With three quarterbacks posting positive numbers it appears that we may have a
workable backup if injury strikes Wilson again. The offense was working
particularly well, and while the defense had a lot of holes in the wrong places
they toughened up in the red zone. I see a season record in the better
category. A win against Fresno State is a must and the conference wins that can
be taken are Arizona, Oregon State, Washington State and Colorado, with an
better than average change against Michigan USC, UCLA and Arizona State.
Stanford and Oregon probably not going to work out well. Good Utes teams from
the past have seemingly come out of nowhere (i.e. no pre-season ranking and no
love from the media) to head into the post-season. Keep the faith. It's
still early in our PAC 12 experience, but we actually have positive signs to
look at. Go, Utes!
sammyg:"Remember when all Ute fans were laughing at BYU's
Thursday and Friday night games?"I remember us laughing at you
for all the FRIDAY games, but not exclusively the Thursday ones. I also recall
us laughing at you for the VOLUME of non-Saturday games. But I don't
remember hearing anything in way of the Pac-12 guaranteeing we won't be
playing a few non-Saturday games. And with respect to non-Saturday games......I don't know what it is YOU'RE giggling about. We have
only 2 Thursday games, and NONE on Friday. YOU have 2 Thursday games and THREE
on Friday. Nearly 42% of your schedule is played on a non-Saturday date. Ours
is just south of 17%. Haha!
IRS Agent:"that top 25 ranking is coming from the COACHES. They
understand the game better than anyone, and aren't going to reward a team
that hasn't earned their respect, regardless of their opponents...Trust me,
the coaches aren't going to be impressed with by a team's record
only"Trust me. They DO. Those coaches don't actually
watch the games, unless their team had already played them. Even the teams they
HADN'T played, but WILL later on in the season won't get watched until
after the votes had already been submitted. Coaches just look at W/L records,
and rate accordingly. They don't spend as much time on it as do the AP
JonA-"That's a terrible mentality that people with low self
esteem usually employ. Instead of reaching for the stars, they aim for the roof.
Being a big fish in a small pond is something several people need to feel
validated. But those with self confidence are willing to try to reach their
potential, knowing there's a great chance at failure, but also learning
from that failure along the way."Throwing cliches around never
wins the argument, unless the audience is "low information." Some folks
are born and raised in small towns (ponds). Some of them (my millionaire
brother--PhD in physical chemistry, MIT and Taysom Hill--starting QB in Div I
football) are or will be a big fish in any pond.So you might want to
buttress your argument without cliches, otherwise, I'll have to point out
that SLC is a VERY SMALL pond compared to Los Angeles, CA. You wanna compare T.
Wilson with Bret Hundley?
@Sparkley BriefsGreat analogy and spot on. Best of luck to your son
and his Hoops career.
If the two teams switch schedules, they probably have similar results. BYU and
Utah are fairly well matched. Utah has had the better record recently, but the
games have been close and I believe BYU has actually had better stats in most of
the games. I imagine if BYU was in the PAC, they would not be bowling this year.
In addition, Utah would probably do about the same with BYU's schedule.
I believe Utah has the skill to get to a Bowl Game... I think they go 6-6 with
the potential for 7-5.Idaho St. - WinFresno St - WinMichigan - WinWashington St. - WinUCLA - LossOregon State -
Loss (But close)USC - LossArizona State - LossOregon - LossStanford - LossArizona - WinColorado - Win@Chris B...
Right.... You will quit posting if Utah does not go to a bowl game...Just like you promised to post yourself singing the BYU fight song on YouTube
if BYU went better than 1-4 against their toughest competition last year... Where is the fight song????Are you a man of your word?Do a desnews search for "Cougars Unveil Tough Balanced 2013 Football
Schedule" and then look for the Jan 28, 2013 9:09 comment from Chris B.
@ Objectified"As such, BYU would obviously do better than Utah
with the same schedule......That's the reason for having such polls in the
first place... to determine how each team would do with the same schedule and
then ranking them accordingly. Is it really that difficult to face football
reality?"Are you serious? Pre-season polls exists for
entertainment only. They have absolutely no predictive value. None. 10 teams
from last years pre-season poll wound up un-ranked. Most notably, Michigan St.
and Auburn which finished ranked 3rd and 2nd, respectively.
