Medical marijuana gets another shot

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  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    Jan. 20, 2016 9:08 a.m.

    To "Meter" prove it, name the studies. If they have been done, then you should be able to prove it to us, and the State Legislature that Medial Marijuana works for some of its claims.

    Your claims of no research being done in the US is also laughable. UC San Diego has the "Center for Medicinal Cannabis Research". What do you think they are studying there?

    The lie that the FDA is protecting the drug companies is laughable because according to your ilk, the government is only after the truth. Plus, the drug companies would make a fortune if Medical Marijuana was legal.

    You say it is safer than smoking tobacco, but that is a lie because smoking MJ still leads to lung problems. Plus, if you look at the studies by the American Lung Association, you will also be damaging your immune system. You are also ignoring the fact that while high, you are just as dangerous as a drunk driver.

  • Meter Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 19, 2016 4:30 p.m.

    Redshirtharvard

    No at least two countries have made FDA approved studies showing the medicinal benefits Portugal and Israel, the FDA just doesn't want to make a changes because again large drug companies would lose money, so they have blocked the studies. This allows you to say it is snake oil, and sit on a totally circular argument that only holds up if the corruption continues.

    We can literally see on YouTube kids and adults obtaining improved health with the administration of this snake oil. I'd say it works pretty well.

    Not to mention it shouldn't be illegal for recreational use as well. It is much safer than both the legal alternatives drinking and smoking tobaccos.

  • Meter Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 19, 2016 4:24 p.m.

    Redshirtharvard,

    What's your point, I explained why they can't do a study on it yet, the Government hasn't taken it off the schedule one list yet, it share a space with Meth and Heroin, which it obviously isn't that type of drug. The only studies the government has commissioned for the plant were the ones that were blatant lies about it's effects on humans. You know the one where the good doctor suffocated his test subjects, and then said weed causes brain damage. Which has now been put to rest as false by several studies here in the U.S. and studies abroad. The government funded Cancer.gov, has a list of studies showing how cannabis actually helps inhibit or kill certain types of cancer, so our own government isn't even playing dumb either when it comes to this plant.

    As well there are actually FDA approved uses of cannabis in pills, the brand was called Marinol. However the company that made it took out all the things we as humans need to receive the medical benefits of this plant. They make more money selling opioid medicines any so why rock the boat

  • RedShirtHarvard Cambridge, MA
    Jan. 19, 2016 2:15 p.m.

    To "Meter" so then as far as we know, Medical Marijuana IS snake oil. So far nobody has been able to produce an FDA quality study.

  • Meter Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 19, 2016 12:57 p.m.

    Redshirtharvard

    We've been trying to, the government won't take it off the schedule 1 list so we can actually get a good study of it yet. However the studies that the government has allowed show how benign the actual plant is and our brains have the perfect receptors for the CBD to be absorbed by the body. (We what is called an endocannabinoid system in our bodies already.) Israel, Portugal, and even Italy have published scientifica studies showing its medicinal properties however, and you can even find the many studies done on it here in the U.S.by googling medical uses of Marijuana.

    It's funny, most opioid based medication that are OK to use by the FDA's standards actual destroys the neurons in your brain. Marijuana has been proven to actually protect and create new neurons even if you aren't using it for medicinal use. Again please look up Neurogenesis, it's quite a nice read.

  • RedShirtHarvard Cambridge, MA
    Jan. 19, 2016 8:49 a.m.

    To "Multi" if CBD isn't snake oil, then prove it. Give us the verified studies that meet FDA standards showing that it actually does what people claim it does.

  • Multi Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 17, 2016 11:34 a.m.

    Hankel,

    The amount of people being recorded in accidents with pot in their system has gone up yes. You can detect pot in people's system for up to six weeks so that makes sense. People smoke at home and the evidence of that can be detected for weeks afterwards.

    However since 2002 when Colorado first legalized Cannabis for medical use, traffic accidents have been going down, and are at an all time low in the state of Colorado.

