Firing of lesbian teachers at St. Louis Catholic girls’ school draws outcry

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  • Jimmytheliberal Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 8, 2014 11:48 a.m.

    @Chris B. @Vanceone..Continued archaic backwards Utah neo-con posts accompanied by adolescent ideology and a complete misunderstanding of the facts. How many comments and posts have the rest of us which embrace equality for all rather a select chosen few have we read regarding the Mozilla CEO? All you "freedom fighters" should simply count the number of people alone in this article that were fired (all illegally by the way based on the information obtained in this article) and then get back to us. In closing, I could not imagine the outcry if the situation was reversed!

  • carito_2000 Ava, USA, MO
    Sept. 5, 2014 10:16 a.m.

    A Quaker,

    Should every religion change their fundamental belief system every time a group of members decide they don't like one of the tenants? If you are whatever religion and decide you don't like whatever underpinning makes that religion what it is,then maybe it is time for the person to change. How would anyone keep their thumb on what a religion believes in if every time a societal norm changes going against a doctrine? You could have new standards almost every single day!! It's not terribly hard these days to find a religion that will allow you to do anything you pretty much anything you wish and pat you on your head and say how wonderful and 100% perfect you are. I don't wish to belong to a religion that is ever changing with every new wind that blows through. I don't want to have to run to the computer each morning and google what do I believe today?

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Sept. 5, 2014 8:09 a.m.

    What is it about "CATOHLIC" High School....That they don't understand?

  • carito_2000 Ava, USA, MO
    Sept. 4, 2014 5:49 p.m.

    DEWCougars, Though you were addressing another, let me answer for myself as I agree with him. I absolutely agree with. I went to BYU. I knew before I went there what each and every part of the Honor Code said and required. I had a one on one interview. It was not just a pamphlet that was sent to you a couple of days before reaching campus. I didn't only hear it once, rather many times. I understood that I alone was signing that Code. I knew I was not being forced to go to there; I could go anywhere I chose. I also chose to keep my word. I worked for years as a teacher in a public school system. They have contracts too. I am assuming that they would not have taken kindly to me deciding which parts of their contract I decided that I agreed with and would follow. I would have been fired. I read that contract before I signed it as well. One can choose where to work, but don't choose to work somewhere to teach a lesson or help a cause. You sign a contract, follow it.

  • Oatmeal Woods Cross, UT
    Sept. 4, 2014 2:49 p.m.


    Mozilla's CEO resigned for political activity six years ago that the board which hired him knew about when it hired him. His resignation was an attempt to satiate a lynch mob. He never signed an agreement and then failed to keep that agreement.

    Quite bluntly, any person who for any reason, even religious belief, has opposed SSM in their lives now is suspect in this new world. In this world with rapidly changing views on what is culturally or socially acceptable, social conservatives are going to be labeled as bigoted and persecuted. That is discrimination. And we could easily see the suppression of religious groups and religious viewpoints.

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    Sept. 4, 2014 7:51 a.m.

    "Reichert said she and Gambaro were asked to resign after the school said in late July it received a copy of a mortgage application with the couple’s names."

    --- Seems like the mortgage company or bank who provided the copy of the application violated privacy laws. Seems like another lawsuit in the wings.

    "The couple had married in New York over the summer and the school said they had violated the moral contract ..."

    So, getting married is now "immoral"? Who knew?

    "the church rejects gay marriage and considers homosexual acts a “grave depravity” and “intrinsically disordered.”"

    --- Frankly, bigotry is more depraved and disordered imo.

    All of you "conservatives" (2bits) who frequently mention the Mozilla CEO's being fired should count the number of LGBT people listed as fired just in this article and then get back to us.

  • Karen R. Houston, TX
    Sept. 4, 2014 6:41 a.m.

    Good to see the outcry. Evidence that, despite the highly questionable moral integrity of the institution, the people know injustice when they see it. Hopefully with time this particular doctrine will come to be ignored just like those regarding contraception and divorce.