A very successful season for Utah would be 6 wins. Quite possible. If BYU had
their schedule they might come up with 5 wins - 6 would be mind blowing. And yes PAC12FAN, I think it would be great for BYU to switch places
with U and be in the PAC 12. It will never happen. But if BYU could get in the
Big 12 they couldn't be a travel partner with Nebraska. How could that even
be possible? Do you really think the Big 12 would invite Nebraska back and they
would actually return from the Big 10? Stranger things have happened, like the
PAC 10 thinking they could capture the Salt Lake TV market by inviting Utah into
@ GoRed:I would go red too, in the face, to write some of the
off-the-wall opinions that you do, and criticizing other programs without using
any factual backing whatsoever. That means you have no valid reasons for what
you write.The people who obviously know college football much better
than you, college coaches and national sportswriters, picked BYU significantly
higher than Utah for very valid reasons in every preseason poll. As such, BYU
would obviously do better than Utah with the same schedule. And so would USU.
Utah trailed the pack once again in all the preseason polls.That's the reason for having such polls in the first place... to
determine how each team would do with the same schedule and then ranking them
accordingly. Is it really that difficult to face football reality?
@ 65TossPowerTrapIf BYU and Utah switched schedules, how many games
do you think each would win? Honestly...
With any luck and good fortune, Utah's opponent tomorrow night will face
BYU in a December Bowl Game.
6-6 sounds terrific for the Kansas of the Pac-12.
If Utah doesn't go bowling I wont post on byU articles for a year. I made similar promises before the last Utah byU game about Utah
winning.And the year beforeand the year beforeAnd the year before.Utah WILL go bowling - you can mark that
Lets break this down:Idaho St - WFresno St - W@Michigan - LWash St - L@UCLA - L@Oregon St - LUSC - L@Ariz St -
LOregon - L@Stanford - LArizona - L@Colo - WThat is a 3-9 season, lets just for argument sake say they win a game they
shouldn't. My prediction is 4-8! And the person that thinks they
can compete once every 4 or 5 years, that's comical. Just look at the
history of Arizona, Wash St, Oregon St, even Arizona St and Washington. They
don't get that many opportunities why would Utah?
The cool thing about Football is anything can happen. All of you people that
have commented above should know better to doubt a team before the season even
starts. Anything can happen, we may not win 1 game or we may win 10,11,12....
Nobody knows until the game is played. Utah has had success in the past but also
have not had any success. Coach Whit knows what he is doing and it is part of
the transition playing top tier teams every week. Go UTES
My son who is in 4th grade played on a basketball team of 5th and 6th graders.
He was a good player on the team, but not a star. A kid in his class made the
all-star team playing in the 3rd-4th grade league, and brags about how he is the
better player because he is an all-star. When the two are on the court
together, the "all-star" is clearly overmatched. When I read BYU fans
comments about how great their team is because they will qualify for another 3rd
grade league bowl, I can't help but be reminded of the "all-star".
My son loved the higher competition and was glad he played up. I'm a Ute
fan who looks forward to the tough games this year. Hopefully, BYU can continue
to get games with great teams too. Hey now, your an all-star!
no need for all the smack talk. I think Utah is capable and have an excellent
chance of getting 6 wins. Upset targets would be Michigan. They will also need
to beat Arizona and Oregon State.Best case for BYU is a scheduleing
agreement with PAC 12 and BIG 12 and stay independant.
Don't really care what the Y fans think Utah's record will be this
year. Also don't care what some of the homer U fans think either.If the O Line plays poorly (again), this will be a long season with 4 wins and
a few close games. If the O Line plays well there will be a lot of close games
and a bowl game at the end of the year. Defense should be solid (again) barring
a number of injuries depleting the ranks. The offense has more weapons at the
skill positions and can put up some points if the O Line is decent.
@ sammygAs opposed to the FIVE weekday games BYU plays this year?
The majority being on Friday....Glass house, Sammy.