    The point is you aren't adding more intoxicated drives, those guys are already on the road. We are only adding more people on the road who have the detectable metabolites when tested, but however are not actually driving while intoxicated. It is a verified fact that Colorado has had less traffic accidents since legalization, so I don't know why you said it isn't. I as well agree with your study more people in accidents have smoked weed within at least 6 weeks of getting in an accident, so that would make it seem that more people smoking weed are getting on accidents. That just isn't true though, as I've explained above.

  • hankel Butte, MT
    Jan. 16, 2016 5:48 p.m.

    @ Multi
    Please do some research before making inexcusable statements.
    Yes, I do do drive with my family even though there are risks, but you totally missed the point:
    Why would anyone want even more impaired drivers on the road than we already have to tolerate?
    Here is a headline for a study done pertaining to Seattle. As you probably know, Washingtonrecently legalized pot:
    "According to a recent study, fatal car crashes involving pot use have tripled in the U.S."
    Need I say more?

  • Multi Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 15, 2016 8:57 p.m.

    Redshirtharvard,

    Cannabis isn't snake oil, it is a well documented medical treatment for certain cancers and helps protect the brain from the effects of alcoholism, and other drug use. It as well helps with Seizure, and different types of depression. Besides that what concern is it of anybodies what others put in their bodies? As long as what they put into their bodies doesn't violate anybody else rights why would it matter anybody else what they are doing?

  • Multi Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 15, 2016 7:41 p.m.

    Hankel.

    So you don't take your family out on the roads then, due to the fact that any drunk driver might get them too?

    The same DUI laws could be there as well for being high while driving, if you are that worried about it. However being high doesn't totally destroy your ability to drive. That's why they all cruise around when smoking. Plus Colorado hasn't seen any increase in accidents after legalization so your pretty safe.

  • hankel Butte, MT
    Jan. 15, 2016 5:59 p.m.

    @ creeper51
    "Why do you care if people get high?"
    --because some of the high pot heads get in their cars and drive. Ever hear of impaired driving? I really don't want my family wiped out.

  • RedShirtHarvard Cambridge, MA
    Jan. 15, 2016 1:34 p.m.

    To "Creeper51" you do realize that even with Medical Marijuana there are side effects, depending on which drug you are taking.

    What the medical marijuana people don't tell you is that even CBD can be habit forming, can induce sleeplessness. It has also been found that CBD can cause Dysphoria in some people, also with stomach irritation. How do we know that those are not possible bad side effects.

    You may have used a bit too much medicine. The NFL has not harmed any of its customers, and they have a $675 million fund to care for its injured workers.

    It matters what you put into your body because it is well established that one of the side effects of Marijuana use is a lack of motivation. In other words, it makes you lazy. The lazier you are, the more likely you are to need welfare, which comes out of tax money that I will be paying while you are just lounging around smoking a doobie. Lets not forget the number of people that have died while doing stupid things while high or have killed others while driving impaired.

    We also had snake oil salesmen before the 1930s.

  • Creeper51 Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 15, 2016 1:02 p.m.

    @Redshirtharvard

    Many nations in this world have discovered many benefits to ingesting marijuana at this point in time we really shouldn't need the FDA's approval to use this plant as medicine. Up until the 1930'S we were using it as a medicine, and medical uses have been discovered all the way back to ancient China.

    This is why we shouldn't have to wait for the bought and paid for FDA, by the pharmaceutical industry, to use this plant. Our government is run by business interests not what is best for all our citizens.

  • Creeper51 Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 15, 2016 12:53 p.m.

    Redshirtharvard.

    Because just as a large for profit industry like the NFL denied the damage it's products did to people, the drug industry does the same. They wish to make money, they don't actually care for their consumers they just wish to make money off them. Not to mention the fact that it is still a schedule 1 substance, it is on the same level as Meth and heroin. It is nothing like those two drugs and it isn't even close to the two legal scourges we allow all adults to partake of in this country, both alcohol and tobacco.

    The FDA approved medicines have all been proven to not actually help. Marinol does absolutely nothing to help people mostly because of federal drug laws concerning what can be in the pills. They took out all the chemicals that help our bodies.

    As for recreational use, why does it matter to you what I put into my body? Why can we sell cigarettes to adults when they have no positive benefits at all, and not cannabis which has many good side effects? Even when used for getting high. Why do you care if people get high?

