Brigham Young emphasized that the LDS church and religion believes in and
accepts all truth, regardless of its source, and thus incorporates into
it's overall doctrine. Additional truths concerning our
existence are being revealed to us as time goes on and as our need to know
evolves. It was revealed to Moses (per the Pearl of Great Price) that life does
indeed exist on other planets, and which are all creations of God. There is no
end to His dominion, glory and kingdoms. One side-note... Many
hypotheses of men, which may seem like truth, don't necessarily constitute
truth, which by it's very definition is unerring and unchangable.
In the LDS Church it's Known Doctrine, we are not alone! Adam, Abraham,
Moses, all the Prophets given visions of it have seen we just are not alone in
this Universe! Reason would tell any plain man starring into space on a clean
night and contemplating the universe with all those stars knowing each star has
planets orbiting it, have to know in their conscience and by the Spirit of God,
it just can't be that we are all "alone". You can't begin to
count the stars, and if each star had only 1 planet revolving around it, what
are the chances we are the only intelligent life in the universe? About a
million to one, maybe a zillion to one. God has revealed through script, we are
not alone, all you need to do is read it, to look up at the stars, and pray, God
has told us again and again we just are not alone! I'll even go so far as
to say other planets know the Atonement took place on another world, Ours!
Atonement has been made for other Gods Children as well on other worlds and
As a Jew, I would have no problem at all with life on other planets, intelligent
or not. Our scriptures are silent on the subject, neither affirming, denying, or
even discussing the possibility. What would they look like? Who knows? When
we're told that God created man in his own image, it's obviously not a
reference to our physical bodies unless you're ready to believe that the
Creator of the Universe is about six feet tall with a body subject to various
ills and breakdowns and needs to use the toilet several times a day. I'd
like to imagine that there are many planets where the inhabitants managed to
avoid temptation and live without sin. Otherwise, if free agency automatically
creates sin and failure, it would suggest that God's designs are inherently
@Tyler "There’s too much in for all involved – leaders want the
control and followers cannot tolerate their own fear of death or the
unknown."Tyler, I respectfully suggest that you are quite
mistaken about your assumptions regarding dominant motivations behind most
religions--at least the one I am most familiar with. Most people are worried
about their making ends meet and their families and doing good in the world. I
haven't met anyone that resemble Siggy from "What About Bob," and
I've met thousands...
I have a hard time believing UFOs visit this world filled with visitors form
other plants to see where Christ was born and walked. Why visit a world full of
sin and in a sad state of glory? In addition we are under a set of govorned
eternal rules how the plan of salvation pertains to the inhabitants of this
earth. Anything from the outside would contradict and interfere with that.We are visited by extraterrestrials, no doubt about that. They are
called angels and exhaled beings. A couple of men we know as Heavenly Father and
Jehovah made a visit together to a young boy known as Joseph Smith.For all we know Christ has also visited other worlds and has.Abraham saw people and creatures not of this world in a vision praising the
No religions has ever stated that God created life on other planets. Those that
stated there was "life' on other planets did so to cover the
"future". All religious doctrines and covenants have been written to
emphasize that we mortals here on planet earth are the "one and only".
Where have I heard that before?Should there prove to be some form of life
on the other planets I suppose that the major religions will jump up and say
"I told you so" , and then proceed to write donation requirements for
the newly founded members.
@JoeBlowIt is an interesting point you bring up. Let us see the religion
of science:In my time in school we were told that with all the harm people
were doing to the earth, science proved that another ice age was on the way.
Very convinient for science - much money to be made.Now, we are headed for
global warming. Again, very convinient - much more money to be made.You are right, religions do find flocks to believe anything they are told.
NT, SomewhereIn, UTPerhaps the return of the 12th Imam is more
likely? And sooner rather than later?Very interesting times, indeed,
I agree.More and more it leads to the conclusion that the only true
hope we have is cooperation, the values of secular humanism, and science.
LDS liberalYou think there are no genetic pre-dispositions? Talk
about being in denial.
Conversely, what will be the reaction of the non-spiritual, the atheists, the
agnostics, the "scientists" - when Jesus returns in His glory to rule
and reign for a millenium? I think that will be an interesting time, for sure.
The bigger concern would be the reaction of the non-spiritual, not the
spiritual. I do not say non-religious or religious because it is the people that
are easy to harbor hard feelings that will have the hardest time dealing with
the realities of the universe.With that in mind, I think the most
shock might come upon realizing how similar the "aliens" are to us. They
might not look all that special and maybe even less than average by some
standards of our societies. Yet, they could be far more advanced in terms of
wealth, knowledge, health etc. Then we could see a level of envy, greed and
resentment never seen before on this planet. My guess is compared to
the rest of the universe the quality of life here on earth may not scratch the
surface to what is possibly out there. From an LDS/Mormon perspective, one of
the most significant parts of mortal life is recognizing our current state as a
learning opportunity and accepting our current roles as a step towards our
"There is no doubt that religion would adapt to conclude that life on other
planets is proof that they were right.Religious leaders make
statements. The flock accepts them on faith. Some prove to be correct, some
incorrect."-JoeBlowYou could also remove the words
"religion/religious" in your statement and instead insert
"atheiests/atheist" and you would be, undoubtedly, equally right.