Best of luck to the Utes this year.I wish I could share the optimism
about the Ute's prospects in the PAC-12 but the signs don't look
good.PROSThe Utes are well coached on defense and Whit is a
good head coach. Unfortunately, a losing season this year and they may loose
their coach. No one views Utah as a rival or circles the Utah game
on their calendar, so the Utes still benefit from teams taking them lightly.RES is small but noisy and provides a home field advantage. CONSRecruiting isn't improving. The Utes can't hope to
challenge in the conference if their recruiting classes are in the bottom third
of the conference. This last year they were in the bottom three.If
the Utes do win a few games in conference they will loose the stealth
factor...it will be much more difficult if and when teams start getting up for
the Utah game.If the P5 autonomy leads to allowing off-campus income
for student athletes, Utah's ability to recruit will be even further
crippled compared to others in the conference.Again, best of luck to
Objectified,bronco wants what Utah has...And he told his interviewer
to mark it down. lol.
Comments from a fan base who has lost 4 straight to Utah and still claims to be
the better team are not worth much to me.I say Utah wins 6 games and
wins a bowl game, for a total of 7 wins. With the brutal schedule they have,
that will be very impressive. And I will love every minute of it!
The good: last year's uniform design.The bad: the new uniform
design.The most likely: new, even uglier uniform design next year.
This year is a unknown for the Utes. I think they will win 4-5 games this year
but they could win up to 8-9. It just depends on who steps up and plays. THe
defense is the biggest question mark. They have allot of new bodies out there.
If they can play like a usual Coach Whit D then they just may get to that 8-9
win mark. If the defense doesn't play well then it might be the tour for
Kyle at the seasons end.Offense could have a breakout year if Wilson stays
healthy. THat's a big if. It hash't happened before and If he goes
down the Utes could be in trouble, although the back ups at qb are better than
they have been. At least on paper they are.My prediction is a 5 win
season. The league is tougher this year than last, and I'm not sure that
the utes are any better.I hope I'm wrong, but I don't
@Chris BIf you want to comment on and cheer for a real Ute winner,
there's a great article on the DNews about a teen gymnast that took the
silver in two events at National's and is going to be attending Utah.
Probably the best recruit of the year, and their best chance at a guaranteed
winner. Mark it down.Congrats Makayla! Best of luck during your
Oh geez, the season hasn't even started yet and byu fans are already bored
with their team. Probably explains why game day is only 3 days away for byu, yet
their fans are all over the Ute comment boards. But since all of you
who bleed blue are here and actively engaged regarding the most prestigious
team in the state, I'll go ahead and answer what seems to all of you to be
the most pressing question of the day.Utah goes 7-5 with wins
over:-ISU-Fresno -Michigan (Much like Bronco, Whit has
always had Brady Hoke's number)-WSU -OSU -Arizona-ColoradoPossibly 8-4 with an upset win over a team not listed
above.As always byu fans, thank you for stopping by (can't say
it was a pleasure). And remember, you're welcome back anytime during the
season, which we Ute fans will expect quite often, considering that the season
hasn't started yet, and byu is already on autopilot.
Remember when all Ute fans were laughing at BYU's Thursday and Friday night
games?Ute fans were saying being in the PAC12 would prevent this
kind of scheduling.ISU on a Thursday night, opening season... now
that's a headliner!
Motorbike, Who said anything about Bronco ? I am talking about BYU
football. Rich in tradition with many bowl appearances over the years including
many victories . As well as all kinds of national awards over the years ! Make
no mistake about it, they have always and will remain the big brother of college
football in the state of Utah. Cheers!
Time for a serious dose of reality, here: The Utes are in for a looooong haul.
UCLA, USC, ASU, Stanford, and Oregon are *loaded* this year; that's why
they're all Top 20 teams. That's five losses. Michigan is Michigan.
Six losses. Fresno is no gimme. I'll take an 11-2 team over a 5-7 team any
day of the week, no matter how you slice it. Seven losses. Idaho State is a
scheduled win. That's one win. That leaves Washington State, Oregon State,
Arizona, and Colorado. Utah went 1-3 against these teams last year (beat
Colorado...barely), and is only 2-1 against Colorado with two narrow victories.
I'll grant them a better record against these teams than the last go-round.