  • SMS Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 15, 2016 9:54 a.m.

    This is just another example of how Utah politics is still in the past and is too influenced by the predominant religion here. While a few states across the country have already legalized recreational marijuana, Utah still hasn't legalized it for medical purposes. I'm not one to endorse or reject the legalization of recreational marijuana, but medical marijuana should absolutely be legalized. Obviously there are people that need it for conditions like seizures as the article states, so why are Utah legislators so against it? They're not against pain killers, which have high addiction rates, but because marijuana is viewed poorly by those who adhere to the Word of Wisdom (although pain killers should be too) it needs to be outlawed according to them. Legislators are making very little sense and living in the past.

  • PhilDeBowl Grant, WA
    Jan. 15, 2016 9:33 a.m.

    Anyone who supports the failed experiment of prohibiting a God given plant is either Ignorant, or paid by the prohibition industry, or just plain Evil.

  • RedShirtHarvard Cambridge, MA
    Jan. 15, 2016 8:38 a.m.

    To "Creeper51" the point is why are we legislating a drug into use, rather than allowing it to go through the FDA process for it to become legal? There are already several marijuana derivatives that are legal and are approved by the FDA.

    Why circumvent the process by legislating it into use, rather than going through the FDA?

    Imagine a drug company wanted to get a medication to market, but wanted to bypass the FDA by getting the states to make a law to legalize it. Would you support or fight that effort?

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 15, 2016 8:31 a.m.

    The tea party freedom movement supports legalization. Was not illegal for the founders to grow or use marijuana. The same is true for the settlers of Utah. Criminalization is mostly about organized religious control.

  • hankel Butte, MT
    Jan. 14, 2016 11:11 p.m.

    @bullet56
    "News is that when you legalize it, you have the same number of users as you have today in the current market for pot in Utah."
    I'd like to see the statistics that back up that claim. I'm sure I won't because it doesn't exist. Subscribe to the Montana Standard and read the police reports. I have been a subscriber for over 40 years, and there is most definitely a big increase in the number of pot arrests since "medical marijuana" was legalized in Montana. I really don't care if the jails are crowded or if I have to pay more taxes to support them. But I do care if even one young person gets pot from a MM cardholder.

  • Creeper51 Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 14, 2016 10:48 p.m.

    Legalizing marijuana, will not make it more available to minors. That is an absurd thought line. Has the legal selling of tobacco in every place in earth caused minors to have it in large quantities? Not at all. You have to show a card to get it, it's called an I.D. plus which person which dealer is going to purchase weed at full market value plus tax, and then flip the weed at an even higher price to minors that do not make any money? How is that a recipe for success?

    Why should cannabis not be allowed as a drug for recreation? It is less damaging in everyway shape and for than both cigarettes, and alcohol. Can anybody point to any deaths caused solely by cannabis? Because as far as I know there isn't a single one. Yet we have people killing themselves every year on those other two.

    Last thing, Mr. Redshirt we know most of the negative side effects, what we are learning now is all the positives. Go look up Neurogenesis, and Neuro protection. You find some cool info. Please look that up

  • Fullypresent Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 14, 2016 9:10 p.m.

    If it is carefully grown, quality product, regulated, and studied like other drugs why is it a problem to have it legal for medical use? It can't have any more harmful side effects than all the script drugs people take and doctors prescribe. Some of them have some terrible and damaging side effects. People need to quit associating it with just stoners and hippies.

  • bullet56 Olympia, WA
    Jan. 14, 2016 7:58 p.m.

    NEWS flash for all the people in the state who want to keep pot illegal. News is that when you legalize it, you have the same number of users as you have today in the current market for pot in Utah. You will not see a spike in DUI deaths, pot arrests will stop breaking the budgets of your prosecutors and jailer. Your state will move into the modern era where what formerly cost taxpayers millions in taxes, for arrest, courts and jails; now will provide tax revenue. Any one who wants pot in Utah today, can buy it on the black market and does. Your laws have not stopped Marijuana use so far, so, regulate and tax it, like alcohol, guns, and ammo. We did!

