Here's what you can do to protect your kids from media profanity

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  • Light and Liberty St. George/Washington, UT
    Aug. 25, 2014 2:54 p.m.

    One old man: I agree! I'm sure there is a lot more we could agree upon if we sat down and actually listened to one another. When I'm not listening, I find very little to agree with here. Thanks.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Aug. 25, 2014 10:41 a.m.

    Midvale, I agree. But your first post sounded like surrender. While reality is that people may swear, there is nothing wrong with at least giving it a good try to teach young ones that it's not only inappropriate, it's not really necessary.

    Back in the stone age when I was 16, we could join the local fire department. I cut loose with a really "adult" word at drill one night. Later, the chief took me aside and asked why I'd said what I had said. He then talked about how he had lost some respect for me in that moment. Then he asked to me consider which of the other members I'd want backing me up in a really nasty situation. He pointed out that the ones who had the real courage needed were not the boastful, noisy, foul-language spouters. Instead, they were the ones with the intelligence and self-confidence to make foul language unnecessary.

    It was a very powerful lesson that has stuck with me through all the passing centuries. (Well, centuries might be a bit of an exaggeration -- but only by a little.)

  • Midvaliean MIDVALE, UT
    Aug. 25, 2014 9:54 a.m.

    @one old man
    I see what you are saying, and that is great and all. But the reality is kids swear. And if they have enough respect to treat adults as they should, it will go along ways when they are grown up and on their own. Having the respect to not swear where it is inappropriate is a worthy skill.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Aug. 25, 2014 9:32 a.m.

    No, Midvaliean, I think a lot of us will disagree. Swear in secret? Why?

    Why not try to raise your kids like a few of those I taught in the past. Kids who would tell another who swore that it was wrong. Kids who had enough courage to stand up for what they knew was right.

    When I was teaching, my classroom always had a quote on the wall: "Foul language is just the pitiful attempt of a feeble mind to express itself forcefully." Without asking them to do it, the kids often memorized it. It did my heart happy when occasionally I'd hear one of them quoting that to another.

    Give our kids ammunition to stand up to peer pressure and many of them will do it.

  • Midvaliean MIDVALE, UT
    Aug. 25, 2014 9:11 a.m.

    I tell my kids not to swear in front of me, and anyone else. If they do swear, it is in secret with their pals. Just as it should be.

  • Light and Liberty St. George/Washington, UT
    Aug. 25, 2014 8:54 a.m.

    I find it ironic that Hollywood and their ardent supporters always talk about the importance of artistic expression and their desire to show the "reality" of the actions portrayed in their stories. Yet, if you told them that the "reality" of their actions never show the consequences of their actions, they would sneer, as if consequences aren't "real". In their minds it is only the actions that are real, but not the consequences. They criticize those who "edit" movies, as if they are not living in the "real" world, when, in fact, it is just the opposite. The "real" world takes into account the whole human experience, not just the usual despairing, depressed, violent, objectified sexuality of their world. I go to the movies to be entertained, to see the clever, artful mosaic of life that leaves me laughing, motivated, joyful, and hopeful, something Hollywood will yet learn--when enough people demand it of them.

  • MNmamaof4 Lakeville, MN
    Aug. 24, 2014 9:08 a.m.

    Our family doesn't use profanity and we don't bring media into our home with excessive profanity. That being said, I disagree that profanity is increasing in family friendly movies. We have tried showing our kids 80's movies we remember fondly from childhood. Big mistake. TONS of profanity in movies marketed to families; we had just forgotten. It's hard to find a movie geared to families now, but when one comes out, profanity is mild if it exists at all. I've seen a number of movies void of profanity, with the exception of one word strategically placed in the script to earn a PG-13 rating and increase sales (which is sad.)

    I think the much bigger concern is social, especially family interaction in supposedly family-friendly media. I recently banned Disney Channel in our home (not kidding) because I was tired of rude, disrespectful, outright rebellious kids and moronic adults lowering the standard of civil society in every episode. I also don't like that today's superhero movies market to very young children (with everything from backpacks to snack foods to Velcro shoes) yet the films are violent enough to warrant a PG-13 rating.

  • Stormwalker Cleveland , OH
    Aug. 24, 2014 7:51 a.m.

    Words have meaning and power assigned by society, and are taboo because some group or segment of society has put energy into restricting those words.

    I remember talking with a British acquaintance about the first Harry Potter movie, where Ron said "bloody" in response to being surprised. In America we use that phrase to parody typical British speech patterns. In England, however, that word is vulgar in the extreme and she considered it very shocking to hear in a kid's movie.

    We chatted more about words and some of our most taboo are common phrases over there.

    Stop generating energy by saying some words are so "bad" they can't be used. Problem solved.

  • Morgan Duel Taylorsville, UT
    Aug. 23, 2014 1:12 a.m.

    Why is it that the media pushes so hard regarding drugs, pornography, and anything else that is vulgar and degrading? Money is not the only reason, there has to be more behind their promotion of such. Cyrus, Spears and many others have been ruined because of this monster. What a pity!

  • Understands Math Lacey, WA
    Aug. 22, 2014 5:13 p.m.

    Factual correction: "Gone with the Wind" does not have the first swear word in the history of film. In fact, there have been swear words through the entire history of sound film, and there were incidents in which there were swear words in the intertitles of silent films.

  • John Charity Spring Back Home in Davis County, UT
    Aug. 22, 2014 11:04 a.m.

    The modern entertainment industry has an open and stated agenda of promoting substance abuse and wanton sexuality. Part of this agenda includes an attempt to destroy traditional marriage and family.  The insertion of profanity into movies is part of the attempt to advance that agenda.

    Modern Hollywood portrays marriage as a burdensome institution to be scorned and ridiculed. Indeed, Hollywood treats marriage as something to be avoided at all costs. Indeed, much of the profanity in movies is used to belittle marriage.

    Unfortunately, an impressionable public has begun to imitate what is shown on television and movies. As a result, the rates of illegitimacy, disease, and profanity are skyrocketing.

    The irrefutable fact is that wanton, uncontrolled sexuality does have harmful effects for both the individual and society. Shame on those who seek to impose this harm.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Aug. 22, 2014 10:23 a.m.

    We give words whatever power they have over us.

  • gittalopctbi Glendale, AZ
    Aug. 22, 2014 10:12 a.m.

    An interesting topic for research, truly. However, in the end, swearing and vulgarities are not within the standards my family lives by no matter what the research will find.

  • Vince Clortho S_SPRINGS, UT
    Aug. 22, 2014 8:06 a.m.

    Steven Pinker (just youtube it) had some interesting insights related to this subject. In short two parts of the brain associated with language, cognitive and emotional, swearing is more attuned with the later. One example was that an animal may howl in pain. Humans often swear instead of howl...