BYU football offseason workouts draw praise from current and former players

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  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 25, 2015 6:44 p.m.

    @Cougsndawgs

    I'm also well aware there were no BCS rankings in '84 and '96...not sure what your point there was unless it was to say there were no standards, which I already said and why...I was referring to AP ranking obviously and BYU was ranked higher in the AP going into bowl selection than utah was in 2004.

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    No, 1996 AP #5 BYU (13-1) was not ranked higher than 2004 AP #5 Utah (11-0) going into bowl selection. Would they have made the BCS bowl? No clue, that's up to you to prove.

    Did BYU help create the BCS top 6 standards? Yes!

    Did they help lower those standards to top 12 and then auto bid for top mid-major? No!

  • U West of I15, UT
    June 25, 2015 11:46 a.m.

    @Big time coug...."Unlike Utah, if BYU had joined the PAC 12, they would have been champions by now."

    Yes they would have won pac 12 and nat title. They can't compete with Mt West teams but yes you're right they would have won pac 12 for sure if they were in it.

  • Coolhead Logan, UT
    June 24, 2015 10:31 p.m.

    Wow.

    Delusional Utah fans about BYU claiming to reach for a national championship this year, and a Heisman? Isn't TysonforHeisman a favorite poster? And to hear a BYU official make the claim about national championships, just listen to Bronco at each and every media day the past 5 years, including this year.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 24, 2015 4:11 p.m.

    Uteology:
    Exactly...there were no standards in 1996 because the big conferences would NEVER allow mid major BYU (or Utah for that matter) in. The standards were established by the BCS specifically to pacify the mid major leagues...now they had something to shoot for rather than no shot at all.

    I'm also well aware there were no BCS rankings in '84 and '96...not sure what your point there was unless it was to say there were no standards, which I already said and why...I was referring to AP ranking obviously and BYU was ranked higher in the AP going into bowl selection than utah was in 2004. As for TCU I may be getting them confused with CSU, but either way the "midmajor" conferences threatened to sue and take their case to the legislature which is why the BCS, their rankings, and their "standards" were established in the first place...to give midmajor conferences a chance where before they had none.

    It galls ute fans to accept that other programs made it possible doesn't it? Like I said, U have become what you detest about BYU.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 24, 2015 3:32 p.m.

    Cougsndawgs
    West Point , UT

    Uteology:

    You try desperately to refute my point by stating Utah broke through "higher standards" set by the BCS when before BYU and TCU there was NO standard by which the good ole boys would let ANY mid-major in.

    Had Utah 2004 been only 8 years earlier they WOULD NOT have gone to a major bowl. How do I know this? Because BYU was ranked higher than '04 Utah in 1996 and were left out. After TCU accomplished similar feats with LT the WAC threatened lawsuits and the Bowl Alliance had to acquiesce to some demands made by the "mid-major" conferences.

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    Here's what TCU accomplishment in the WAC (1996-2000): 4-7, 1-10, 7-5, 8-4, 10-2

    In 2000, the final regular season ranking was #13 at 10-1.

    Please, don't let reality stop you from spinning.

    Bottom line, TCU, Utah, and BYU played by the same BCS Rules from 1996 to 2013. Over that period, final BCS rankings:

    * Utah 2 top 6

    * TCU 2 top 6

    * BYU never in the top 14

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 24, 2015 3:21 p.m.

    @Cougsndawgs

    True, the 2004 Utah team would not have gone to a major bowl 8 years earlier.
    It is also true that the 1984 BYU team would not have either under the BCS rules.

    The auto bid top 6 standards were in place from 1998-2005.

    * In 1996, there was no BCS standards therefore BYU was never ranked higher than the Utah 04 team. You are free to use the BCS formula to find out your 1996 BCS ranking. You can do the same for your 1984 team.

    * TCU only met the top 6 BCS standards in 2009 and 2010. Before the BCS era they never won more than 8 wins (1984 8-4).

    * The standards were lowered from top 6 to top 12 ONLY after what Utah accomplished, see Dennis Dodd from CBS Sports. Unfortunately for BYU, those standards were still to high.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 24, 2015 12:26 p.m.

    Uteology:
    Revisionist history? Lol...only in the crimson spin zone. You try desperately to refute my point by stating Utah broke through "higher standards" set by the BCS when before BYU and TCU there was NO standard by which the good ole boys would let ANY mid-major in. Had Utah 2004 been only 8 years earlier they WOULD NOT have gone to a major bowl. How do I know this? Because BYU was ranked higher than '04 Utah in 1996 and were left out. After TCU accomplished similar feats with LT the WAC threatened lawsuits and the Bowl Alliance had to acquiesce to some demands made by the "mid-major" conferences.