Like the issue of Global Warming, most Christian groups would deny the existence
of life in outer space no matter how much evidence supported it. Keeping the
proverbial head in the sand is the modus operandi of most religious faiths.
Don't forget Joseph Smith said there were people living on the moon and
Brigham Young said they lived on the Sun too.
LOL..............Now how would our government react to it? Would they still aim
the nuclear warheads towards outer space?
Scriptures of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints state clearly, as
others have indicated, that there are countless other worlds very like ours, as
well as other more glorious worlds. There are three orders: celestial,
terrestrial and telestial orbs all inhabited by sons and daughters of God. We
live on the lowest order of these three types of populated planets and we will
be sorted according to our performance in this mortal stage, every individual
being graded justly for that higher world for which he or she is most suited.Mortal people live on telestial worlds, and there are also countless
higher planets inhabited by angels, and still others inhabited by translated men
and women graduating from our own and other telestial planets. This is also
stated, though in less detail, in the Bible as the Apostle Paul stated that
there are bodies celestial and bodies terrestrial, one being less and one being
Article quote: "I think if you walk down Main Street of any town in the
U.S., you would find that many people believe in extraterrestrial life. But if
you then asked them to explain if that life is compatible with their own
religion, they would be pretty confused," Weintraub said."They obviously never talked to a practicing Mormon. Latter-day Saints know
that God has created "worlds without number".And so what
would we do when we meet them?We'll reach out, shake their hand
and say "Hello, brother."
I’m a little bit surprised that the article, especially being on Deseret
News and all, doesn’t mention this, but the one Christian group that
almost certainly would have no problem whatsoever with the discovery of life on
other worlds is the Latter-Day Saints. Our scriptures and doctrine already teach
that such life exists (both in the Book of Moses and in the Doctrine and
Covenants), so such a discovery would just be an affirmation of Joseph
Smith’s prophetic call rather than something that would or should cause
any kind of crisis of faith or cause any Latter-Day Saint to call his or her
beliefs into question. The article is correct however about the
devastating impact that such a discovery would have on Evangelicals; I would
like to imagine that perhaps the discovery of life on other worlds would cause a
mass defection from Evangelical Protestantism into the Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-Day Saints, but given the longstanding and deep-seated antipathy between
the two groups, that’s probably not realistic. Oh well. One can dream.
I've always thought they would react badly. Religions are all rooted in a
creation story, with us right smack in the middle. We know god because
we're created by god in the image of god. Finding life, even evidence of
life, on another planet will upset that core tenet. God created us, and life
here, why is there life elsewhere?In the end, of course, religion will
adapt, and the show will go on. The gig is too good to give up.
‘How would religions react to the discovery of life on other
planets?’====About the same way they already have
reacted to other Scientific discoveries like: -- We are not the
Center of the Universe, The Earth is not flat, Drunkenness is a
chemical reaction to Alcohol, and not "spirits", bacteria causes
diseases, not God's punishment on sin, Genetic dispositions
[gayness], Global Warming, Evolution...Denial!I'm good with ALL Truth -- beit Scientific OR Religious.
I would only add that the Book of Moses, which is of course LDS, says that God
created worlds without number. And we certainly can believe that, what with
todays modern telescopes like Hubble and the ones looking at the invisible
energy in the universe. I guess Moses had a pretty good telescope in his day.
Or for you non believers, Joseph Smith. Good guess, considering the stars you
could see in his day in the night sky would not add up to a grain of sand on a
beach compared with what we can see today.
illuminated, one point to consider. We on Earth have only been sending out
signals, radio and TV for a few decades now. In other words, only about 70 or
so light years. That's not very far from Earth. And others thousands or
millions of light years away could not send us any signals that would get here
anytime soon either.
"No adaptation necessary when the religion has explicitly stated since its
founding that there is life on other planets."And hence my
point. Life found? See, we were correct. Even if the life is just
single cell organisms.No life found? Doesn't mean it does not exist.
It just hasnt been found.The problem comes when the
"predictions" become provable.Sun and Moon are inhabited. Proven false. Means nothing. Brother B was just speaking his
opinion.Until someone can show me the distinction between
"prophetic" words and personal opinion, it appears to me like a coin
toss. I'm a visionary when I am right and an ordinary person when I am
not.How grand would life be if everyone gave me that benefit.
