If it was a joke that Hill was in the Heisman talks, like all you Utes claim.
Then Hundley is an even bigger joke
Ucla is vastly overrated!
Duckhunter....who cares about BYU's practice facilities? So yours is
bigger...wow...let's pin the blue ribbon on your chest.
@uteologyI like the way you tried to take my comment about
BYU's and utah's indoor PRACTICE facilities and tried to make it seem
as if it was about the football centers. But of course we have the actual post
to look at and see the dishonesty. lolUtah's indoor practice
facility is little more than a glorified warehouse with a short roof that will
not allow the kickers to even kick properly without fear of hitting the ceiling.
BYU's is so high that a kicker cannot even reach the ceiling. Anyone that has been in both facilities knows BYU's is vastly superior to
utah's, they don't even compare to each other. In fact BYU hosts
actual youth baseball tournaments in theirs at Christmas time every year and
splits the space into two complete fields that is how big it is and how high it
is.You're dishonest about the cost as well, you are quoting a
predesign/construction estimate from 1997. The actual cost was over $60 million,
and that was discounted considerably by the builder.
Now you are comparing your practice facilities to BYU - seriously - move on.Head on over to the Colorado Chat boards and talk to your new rival the
big bad buffs of boulder.It's like you don't know what to
do with your lives if you are not bashing BYU.You're in the PAC
12 - be grateful and then move on. I congratulate you all the time for that
accomplishment - it was you're biggest win ever - including the Sugar Bowl
- but seriously get over the BYU obsession. Why not just say good
luck and farewell? Oh yeah, because you have been defined for 100 year by your
relationship to BYU - who has been more successful in every sport over the last
thirty years than you (except woman's gymnastics I believe). Not that you are not an excellent opponent - and not that you have not had
exceptional success both against BYU and others. But practice
fields - really?
Having visited both school's facilities recently with my son as a football
recruit, BYU is far ahead of Utah with Utah closing the gap. The biggest
drawback at Utah is and always will be how spread out geographically their
facilities are. They put us on a bus to drive us around to the different
facilities. At BYU everything is in two buildings right across the street from
each other. All six recruits in the group brought that up as being a big draw
back. And if you think BYU is just sitting on what they have, you would be
mistaken. They are always working on ways to improve their facilities with an
endless amount of money from donors.
Alright, last week was a let down but this week sees Wilson start clicking.Utah by 5. Yes 5 Both teams score between 15-30
The cost of the BYU football practice facility was reduced significantly by the
builder, a BYU alum originally from India with a construction company based in
northern California. It was also built over 10 years ago. Our facility will
soon be 10 years old, too, and not state-of-the-art as other schools continue to
upgrade.The U capital improvements have been substantial, campus
wide, not just for athletics. The generosity of the Eccles, Huntsman, Sorenson,
and Noorda families, and countless others has been fantastic. Without the
support of the Eccles and Huntsman families we wouldn't be in the Pac12.
We're seeing tremendous upgrades all around the campus, which is why
it's an exciting time for the U - even when we lose football games we
should have and could have won. I'm excited for the future for
both schools, academically and athletically. USU and UVU are also making great
strides forward. Let's celebrate excellence wherever it exists and
improves the lives of students and all of us connected with Utah, without regard
to parochial loyalties.
@Uteology"he U aims to even the score with or surpass competing
Pac-12 schools through a $150-million, five-year athletics resource and
facilities plan that, by 2016, will usher in new training, practice, and playing
areas on the U campus for basketball, softball, tennis, swimming, and
football"--------------------------------You are talking
about what may be, barring extensions and overruns. The dialog was clearly
about current conditions. Fact is right now it is not even close!
@redthunder:If you're right about playing better as an
underdog, that underlines concerns about the U's coaching. We should win
when expected to, especially at home. Leach gathered his team at a
time out to refocus. Utah came out of half time flat as a pancake, having spent
half time with our staff after Coach KW expressed on TV his concern for the
team's play in the first half. He didn't inspire them at half time
like Leach did in the time out and WSU's locker room at half time. If this
is the best talent we've had (as KW says), then it's not a talent
problem - it's a coaching problem. Thinking back to 2008, and
the close wins that led to the undefeated season, I think Brian Johnson's
will to win was huge. Wilson isn't Johnson, at least not yet. Maybe next
I had a call with a business associate who is UCLA alum today. I asked if he
were going to the game on Saturday. He laughed and said, "I apologize in
advance for the beat down your team is going to suffer." That's what
the Bruins think of us at this point - a doormat not a rival.
