cmsense:The SAGE test is not "good". But my father had this
saying, "that many people can't be wrong." Too many teachers and
students think the SAGE is pointless. My daughter, who scores well on the SAGE,
says she and her friends don't want to try this year because they are sick
of being tested. I feel bad for their teachers. But teachers are sick of it,
students are sick of it and even if the data was valid, which it isn't when
the people taking the test aren't held accountable, it isn't that
available to teachers to help their instruction.
Miss Teaching Most kids have an android device or iPad at least
and the internet. Hopefully the state rather than giving an ipad to every
student could help out with after school computer labs, or devices for loan for
the truely needy etc.As they say, "Don't let the perfect be
in the way of the good."
SAGE is an invalid test. It has never been independently validated. I pity the
teachers and students who have had to suffer through all this. Wasted money and
time. Instead of educating, we waste weeks of the school year to teach to a
flawed and meaningless test.
Testing in my district is way out of control. We spend far too much time
preparing students for the SAGE test so that administrators can have bragging
rights. I don't think the kids care, and the teachers are burned out with
all of the testing emphasis. The testing should be cut way back, and we teachers
should be allowed to teach again.
SAGE is a joke plain and simple! My students scored far above the state average
of 40%. My class average was in the upper 60%. The problem I have with the
test is it is so difficult. An assessment should be used to test student growth,
especially at the end of the year. How does making your brightest students feel
stupid, growth? The math and reading portion gets so incredibly hard, that I as
a teacher, have to strain my brain to figure out many of the questions. What
message are we sending students, when a test makes them feel small and defeated?
I believe in assessments, just not this one. If the USOE were to make the test
reasonable, taking in accountability for their age and capabilities at that age
I would be on board all the way. If the state were to align it with Utah
standards, per grade level this would be a much more efficient test. Quit
putting in items to assess knowledge, or make the two tests separate...
unfortunately, "brighter" minds are at work who don't deal with
small children everyday...
In the old days we relied on report cards, and students were actually
educated.Today we rely on people from other countries to fill our
I'm a teacher. Can I be honest?I don't care about SAGE
anymore. Since the bill recently passed that I'm not accountable for SAGE
results, I'm done.I am completely burnt out by being held
responsible for things that are outside of my control. Holding my feet to the
fire for test results where students can just randomly click buttons with no
repercussions..... fogedaboutit!I'm going to rewrite all my
curriculum to NOT be SAGE based, but to be based on standards and FUN. After
all, that's what draws the most complaints. Parents and students
don't want technical, challenging curriculum. They want to have As and
fun. They want to participate in sports and have little responsibility or
concern about homework or learning. I've been doing this long enough to
see the writing on the wall. At least now I can teach that way without fear of
losing my job because of some arbitrary test score.
The SAGE test is hopelessly tainted by the fact that students have zero stake in
the outcome. Why should they care about the SAGE test?
Utah Teacher explained the main problem with this test. When teachers are told
they can't even look at the test, how are they to effectively prepare
students to perform well on it? Another problem is that teachers are encouraged
to provide authentic writing opportunities for students, but that isn't
what happens when the kids are tested on those writing skills. Hundreds of
students have complained about the topics and prompts they are asked to write
about, and the lack of interest most likely impacts the quality of their writing
response.Teachers are also asked to differentiate their teaching,
but then they are to give all students a standardized test. How does that make
2cmsense Your ideas sound wonderful, but what about children who have no access
to the internet, no computers and other devices at home, and parents who
don't care? Sad, but true.
News Flash. Kids don't even care about the sage test. My kids just put in
answers and move on. They have enough tests to worry about that actually effect
their grades, they could care less about the SAGE test. SAGE is a waste of time
I never even get to see what my students are being asked on the SAGE test. I
don't know if it is a good test or a horrible test because I never get to
see it. When the kids tell me they don't understand a questions (this
happens a lot, especially with ESL kids), I can't help them at all. I
can't even explain a word they might not know. I have to say, "sorry I
can't help you understand a question."Imagine being held
accountable for teaching a test that I never even get to see or know what is on
I like that Utah with its SAGE is considered a "truth teller" state.I would like the SAGE to not only inform teachers, the current year and
the next, but also to give parents more actionable feedback, such
as..."Johnny is currently doing 9th grade level math, but he struggled with
fractions and long division in story format.. His reading comprehension was at
the 65th percentile for his grade level. His use of proper punctuation and
grammer is at the 45%. Most of the "core" learning material
doesn't really change from year to year. They could even have a free
software program or App program set up like "Think Through Math" except
for SAGE prep at home. Under the "learning mode" the program would know
what you had struggled with the year before and allow practice questions that
would give immediate feedback if you got a question wrong and why. They could
even embed video teaching tutorials. Parents could have kids work on it an hour
a day over the summer. No better or cheaper way to mass disseminate material
than through the web.