  • Vanceone Provo, UT
    Sept. 4, 2014 1:45 a.m.

    I'm waiting for the lawsuit where the lesbians claim that education is a fundamental right, so the Catholic Church must allow them to teach because we cannot let bigots (defined as anyone who doesn't think LGBT is the most moral thing ever!) teach our children.....

    Because, after all, if it doesn't promote the gay agenda, it's bigotry! That's what the 14th amendment says, right? Gays get to rule us all, or it's not equal protection!

  • K Mchenry, IL
    Sept. 3, 2014 10:48 p.m.

    It's the requirement for the school to give benefits that is the problem. Catholic schools were hiring anyone and everyone with no concern about their own thoughts on such matters or activities. But then the gov said the schools have to participate by paying for benefits. I think all catholic schools should close and won't that be a pretty picture seeing tens of thousands of students in major cities across the US show up on the steps of publics schools. They have asked for it.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Sept. 3, 2014 10:22 p.m.

    Accepting and condoning sin never was and never will be compassionate. When Christ told the woman taken in adultery that he did not condemn her, her charged her to go her way and sin no more. Christ taught that the sick, not the whole, needed the physician, but what was left unsaid but heavily implied was the physician was to help the sick recover, not wave a magic wand and make unhealthy behaviors suddenly be healthy. How is judging those who do not agree with you to be unchristian showing christian love and compassion?

  • the greater truth Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 3, 2014 8:10 p.m.


    We can agree on that point.

    Too bad the same privilege is not extended by the left to bakers, photographers, and property owners.

    They should have those same "every rights"

  • Maudine SLC, UT
    Sept. 3, 2014 6:50 p.m.

    The school certainly has every right to fire the teachers - and the alumnae have every right to decide not to donate in response.

  • Tekakaromatagi Dammam, Saudi Arabia
    Sept. 3, 2014 6:25 p.m.

    "These teachers were long known as gay. Only when they married, or declared an intention to marry, were they fired."

    You don't understand. The Catholic's view is that same sex attraction is not a sin. Acting on the attraction is the sin.

    So if it was known that they were gay it isn't a big deal with the Catholic church.

  • mcclark Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 3, 2014 4:06 p.m.

    MMMMM That good old christian love and compassion. Yes indeed.

  • A Quaker Brooklyn, NY
    Sept. 3, 2014 4:02 p.m.

    The Church is perfectly entitled to enforce their employment contracts. They're also perfectly justified in being called hypocrites. These teachers were long known as gay. Only when they married, or declared an intention to marry, were they fired.

    Catholic school enrollment and church attendance continue to fall. Lay Catholics are apparently getting fed up with Church hypocrisy and self-interest on several levels. If all the Church wants is ideological hardliners, they're going to be closing buildings left and right soon, because the majority of Catholics are not like that.

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    Sept. 3, 2014 3:23 p.m.

    So Chris B. agrees with their policy of this private organization can do as they please, well good for you. Now, can you accept about the policy of this private organization of BYU Honor Code when those players (LDS and Non Members) who signed the Honor Code agreement? Those players knew they can be booted out from sports and possible from school.

  • RG Buena Vista, VA
    Sept. 3, 2014 2:18 p.m.

    from the article: "The archdiocese said that it would expect any Roman Catholic school to follow the church’s teaching."

    Well, of course! Why would anyone expect otherwise?

  • conservative scientist Lindon, UT
    Sept. 3, 2014 2:14 p.m.

    This article seems excessively biased in favor of the couple and how unfair the school is. It skims by that they violated a contract and that a religious school can fire them for violating that. There are many different denominational schools that would have done the same thing, and that is their right. A private institution, especially a religious one, has a right to decide what kind of people are employed and held up as an example to the youth. In today's world, with the celebration of diversity and the GLBT society, it should not be hard for them to get another job.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 3, 2014 2:05 p.m.

    This private organization can do as they please and these instructors signed and promised to live a certain way - and they broke that promise. Shame on these women for promising to do one thing and then doing another. They should be fired if they are lying like that to their employer.