Two wins, two losses. That's 3-9 and no bowl. Who's your pick for
@MotorbikeBut that top 25 ranking is coming from the COACHES. They
understand the game better than anyone, and aren't going to reward a team
that hasn't earned their respect, regardless of their opponents. They know
the game and what is required to win.Trust me, the coaches
aren't going to be impressed with by a team's record only. Especially
if they felt like it was achieved against inferior talent. That would only serve
to negate their own team's success. If he gives credit for a weak schedule
and glossy record, it minimalizes his team's wins (especially against
strong opponents). If he gives too much credit for "quality" losses, it
minimalizes his own victories, because a "quality" loss becomes just as
good as a win, thus invalidating his own success. The coaches aren't being
swayed by weak schedules and glossy records. In fact the coaches poll is
probably the best barometer of a teams place in college football. A
lot of it has to do with how they perceive the team as an opponent. The more
concern that team would cause a coach as an opponent, they higher he is going to
Utah will win 8 games this year, despite the very difficult schedule (5 teams
ranked in the top 25). This will be because of the stability and leadership of
the two main quarterbacks. And our 8 victories will be much more impressive
than BYU's 9-3 or 10-2 over very mediocre competition. I say this only in
preparation for the BYU fans' trash talking that will come at the end of
the season for having won a game or two more than Utah.If BYU played
Utah's schedule this year, they would be lucky to get 3 wins. Most likely
they would go 2-10.
IRS Agent,"And yet somehow, at the end of the year, they (BYU)
are regularly ranked as one of the top 25 teams in the country..."Yes it is indeed true that a top 25 ranking can be achieved with a glossy
record obtained by beating up on a cupcake schedule. And if that impresses you
then you're certainly rooting for the right team.
@ ObjectifiedBronco himself spent half the off-season begging to be
included as a P5 school. It makes sense. Being in a P5 conf. comes with
Better schedules, better bowl tie-ins, security of being "in" while the
landscape of CFB changes, and not to mention a huge revenue boost. You would be
crazy to not switch places with Utah.
@KYUte Louisville, KY"The Utes are moving forward
getting better and better along with the PAC12.Utah will go anywhere
between 6-6 to 8-4 this season dependent upon injuries."How do
you figure? Look at their conference record (dropping every year since joining
the league). Reality isn't relative. Does the offer an online statistics
class?@965Sandy,UT "We have the #1 rated
toughest schedule in the NATION."Not true. Look at the latest
College football power rankings. BYU actually has a tougher ranked schedule that
several of the top 20 teams. But, again, don't let reality block the
crimson view.@MyPerspectiveSalt Lake City,UT
"However, byu fans don't have an appetite for losing games and would
rather play a string of cupcakes to proclaim themselves best in the nation than
face elite competition. byu is stuck right where it should be."And yet somehow, at the end of the year, they are regularly ranked as one of
the top 25 teams in the country by the people that actually know something about
college football and talent, the coaches. There's a whole big world out
there to see, once you take off the crimson colored goggles.
taylormade1,"Lets see now, the Y goes to a post season bowl game
4 yrs. in a row (or for that matter every year) and the u goes to a bowl game
lets see, 0 yrs in a row and counting."You Coug fans love to
brag about bowl games yet Whittingham has still won more bowl games than Bronco.
So perhaps you ought to clarify for us Ute fans exactly what's most
important to you, getting to a bowl game or winning that bowl game.
Typical haters on patrol.It's game week people, get excited!Go Utes-
@ MyPerspective:Right... "BYU wants what Utah has"... - a losing record for years on end, - no bowl games for multiple years
and counting, - not a single vote in any preseason poll.What
is there not to want with those impressive credentials? The true LOL is that
someone is even naive enough to think such a thing, let alone suggest it.It's actually Utah who is stuck right where is should be (in a
losing rut) and going nowhere fast.@ PAC12Fan:You
obviously don't know a single true BYU fan if you think even one would
trade places with Utah. As to why, please see my comment above to MyPerspective.
I'm still trying to decide if you were actually serious when making such a
ridiculous statement. @ JonA and VegasUte:Utah is
currently finding out what it's like to be a little fish in a big pond.
They are being eaten alive by the same big boys that they love trying to
associate themselves with.In return, the actual big boys keep
laughing at them while patting them on the head when handing them their annual
cellar-dweller trophy at the end of each season.