    I think instead of revisionist history, I'll just call yours utecentric history with a completely biased analysis that makes Utah look better as if they crashed the good ole boy party on their own merits. You ute fans despise BYU because of their supposed arrogance, yet you are every bit what you despise these days.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 23, 2015 11:18 p.m.

    @Cougsndawgs

    More revisionist history by Cougar Nation.

    Who raised anti-trust suits? What programs paved the way for Utah?

    Utah and TCU are the ONLY teams to meet the higher standards of a top 6 BCS ranking to an auto bid.

    Not Boise State, not NIU, not UCF, and not Hawaii. As far as BYU, those standards were just too high for BYU since they were never ranked higher than top 14.

    Conclusion, those "two glory years" were earned and Utah paved the way for others:

    “Prior to 2005, non-BCS schools had to finish in the top six to get an automatic berth. That meant the likes of Tulane (12-0, No. 10 in 1998) and Marshall (13-0, No. 12 in 1999) didn't get a shot. Utah did break through, finishing sixth in 2004.

    It took the threat of Congressional intervention for the qualification standards to be loosened prior to the 2005 season. Since then, WAC champions Boise State (2006) and Hawaii (2007) have taken advantage of the top 12 threshold to cash in on lucrative BCS paydays. But even then, both schools had to go undefeated in the regular season to get there.”

    Dennis Dodd (CBS Sports)
    9/10/2008

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 23, 2015 10:41 p.m.

    SoonerUte:
    Actually now you're making things up...careful Nav Vet will call you out on that (actually no he won't, he only does that to BYU fans...there's a word that starts with "h" for that). There were many that didn't feel BYU deserved the 1984 title precisely because of their schedule. That doesn't really go along with your "old timey days" theory where schedules were equal and undefeated meant the best (you honestly think the good ole boy club has changed that much? It hasn't). Of course that same good ole boy club included many members who didn't feel Boise, TCU, or Utah should be rewarded with BCS bowl games and being ranked where they were after their soft schedule. Fortunately, despite the good ole boy club still being the same, they've been forced into allowing "mid majors" to share some of the pie. Without other programs paving the way and raising anti-trust suits along the way you wouldn't have all those trophies to show off from those glory years...all two of them.

  • agb Layton, UT
    June 23, 2015 9:32 p.m.

    I Still Can't Say It:

    Reading comprehension not your thing huh? That's cool. Quite the leap to go from "players pleased with preseason workout" = "proclamation of preseason national championships" maybe this is the same mental gymnastics routine that got us from a jar of water at room temperature = nuclear fusion. Whatchya think?

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    June 23, 2015 3:52 p.m.

    Cougsndawgs "Ultimately rankings are about perception and not necessarily reality"
    That explains 1984.

    In those old-timey days, we thought all schedules were equal, so "undefeated" meant "the best". Thank goodness they started measuring Strength of Schedule, so we don't repeat that debacle.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 22, 2015 6:13 p.m.

    @never break .500

    BYU crushed three P5 teams when healthy? And you call us blind?

    * BYU crushed 6-7 Texas, who had a new QB and 8 starters out that game.

    * BYU had to rally at home to beat 5-7 Virgina at home, who also lost their starting QB.

    * BYU squeaked by 5-7 Cal, with your same injured players still out.

    Congrats, you proved you can beat bottom feeders of the Big 12, ACC, and PAC-12.

    In order to win a PAC-12 title you would have to most likely beat 2 ranked teams. Considering BYU hasn't beat a final ranked P5 team since 1996 and the last time you beat TWO ranked team in one season was in 1983, the chance of that happening is zero.

    Here's a suggestion, worry more about beating Utah State for 2nd place in the state and less about PAC-12 titles or National Championships.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    June 22, 2015 5:05 p.m.

    @Uteology

    I make a nice concession and you respond with a snarky hyperbole.

    Your back must ache terribly, carrying that huge chip on your shoulder...

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 22, 2015 4:41 p.m.

