Hmm...the US's fertility rate is just barely above replacement, and
Utah's is still less than 2.5 births per woman. I wonder where the extra
population to fuel this surge in demand is coming from? It's not just
There is no technical reason that waste water can't be refined for reuse,
they do this in Orange Co. and LA already. Look up "designer water" and
read about it. You'd think with the USU connection to the space program,
they'd have significant knowledge base to accelerate the introduction of
such processing. Using our waste water effectively is one sure way of not
needing to go find much of your future needs. Add improved water use techniques
in agriculture and we're a long way to offsetting growth driven needs.
GOP BIG GOVT is conservative for corporatism... so when they sell out the
constitutional guarantees by abridging it with patriot act, corporations united
labeled as citizens united, then fighting public safety with individual gun
rights. Next, comes breaking the Epa funding and other consumer protection and
environmental agencies in order to get a kickback for corp fav'd
legislation... well, this is an issue for the people, where their govt does not
care, so when the gop raise your taxes and blame everyone else, but take
personal responsibility you get a broken down govt that takes your money and
gives nothing in return over and over.but, brand name career politicians
like Hatch, and a few new ones who are only partisan, are not getting it,
Governing is by and for the people, not corps and the wealthy for kickbacks.That is not a Republic, nor is it conservative, nor is it a democracy... it is
Corporatism. So kiss your Democracy and governing by and for the people good
Utah's water shortage is artificially created by Utah's Water Cartel
sitting on the Water Task Force writing laws to immobilize Utah's water by
changing Utah's water transfer code 73-3-3.Utah is actually
gushing with water. Of 60 million acre-feet of annual precipitation, Utah's
uses 10% or 6 million acre-feet (1 million cities/businesses and 5 million af
for Agribusiness).The Great Salt Lake depletes 3 million acre-feet
of water a year, because of poorly planned water projects like piping water from
Spanish Fork River to Salt Lake County where its used once and discharged into
the Great Salt Lake to evaporate.The CUP promoters borrowed billions
in federal dollars to develop about 0.2 million acre-feet of water (0.1 million
for cities and 0.1 for farmers, they promised to cut 1.5 million acre-feet of
water use in Utah.Not exactly a Warren Buffet deal. Why are cities
that don't need water appointed to the CUP board?We need
someone from outside the crony system to come in and fix Utah's water like
Nevada State Engineer. District Judge Stone is presiding over a $3
water case. The Utah Supreme Court issued a water rulings over $18 worth of
Don't listen to those who say the sky is falling, stop population growth,
we are running out of water, we are running out of oil. There have always been
those worry-warts who saw the end of the world just around the corner. Malthus
in the 1700's was worried about explosive population growth that would
strip the world of its resources.When I was a kid, the pundits of
the day were saying we would run out of oil by the year 2000. They had me
worried as a child that I would one day not be able to drive a car, heat my home
or feed my family (a byproduct of running out of energy would be the inability
to harvest or transport food). This week I bought gas for $2.27 a gallon, a
price lower than the price I paid over 30 years ago, when adjusted for
inflation. Thank heaven there were innovative risk takers who found new ways to
find and recover energy who didn't listen to the naysayers.Mankind as a wonderful way of responding to challenges, and adapting. We will
adapt as the population grows.
All I can say to most of the comments above is: Wow! Do away with golf
courses? Limit growth? Limited children? Limit farming? Limit water useage
at home? I think we all know what the elephant in the room
is...but, we will just have to leave that up to the Him.
Let me see.A scientific article was recently published by a group of
scientist who have discovered with almost 100% certainty an ocean of water below
the crust of the earth containing at least twice to three times the amount of
water we have on the surface including our oceans. It's just a matter of
figuring out how to bring it up?? Can't be that hard.Pllllease.
Two thirds of the planets surface is covered in water and there's at least
twice that amount under the surface.Finite.. Really??
The population of Utah is expected to nearly double in the next 35 years. Not
if there isn't enough water. Those projections are based on past growth,
but as things get more complicated they may not pan out.
the problem isn't lack of water, it is too many people. water is a finite
resource. it wil not last forever.
I remember in past years there was a lot of discussion about the aquifer in the
southern Utah/Nevada state line region that Nevada felt it had rights to. What
was the outcome of that debate? Did Governor Herbert stand strong so that land
would not turn into a dust bowl or did he cave in - I don't recall what
happened. I agree with Essence who commented about a big pipeline to
transport water to Southern Utah from Lake Powell. It would be a huge,
inefficient, costly mistake, in my opinion. The Virgin River has a long history
of overflowing its banks - surely some underground (non-evaporating) storage
system could be devised to store/control excesses of this water until it's
needed. The St. George area used to be an oasis in the desert, amazing with its
red rocks and natural beauty. To me, it's been so over-developed that
it's more like an extension of Las Vegas and other "commercial"
cities, so much so that it's difficult to relate to its historic origin.
We need less development and more appreciation of the nature of the land we live
to essence:Jordanelle was anything but a mistake. It is called good
foresight and planning. We cannot go back to the days when there were 3,000
Europeans on American soil. Yes, we can do a better job with managing our
resources, and we should. But the folks who want to keep everything a
wilderness, avoid building pipelines to carry water and/or energy, and who want
to avoid building reservoirs and dams are not only being short-sighted, but are
being unrealistic and dangerously naive.Jordanelle has allowed many,
many more Utahan's to enjoy a spectacularly great standard of living. So
has Starvation/Strawberry. And while there were costs to building these, both
environmental and budgetary, the benefits have far outweighed the costs IMHO.