Thursday can't arrive fast enough.I have been spending less
time on this board the past few months as I don't travel as much as I used
to travel.As some of my family members cheer for BYU and have
tickets to the games, he started talking smack about wins and losses. He paid
the same amount (within 5%) for his tickets that I did this year. I must have
not paid a lot of attention but I am looking at his tickets and noticed there
are not good home games in Provo this year. Houston Cougars or Idaho
State?Virginia or Fresno State? Utah State or Washington State?Nevada or USC? UNLV or Oregon?Savannah State or Arizona?Is anyone in Provo happy to pay the same amount to bring in such high quality
opponents? Your 2015 schedule at home is even worse. Boise is only good opponent
at home next year. Add Michigan and Utah State next year to
Utah's schedule with 7 home games in 2015. Whoop, whoop. Time to talk
stadium expansion. The fan base is growing in Utah.
I'd love to see Utah go bowling this year and see Whitt keep his job. It
does me no harm whatsoever to wish them well. Then, reality sets in and I try
to find 6 wins on their schedule and it's a tough sell. Good luck, Utes!
Hope you get there.
I think the U will break out this year and finish 8-4. Wilson is a good QB and
good programs usually rebound after bad seasons.
Lets see now, the Y goes to a post season bowl game 4 yrs. in a row (or for that
matter every year) and the u goes to a bowl game lets see, 0 yrs in a row and
counting. Apples and oranges are the difference here.However, the u does play
the tougher schedule that no one will even care about at the end of the year if
they continue to lose games.
The comments are amusing. This article isn't about BYU. Utah will have a
rough time hitting 5 wins and they better not have a let down vs Idaho State. I
feel bad for the Utes, it's hard to keep losing and losing and losing.
I agree with Chris B. I think they can go 6-6 or 7-5. Whit should keep his job.
Im keeping my fingers crossed.
The Utes are moving forward getting better and better along with the PAC12.Utah will go anywhere between 6-6 to 8-4 this season dependent upon
injuries.Allow me to address the comments about W-L records between
Utah and BYU with a metaphor.BYU fan "BYU can bench press 135
lbs. 8 times. Utah can only bench press 315 lbs. 5 times!"Apples
to Oranges. Major League to Minor League. The only true comparisons that can be
made since we don't play in the same conference any more are head to head
and common opponents, of which Utah clearly wins.Thank you and GO
Utah was not blown out by anyone in the PAC 12 last year. Our defense will keep
us in all games. Our offense has not shown an ability to score on a consistent
basis. We are told that our offensive line is a strength this year. Our
QB's have been less than average and our receivers have tipped way too many
balls in the air. I am confident that our top three QB's will be better
than average this year. Our receivers are touted as speedy and talented but we
will see. Dres is really good in the open field. He is less than average over
the middle where he hears footsteps and bails on the play way too many times,
thus tipped balls. BYU fans need to stop fooling themselves. All
real BYU fans would trade places with Utah in a heartbeat. I hope BYU gets the
chance to be humbled in the Big 12 where their natural travel partner will be
Nebraska. Humble pie still tastes good and every game will be sold
out again for the 5th straight year. Even a bad Pac 12 Utah is
better than a good Independent BYU.
Your right winning 7-8 games with the hardest schedule in the nation would be
more impressive than BYU going undefeated..... But! thats not going to happen so
have fun watching BYU and USU in the post season.
Sounds right.."I'm would rather be an SUU fan and win in a
smaller division than be in a bigger league and always lose."That sounds about right for person who lives in Cedar City. Think small, stay
small. You can't be big unless you think big. Go Utes!!
blah blah blah cougars, it's hilarious that you try and poke fun at our
record when we've stomped your program for the last decade. Stop trying to
feed off our Utes, you're just lucky you don't have us on the schedule
this year to give us an extra win on our record.You're drinking
some very strong kool-aid if you think your team has an even remote possibility
to make the playoffs or have a heisman finalist. That is some crazy high
optimism right there. We have the #1 rated toughest schedule in the NATION. If
we have 7 or 8 wins that would be more impressive than a BYU undefeated
season.But that won't happen, because you will drop a game to
Texas, UCF, and probably Utah State.
I would be happy with 6-8 wins considering the brutal schedule. Time for the
Utes to rise up. Go Utah!