    Naval Vet:
    It seems completely plausible that Ute fans may tease or ask a friend to promote Utah over BYU to a FEx student. Did this even occur to you that friends use sarcasm or speak to one another in friendly jest about promoting one program over the other? No, I dare say you can't get past your BYU-hating obsession long enough to realize there are actually friendly teasings, bets, sarcasm, and pranks played in this rivalry between classy, fun-loving fans on both sides. We all don't live and die and define ourselves by what other athletes do on a football field...sadly there are some that do, like hypocritical (naive) utes that say they've moved on but can't seem to let it go (speaking of no one in particular, and mentioning no names...).

  • evansrichdm west jordan , UT
    June 22, 2015 4:31 p.m.

    Navelvet,

    I know nothing I say will prove that we have a F exchange student living in our house that cheers for BYU.
    He came to love the game of football and BYU when Hill jump over a TX player for a touch down.

    The reason a Utah fan would ask is that some of Utah fans and BYU fans like and get along with each other. Our F exchange student has made many friends in our area of town and some are utah fan some are byu fans. Our F exchange went to a couple of utah basket ball with some friends and had a good time. He just knows that he cannot wear a UofU cap in our house, but we dont keep from going to any event with his friends.
    Navelvet you are just upset the BYU football does have fan out side of Utah and even the USA.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    June 22, 2015 1:44 p.m.

    The annually perpetrated Straw-Man, that BYU fans will win a National Championship, always comes from Utah fans, not BYU fans.

    Even Bronco has stated that BYU would have to be undefeated for at least two seasons for BYU to sniff at another one. As was essentially the case in '83 & '84.

    Even after 30 years it still stings Ute fans that BYU has already "been there and done that" by winning a "Unanimous National Championship".

    Along with 17 Major Award winners... Heisman, Maxwell, Walker, Baugh, O'Brien and OUtland trophies, to name just a few.

    Keep it up Ute fans, BYU loves occupying your psyche, 24-7, Rent Free!

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    June 22, 2015 12:21 p.m.

    evansrichdm:

    "It real rather you want to believe it or not."

    I believe it NOT. You DID make that story up. No Ute fan would ask why a biased indy-irrelevant WAC-wannabe coug would promote Y football over U football.

    What a desperate age this is where Y fans have to invent anecdotal folklore just to attain a smidgeon of self-validation.

    Oh well. At least the Utes don't have that problem.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    June 22, 2015 12:17 p.m.

    Cougsndawgs:

    "Nav Vet decides that anything that doesn't coincide with the crimson narrative or causes him cognitive dissonance from his ute-centric, BYU-hating fantasies is 'made up'."

    So in other words, what you're saying -- from behind your "blue goggled" lenses no less -- is that outside of your indy-irrelevant bubble, Ute fans would actually ask a Y fan why they promote Y football to foreign exchange students? You're saying evansrichdm's tale is the plausible? You're saying that him making up that outrageous anecdote is the LEAST plausible scenerio?

    Typical hypocritical (and naive) coug.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    June 22, 2015 12:12 p.m.

    Scores:

    So we were "lucky" to beat Mont St, No. Colo, Weber St, and Ida St??? Really??? Utah had gone 13-1 in OOC play since 2011, and with that sole loss coming (1) in OT, (2) following a controversial "illegal pick" penalty that negated one of our TDs, (3) on the road, (4) vs. the 16th-ranked team in the country. And that's to say nothing of having beaten 3 ranked teams (including a Top-10 team) over those past 4-yrs. Yet you believe we were "lucky" to beat those 4 FCS teams.

    How frantic and emotional of you.

  • Scores Idaho Falls, ID
    June 22, 2015 11:15 a.m.

    Why don't all the Y haters go back and pay attention to their own team?
    2011 4-5 8-5 w Montana State
    2012 3-6 5-7 w Northern Colo.
    2013 2-7 5-7 w Weber State
    3014 5-4 9-4 w Idaho State
    = 14-22 27-23
    = .388 .540
    These numbers are real. You even had a lot of luck to get them.
    I love u Pac 10+2 Membership
    I wish u luck again this year.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 22, 2015 10:31 a.m.

    As a reminder, The U has won 4 straight over byu, 5 of 6, 9 of 12 and 14 of 21. We all know where ownership lays!

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 22, 2015 10:09 a.m.

    evansrichdm:
    Just so you're aware (and you may already be), Nav Vet decides that anything that doesn't coincide with the crimson narrative or causes him cognitive dissonance from his ute-centric, BYU-hating fantasies is "made up". Don't take it personally.

  • MurrayMike Murray, UT
    June 22, 2015 9:50 a.m.

