@ Patriot,I truly pity folks who share your myopic views and
simplistic approaches to suicide and depression. Until you have stood in the
shoes of someone who has had to suffer with the monster and demon that is
depression, you will never know how it is to live with it. To simply say
'don't drink' and 'don't do drug's' displays
the overreaching ignorance of so many people. I've been admitted to an
Inpatient Psychiatric Unit due to an attempt to end my life. I had everything
going well for me in my life: a loving wife, two great children, a good paying
job and I was active in church, but depression was the 800lb gorilla in my life
and in spite of how good things were, I could and still cannot shake this
burden.Depression is real. Suicide is seen as the only means
available to deal with its debilitating effects. Help is out there, but
sometimes depression cannot allow one to see the help until it is too late. God rest Robin's soul and may his family one day find comfort and
A close friend of mine has been a good friend of Robin's for over 30 years
and I trust her opinion. He was a very generous, intelligent, geniune man who
had demons. Whether sober or not, they were something he dealt with daily. I
agree with Tolstoy, the comments from some of the posters tell us more about
their charecter than anything we know of someone who battles depression.
I'd be proud to call someone like Robin a friend more so than someone who
has never walked in his shoes but is so easy to pass judgement. RIP.
Robin aWilliams was an actor he didn't write the lines here or live thm. A
better name for acting is pretending. He was a good pretender. Christian Bale
isn't Batman either. Williams was funny and very creative in real life
and battled a tough disease, it's too bad. Take it seriously in yourself
or your friends .get help
@USAlover:"Neanderthal...probably a good choice of usernames."Now, if he were to drag a woman across the stage by her blonde hair in
his leopard skins carrying a club, beating his chest... that would be comical.
Wait, if I'm not mistaken, I think he did that is one of his Mork &
re:TolstoyDo you know for a fact that his cocaine abuse and his
alcohol abuse didn't contribute heavily to his suicide? Do you? MY point
is we DON'T know. What DO we know is that Williams was BACK into a alcohol
rehad center in 2014 - yes just a few months ago!! People don't want to
hear that Williams might have contributed to his demise they instead just want
to ignore that uncomfortable part and just focus on the victim part. Sorry
charlie but you have to look at both the depression and the drug and alcohol
abuse together. Drug and alcohol may not have been the main reason he took his
life but to suggest they played no part is to simply put your head in the sand.
It is so much easier for us to paint our Hollywood hero's as victims but I
am suggesting that it s more likely only partly true. Drugs are an accelerator
to any existing illness and Williams would be the first to tell you that as he
did many times on talk shows and interviews. His death is tragic of couse but so
was his life style.
@patriotI hope you realize that your off color remarks about Mr.
Williams reflects poorly on your own character not his.
@patriotMr. Williams had cocaine addiction in the 70s and 80s. Even
though he admitted his failure to alcoholism, and he took measures to deal with
his drinking problem, he said publicly that he would never return to cocaine.Unless there is medical evidence that drug was involved in his death,
let's not assume cocaine was the source of Mr. Williams' problem.
Depression can cause suicide and is far more complicated than many of us know,
and not every depression case is highly treatable with medications, just think
about Pastor Rick Warren's poor son. When dealing with depression, some
people turn to food, some turn to alcohol, some even finally turn to suicide.
I wish Mr. Williams rest in peace. Judging does not seem to fit in
Neanderthal...probably a good choice of usernames.
Let’s not dwell on the dark side. To everything there is a season and a
time to every purpose under the heaven. This is a time for eulogizing as
bereaved fans grieve a loss remembering the merriment brought to millions by one
@Tennor:"And thanks for a great little collection."I
see nothing inspirational, memorable, or funny about them. And I had a hard
time finding anything funny about his 'comedy' routines. But to cut a
life short by unnatural death is sobering and sad, nonetheless.
Patriot, I don't think it matters what came first. I agree, indulging
in any addiction makes any situation worse. It's a vicious circle that is
hard to break out of. Hollywood is not the only place awash with substance
abuse, just the most public. Even people with moral compasses take their life
due to depression. It's not such a simple line to draw as we might all
So easy to judge isn't it. I'm married to a beautiful woman, have
wonderful kids, the house is paid off, and I have money in the bank. Yet, for 3
years, I've battled depression/anxiety in varying intensities. It was so
unexpected, so unpredictable that it still astonishes me to this day. And, for
the judgmental types, I've never had a drop of alcohol or illegal drugs.
The stigma of mental illness may take generations to overcome, but it afflicts
the sharpest, kindest, and most talented among us...yet we are ashamed.My only advice is to seek competent medical help (and get 2nd opinion always),
surround yourself with loving people, slow down and live each moment. Although
my faith sustains me most of the time, the spells of despair seem to lock even
Him out of the picture, but you trust in the fact that despair eventually gives
way to light. All emotions are impermanent. Here's to better education,
more scientific research to treat, and more patience and understanding for those
who find themselves afflicted. By the grace of God, go I....
re:jeanieor could it be the other way around? Could the drug abuse
and alcohol abuse have led to depression? Williams spent decades in and out of
rehab centers for hard drugs and alcohol so it could be that either he used the
drugs to deal with the depression OR his depression came on as a result of his
substance abuse. Either way - the bottom line is IF you are dealing with some
sort of illness drugs and alcohol will only make things worse ...much worse
....to the point of not being able to cope at all. Hollywood is afloat with all
sorts of substance abuse and with no moral compass to live by there this is the
perfect storm for suicide.
Too bad some from his movie "Awakenings" were not included. One of Robin
William's best rolls and best movies. Too undermentioned and under
And thanks for a great little collection. Williams made us laugh and cry and
inspired us through many of roles. He was a great talent and he'll be
1a. If you have depression, seek and follow medical counsel.
Patriot,While I do not condone drugs or alcohol be careful not to
assume those were the source of Mr. Williams problems that led to his death.
Most people who struggle with addictions have deeper issues that they are
running from through the abuse of many things. How many of us turn to food when
we're upset or stressed and are therefore overweight? Alcohol
and drug abuse were likely symptoms of a more painful illness. Judge not seems
to fit here.
1. don't take drugs2. don't drink booze ....