Utah, I will never let people I work with
know my religion or lack there.
As a teenager, it was difficult to find a job that didn't require working
on a Sunday. I wanted to make a regular exception to my beliefs and my mom
taught me an important lesson that the Sabbath is more important than money. Of course, some jobs require it and I agree with many of the comments
that one should work a Sunday if all reasonable accommodations have been made.
One way to alleviate this issue is to limit what one does on a
sabbath because businesses will meet demand.
If an employer really values the employees he/she will do whatever it takes to
accommodate. If I work somewhere I'm not happy then I'll be out
looking for another job. And if I don't speak up then I'll be less
content at my job anyway...
My son told his fast-food manager that he would take any hours and do any nasty
job to be able to have Sundays off. They accommodated him, and to some extent,
took advantage of his offer. After not too long, it just became accepted and he
was accommodated.More difficult to do in Utah than Eastern
Washington, but if you don't ask, it's a lot harder.
It really depends on where you work, I used to run a restaurant in Davis County
that had Sunday hours, and was right next to a freeway off ramp, so we were
still very busy, even on Sunday. Every single employee of the store told me they
didn't want to work Sunday, and complained bitterly on their one day a
month rotation they worked on Sundays. I guess my point is, yes, if one person
wants to take Sunday's off for a business that is open on Sunday the
employer should be able to accommodate them, but you also have to consider that
you're insistence on not working Sundays may be forcing others, who also
would prefer the day off for the same religious reasons, to work. Bottom line,
if you get a job at a business that is open Sunday's you should be willing
to work the occasional Sunday, or find a job somewhere that isn't open
I agree that it can be counterproductive to wear your religion on your sleeve.
But, it usually does not hurt an employee if they tell their boss upfront that
they “prefer” Sundays off. Most employers are reasonable enough to
avoid giving you Sunday work if they value you as an employee. But, it’s
also a good employee that tells the boss they will work Sunday if there is an
emergency need. At least Christian workers should be ok with this, as there is
something in the Old Testament about the “ox being in the mire.”
I work in IT and have done so for the last 34 years. Having to do system
maintenance on weekends has been and is an inevitable part of the job. I strive
to keep the Sabbath day holy as much as it depends on me, but not inflexibly.
The Lord expects observance of the Sabbath day from everyone, which includes my
teammates. It doesn't seem right to me to look for an exception for myself
that would transfer that workload to another teammate. Therefore, I share on the
weekend workload with everybody else as long as that workload is necessary and
inevitable, and I feel that this is fair.
One of the companies I regularly purchase from, B&H, closes their physical
and online stores for the Sabbath and all Jewish holidays. I respect and honor
them for doing so, and gladly deal with the occasional inconvenience this causes
me. Good on them and their employees for honoring the Sabbath.
I've never worked on Sunday, and I've had to quit a job once because
they scheduled me after I told them I wouldn't do it.My family
has always had what we needed and much more because of this.Stand up
for what's right, let the consequences follow no matter what.
The "weekend" as we know it was a victory of organized labor, not
religion. Please remember that. Andrew Carnegie's steel mill employees
got only one day off per YEAR! I think it was the 4th of July, subject to
Businesses don't think people should be given any rest. It shouldn't
be any of their business, though, whether you attend church or "keep the
Sabbath day holy" or not.
Saturdays are always a busy day.
What if you don't "keep the sabbath day holy?" Some bosses will
hold that against you. So, best to not even wear your religion on your sleeve
in the workplace.
My boss knows I will do just about anything to not work on Sunday. Sometimes,
it's unavoidable. In the Automotive world weekend work usually means some
sort of an emergency but usually I can arrange my schedule to work around
Sundays. Then again I'm a salary employee. If I was hourly it would require
a lot more effort on my part and a lot more accommodation with other folks.
Still, I think colleagues are usually willing to work around religious beliefs.
As long as I'm willing to cover a Jewish colleague on Saturday
I'm sure he'll cover me on Sunday.