JonAOgden, UT"But as a football fan, I'd rather have
a team go 5-7, but play great teams week-in-week-out, than watch a team blowout
lesser opponents every week. Utah has this scenario and BYU is trying to get
it..."You offer an interesting perspective on reasons for
playing top competition. However, byu fans don't have an appetite for
losing games and would rather play a string of cupcakes to proclaim themselves
best in the nation than face elite competition. byu is stuck right where it
should be. Personally, I thoroughly enjoy the groveling of byu fans
attempting to get what Utah has. LOL!
For the most part, these comments are not surprising from the DesNews, BYU homer
newspaper...I can't take any stock in a UTES article on this site. Then you
get all the bitter BYU fans with their "Ute-Hater" responses. I would
rather go 5-7 on an awesome schedule, than go 8-4 and pay to watch that garbage
bunch of teams that is frequenting LES the last few years. Utes will win at
least 6 this year (Idaho St.; Fresno; WSU; OSU; Arizona; Colorado). BYU will
lose at U-Conn Friday and end up with another lack-luster 8-4 record. GO UTES!
The NASCAR will erupt in flames and will have u fans calling for another 6
offensive coaches for next year !
Sounds Right says, "I'm would rather be an SUU fan and win in a smaller
division than be in a bigger league and always lose"That's
a terrible mentality that people with low self esteem usually employ. Instead of
reaching for the stars, they aim for the roof. Being a big fish in a small pond
is something several people need to feel validated. But those with self
confidence are willing to try to reach their potential, knowing there's a
great chance at failure, but also learning from that failure along the way. But as a football fan, I'd rather have a team go 5-7, but play
great teams week-in-week-out, than watch a team blowout lesser opponents every
week. Utah has this scenario and BYU is trying to get it (and getting closer
each year as they add quality opponents to the schedule). Both Utah and BYU
fans would rather watch ranked opponents come in and watch our guys give the
national ranked teams our best shot, than watch clearly inferior opponents get
Utah will go 3-9, I just cant see them any better than that, especially without
a solid QBWhit will be goneChris B will disappear from posts after
blowout losses, only to chime in when recovered.
Challenge for a PAC title every 4 four or five years???I'll
believe it when I see it - and it will clearly carry more weight when the
prognostications come from someone outside of the Utah fold. For fans to
articulate that Utah will be a contender for a PAC 12 championship 20 - 25% of
the time is hilarious! The sad thing is that I believe that a
majority of the Utah fan base actually believes this.
Whatever happens this year, the Utes will not be bottom feeders of the PAC 12.
They are likely to move to a middle of the pack team with a great team every
four or five years that will challenge for the PAC title. While we fans
don't have a lot of patience, the coaches and players will (regardless
about changes in players and possible changes in coaches). I personally hope
that it is Coach Whittingham and his staff - and therefore there needs to be a
6-6 or better season. While there is only one potential blow-out, there are
five or six teams that are beatable, especially if the Utes get a chance to
build confidence. Obviously, keeping healthy is huge.
I can almost hear Roseanne Barr warming up her vocal chords.
6 and 6 with a Bowl game is a very generous prediction. My prediction, 5 and 7
at best, probably 4 and 8, but could be as bad as 3 and 9. Too bad they choose
to take BYU off their schedule.
Where exactly is Utah going to get these 7 wins? Its good to believe in your
team... but 7 wins? I see 4.. maybe 5 just because Arizona is home game. Maybe 6
but Orgeon state is would just have to totally drop the ball! Lets
Love the fact how the utes goals this year are to win 6 games and not get
everyone fired. Oh how they have fallen with expectations . They sound like a
bottom feeder of a bcs conf ex- Kentucky Colorado Iowa st Kansas. I hope
you love your bcs membership still ute fans even though you can never win over 5
games. Obviously getting into the PAC was great for utah In general but losing
all the time has to be frustrating. I'm would rather be an SUU fan and win
in a smaller division than be in a bigger league and always lose.
The Utes will finish 6-6?! And just who are these 6 teams Utah is supposed to
beat? Idaho State and who else?? I see a 3-win season on the horizon, escaping
with wins over Colorado and either Washington St or Fresno State. Possibly 4
wins at best.
Utah WILL go 7-5 and Coach Christensen and NASCAR are going to save whit's