  • hankel Butte, MT
    Jan. 14, 2016 6:08 p.m.

    @ firstamendment
    "I'm sure it can't be as bad as some of the legal meds. people are taking, or alcohol, etc. I've never known anyone who died from it. If it helps, why not?"
    - because making medical marijuana legal will make pot more accessible to minors, that's why not. Even if it will help the sick, legalizing it will hurt many more families than it could possibly help. A few years ago, the people in my home state of Montana were duped into legalizing MM, and we are now seeing the effects. Now it is very difficult to do anything about it, because the MM advocates have the law on their side. People of Utah, don't make the same mistake Montana and other states have made. Do the research, and you will definitely see a pattern: First the advocates of marijuana will play on the voters' sympathy until MM is made legal, but then comes the push for legalizing "recreational" marijuana. We in Montana are past stage 1 (MM was made legal), and now we are at stage 2: pot heads are trying to get it on the ballot to fully legalize it for "recreational" use.

  • FanOfTheSith Vernal, UT
    Jan. 14, 2016 6:07 p.m.

    This is a tough call. We have people who definitely need it for medical relief and then those who use it for recreational pleasure. Would people be willing to compromise in giving up their privacy by having assigned DEA Agents visit them in their homes on a monthly basis to check their prescriptions from their family doctors? It is too bad that because of being fearful of the recreational users, roaming the streets, high on cloud 7 that those who needs it for medical relief like with chronic pain etc, are looked down upon and sometimes even labeled as pot heads. Then you see drunks all over the place too. Like I said, it is a tough call.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    Jan. 14, 2016 5:08 p.m.

    To "MoliterManus" now you are trying too qualify things to justify Medical Marijuana NOT going through the FDA process. So again, if we find out that the use of Marijuana has side effects that are harmful, who pays? Will the state have to pay if we find out that CBD or THC causes cancer?

  • brotherJonathan SLC, UT
    Jan. 14, 2016 3:20 p.m.

    DN Subscriber -
    Truth ~ ShallSetYouFree- CheckTheFacts~

    Your beliefs aren't supported by the facts.
    Pot like any drug that changes perception of reality has risks.
    The best scientific evidence: level of impairment caused by Pot use Alone-

    Go to Google- "Landmark Study Finds Marijuana Is Not Linked to Car Crashes'

    "Alcohol far more dangerous drug- for adults."

    Was completed ~ Thursday, 12 February 2015 by-
    United States National Highway Transportation and Safety Administration (NHTSA).

    (This federal funded study- expecting to prove Pot use by adults -
    is a major contributing factor to auto accidents.
    Proved Not True.
    This was not the first study to determine causation effects of THC in auto accidents.)

    A previous NHTSA-sponsored study assessing whether psychomotor motor impairment may be positively correlated with THC/blood levels similarly reported, "The answer is very clear; it is not."

    Feds: THC-Positive Drivers No More Likely To Be Involved In Motor Vehicle Crashes
    Washington, DC: Drivers who test positive for the presence of THC in their blood are no more likely to be involved in motor vehicle crashes than are drug-free drivers, according to a case-control study released last week by the United States National Highway Transportation and Safety Administration (NHTSA).

  • lasvegas4me Cedar City, UT
    Jan. 14, 2016 2:54 p.m.

    Just one more comment. If people, particularly females, in Utah would take cannabis there would be a lot less deaths from breast implants each year. Deaths from breast augmentation 1 in 250,000 or higher; deaths from alcohol poisoning around 50,000; alcohol related deaths too high to count; deaths from tobacco between 400,000 - 600,000; deaths from cannabis is zero. Again just because the church you go to says it's bad, doesn't make it bad.

  • MoliterManus SLC, UT
    Jan. 14, 2016 2:45 p.m.

    Redshirt - I guess it would depend on the type of damage. If the damage is one that can only be attributed to the use of marijuana, it would be treated like a products liability case, similar to lead paint or asbestos. In other words, anyone who produced or sold the product could be held liable for damage, even if it can't be shown that their product caused the specific damage at issue.

