Brad Rock: BYU, Utah and everyone else eventually deals with the NCAA

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    Aug. 23, 2014 1:26 a.m.

    @ Bob
    Without a doubt there is plenty of crossover between the two schools and the UofU has nonsecular roots. These are two distinct universities with differing philosophies and directions. As they continue to diverge I would prefer to have less lumping together. Just my personal preference to be distanced from BYU. Perception is reality and if we are lumped we will be erroneously perceived as basically the same (especially outside of Utah).

    The UofU is a sister university to Weber but more so, USU. I am actually fine with being grouped with those schools. Secular, state-owned, research, academically centered.

    Again, this is just a pet peeve of mine - a preference. Just wanted to state it. Keep the U and BYU articles separate.

  • Bobster Boise, ID
    Aug. 21, 2014 4:09 p.m.

    BYU and U of U not being lumped in together? That is really, really funny. If it weren't for the former BYU players coaching the Utes, they wouldn't be where they are today, or where they were a few years ago. The same can be said of the former Ute basketball star coaching the BYU Women's basketball team. If I remember right, the University of Utah was formerly known as the University of Deseret and was owned/controlled/operated by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-days Saints, the very same entity that owns/controls/operates BYU. Just a lot of strange coincidences? I think not. Not too long ago it was the Y's president that was a U of U graduate, and the U's president was a Y graduate. Sometimes the only way you can tell the two schools apart is that one's colors are blue and white and one's colors are red and white. Okay, maybe I'm pushing it just a little. Personally, the more they get lumped together, the better I like it. That means the school up north must be doing something right.

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    Aug. 21, 2014 3:47 p.m.

    I agree with Juggy - Utah and Weber State should be the sister universities.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Aug. 21, 2014 2:06 p.m.


    I could not agree more with you.

    Aug. 21, 2014 1:07 p.m.

    As a Utah Alum and fan, I do not like being lumped in together with BYU. We are not sister Universities. Write a BYU article of write a Utah article. I prefer as much distinction between the two schools as possible. I know a lot of my friends feel the same. I bet even BYU folks would be ok with it that way as well.

  • Kaladin Northern, CO
    Aug. 21, 2014 12:16 p.m.

    @Chris B - Cheating scandal? Thank you for the humor. Nothing to little will be the sanction.

  • G-Day-M8 Where is Waldo, UT
    Aug. 21, 2014 11:09 a.m.

    @ Chris b

    And you know all of this? Please tell us how you know it. Oh, never-mind, I found the source, The I hate all things BYU comments hand book, buried deep inside the NCAA rule book section on BYU . Ha ha, wink wink

  • SLCguy Murray, UT
    Aug. 21, 2014 10:43 a.m.


    1) The NCAA is a corrupt bureaucracy that has individual agendas to benefit certain memebers and groups over others.

    2) Follow the money ..... always follow the money ..... ever since the Football playoff s were announced not ONE school has been punished for Football team impropriety. BECAUSE the NCAA schools want to make sure they MAXIMIZE their take ($$$$) within its new system

    3) The SEC rules the NCAA regarding rules violations ...whatever is good for the SEC IS the priority. They have hired several NCAA employees to run their compliance departments NOT because they are so efficient but rather because they KNOW where all the dead bodies are buried

    4) The LAST major penalty to ever be handed out will be the one to USC. They deserved it since their AD & President are idiots and thought the rules were fair.

    I mean they lost THIRTY scholarships for Reggie Bush taking money to LEAVE college ...... How does THAT benefit USC?? I can tell you WHO it benefitted though; the SEC (can't have anyone challenging THEIR dominance now can we) everyone else that competes regularly for the National Championship and Notre Dame!

    USC was TOO good under Pete Carroll and got ripped for it

    Aug. 21, 2014 9:17 a.m.


    Where did you get the "death penalty" idea? Certainly not from this article which is mostly about minor violations and how easy it is to accidentally violate NCAA rules.

    The NCAA's death penalty is where a school is banned from a sport for at least a year and I haven't heard anything about Utah facing such an extreme penalty.

  • backpacn Sandy, UT
    Aug. 20, 2014 10:17 p.m.

    "...a public records search by The Salt Lake Tribune revealed in June that the University of Utah had self-reported 99 NCAA violations between 2010 and 2013, with offenses including a student-athlete mentioning a family business in an interview, someone placing impermissible stickers on recruiting letters, coaches answering texts, and a player tweeting about a recruit."

    So the Utes were facing the death penalty for placing impermissible PAC 12 stickers on recruiting letters?