People can disagree on this, as some would be happy living in a pup-tent on
public land. But for most Utah families, these projects have been the source of
incredible opportunity and happiness.
Too bad no one seems to understand the resource is finite, not infinite. So
would you rather have water to drink, or water for 10,000 sq feet of Kentucky
Bluegrass. Water for agriculture or golf courses. The elephant in the room is
the unrestricted birthrates and the scream that we should have a tax deduction
for all of these little souls, regardless of the societal costs.Can we
make better use of grey and brown water? Use only reclaimed water on yards and
gardens? Tier culinary water prices to make the users pay, especially industrial
users of culinary water, which will drive up operating costs and interfere with
the profit margin, which in Utah is generally a no no. One thing is
certain, we haven't the water to waste on a nuclear power plant near Green
River so the Californians can have "clean green" energy. Nor do we have
enough culinary water to continue using it on private lawns and public as well
as private golf courses. Hard choices, limit use, recycle better, limit
growth, or do nothing and wait to turn the tap and watch nothing come out.
One more thought regarding Envisions Utah's "Your Utah Your Future"
online interactive model. I've done this and feel it's interesting
but question what's behind the outcomes of the inputs. A model is only as
effective as the assumptions that were used to create it. When I went through
the model, I had lots of questions about why I got the answers I did. It's
not completely clear to users.
"the 2 best ways to address the water issue is population control; aka stop
all of the incessant developments that only lead to a declining quality of life
for those already in Utah as more and more people move there"Utah's population growth is much more a factor of high birth rate than
net migration. If you truly want to address "population control" you
would be best served by talking to the child producing locals.
The left likes to pontificate about overpopulation, a favorite theme since the
beginning of time. If the left wouldn't block every water project from
dams to pipelines, we could solve most every problem with a little forethought
I write in response to this comment: "If it hadn't been for Jordanelle,
we would have been in serious trouble," he said, adding that environmental
groups mounted stiff opposition to the project, which was completed in 1993.
"There were groups who did not want that built," he said. The question
is: Did Jordanelle solve the problem or exacerbate the problem? I and others
would answer that it exacerbated the problem by making more growth happen which
has now put us in the same situation. The Lake Powell Pipeline and other huge
projects will not solve our problem either. Growth will come until there is no
more water and then we will need to learn to survive with what we have and make
do. Other places have done it. They have not withered and died on the vine.
They've used innovative ideas. That's what we should be going -
innovating not sticking to the tried and true of building more big projects that
just will need more maintenance and add to the problem.
The west will always be limited by water. Intelligent use will allow longer use
of the resource. There are 134 Golf Courses In Utah, sucking up acre feet of
water a year. Green summer lawns have to go, native plants must be used for
landscape, and reclaimed water are some keys to the future. Drought or
abundence, water bats last.
"15 year drought"? What? Did I miss something? I lived in Utah from
2005 - 2012, and 3 of the 7 years saw snow totals well in to the 600" range
at several of the ski areas. That being said . . . the 2 best ways to
address the water issue is population control; aka stop all of the incessant
developments that only lead to a declining quality of life for those already in
Utah as more and more people move there. The second prong should be limiting
the amount of water supplied to farmers. Most of Utah is a desert that cannot
support much plant life without the assistance of artificially enhanced
irrigation. Crops should not be grown in a desert when we have plenty of viable
areas in the US much more capable of growing crops. Leave the farming to the
midwest and plains states where the only water problem we've had the past
few years is too much of it.
Thank you Amy. This is a timely article and reminder. Clearly the limited
allocation of water is not just a farcical creation as demonstrated by the
diverse group of voices sharing their concerns. Now is the time to protect this
most precious of resources. Let's do it! It is worth it!
The Bear River is the largest tributary to the Great Salt Lake - where we build
a massive pump project to ensure that the lake did not overflow.Would in not make sense to divert a large amount of that fresh water into Salt
Lake County and thus releasing much of the water they draw from other areas of
the state? We all would have won with a little better thinking by Gov. Bangerter
by thinking of fresh water use instead of how to pump briny water.
Lots of people are OK with conserving our resources as long as they don't
have to make any changes or be caused any inconvenience.For
examples, see Low-Flush toilets and CFL bulbsIf people are vocal
about these minor minor issues, think about the outrage if they are asked to
make a REAL sacrifices.
I understand that Los Angeles is running a large reclamation project that has
worked really well in water management? I can't seem to find the article
at the moment, but it might be one to invest in for Utah's urban areas.
" Groundwater mining or overpumping in Utah has led to restrictions on new
development."Oh, perish the thought! We can't possibly
have enough development!
"The population of Utah is expected to nearly double in the next 35
years."THAT's the problem, the elephant in the room. We
keep debating what bandaid solutions to use, rather than curing the disease. The
planet is not growing, its resources are finite, and in this case there is just
so much water than recirculates every year in Utah. It is high time that we said
"enough is enough." STOP the growth!