    @ I Still Can't Say It

    Where in the world did this come from? Claiming a Natl Championship? Where in the article did you read that? I surely didn't read anything other then the fact that BYU is trying to get into the 21st century in Strength & Conditioning. Another Ute hater, as always. Even see this many BYU haters on Yte articles? I sure don't....

  • evansrichdm west jordan , UT
    June 22, 2015 9:42 a.m.

    It real rather you want to believe it or not. I was able to explain football as a game of chess. The sad part was the first game i took him to was the Utah State game last year, so there is the negative you most likely want from any BYU story. Part of the F exchange is to experience other cultures so our F exchange student explained rugby and he was rather impressed with BYU rugby.
    will he stay up to watch no, but he can watch whenever he wants on BYUtv.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    June 22, 2015 9:32 a.m.

    evansrichdm:

    "a few weeks ago I was talking football with some UofU fans. I proudly told them that I got our F. exchange student from Italy to be a fan of BYU football. They asked why not UofU?"

    This story sounds made up. Why would Utah fans ask why a biased Y fan would promote cougar football in lieu of Ute football to a foreign exchange student?

    "I said why start him watching UofU football when he wont be able to watch them back home in Italy, unlike BYU which he can watch on the internet."

    Having lived in Italy, I can honestly say...only the Americans serving/working/studying abroad watch American Football. Italians watch soccer. Your make believe foreign exchange student will likely watch as much football there as I watch soccer here. I DID watch some soccer when I was there, but never ONCE since returning back to the states.

    Also, the Pac-12 Network can be watched online.

    BTW: Italy is 8-hrs ahead of Utah, so for all those games kicking off after 3pm, nobody in Italy will be staying up to watch it.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 22, 2015 9:20 a.m.

    Also, correction: it is now the East division and not Legends anymore.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 22, 2015 9:15 a.m.

    2fer:
    Actually a good question. I think we saw that the legends division was much tougher from the B1G than anyone expected. You saw a very good, but top heavy Big 12...imagine TCU, Baylor, OSU, Oklahoma, and K-State in a division. You said outside the SEC but I'm an SEC fan and the West division was very tough last year.

    Ultimately rankings are about perception and not necessarily reality (and these perceptions cut both ways...overrated and underrated). What I do know is that a team who has no passing game and is entirely one-dimensional on offense would not score very often against better defenses...and I don't think too many CFB fans would argue that the PAC12 isn't exactly known for playing great defense. In the end, like you said, it's my opinion but I think there's some evidence to suggest there may be some validity in it.

  • evansrichdm west jordan , UT
    June 22, 2015 8:54 a.m.

    a few weeks ago I was talking football with some UofU fans. I proudly told them that I got our F. exchange student from Italy to be a fan of BYU football. They asked why not UofU? I said why start him watching UofU football when he wont be able to watch them back home in Italy, unlike BYU which he can watch on the internet. The UofU fans had to agree with that thinking and actions.

  • Forever Pac12 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 22, 2015 8:52 a.m.

    never break .500
    Los Angeles, CA

    "yeh, blind Ute fans still pointing out BYUs loss to three MWC teams last year, missing the three P5 teams we crushed when healthy. And yes, we are pointing toward a national championshipe EVERY single year in July and August…unlike the Utes who push hard and work toward 5th in the southern division of the PAC12."

    The bar byu fans use to measure the pathetic Utes keeps sliding to right. Last year, it was missing bowl games. This year, it's 5th place in the toughest division in college football and a #21 national ranking. If/when the Utes break into the upper quarter of the conference, no doubt it will be because the Pac-12 is weak. LOL!

    Yeh, we were the ones that actually had a national championship, Heisman, a LOT more ranked teams at year end…a major P5 stadium, our own DIRECTV channel, etc. etc. There are a lot of reasons for the Utes to be jeaolous even if they can get up and beat the Cougs occasionally (then fall apart throughout the rest of their schedule).

    I love posts like this from byu fans. So bitter. LOL!

  • Forever Pac12 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 22, 2015 6:53 a.m.

    BYUalum
    South Jordan, UT

    "I read this article to be we're hoping that BYU won't have so many injuries this season with this new conditioning coach. So far, the players are optimistic about that. (Period!)"

    Really? Because I don't see "hope" anywhere in this article. I see assertions mad as statements of fact. The Des News is going through their annual, "hey, look what has changed in the byu program...this year will be different" in an effort to ensure byu sells tickets. The fun part is that we have heard this refrain before.