    However, if the damage is merely "linked" to the use of marijuana, this means that other factors may have contributed to the damage as well. In this case, the person's health insurance and the person would bear the burden of any associated costs.

  • lasvegas4me Cedar City, UT
    Jan. 14, 2016 2:28 p.m.

    Many people in the great state of Utah think that drinking coffee is a gateway to drugs, we have been taught these from birth. Cannabis has been studied and studied again with many clinical trials with positive results. Cannabis is not a gateway drug like we also have been taught from our youth, the term "Gateway" has not been used for years, it is non-addictive, which means you can stop whenever you want. For those ignorant people in Utah, smoking cannabis is not the only way into the body. If alcohol and many painkillers were prohibited, hundreds of thousands of people would be alive today. The only way someone will die from cannabis is if they are smoking it in their car, drop their lighter on the floor, and swerve in front of another vehicle while trying to pick it up! Did you know cannabis oil cures cancer, but many would rather die than go against their beliefs. Just because church's don't like it doesn't make it bad or wrong, it has been used for thousands of years.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    Jan. 14, 2016 2:15 p.m.

    oK all of you medical marijuana supporters. Tell us, if the Legislature approves this and we later find that there are some bad side effects, who will have to pay for damages? Will the state be responsible for damages in the future since they are bypassing all FDA regulation regarding approval of new drugs.

  • GZE SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 14, 2016 11:34 a.m.

    It seems the primary argument against legalizing medical marijuana is "I've been told to JUST SAY NO my entire life so it must be really bad."

  • MoliterManus SLC, UT
    Jan. 14, 2016 11:01 a.m.

    Yes, some people who smoke pot go on to take harder drugs. But the same can be said of people who take prescription pain killers, or who are musicians for that matter.

  • Creeper51 Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 14, 2016 10:27 a.m.

    Those who would say we can't legalize this because X are off base. Utterly and completely, we allow the sale of alcohol within out society, which is one of the most dangerous drugs on this planet. The withdrawal symptoms can kill people just as easily as Over dosing on other chemicals. We allow the sale of tobacco which is a terrible industry that basically kills off it's clientele. We however don't allow the sale of cannabis despite the fact that we have never had one reported and verified case of death by solely it. It has proven medical benefits,(whether or not it is used recreationally or for medical purposes.) and helps protect the brain from the abuse our own immune system, and acute alcoholism cause our bodies. Please those of you on the fence about this subject look up the words Cannabis and Neurogenesis, read what you find and ponder on it. Think about why some of the most creative minds smoked weed. Think about how that connects to Neurogenesis. Please.

  • RSL* Why, AZ
    Jan. 14, 2016 10:25 a.m.

    If I had the choice between Cannabis or pain meds like Morphine/Codeine I would choice Cannabis any day vs those pain meds. Those pain meds are significantly worse in every way than cannabis.

  • One opinion west jordan, UT
    Jan. 14, 2016 10:16 a.m.

    The only way I would approve the legalization of marijuana is if it would be prescribed by doctors who are certified MD's and the prescription would go through regular pharmacies the way any medication goes right now. The news release at the capitol by the way used sweet little children and lovely families which to me was using high pressure to get a bill passed. Talk about high pressure clever advertising!

    I would never vote for recreational marijuana because it is one of the gateway drugs that leads to drug abuse. However, I can see people pushing even this in the near future, but this is where we need to put our foot down. Hopefully we have enough wise families to stand against it!

  • Voice ofReason LAYTON, UT
    Jan. 14, 2016 9:55 a.m.

    I'm support legalized medical marijuana, in the same way I support legalized codeine cough syrup, narcotic pain killers, etc. If tested by the FDA as with any other drug, then why not legalize it, especially if such testing confirms medical benefits when prescribed under a doctor's care?

    Of course, many "medical marijuana" advocates want to legalize it now, through the political - not scientific - process, arguing that it's just too important to take so long. I agree that the FDA process is probably too time-consuming in some cases, but why the huuuuuge political noise for fast-tracking marijuana? You don't see the same grass roots (pun intended) protesting with catchy chants, weed-shaped hats and "clinics" on corners for arguably more urgently needed cancer or heart disease drugs.

