BlueHusky "Also interesting to read Texas papers. They respect
BYU and they'll be in a game."It's true. I've
been reading the Austin newspapers, too. The interesting thing is that the
coaches, of course, give BYU a great deal of respect. But, in the comments
section you'll read almost entirely comments that give BYU the same respect
as the Texas coaches. The sports writers, too. You don't hear anyone back
there saying anything remotely like what Chris B and the other Ute trolls say.
So, you can't really take anything Ute fans say in these comments sections.
They're only trying to get a rise out of gullible Y fans.
Empty-headed trolls trying to dis BYU. Funny.Big Boy is as Big Boy
does. Utah is not a Big Boy.Get used to it.BYU wins out,
they'll get Big Boy props. Also interesting to read Texas papers. They
respect BYU and they'll be in a game. Even the games BYU lost last year
(except for UVA and Utah) were good tough games. No reason not to expect more
this year.As for the comment that P5 teams will not be eliminated
with a loss ... silly you. 4 teams 5 conferences. Any team losing 2 is out.
PAC12 won't get there because they'll probably all have two losses or
more. Big 12 probably won't get there either. Ohio State, FSU, Alabama,
@MarkMAN"42 7 Texas Over in the first10 minutes. This will be a
great opp for BYU to learn to dig deep. I think they will be this one will hurt
for a bit."I'm really sorry to break it to you, but
that's not gonna happen. I could see Texas winning. In fact that is my
prediction (17-14 by the way). But Texas's offense is way too depleted to
score 42. And even though their defense is outstanding (that's why I have
BYU scoring 14), I really just can't see BYU being held to only one
touchdown. They will still move the ball. 14, to me, is about the lowest they
Remember the ridicule Stanford took last year for losing to the team that was
invited to the PAC for the express purpose of giving easier conference wins to
the real "big boys" of the Conference?
@2013 ute seniorsWhy do you keep comparing BYU to New Mexico and
Wyoming? Just because we are both mid-majors doesn't mean we are anywhere
near the same caliber of team. They deserve no consideration to be the same
level of team as BYU.Kind of like how utah deserves no consideration
to be the same level of team as Alabama, Florida State, and Oregon. There's
a reason utah is talked about in the same breath as Colorado, Washington State,
Kansas, and Kentucky.Generalizing the respect and power of a program
based only on conference affiliation is ridiculous.
"Clearly, BYU's biggest chance to make a national impact is against
Texas on Saturday."Its too bad that the Cougars are facing a shell of
a Texas team due to injury and suspensions. A win is all but assured. However,
the national conversation will be more about "Texas is bad again" rather
than about "Look what BYU did". This is why it is important
for BYU to schedule more than a handful of P5 schools. If you want to make a
national impression, you can't risk the one "good team" on your
schedule having another horrible year. When they scheduled the Texas series,
fans envisioned playing a Vince Young National Champion caliber Texas. Nobody
envisioned the Texas program sinking so low. On the plus side,
Charlie Strong is doing the right thing. It will be a painful year for Longhorn
fans, but the program needs a good makeover.
Byu will win this game because Texas is overthinking this game
U fan loves to put up the straw-man pedestal of the "epic failure" if
this team loses 2 games and the "quest being over" after the first loss.
Sounds a lot like the democratic party and some of the fake arguments they put
up. Great strategy by putting up a nearly impossible feat, they ridicule your
rival for not living up to it.
42 7 Texas Over in the first10 minutes. This will be a great opp for BYU to
learn to dig deep. I think they will be this one will hurt for a bit.Mark
Chris B:Wow, did you hear that gavel fall? Well done Wiscoug.And give us a break...if you followed the SEC, which you clearly don't,
you would see that USCeasf has plenty of people laughing at them right
now...especially because it was humiliating to the ole ball coach."The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't
know anything about."-Wayne Dyer
If byu won us this year that would be real impressive more than Texas because we
are big boys now and that would make byu look good on the national radar but
they can't win us anyways so they won't be radar material now..Go Utes!
