Did officer who shot Darrien Hunt use excessive force in house party raid?

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  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Oct. 29, 2014 10:46 a.m.

    @Draft dumbie: Just watch a few episodes of "Cops" they do it all the time, and they know they're on camera, can't imagine how it is when they know they aren't being recorded.

  • Draft dumbie Farmington, UT
    Oct. 29, 2014 10:03 a.m.

    As a former prosecutor, I was personally present at numerous interviews when police detectives routinely, intentionally lied to suspects in order to induce confessions. Also, in our prosecutor's office, we were aware that certain police officers had a reputation for routinely lying on police reports, overstating the purported facts of a purported crime in order to manipulate and induce the prosecutors to "overcharge" the crimes concerning the incident, so that when a plea agreement was reached, it would be for the actual crime committed, and not for a lesser crime.

    Although I recognize that there are many exceptional police officers who always act with integrity, and although I am not so jaded as to believe that all policemen lie all the time, my personal experiences with policemen, including my experiences as a prosecutor, make me hard pressed to believe that all police officers always act properly and always tell the truth in all situations. Anyone who believes that has clearly never had any significant experience with law enforcement, and could reasonably be characterized as an uninformed "pollyanna."

  • JayTee Sandy, UT
    Oct. 27, 2014 10:54 p.m.

    Another sad saga of our totally failed "war on drugs," where we get to spend our tax money to protect people from THEMSELVES. Why don't we put our resources into something productive, like stopping crimes against unwilling victims, like getting the drunks off the roads or addressing real assault cases? We've gone way overboard trying to Super Nanny the population and make sure everyone's living up to the standards of those who disapprove of certain types of behavior. And as for the monitoring and regulation of kids, that should be the job of PARENTS, not governmental agencies.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Oct. 27, 2014 12:28 p.m.

    Some Police enjoy "teaching a kid a lesson" there's alway a few on the force.

    play by the rules said: "The police showed up at my house at 2AM one morning looking to arrest someone who had lived at the home previously. They banged on the door and I answered it."

    Oh Goody for you. Had you been 20 seconds late though, your door would be on the ground with a foot in the back of your neck gun pressed to your head, while a officer tells you to shut your blankety blank mouth, he'll be the one asking the questions. That's what happened to my friend after his "bad " child had moved out 2 years earlier and was actually in prison, great record keeping by Utah county there too.

    They should be held to a higher standard because they are given more latitude under the law.

  • LOU Montana Pueblo, CO
    Oct. 27, 2014 11:16 a.m.

    Having lived in Utah for 22 years I have always loved the double standards of the wonderful people of that great state.

    Conservative scream that they hate big government and the police state until the police kill a black kid. Then they all come out to support the very police state that they hate.
    I am must speechless........I mean REALLY!

  • Jim Cobabe Provo, UT
    Oct. 27, 2014 10:33 a.m.

    Drunken drug parties used to be so safe and peaceful.

    Can't trust anything these days.

  • Hey It's Me Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 27, 2014 8:58 a.m.

    If the kids did nothing wrong why were they trying to run out the basement door and why did they hide behind water heaters. That doesn't sound like kids that were doing nothing wrong. Next if a policeman tell you to move you better do it and if not you get taken to the floor with handcuffs and dragged to a room. You wouldn't have been in that situation at all if you weren't doing something wrong. As for calling the School Administrator, maybe the girl was afraid to let her parents know she had been there. At least she was smart enough to get out of the situation that she knew was not a good one. At least she could call an adult that she trusted and got out.

  • Kora Cedar Hills, UT
    Oct. 27, 2014 8:37 a.m.

    TMR- I don't see misconduct here. What I see is parents who have quit disciplining their children because they want them to like them. Your job as a parent is not to make your kids like you, but teach them to be responsible adults.
    It is no wonder most prisoners blame others instead of themselves for the position they are in. Today, it is always someone else's fault when you get in trouble. There is no personal responsibility. This is just liberalism creeping in everywhere. Our own President and Attorney General are telling people that it is not their fault. With this being the case, why should we expect different from the populace, including these teens and parents.

    These parents seem to think there kids drinking and being around or smoking pot is doing nothing wrong. Certainly not how I was raised, and I did not grow up in a "stuffy Mormon household" that liberals like to attack. My sister was at a party like that once, and my parents let her spend a night in police custody.

  • TMR Los Angeles, CA
    Oct. 27, 2014 8:18 a.m.

    Credit to the D-News for exposing a pattern of misconduct by the police that helps explain the tragic loss of Darrien Hunt's life.

  • skibird Spanish Fork, UT
    Oct. 27, 2014 7:50 a.m.

    From what it sounds to me a bunch of high school kids got caught smoking dope and drinking and are playing "the mean cops scared me" card to try to get out of trouble from their parents. The bad part is the parents are soaking it right up and blaming the cops instead of their own kids who were breaking the law.

  • hockeymom Highland, UT
    Oct. 27, 2014 7:16 a.m.

    Sounds like police officers doing their job. Thank You Saratoga Springs PD. If this happened 30 years ago - the parents would be disciplining their kids, rather than making excuses for them. They'd be thanking the cops for saving their kids from driving under the influence. Did the parents even know where their kids were and what they were doing? "Good kids" are home in bed or studying at 2:00am.

    Sounds like one child was smart enough to call and get some help out of there. Probably too embarrassed to call home, she trusted the adult and asked for help. I applaud the school official who cares more about the safety of the kid than the protocol.

  • LOU Montana Pueblo, CO
    Oct. 27, 2014 6:37 a.m.

    Slowly the facts are coming out. Soon the conservatives will turn and run away.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Oct. 27, 2014 5:28 a.m.

    This was news back in February. Now it's just jury coaching.
    Same on the Deseret News for participating in this defense strategy. Lawyers for the Hunt family must have a great deal of influence.

  • Legal? Saint George, UT
    Oct. 26, 2014 11:31 p.m.

    One parent states that they teach their children to respect authority. Authority should also include the laws. These young people were smoking marijuana and some were drinking. They were underage at a home where there was no adult supervision. They (and their parents) need to go back to authority class. :)

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 26, 2014 11:09 p.m.

    Lots of teenagers are not the well behave angels their parents think they are.

    Sorry, parents, your judgment is badly skewed by the involvement of your sweet innocent children who were doing nothing wrong, or so you think. Did you know or care about what your kids were doing before the cops arrived to use "excessive force?"

    One of their peers initially reported "...about 20 kids at a house party where drugs and alcohol were being used" and responding cops smelled lots of marijuana and got a warrant to make a raid. Sounds serious to me.

    This party was at the home of another cop, who was out of town and he had not approved of any party. Good parents usually ask about party locations and parental involvement, before allowing their kids to attend. Not here.

    Two cops entering a house full of likely drunk or stoned teens at 2:00 AM cannot risk their personal safety by losing control of the situation.

    I believe the cops over the parents who accepted the self serving denials of the drug abusing teens, or the grief stricken parents of the kid who lunged at cops with a sword.

  • Midwest Mom Soldiers Grove, WI
    Oct. 26, 2014 9:08 p.m.

    Why would a youth call a school administrator, rather than a parent or other responsible relative? How would she get the administrator's personal number? It is against school policies for staff to pick up students and give them rides, especially late at night. I seem to remember the same kind of stories when the DN was running articles about teachers who were arrested for having inappropriate contact with students.

  • play by the rules SOUTH JORDAN, UT
    Oct. 26, 2014 7:59 p.m.

    The police showed up at my house at 2AM one morning looking to arrest someone who had lived at the home previously. They banged on the door and I answered it.