Stars & Stats: Utes wrap up camp, pick captains and prepare for season opener against Idaho State

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  • JSwaggDaddy Heber City, UT
    Aug. 24, 2014 2:27 p.m.

    @Two For Flinching

    There are 2 major flaws in that way of thinking:

    1) I am referring to the Pac-12's success in football and men's basketball, the only college sports that attract a big audience. Congrats to the Pac-12 for winning the women's swimming/diving national title or whatever sport it may have been, but I don't really care about that, and most other people would agree with me. So listing total national titles in all sports is irrelevant.

    2) I don't care about any of the titles that happened in the 1910's, 1920's, etc. Guess what? Army and Princeton were two of the best football teams in the nation a long time ago. It means nothing now. Kind of like how utah fans brag about winning the overall series against BYU, failing to realize that they racked up a huge lead a long time ago. Looking at the modern era, BYU has the advantage. Sure, utah has the advantage in the very recent years. It all depends on what time period you look at. And the Pac-12 has been bad at winning football/basketball titles in recent years.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 24, 2014 12:40 a.m.

    @ JSwaggDaddy

    The PAC-12 has 469 total national titles as a conference. It's over 200 more than the next closest, which is the BIG-10 with 266. Also 2014 marked the 13th time in the last 14 years the conference has led or tied all leagues in NCAA championships won, with 10 total.

    UCLA - 111
    Stanford - 105
    USC - 100
    California - 33
    Oregon - 26
    ASU - 23
    Colorado - 22
    Utah - 20
    Arizona - 18
    Washington - 6
    Oregon St. - 3
    Washington St. 2

    The PAC-12 is the Conference of Champions. The numbers don't lie.

  • JSwaggDaddy Heber City, UT
    Aug. 23, 2014 10:48 p.m.

    "The last three seasons, at least one Big Sky team has knocked off a Pac-12 team:"

    So much for the Pac-12 being the conference of champions.

    In addition, the Pac-12 hasn't won a national title since 2004. The Big 12, ACC and SEC have won a title more recently.

    Well, at least a Pac-12 team manages to win the Pac-12 title every year. Maybe that's where this whole "Conference of Champions" comes from. I can't think of anywhere else that they win titles.