All these complaints about our corrupt legislature, so who are you going to vote
for next time? Yeah, thats what I thought. Nothing will ever change as long as
you keep voting for the same party every time.
Orem Parent: "Oh and boo hoo for the families that have to travel a bit to
see their inmate."You're missing the point...yes, the
families will have to travel farther. But so will any volunteers, and one of
the things that has been praised in the past about the Utah State Prison is how
many services are provided by volunteer organizations. Moving it further away
will discourage such activities, and the difference will be picked up by the
Utah taxpayer. Add in the additional cost (and it will be significant) of
transporting prisoners to and from court, and the difficulty to hire qualified
guards who are likely unwilling to relocate to the middle of nowhere. You know
what happens when you can't attract enough employees? You must increase
wages. Who pays those wages? Again, the Utah taxpayer. Others
have mentioned that we'll be swindled just by building and relocating the
thing, but the ongoing costs will be significant and unending.
Flashback and Iron Guy are on target. The prison relocation will be the biggest
boondoggle in Utah History. Thirty years from now when the cost is quadrupled
and Utah taxpayers are on the hook for perhaps 2 billion dollars. The people who
were on the commission will likely be dead but people will ask how did we let
this boondoggle happen. It will be similar to the big dig in Boston Harbor that
cost so much more than anticipated. The epa,water resources,litigation over
prisoners rights the exposure to lawsuits is almost endless.The prison should
stay where it is and buildings demolished and rebuild right where it is. It will
be a huge economic drag for our state for the next 30 years plus and the 700
acres will be the worst land swap in Utah's history.
they have to notify their developer friends first so that they can make some
sweet real estate deals prior to the announcement
This whole prison relocation project will go down as the biggest, most cosmic
taxpayer rip-off in the history of Utah. Who will benefit? The
developers who stand to MAKE hundreds of millions.Who will pay? The
taxpayers, who will SPEND hundreds of millions to re-locate a perfectly suitable
facility that's fine right where it is. I've looked at the
figures. No way does the revenue from selling the land even begin to cover the
cost of building a new prison. Where's the outcry? Where's
the outrage? Why are my fellow taxpaying Utahns rolling over and playing dead
for these bandits?
This is all about enriching developers who are salivating over the Draper land.
If you want to update the prison, build in place and take down the old
buildings. don't move the prison out to the boonies. When I heard that
one of the Ivory's was in on the commission, I thought who stands to gain
the most? That would be developers. Who stands to lose the most? The
Of course not. They have to make all of their private land deals first before
the make any announcement. Should we expect anything different?
Why in the world would they put it as close as Saratoga Springs? Do they not
realize how fast that area is growing? We will have the same dilemma 10 years
from now. Put it out in the middle of nowhere. Not 100 miles away but put it
25 miles away from any homes. Then if people choose to build near it, it is
their own issue. If there are so many positives about having a
prison in your neighborhood, why are they wanting to move it at all?Oh and boo hoo for the families that have to travel a bit to see their inmate.
As a taxpayer I want to know where the sites are and who owns them, As taxpayers
we are kept in the dark way to much in the selection process.