    Let's not kid ourselves: not all but a lot - a LOT - of activists pushing for medical marijuana just want to smoke it to get high. That's not a reason to keep marijuana illegal forever, but it IS a reason to proceed very, very carefully so the hippy lobby isn't pushing us the wrong way on something that could otherwise be very useful.

  • GingerMarshall Brooklyn, OH
    Jan. 14, 2016 8:53 a.m.

    JAMA, the Journal of the American Medical Association, did a meta-study of 79 studies examining marijuana treatment for patients.

    Several areas purported to be treated by marijuana were less effective than claimed, however the marijuana was still helpful for all of those conditions.

    One area that was, unquestionably, helped by medical marijuana was chronic pain. The JAMA review found "30% or greater improvement in pain with cannabinoid compared with placebo," across the 79 studies it surveyed.

    Furthermore, the National Bureau of Economic Research found that states that legalized medical marijuana for chronic pain treatment *and* had accessible legal dispensaries had - depending on the state - a 15% to 35% decrease in both prescription painkiller abuse and in overdose deaths from prescription painkillers.

    Prescription pain killers currently kill about 16,000 people a year. It is time we legalize a safe alternative that actually works.

  • lastobeth United Kingdom, 00
    Jan. 14, 2016 8:47 a.m.

    I am very sympathetic and agree that if Cannabis can bring relief to those who are suffering it should be considered as treatment. However, sufficient tests must be carried out. My daughter smoked cannabis for a short time when she was 18 and this triggered a drug induced psychosis with schizophrenia type symptoms. I understand some people have this reaction. She has suffered terribly because of this and I would not want the awful symptoms of mental illness upon anyone.

  • Eliyahu Pleasant Grove, UT
    Jan. 14, 2016 8:31 a.m.

    The big fear seems to be that people will enjoy using it instead of dealing with unpleasant side effects. Regulate its use the same way we do with other substances. That is, keep it illegal to drive or operate heavy equipment under the influence and prohibit public intoxication. Other than that, if it can help people dealing with illness or injury, let them try it. It's safer than a lot of other drugs on the market. Heck, the LD-50 level for it would require smoking a joint the size of a Buick. I've never used it and don't desire to, but if it has the potential to bring relief to suffering, let's try it. The worst possible thing that could happen is that it might not work.

  • Me to you Vernal, UT
    Jan. 14, 2016 8:25 a.m.

    I vote that marijuana not be legalized.

  • Misty Mountain Kent, WA
    Jan. 14, 2016 8:15 a.m.

    @Jamescmeyer wrote, "Legalizing marijuana for treating pain almost seems like smoking a cigarette to stay warm; there are so many alternatives, and they are better suited."

    And please tell us what these "alternatives" are, and explain how they are better suited. If these existed, why would people with chronic pain not be taking these "better suited" remedies?

  • Misty Mountain Kent, WA
    Jan. 14, 2016 8:11 a.m.

    @cmsense wrote, "The rates of teen drug use of marijuana has greatly increased in Colorado since it was legalized."

    From what percent of teens to what percent now?

    How does these percentages compare to, say, Missouri? I'm using Missouri because it's geographically close without being close enough to easily drive to Colorado.

    How did teen use of alcohol jump when alcohol was re-legalized in 1933? Do you think we should reinstate the ban on alcohol?

    Since marijuana was legalized in Colorado, how has the use of prescription opiates increased among teens? Is this more or less of an increase than Missouri?

    Alarmist statements, especially vague ones, don't serve any argument well.

  • YoungPuppy west Jordan, UT
    Jan. 14, 2016 8:09 a.m.

    My wife has had chronic pain every day for more than the last 4 years. When she goes to a doctor all they can do for her is give her some kind of opioid pain pill. They do not help. We have tried everything possible to help her and the only thing that has relieved her pain is medical cannabis. It is not "snake oil" or a "Gateway" to other drugs as the story has been for decades. It is a medical cure that can treat and help people of many kinds of illnesses. I would do anything to take the pain away from my wife short of harming another person. If it is illegal to treat people in pain then the law needs to be changed. We can still regulate it like a prescription medication. It is currently not legal to sell prescription drugs.