RE: Chris B."Right. A team like Texas wouldn't be anymore
embarrassed losing to a mid major like New Mexico State or Wyoming or byU than
they would be losing to a big time program?"Lane Kiffin of USC
was fired midseason last year after an ASU beatdown. Are you saying that USC
isn't a major program, or that ASU is on par with New Mexico State and
Wyoming? It must have been even more embarrassing for USC to lose to ASU than
the BYU/Texas game because the head coach was immediately fired at USC (only the
assistant was fired at TX). Syracuse fired Greg Robinson after
losing to UCONN (BCS team at the time). Michigan State's John L.
Smith was fired mid-season after losing to Indiana (BCS team). Florida's Ron Zook was fired mid-season after losing to Mississippi State
(BCS). Arizona's John Mackovic was fired mid-season after losing to a
ranked TCU team. Michigan State's Bobby Williams was fired mid-season
after losing to a ranked Michigan team.All these head coaches were
fired after losing to P5 teams (some of them ranked).
@ Johnny TriumphIs that the same ESPN that called BYU's coach
Roscoe Mendenhall during a live game broadcast?
WiscougarRight. A team like Texas wouldn't be anymore
embarrassed losing to a mid major like New Mexico State or Wyoming or byU than
they would be losing to a big time program?Keep telling yourself
that! The nation mocked Texas after losing like that to byu. You don't
see anyone mocking South Carolina for having just lost big time to Texas
A&M. You see everyone praising Texas A&M. Same with last year - the
nation didn't explode in praise to byU after beating Texas - they laughed
at Texas and TExas fired their coaches.LOL!
"...coaches wouldn't have been fired last year if they had lost to a
team like Oklahoma or Oklahoma State or Notre Dame or another well respected
team."Seriously? You don't think it would have embarrassed
Texas to get destroyed by a team like Alabama, who broke all sorts of
rushing/offensive records in a 41-20 beat down? I think a win like that says
"you're not in our league." Texas was embarrassed but it
wasn't because BYU wasn't a BCS team, it's because they destroyed
It's about the return of Williams.It's about the continued
improvement of the O-line.It is about Taysom.It is about
play calling.One of the strangest sequences from last weekend was
the one fade route to each side followed by a swing pass, punctuated by a missed
field goal, all of this inside the red (blue) zone.If the person
calling the plays will refrain from this kind of play calling, BYU should win by
BYU will be ready for this game and will win. Texas is shorthanded on the
O-line and thus won't run the ball well, and the backup QB won't have
great luck throwing the ball.Sorry to post this here but I
can't find a Ute article to put it on. It's a bad sign when ESPN
can't even get your starting QB's name right in its Eliminator
list:Utah: Talk about happy returns. Utes quarterback Trevor Wilson
returned from a scary concussion suffered last season, and Kaelin Clay returned
a punt and kickoff for touchdowns, helping Utah roll past FCS foe Idaho State
56-14 on Thursday night.
@ UteologyI'm not sure I would call UCF, BSU, and USU
contenders after what happened in week 1. I think ECU will have a chance to
earn a berth in a January bowl, even if they lose one.
Actually, I agree that losing out on a major bowl after one loss is a tough part
of being a mid major. However, if you want to get to a New Year's bowl,
you have to have a really good team, whether you are in a P5 conference or not.
Both BYU and Utah have been pretty average recently--although their records
differ based on the competition they each face. Maybe this year BYU does have a
really good team, but we won't know until we watch the games. We might not
even know then because of the SOS. However, if they win them all, it will
certainly help their chances of getting in a New Year's bowl this year or
next year. Remember that Boise State had several seasons of really nice teams
before they got respect. Sadly, it was the type of respect that hasn't
endured well. If BYU can continue to add speed and solid QB play, I can see
them earning respect, but it might take a while and might actually be given to a
BYU team that isn't as good as this one is.