>>There is no doubt that religion would adapt to conclude that life on
other planets is proof that they were right.No adaptation necessary
when the religion has explicitly stated since its founding that there is life on
I actually wrote a book, that was never accepted for print. But the premise was
that there are other beings on other planets. That "UFOs" are simply
visitors from other planets looking to see the planet where their creator was
born, lived, atoned for the sins of all of his creations, died, and then was
resurrected. They come her just the same as many Christians would love to visit
the Holy Land". These Beings would look similar to us as we are all created
in His image. However, I think that there will be some difference as well.
Perhaps eyes that have different tints than Homo Sapiens eyes, etc.
Wondering about God is good. Wondering about what He is capable of doing is
good. Wondering why there would be other worlds with people created in the
image of God is good. Any time we ponder the existence of God and
wonder about His creations is time well spent.
There is no doubt that religion would adapt to conclude that life on other
planets is proof that they were right.Religious leaders make
statements. The flock accepts them on faith. Some prove to be correct, some
incorrect.The Religious use both as proof of their correctness.It is rather entertaining.
>>I wonder how Mormons would react if the intelligent life we found
looked nothing like us at all and were in fact completely different types of
lifeforms.We would find it fascinating; admit that we know only a
small part of how God does His work; and take it on faith that someday someday,
all truth, whether learned through science or revelation, will mesh together in
a consistent way.
@ DonnTo be fair though, when pressed on if that was a personal belief or
something he knew as a prophet President Young admitted it was just his personal
belief which was not too far from popular thought at the time.
"How would religions react to the discovery of life on other
planets?"Probably no better than they've reacted to the
study of life on THIS one. Think about it:There are religions that
deny evolution, that deny primatology.There are religions that deny
geoscience, that deny plate tectonics, that deny archaeology.There
are religions that deny biology, that deny anthropology, that deny
paleontology.I wouldn't expect anything approaching a rational
analysis from clerics and religious hierarchies trying to not so much explain
something new which is outside their theological foundation, as trying to
shoehorn it in. It wouldn't be pretty. I don't happen to
believe that rational, fact-based thought, and acceptance of the reality of
natural forces and processes is antithetical to holding spiritual beliefs.
Unfortunately, I see too many instances of dogmatic faith being used to justify
willful ignorance. Denying scientific reality is hardly evidence of spiritual
enlightenment.Luckily, encountering sentient lifeforms from another
planet is statistically unlikely, so we may succeed in avoiding that particular
embarrassment. We'll have plenty of others, though.
Let's all hie to Kolob.
RE: Extra-Terrestrials. As far back as 1837, I (JS)know that he said the Moon
was inhabited by men and women the same as this earth, and that they lived to a
greater age then we do, that they live generally to near the age of 1,000 years.
"He described the men as averaging near six feet in height, and dressing
quite informally in something near the Quaker style. Brigham Young:
"Who can tell us of the Inhabitants of this little planet that shines of an
evening called the MOON?...when you inquire about the Inhabitants of that sphere
you find that the most learned are as ignorant in regard to them as the ignorant
of their fellows. So it is in regard to the Inhabitants of the SUN. Do you think
it is inhabited? I rather think it is. Do you think there is any life there? NO
Question of it..
We talk about "intelligent life", but there are lots of intelligent
species (dolphins and chimpanzees, for example). I think finding "life with
moral agency" on other worlds would be the real goal.Will it
looks "human-like?" If some wookie comes down in a spaceship,
we'll just have to examine what he looks like without all that hair.
@ The WraithThat's what most folk assume but it's not stated as
such. Oddly enough this was explored in a video game called Advent Rising about
10 years ago which, if i recall correctly, had the script done by Orson Scott
Card. Overall I think most LDS people would be surprised for non-human aliens
but it wouldn't conflict with any doctrine.
The Pope before this one said if aliens landed the Catholic church would offer
them baptism. Does anyone besides me find this odd? Why would they need to come
here to get baptised? Assuming they needed it wouldn't God make it
available on their own planet? If Catholic baptism is needed the Universe wide
then all the people on all the other planets that don't or can't make
it to earth are just out of luck? That would be poor planning on Gods part.
I would also love to see the reaction of the religious communities, I have also
wondered which faiths would break down and which ones would continue if
extra-terrestrial life was found. The truth is probably all of them would
continue . Every religion can and has squared its teachings with whatever fact
comes along that was previously contradictory to their beliefs. It has been
happening with evolution, heliocentric, disease etc,. @New Yorker, 7000 years
this world has been peopled?... I guess this is what I'm talking about. No
matter what facts are discovered religion sticks to their books and tries to
change the wording; " well this verse actually is just talking about the
peopled existence of the world and not the world as a whole" or
"evolution is apart of Gods plan"... even though it totally goes against
what the bible and your church teaches. Faith doesn't make you search for
the truth, rather it says, here is the truth, now don't think about it or
question it too much because then you don't have faith.