    There is no reason to criminalize people that are suffering. To all those that think it should not be legal for medical use I would ask what harm does chronic pain sufferers have on our society? Would you want people suffering to go to jail just for wanting relief from pain?

  • Billy Bob Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 14, 2016 7:48 a.m.

    I am fully on board with legalizing medical marijuana. Who cares if it is a "tiny number" of people who would be helped by it? The number is not as tiny as you would think, but it would still be helping those people who need it. It would only be available with a prescription. Would there be potential for abuse? Of course there would, but there is potential for more abuse with many of the currently legal prescription medications. That is not a legitimate argument against legalizing medical marijuana. Are those who use this argument also in favor of making prescription pain pills such as morphine, vicodin, lortab, etc. illegal as well? I highly doubt it. Most of them have probably benefited from these drugs in the legal, controlled manner in which they are prescribed. Do some people abuse these prescriptions? Certainly. But that does not mean they should be made unavailable for those who need them for a medical purpose. The same is true for medical marijuana.

  • Wyomex Burlington, WY
    Jan. 14, 2016 7:48 a.m.

    Dear legislature,

    Legalizing marijuana for medical purposes is a no-brainer because it works. Legalizing marijuana for recreational purposes is a medium-brainer because what we've been doing with it being illegal hasn't worked.

    I'm your constituency. I am fifty-nine years old, conservative, held high positions in my church, never used marijuana, alcohol or other drugs.

    Of all the herbs and plants in the Garden of Eden, God only prohibited one thing. Is man trying to one-up God by prohibiting herbs and plants, which, when used with moderation or wisdom, would benefit man?

  • omni scent taylorsville, UT
    Jan. 14, 2016 7:47 a.m.

    My church says that Herbs have been ordained by God for the constitution, nature, and use of Man (D&C 89:10, Gen 1:29)
    Seems like denying them for medicinal use is an issue against my religious freedom.

  • JP Chandler, AZ
    Jan. 14, 2016 7:10 a.m.

    @DN Subscriber
    Why treat cannabis differently from any other medical drug? Yes, there's potential for abuse, but the same is true of many legal drugs.

  • Misty Mountain Kent, WA
    Jan. 14, 2016 7:08 a.m.

    DN Subscriber, this "gateway" argument has been pushed for years. You have no, repeat no data supporting this.

    Marijuana is not addictive--unlike many of the "legal" prescription drugs which Utahns take in great quantity.

    Are you concerned about "recreational use" of marijuana but not "recreational use" of alcohol? If so, please say yes or no. And please cite statistics showing that legalization of marijuana has led to an increase in crime, DUI's, and the like, if any, in states where it is legal, compared to the increase (if any) in states where it is restricted.

  • cmsense Kaysville, UT
    Jan. 14, 2016 7:01 a.m.

    The rates of teen drug use of marijuana has greatly increased in Colorado since it was legalized. It is not the panacea drug that cures all that many purport. Lets wait for convincing medical evidence before we make something illegal legal and say it is good for these 20 conditions that we wouldn't allow a pharmaceutical company to claim because of lack of controlled studies to support it. The supporters completely ignore evidence of its risks of psychosis, apathy, cognitive changes, addiction.....yes I read an article yesterday that came out this week saying 1 in 6 who use marijuana meet criteria for addiction. I've met many pot heads, many quite nice people, but I don't think it has served them well and I don't want my kids to get the wrong message. I believe in medical treatment if its legitimate. I'm worried marijuana will be the new snake oil, at least reading what good it purportedly does is reminiscent of this tonic or that from the 1800's. This country has banned outrageous claims for pharmacutical companies unless they can prove they work and marijuana should remain banned unless supporters can prove otherwise.