  • never break .500 Los Angeles, CA
    June 22, 2015 4:27 a.m.

    yeh, blind Ute fans still pointing out BYUs loss to three MWC teams last year, missing the three P5 teams we crushed when healthy. And yes, we are pointing toward a national championshipe EVERY single year in July and August…unlike the Utes who push hard and work toward 5th in the southern division of the PAC12. Yeh, we were the ones that actually had a national championship, Heisman, a LOT more ranked teams at year end…a major P5 stadium, our own DIRECTV channel, etc. etc. There are a lot of reasons for the Utes to be jeaolous even if they can get up and beat the Cougs occasionally (then fall apart throughout the rest of their schedule).

    again, what is the mascot for the Utes now? a bird? an running Indian? or a BYU alum running that program?

  • BYU Joe MISSION VIEJO, CA
    June 22, 2015 12:00 a.m.

    So much anger towards BYU - even in an article like this one? How bored, mad or silly do you have to be to ride the backs of a team you don't even play against?

    I get a little smack talk - but this is just silly. Someone has too much time on their hands.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    June 21, 2015 9:34 p.m.

    @ Cougsndawgs

    "yeah but the PAC12 isn't over-rated. Lol"

    The 5th place team still won 9 games and finished ranked. That is a lot of depth in the South division. You're entitled to your opinion about the strength of the PAC-12, but which conf. or division do you honestly think is better (outside of the SEC)?

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    June 21, 2015 6:41 p.m.

    I read this article to be we're hoping that BYU won't have so many injuries this season with this new conditioning coach. So far, the players are optimistic about that. (Period!)

    No sarcasm please with your ill-conceived projections; it's not becoming to the "dignified" crimson red you so proudly wear!

    Go Cougars!

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 21, 2015 5:13 p.m.

    @idablu

    Sure there are few rare overzealous (perhaps delusional) BYU fans whose hope springs eternal, but most of us understand that BYU probably wouldn't fare any better than Utah has in a big time conference.

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    Probably?

    More like, BYU which was a speed bump to TCU and Utah's accomplishments "would" get clobbered in a real league with talent that is on par with Colorado.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 21, 2015 4:59 p.m.

    Bigtimecoug
    Houston, TX

    @Mildred

    Unlike Utah, if BYU had joined the PAC 12, they would have been champions by now.

    ---------------

    So true, they proved it last year by going 3-5 vs MWC/AAC.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 21, 2015 4:43 p.m.

    Ute fans spewing nonsense continues (despite having moved on)...making statements I have yet to see a BYU fan make and then having the insight to project that onto all BYU fans. "Boy some things never change". Go to your own articles and pat each other on the back for barely finishing above .500 and not sitting at last place in the South again.

    As for hanging with the MWC, your precious South division champion seemed to do pretty well...oh wait they got owned by the MWC champ. And the fact they lit U up makes it even funnier...yeah but the PAC12 isn't over-rated. Lol

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    June 21, 2015 3:18 p.m.

    Year in and year out, no team in the county can match BYU's off-season success.

  • Scores Idaho Falls, ID
    June 21, 2015 3:10 p.m.

    @ USP
    What kind of faith and optimism do you have for the u this year? Oh, I already know...a 5th place finish. Good luck.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    June 21, 2015 2:51 p.m.

    Sorry about the 3 entries. Computer glitch.

    Pendleton's anecdote about PoVey is just that, an anecdote that the training regimen seemed to work for him. I don't remotely see that extrapolated to National Championships and Heismans, except by Utah fans who are looking for any angle to make a dig.

    Sure there are few rare overzealous (perhaps delusional) BYU fans whose hope springs eternal, but most of us understand that BYU probably wouldn't fare any better than Utah has in a big time conference.

  • Utah Sports Fan Salt lake, UT
    June 21, 2015 1:18 p.m.

    @Bigtimecoug

    I think it would be very difficult for BYU to win the PAC 12 or any other conference considering that they lost to three Mountain West teams last year. However, I admire your blind faith and optimism. :)

  • Forever Pac12 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 21, 2015 11:57 a.m.

    In 2011 John White IV ran through, over, around, and under the overweight and slow byu defense all night long. At about this time in 2012, the Des News (probably D. Harmon) did a story about new training techniques and dietary programs to be implemented for the upcoming season that promised a decrease of injuries and unparalleled strength and energy in byu football. And...here we are again talking about the new silver bullet that will put byu at the pinnacle of college football. Wow, there's something that has never been done before...queue up the expectations.

    kaysvillecougar
    KAYSVILLE, UT

    "It's funny that people like "I still can't say it" claim that an article about conditioning implies that cougar fans think we'll win a national championship this year."