As awful as last week's loss was for my team I kinda like how they enter
this game. Utah, for whatever reason, always seems to do better as the underdog
and has a knack for face planting when favored. Not to mention Utah has always
played UCLA very well. I'm very, very cautiously optimistic about this game
and like Lifelong pointed out Utah's season pulls a 180 if they pull it
out. Wilson needs to forget about his performance last week and get Utah's
offense punching back or else this game gets ugly in a hurry. Is it Saturday
Snack Pac:Not only does he bring up BYU, but has to twist around an
article about facilities Into his typical straw man style arguments. Kinda makes
you wonder if he's trying o convince us or himself.
@DuckhunterAbove and beyond all of that BYU's facilities on the
whole are still superior to Utah's, and it really isn't close.
Baseball and softball stadiums? BYU in a landslide.-----------That's funny considering Utah's new swimming pool will cost
more than your indoor football practice facility.You seem to think
the arms race is between Utah and BYU, it is not:* In 2016, Utah
will begin on a $9 million pool and diving facility, bringing the U at least up
to par with the rest of the Pac-12 programs.* The U aims to even the
score with or surpass competing Pac-12 schools through a $150-million, five-year
athletics resource and facilities plan that, by 2016, will usher in new
training, practice, and playing areas on the U campus for basketball, softball,
tennis, swimming, and football* About $50 million will come from
Pac-12 television revenues
Cougdawgs,I don't think it will be close, but will not be
overly surprised if it is. Whitt always pulls out one or two big wins a year.
UCLA is finally finding their stride, and I am no Bruins fan. I think it's
the Bruins by 3 TD's. But that is why they play the game. Now BYU and
USU, that will be close if Chuckie plays, otherwise a blowout by BYU!
indoor practice facility is vastly superior to Utah's, there is no
comparison to the two. In easy to understand even for a Utah "fan" terms
BYU's facility is a Mercedes while Utah's is a Chevrolet.------------In easy to understand even for a BYU "fan":* Utah's Chevrolet: $30 million football complex*
BYU's Mercedes: The Student Athlete Center is $21 million. The Indoor
Practice Facility costs $9 million, according to Athletic Director Val Hale.Must be a used Mercedes?
Utah always plays UCLA tough and makes the game close. I think the final score
will be closer than people think, and I've been saying all along that UCLA
is overrated. They should have lost to Texas and only scored one offensive TD
against Virginia. If this game were at RES I would predict Utah wins in a close
game, but because it's in the Rose Bowl I think UCLA will pull another nail
biter out of their hat.UCLA 21Utah 20
for those wondering lifelong ute is actually 1 of chris b's screen names.
life or chris, how a'bout a 3-9 or 4-8 record this year. What will that do
to "your" program ! no one is even listening to your mumbo jumbo
concerning the future of BYU football . Any intelligent college football fan
realizes that all the Y needs to do is keep winning and everything will fall in
place. you can mark that down unlike your silly comments !
@lifelonguteBYU's indoor practice facility is vastly superior
to Utah's, there is no comparison to the two. In easy to understand even
for a Utah "fan" terms BYU's facility is a Mercedes while
Utah's is a Chevrolet.Now Utah's new football facility is
probably nicer than BYU's but it is more than a decade newer. That said if
Utah's facility is a Mercedes then BYU's is still a BMW, plenty
nice.Above and beyond all of that BYU's facilities on the whole
are still superior to Utah's, and it really isn't close. Baseball and
softball stadiums? BYU in a landslide. Track and field facility? BYU and not
even close. Swimming and diving? Once again BYU. Football stadiums? Utah's
is nice but small, BYU's is equally nice but MUCH larger. Winner BYU.