  • Jamescmeyer Midwest City, USA, OK
    Jan. 14, 2016 6:25 a.m.

    if I am afflicted with something that marijuana can treat, I can guarantee 100% that marijuana alone is not some magical miracle substance that fully treats that pain, with minimal side-effects, satisfactorily above all other alternatives. Legalizing marijuana for treating pain almost seems like smoking a cigarette to stay warm; there are so many alternatives, and they are better suited. The only advantages smoking a cigarette instead would have would be to satisfy a nicotine addiction unrelated to staying warm, or to pass on to my kids so they can smoke.

  • TimBehrend Hamilton, 00
    Jan. 14, 2016 5:36 a.m.

    The Colorado route is preferable with legalization and regulation of both medical and recreational marijuana. Prohibition has been destructive and corrupting, just as it was with alcohol a century ago. The issue of driving while under the influence is far less serious with cannabis than with alcohol despite the fearmongering Responsible use is the desireable norm. One way or another, the US will move away from prohibition just as it is moving away from the racism that was behind the original laws to outlaw use of the plant. Restrictions on hemp agriculture should also be lifted for environmental reasons. Utah should get out ahead of this issue, reduce the profitability of organized crime by depriving it of a contraband market, tax the sale of marijuana, and allow personal cultivation. That is the way to go.

  • emb Pleasant Grove, UT
    Jan. 14, 2016 4:11 a.m.

    It is interesting to see when the shoe is on the other foot. These folks claim to not be criminals when they violate the law, which by definition makes them criminals. When people pour over the border to find opportunity we vilify them because they are breaking the law. They too just want to be free from pain and suffering.

    It is high time we treat all people with dignity and see they first as people and not as criminals. I vote to let these people have chemicals that will help them ease their pain via a medical doctor. emb

  • common sense in Idaho Pocatello, id
    Jan. 14, 2016 3:19 a.m.

    DN Subscriber - Please reconsider your post. Please consider seriously ill children and adults who would be helped by the use of the cannibas oil. We are NOT talking about legalization of recreational use of marijuana.

    Our daughter was born with epilepsy. We tried everything possible to control those grand maul seizures. No medical stone was left unturned, including two brain surgeries. Nothing worked. We were desperate for any help possible. If cannibas oil would have been legally available we absolutely would have tried that also. Just like you we would have done anything to help our child for relief from a terrible disease that wasn't her fault.

    At age twenty four she died from epilepsy related brain trauma.

    Approving the cannibas oil for use for ill patients will not lead to all the public ills that you have described. What it will do is help relieve all the pain and suffering from those who are sick from no fault of their own.

    If no one in your family is afflicted with a terrible disease where cannibas oil could be used to relieve the suffering then count your many blessings.

  • firstamendment Lehi, UT
    Jan. 13, 2016 11:47 p.m.

    I'm sure it can't be as bad as some of the legal meds. people are taking, or alcohol, etc. I've never known anyone who died from it. If it helps, why not?

  • 1utah_man! Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 13, 2016 10:42 p.m.

    It is not a tiny amount of people would be helped. It is a lot. This is not new, only new to some. Please do some research. Please watch Dr. Sanjay Gupta's series. Israel has been using medical marijuna for decades. Please do not deny this treatment to people and children who need it. Recreational use of marijuna is already here. It's everywhere. Don't punish patients who need it.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 13, 2016 10:21 p.m.

    No legalized pot!

    Yes, there are a tiny number of people whom would be helped by medical marijuana.

    However, "medical marijuana" is a Trojan horse for recreational abuse of marijuana. Once the camel's nose is under the tent, there will be incremental demands to add more maladies, loosen the restrictions on who can prescribe it, and allow cultivation and distribution in more and more "pharmacies."

    No law can be written tightly enough to restrict use to the few who truly need it, to limit who can prescribe it or who can cultivate and sell it. It is guaranteed that, like in Colorado and Oregon, there will be "clinics" all over the place where "doctors" will (for a modest fee) prescribe "the only cure that will work" for any real or imaginary disease. This will increase the number of DUI cases, and even worse, serve as a gateway to abuse of numerous other recreational drugs, both illegal like cocaine, meth, or heroin, as well as abused prescription drugs like Oxycontin. These all translate into increased property crime, prostitution and some violent crime increases as well.

    The dangers and disadvantages to society as a whole regrettably outweigh potential medical benefits.