@ Tyler D: "If there is one thing religion should be known for it is its
ability to adapt to facts and insert itself (as the answer) into areas still
unknown."How is this much different than "scientific
discovery"? Science claims to "know" things until further
experiments, study, and observation prove otherwise. Then the "new"
facts tend to become a scientific absolute.Since religious leaders
are not out performing scientific experiments I would not expect them to make
these discoveries. However, there is nothing wrong with embracing new knowledge
of our temporal existence and incorporating into the spiritual existence of
religion. The two are not mutually exclusive, nor do they have to be at
odds.My religion (LDS) teaches that we are given knowledge "line
upon line, precept upon precept". That knowledge doesn't always come
from a bruning bush. Sometimes it comes from a dilligent and intelligent
I have a reverse question: One of the most "fundamental" parts of
science today is the absolute belief in the speed of light as a speed limit; if
anything even hints at breaking the speed of light (and more importantly, the
speed of information transmission over light speed) then the world of science
will, basically, shatter. Any meaningful belief in religion and God
as a member of this Universe must of necessity believe in something faster than
light. What happens when we find out that religion was right and science wrong?
That's the fireworks I'm looking forward to.
Personally, I would be surprised if there aren't other planets with life on
@ordinaryfolks – “I don't think that the vast majority of
fundamentalists in the Abrahamic religions can possibly deal with the
probability of life on other planets in the Universe.”Your
comments are astute however I don’t think it would go this way.If there is one thing religion should be known for it is its ability to adapt
to facts and insert itself (as the answer) into areas still unknown. If it
didn’t do this religion would die out and I very much doubt it ever will.
There’s too much in for all involved – leaders want the control and
followers cannot tolerate their own fear of death or the unknown. It
might rock the worldviews of certain sects for a generation or two, but not only
would they accommodate new facts, they would do it in a way as to suggest they
really knew it all along (i.e., “we see through the glass darkly, but now
a little less so.”)I wish it were so easy to break the spell
of religion but 400 years of it adapting to modern science suggests this is a
uniquely powerful incantation.
I realize that LDS theology does indeed teach that there are other planets with
people on them out there there in the universe. But I believe it also teaches
that these people will look like us as all people were created in the image of
god. I wonder how Mormons would react if the intelligent life we found looked
nothing like us at all and were in fact completely different types of lifeforms.
Or maybe we won't find anything. That would be far more profound and
thought-provoking - that we really are the only ones. See the Fermi paradox.
Based on even the most conservative calculations, there should already be
mountains of evidence of extra-terrestrial life. But we haven't found any
yet. Very strange if you think about it.There is a theory growing
in popularity that the Big Bang caused near-infinite universes to be created
with slight or drastic variations that exist in different dimensional planes. I
think it's more likely than not that our our own physical universe is
simply a "simulation" created by a higher intelligence who resides on a
separate plane of existence.The "multiverse" is likely how
we explain near-death experiences - our "spirits" are merely beings that
can only reside in a separate dimensional universe that likely has completely
different laws on time, energy and physics. In other words we have a extremely
limited understanding of the universe as we know it.
To add to Casey See's comment, because the peopled existence of a world (at
least this one is thought to be in the neighborhood of 7,000 years before being
rolled out to another plane) in LDS theology is so geologically short, finding a
world "populated with spirit children of our Heavenly Father" would be
very very, very rare. It will be much more likely that we find a lot of worlds
in preparation for receiving intelligent life that has been granted a degree of
moral agency. This means those who are able to make reasoned choices not
governed by instinct. Per Section 77, you may not recognize all of them.
Consider the great variation of humankind found on this planet, all being from a
single genetic chain.Just sayin' :-)
I don't think that the vast majority of fundamentalists in the Abrahamic
religions can possibly deal with the probability of life on other planets in the
Universe. It will rock the central tenets of their faith, which include the
unique creation of our Earth by an almighty deity. Heck, these people are so
tribal as to fight amongst themselves for dominance. You have got Baptists,
fighting Catholics and Mormons, who are not so nice to Muslims, who hate Jews.
And this has been going on for hundreds of years.Our species is
inherently tribal, unsophisticated intellectually and prone to childish faith.
The existence of any form of life on another planet threatens the very notion of
their self chosen special nature. I probably won't be around when this
extraterrestrial life if found. But I sure would enjoy the shock and disbelief
that will accompany the discovery. It took the Catholic church
hundreds of year to exonerate Galileo from its charges of apostasy. I wonder
how long it will take the religious fundamentalist to come to grips with the new
fact that there is more to the universe than their self designated unique
For those of LDS faith, we would expect to find life on other planets as we are
told in Moses 1:35-38 that there are other planets populated with spirit
children of our Heavenly Father.