Ex-politician, businessman each face four felonies
To be honest---he does sort of look like an LDS Official.
Why am I not surprised this occurred in Utah county?
He should have run for state legislator, those guys can get away with pretty
much anything. And they make it all legal.
Here we go again.How many more of this type of tricky individual are we
dealing with on a daily basis in our lives?
Hopefully, this is a lesson to all of us to make economic decisions on economic
principles and not on church membership.
It must have been hard for the victims to tell if he was lying...
Utah - the Affinity Fraud State. Maybe that can be one of the official utah
"The things that matter most must never be at the mercy of those that matter
How sad. The project should have stood on its own merits. emb
riverofsunSt.George, UTDoesn't appear that either of the
alleged perps held Utah government positions.
By their works ye shall know them.
Scandal involving another Utah County public official? Shocking. Clearly, people have not yet learned from several decades of affinity fraud in
this state. I was just listening to general conference talks from 1982 warning
members against this type of stuff.
You can't make this stuff up.
Anyone who does something like this obviously doesn't take the gravity of
this type of action seriously, and clearly has big problems with a lack of
conscience. Pretty sad to build a life and a reputation, and then shatter it
all over something like this. It makes you ask "why"? Why would you do
Since he was commissioner from 2006 and served until 2014, that was the same
time he is accused of sending three letters and one email between approximately
June 2011 and December 2013 pretending to be a church official, the Presiding
Bishop, no less. Utah County Commissioners have done some odd
things in the past that get them into trouble.
Tales of Hofmann?
It's getting so these businesses don't even know who they can trust.
What a disgrace. These men absolutely knew better than what they were trying to
pull off. The worst penalty will be on the other side when they meet with the
Lord. I would not want to be in their shoes. And to falsify information
involving Church leaders. Oh boy...they are certainly going to get theirs and
they certainly earned it.
@third try screen nameI must take offense-out here away from Utah we run
at the first mention that a church GA supports some private business project.
@NTSomewhereIn, UTIf found guilty, lock 'em up!!!12:31 p.m. Feb. 22, 2016======== Funny -- No
mention of ex-communication...
@Say No to BOGreat response!Please people. Don't trust
people with your money, just because they say they are affiliated with the
church. These fraudsters are a dime a dozen.
@Thats what I thoughtThere was a Guy once who died and actually came back.
I take His word for it.
A little too close to HQ to pretend to be a general authority, don't you
think?MAYBE you could get away with it in Alabama or Ohio...but Utah
County? The GA probably has 50 cousins who know his voice. And when you are
running the office of the presiding bishop all the bankers and businessmen know
Everyone is faced with choices in their life and those choices ultimately define
us for better or worse. In this case WORSE. Feel bad for the mans wife and kids
to have a dishonest husband/dad who now faces prison. Feel bad for those who
@MaxPower- this isn't affinity fraud. @Ranch- Seeing that neither you
or Say No to BO have experienced death, his statement is just as likely to be
true as yours is.
Remember Ananias and Sapphira.
Wow. What is this, like , the 3rd "Utah Businessman of The Year" in
recent years being charged with fraud? Not to mention 2 AG's.
What's in the water in Utah?
I'm only surprised that this would come as a shock to anybody who's
lived in Utah longer than 10 minutes.
Why must people immediately jump on an issue with only information from a brief
news article. Haven't heard from the accused! Haven't had trial! No
verdict yet! But let's pile on. Maybe we ought to see more of the facts.
iMaybe waiting until ALL THE FACTS come out. Maybe wait until a verdict is
issued. Maybe the accused are innocent! Maybe, maybe, maybe. I think I'll
wait and see.
MaxPoeer...how long have you lived in Utah? Religion and business deals are
ver lucrative here.
@riverofsun, "As Utah continues to shout out about having the most honest
state government in the nation."1- If you'd read the
article, you'd see this guy is a former county commissioner, not a member
of State government.2-This is an individual who happened to be a
former government official who is accused of engaging in criminal conduct.
There is no accusation of government corruption here.3-One way to
reduce and prevent fraud in government is to investigate, prosecute, and punish
what fraud there is, rather than sweeping it under the rug or deciding that it
is ok because it was someone on your team rather than someone on the other team
who did it.Mature men understand the difference between actual
fraud, and simply being part of a political minority that doesn't get your
way every time.
This is not affinity fraud. It is identity fraud and not very skillful at that.
(what) Where they thinking?
@Say No to BO;Other than there being no afterlife, your comment was
Impersonating a general authority? Not only will you go to jail but your
afterlife will be problematic as well.
Never seen a better example of not judging a book by its cover.
As Utah continues to shout out about having the most honest state government in
If found guilty, lock 'em up!!!
Affinity fraud makes me want to vomit. It is utterly disgusting to use religion
as a means to make money.