Basketball arena's? BYU and once again it isn't even close.Really what it all means is y9ou don't have a clue what you are talking
As a Ute fan, I understand why many still dis-like BYU. Some of that is
jealously do to the sucess they had during the 80's and early 90's
and some is because of the school and a few players decision to mix sports and
religon. But I have to call out some of the Ute posters who continously call
out BYU on every article. Utah's leadership and most of the alumni no
longer consider BYU their rival or beating them the goal of the program. A few
Utah fans still living in the past do. The goal of the program is to win the
conference, no matter what sport we're playing. Beating BYU does very
little outside of preparing the team for conference play. To a few of the Ute
fans living in the past, you need to jump on the bus and stop looking back.
What BYU does has little impact to the U so wish them all the best and move on.
Money can't buy you a good football program.Cal has received
PAC money since its inception and hasn't been to the Rose Bowl in 55
years.OSU gets that money as well and is on a 50 year Rose Bowl
drought.AZ has been in the conference for 36 years and has yet to
sniff the Roses.Even a quality program like ASU hasn't been
there for more than 15 years.The idea that the U would join the
conference and get to the Rose Bowl in the first 5 or even 10 years was just
wildly unrealistic.I hope the U figures out how to excel in the
PAC-12, but thinking that money alone will get them there is just naïve.
Everyone gets the same money from the conference and the larger, more
prestigious school get more donor money, so the U isn't on par even from a
BYU has been one of the few programs that is the Black every year. When was the
last time Utah was in the black? BYU is just fine and if moving up in the
rankings is an indication of moving ahead; well, BYU is moving ahead and Utah is
moving behind. Just remember AZ and WSU have been getting PAC 10/12 money for a
very long time, little good it does them.
It's amazing how obsessed our little brothers are with BYU.Even
on an article about Utah's upcoming game against a Top 10, conference foe,
the only thing BYU-obsessed Utah fans are interested in discussing is BYU.
Lifelong Ute"If you look at the new football facilities as Utah
compared to what byu has, its not even close which are better."You've obviously never seen BYU's football facilities, so you
obviously don't have a clue how each team's facilities compare.Try doing a little research next time before spouting off.
Not much,No, I wasn't taking it out of context at all. byu is
also falling behind in facilities. If you look at the new football facilities
as Utah compared to what byu has, its not even close which are better. Its just
another example of them falling behind us.
@Lifelong Ute:You're taking the last line in the ESPN article
completely out if context to manufacture a dig against BYU, who is not our rival
any more - just ask Chris B. The writer was talking specifically
about facilities. Here's the quote: "And although Alden didn't
outline any specific building projects, he said it's likely some of the
money will go toward bricks and mortar: 'In this area, if you're not
addressing and moving forward, you're falling behind'." In this
area is referring to spending on facilities. BYU already had moved
ahead with its new football practice facility before going independent. And LES
improvements have been and are being made each year. The writer also
mistakenly referenced Utah's capital improvements as a new football stadium
and b-ball area when both are practice facilities and Huntsman Center
improvements. You can't build new stadiums and arenas for $16-$25 million
as reported. We need to get RES up to 60,000 capacity but that
won't happen unless we can put a winning record together.
@Lifelong Ute:4-1 is what the U would have been after the expected
loss to UCLA this coming Saturday if a certain star receiver hadn't dropped
the pass the QB threw perfectly last Saturday. That drop was lights out for the
team.Your fanatical optimism aside, how will you feel when the U is
3-2 Saturday night? I'll be more disappointed than last week
because if we'd been headed to the Rose Bowl with some momentum I think we
might have had a chance to upset UCLA. I see no chance now.
Kicking field goals and punting?
Great article on ESPN about financial winners of conference realignment. Among
the biggest winners: The Pac 12 Utah Utes. None of us thought it would happen
overnight, but no question that money will help us buy what we want - a top
notch football programThe very last sentence so painfully(for them)
describes indy no conference wants them byu:"In this area, if
you're not addressing and moving forward, you're falling behind."
We were loving life being up 3-0 and looking like we could beat anyone in the
conference. Suddenly, last Saturday would make it seem like we're in
despair. Win Saturday, and we're sitting at 4-1 which is an incredible
record and one we would have been thrilled to have. Doubters, keep doubting.
Your crow will be even more bitter when you eat it!