Did anyone go to the linked stories about how ticked off Charlie Strong is
watching film or the posters all over UT facilities? So much attention being
given to a non-P5 team? I just don't understand it, BYU isn't supposed
to be relevant or respected by anyone, how can this be?Ok all
sarcasm aside, BYU needs to be mentally ready for this game because Texas
undoubtedly is...they've been reminded and hounded about it all off-season.
Their CB says BYU is literally circled on their calendar. I'm hoping for a
physical "you punch us in the mouth we'll punch you right back"
kind of game. These are the defining moments...no excuses BYU, get it done!
Taysom Hill is not a one man team. There has not been this much pressure and
focus in the trenches for a long time. If BYU is to win then the team has to be
assignment sound. The game will not be won by how Taysom Hill rushes or
surgically passes agaunst the longhorns but how well BYU does in the trenches
offensively and defensively. Against UCONN the O line had it easy. Will the O
line be able to open holes for Williams, will they give Hill the time to get the
ball to his recievers? Texas is going to try to make Hill beat them with the
pass more so because of the yards he emassed rushing last year at LES.Will
the Defensive line stop the Long horn rushing attack? Both the D line and O
line need to have nasty attitutdes because Strong will have his team focused and
this will be a home game for them. This is their game of games right now.
Question is will the BYU coaches have thier players mentally ready and focused
Honestly, it's a little too early to be deciding which teams on BYU's
schedule are worthy of respect and which aren't. Pre-season predictions are
always off. There are probably one or two sleepers on BYU's schedule that
will surprise the pundits.
No pressure . . .
not only biggest chance - ONLY chance. There isn't a single other team on
there that impresses anyone. If byu loses more than 1 game this year, it should
be considered an epic failure with such a horrible schedule.Texas
will win, and end byu's quest just 2 weeks into the season. Meanwhile,
power conference teams will continue on quests for many many many more weeks.
That's right Taysom4Heisman. I am impressed you see it for what it is. One
could argue if BYU is worthy or not by the end of the year. But this game,
despite the Longhorn injuries, will likely define BYU's season in week 2.
Now, nobody should be taken lightly afterward, but BYU is better than all the
other teams they play from here on out, except maybe UCF.
"Even a spot in a New Year's Day bowl isn't guaranteed with a
perfect season, although it is a possibility." -- DNIt's
not guaranteed but I think BYU will make a major bowl by going undefeated.
Specially considering that they would have beat all other non-P5 contenders,
UCF, Boise State, and Utah State, by going undefeated.
Bottom line, if BYU beats Texas, they get on the national radar and slowly climb
the rankings throughout the year even though they play mediocre or bad teams.
They will get into the discussion for the big bowl games if they keep
winning.If BYU loses to Texas, they get no national attention this
year. After a loss, the most success they could find would basically be to
finish in the Top 25 at the end of the season. They would be lucky to even be
talked about for a big bowl game.A lot is riding on this game.
This will be BYU's biggest game this year for sure. However, an unraked
Texas being beat by an unraked BYU will not help BYU much in terms of BCS or
national recognition. BYU can run the table this year and maybe get to a top 10
ranking but no chance to reach a top 5 spot.I do think BYU belongs
in a Big Time Conference and that is what they will need to gain respect. The
Independent thing will just not work and the balance of the 2014 after Texas
looks worse than a Mountain West or old WAC schedule.
Texas may not be very highly ranked but they do average eight 4-star or higher
players a year in recruiting so they are loaded with talent. Any individual
player rating can be wrong, but the overall star ranking averages are
meaningful. At the same time I'm beginning to believe in BYU's
conditioning program, especially after listening to Harvey Jackson (Nebraska
transfer) talk about the grueling conditioning.With Strong's
defensive focus and players saying they have been reminded of the BYU game every
day in practice by their coaches they will be very motivated. BYU has a chip on
their shoulder from not being included in the P5 in spite of being better than
many P5 teams, so BYU is also very motivated.Texas' defense
will definitely be better this year but so will BYU's offense, it should be
a fun game to watch! Go Cougars!
It also wouldn't hurt to get the attention of the Big12 and make a claim we
belong in their conference to beat Texas at home.