Commission not ready to announce top sites for prison relocation

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  • mcclark Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 23, 2014 3:28 p.m.

    All these complaints about our corrupt legislature, so who are you going to vote for next time? Yeah, thats what I thought. Nothing will ever change as long as you keep voting for the same party every time.

  • OHBU Columbus, OH
    Oct. 23, 2014 2:30 p.m.

    Orem Parent: "Oh and boo hoo for the families that have to travel a bit to see their inmate."

    You're missing the point...yes, the families will have to travel farther. But so will any volunteers, and one of the things that has been praised in the past about the Utah State Prison is how many services are provided by volunteer organizations. Moving it further away will discourage such activities, and the difference will be picked up by the Utah taxpayer. Add in the additional cost (and it will be significant) of transporting prisoners to and from court, and the difficulty to hire qualified guards who are likely unwilling to relocate to the middle of nowhere. You know what happens when you can't attract enough employees? You must increase wages. Who pays those wages? Again, the Utah taxpayer.

    Others have mentioned that we'll be swindled just by building and relocating the thing, but the ongoing costs will be significant and unending.

  • New to Utah PAYSON, UT
    Oct. 23, 2014 12:54 p.m.

    Flashback and Iron Guy are on target. The prison relocation will be the biggest boondoggle in Utah History. Thirty years from now when the cost is quadrupled and Utah taxpayers are on the hook for perhaps 2 billion dollars. The people who were on the commission will likely be dead but people will ask how did we let this boondoggle happen. It will be similar to the big dig in Boston Harbor that cost so much more than anticipated. The epa,water resources,litigation over prisoners rights the exposure to lawsuits is almost endless.The prison should stay where it is and buildings demolished and rebuild right where it is. It will be a huge economic drag for our state for the next 30 years plus and the 700 acres will be the worst land swap in Utah's history.

  • CMO Beaver Beaver, UT
    Oct. 23, 2014 12:03 p.m.

    they have to notify their developer friends first so that they can make some sweet real estate deals prior to the announcement

  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    Oct. 23, 2014 10:13 a.m.

    This whole prison relocation project will go down as the biggest, most cosmic taxpayer rip-off in the history of Utah.

    Who will benefit? The developers who stand to MAKE hundreds of millions.
    Who will pay? The taxpayers, who will SPEND hundreds of millions to re-locate a perfectly suitable facility that's fine right where it is.

    I've looked at the figures. No way does the revenue from selling the land even begin to cover the cost of building a new prison.

    Where's the outcry? Where's the outrage? Why are my fellow taxpaying Utahns rolling over and playing dead for these bandits?

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Oct. 23, 2014 7:17 a.m.

    This is all about enriching developers who are salivating over the Draper land. If you want to update the prison, build in place and take down the old buildings. don't move the prison out to the boonies. When I heard that one of the Ivory's was in on the commission, I thought who stands to gain the most? That would be developers. Who stands to lose the most? The taxpayers.

  • Lifelong Republican Orem, UT
    Oct. 22, 2014 9:26 p.m.

    Of course not. They have to make all of their private land deals first before the make any announcement. Should we expect anything different?

  • Orem Parent Orem, UT
    Oct. 22, 2014 7:00 p.m.

    Why in the world would they put it as close as Saratoga Springs? Do they not realize how fast that area is growing? We will have the same dilemma 10 years from now. Put it out in the middle of nowhere. Not 100 miles away but put it 25 miles away from any homes. Then if people choose to build near it, it is their own issue.

    If there are so many positives about having a prison in your neighborhood, why are they wanting to move it at all?

    Oh and boo hoo for the families that have to travel a bit to see their inmate.

  • stevo123 slc, ut
    Oct. 22, 2014 6:21 p.m.

    As a taxpayer I want to know where the sites are and who owns them, As taxpayers we are kept in the dark way to much in the selection process.