    So, kaysvillecougar, please explain what is "implied" by the following assertion:

    "But in three months with Pendelton, Povey tested in the 99th percentile in the SPARQ rating for NFL pro days for college athletes and had the fastest shuttle run and three cone drill times in the nation."

    Fastest in the entire nation! Povey was drafted in what round?

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    June 21, 2015 10:31 a.m.

    I know the previous trainer was old school (probably why Bronco liked him) and his methods probably contributed to the many injuries. It is about time BYU had a trainer who was up on the current science. Kudos to Bronco for bringing him on board.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    June 21, 2015 10:29 a.m.

    @ I Still Can't Say It

    "It appears BYU is claiming its pre-season national championship and Heisman right on queue. Boy, some things never change."

    Uhh... The only mention of national championship or Heisman is in a Ute fan comment.
    Some things never change.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    June 21, 2015 10:23 a.m.

    @I Still can't Say It

    "It appears BYU is claiming its pre-season national championship and Heisman right on queue. Boy, some things never change."

    Uhh... The only mention of national championship or Heisman is from a U fan comment. Some things never change.

    I know the previous trainer was old school (probably why Bronco liked him) and his methods probably contributed to the many injuries. It is about time BYU had a trainer who was up on the current science.

  • Cougarista Salt Lake City, UT
    June 21, 2015 10:18 a.m.

    Interesting information. Why any negative comments?

  • BlackDiamond Provo, UT
    June 21, 2015 10:04 a.m.

    We always do good during the offseason.

  • Xpat1961 Oslo, Norway, 00
    June 21, 2015 10:03 a.m.

    @ISCSI

    Who made these claims? No one but you. Is that your prediction for 2015/16?

  • kaysvillecougar KAYSVILLE, UT
    June 21, 2015 9:32 a.m.

    Sorry mind games, the only love you'll get from U fans is . . . . never mind, you'll rarely see anything positive from them. It's funny that people like "I still can't say it" claim that an article about conditioning implies that cougar fans think we'll win a national championship this year. This is a favorite Ute tactic and easy to recognize.

  • bamafone Salem, UT
    June 21, 2015 8:56 a.m.

    With this glowing report, I expect a national championship. Along with all pre season reports about BYU, they should have been national champs every year for the past 30 years.

  • Bigtimecoug Houston, TX
    June 21, 2015 8:33 a.m.

    @Mildred

    Unlike Utah, if BYU had joined the PAC 12, they would have been champions by now.

  • mindgames Aurora, CO
    June 21, 2015 8:19 a.m.

    Can we get a little love here. Dick's just trying to give us some insight into the strength and conditioning program at BYU and how it expects to decrease injuries and increase performance.

    Just a little offseason article to bridge the dog days of summer.

  • Taysom4Heisman Heber City, UT
    June 21, 2015 7:41 a.m.

    I think it's kind of sad that BYU has been behind everyone else in terms of strength and conditioning for so long. It looks like Frank will help BYU catch up to the pack. Will it put BYU ahead of everyone else? I don't know, and I frankly doubt it, but they should at least be on a level playing field now, instead of being slower than just about everyone they play.

    I don't know how big of an impact this will have, but I have to think that it will help to some degree. My big question is... Why don't we get Jordan Pendleton on the staff too? Get him and Wintrich working together.

    I know there are limitations on the number of staff members you can have, but there has to be some way to work Pendleton in with current (instead of former) players while keeping the rules on the number of employees.

  • I Still Can't Say It Holladay, UT
    June 21, 2015 1:23 a.m.

    It appears BYU is claiming its pre-season national championship and Heisman right on queue. Boy, some things never change.

  • intrinsicrewards Salem, VA
    June 20, 2015 10:42 p.m.

    Explosive strength conditioning has been around for at least 7 years that I know of at the high school level and it's proven to be successful. I find it hard to believe that this is new to BYU.

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 20, 2015 10:33 p.m.

    Post game activities should be a lot different. Sounds like "Dance like a butterfly. Sting like a bee." Should pay big dividends.

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    June 20, 2015 10:33 p.m.

    North Texas had the best conditioned athletes on the field in every game that they played. They would easily win the PAC 12 and now BYU would too.