Asylum Reform and Border Protection Act does not match up with Utah ideals

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  • prelax Murray, UT
    Aug. 13, 2014 5:33 p.m.


    They are coming here because Obama is not deporting people.

    Do you think it's fair that American citizens are put in jail, yet people here illegally get away with id fraud everyday?

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Aug. 13, 2014 1:10 p.m.

    @slar... trivializing... no. Putting things in context, yes.

    So exactly what are the numbers of people who are "steal id, uses someone's social security number or commits perjury on I-9 forms". I don't know. Do you? Neither do I know the number of people who cheat on their taxes, take pay under the table and don't report it, take deductions they shouldn't, falsify information on their resumes and job applications, lie to employers why they are late or missed work... I don't have the numbers of those people either.

    Even the best intentioned break laws inadvertently. And a lot would break laws like listed above if the safety and health of their families were at risk. What I do know is the number of perfect people is rather low... and the number of eligible stone throwers is significantly lower than the number of those tossing stones.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Aug. 13, 2014 1:02 p.m.

    ProudDuck.. you were right... in the early days of the act it did not call out Hispanics because they were not the issue. The then problem was Eastern Europeans. Harry Truman put it best when he said,

    "Today, we are "protecting" ourselves as we were in 1924, against being flooded by immigrants from Eastern Europe. This is fantastic...We do not need to be protected against immigrants from these countries–on the contrary we want to stretch out a helping hand, to save those who have managed to flee into Western Europe, to succor those who are brave enough to escape from barbarism, to welcome and restore them against the day when their countries will, as we hope, be free again....These are only a few examples of the absurdity, the cruelty of carrying over into this year of 1952 the isolationist limitations of our 1924 law."

    Truman had just vetoed McCarran–Walter Act, which was later over-ridden. But I am sure you are aware of all this plus the Naturalization Act of 1790 that bared all non-whites from becoming citizens. It was absolutely all about race. It was then, and is now.

  • SLars Provo, UT
    Aug. 12, 2014 3:21 p.m.


    If a US citizen steal id, uses someone's social security number or commits perjury on I-9 forms we go to jail. How is that like speeding? Don't trivialize people coming here illegally to steal jobs and citizenship.

    Over one million people come here legally each year, so much for the "everyone does it" justification.

  • TheProudDuck Newport Beach, CA
    Aug. 12, 2014 12:35 p.m.

    Blue Devil: Wrong on the history. The "National Origins Formula," and the immigration laws that applied it, did not apply to immigration from Latin America. Until the 1965 Immmigration and Nationality Act, there *was* no restriction on immigration from Latin America.

    The "National Origins Formula" mostly affected Poles and Italians, immigration of neither of which group is at all relevant to the current immigration debate.

    Before inviting a history major to bone up on his history, bone up yourself.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Aug. 12, 2014 7:03 a.m.

    @rbb.... so you have only broken the speed limit or driving laws once, and that on singular event, you got caught. Impressive.

    I can guarantee you most people have broken the speed limit far more than the single instance you did. I applaud you for your faithfulness. I can assure you based on past experience, that on my drives between Salt Lake and Lehi, you would be a true exception to what is the norm on that road... or most the roads I drive, in and outside of Utah.

    Lets put it this way. Most people, if their family was at risk, would break the speed limit to get their family to safety. In fact, I think most people would risk getting a ticket to feed, cloth, and provide shelter for their families if that is what was needed to provide for them.

    @proudduck... what you are saying would be true if it were not for realities of history. Early on quotas of immigration were absolutely based on ethnicity. Its not conjecture, its a historical fact. What we are dealing with are the remnants of that history. Read up on the National Origins Formula of 1921.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 11:23 p.m.

    If following the law is so important then why don't repubs ever get on those American employers who break the law by employing illegal Latinos? Why do they get a free pass while illegal Latino immigrants are thrown the book?

    Some consistency would be nice!

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 4:30 p.m.

    Bingo! But the Wilberforce Law was quick, dirty and could get these teens planted in the USA and into the shadows. Who ever shows up for deportation hearings? Better yet, who shows up to get on a plane to leave the country?
    Besides, Obama can Blame Bush for Wilberforce. It's a perfect law in the eyes of our progressives.

  • TheProudDuck Newport Beach, CA
    Aug. 11, 2014 4:03 p.m.

    When a town puts restrictions on how many new developments can be approved, to prevent a too-rapid influx of newcomers from overwhelming parks, schools, infrastructure, public services, and quality of life -- it's responsible government.

    When a nation puts restrictions on how many immigrants shall be admitted, to prevent a too-rapid influx of newcomers from overwhelming parks, schools, infrastructure, public services, and quality of life -- it's mean-spirited racism.

  • TheProudDuck Newport Beach, CA
    Aug. 11, 2014 3:58 p.m.

    Let's be clear: Bishop Wester wants more immigration. He wants less enforcement of our already barely enforced immigration laws. He wishes that the provisions of the Wilberforce Act continue to be ignored, applying them far beyond their legal anti-trafficking function. He is complicit in the disappearance of these "children" into American society, disregarding their obligation to show up for immigration hearings.

    He's fine with all that. Because it suits his political interests. Honest men do otherwise.

  • TheProudDuck Newport Beach, CA
    Aug. 11, 2014 3:53 p.m.

    What's missing here is an acknowledgment that the Trafficking Victims Protection Act is already being abused. The procedures for hearings are only supposed to apply to people who are reasonably suspected to be victims of human trafficking, not to all unaccompanied minors across the board.

    The open-borders crowd is abusing the law by applying it indiscriminately. By any means necessary, as usual.

    Aug. 11, 2014 2:32 p.m.

    Have I ever gone more than 55 in a 55 zone? No, I have gone 35 in a 25, received a ticket, paid the fine, and learned a lesson.

    I expect everyone else who breaks the law to pay the price of breaking the law also, in line with the penalties described by law. Like a father to his child, teaching prober behavior, punishment is to deter people from breaking the law. Rewards are to thank those who did.

    If the government released the names of employers, I would call them out, but they are not released to the public, unless the business agrees. Usually it comes with a promise of reduced fines.

    ID theft, social security fraud and I-9 perjury are serious crimes, many citizens are in jail by doing the same thing. Where is equal justice under the law?

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Aug. 11, 2014 1:32 p.m.

    @rbb.... you ever gone more than 55 in a 55 mph zone? Just wondering.

    Last I checked, there was only one person who has lived on this earth. Now I don't condone people who come into this country illegally, but this selective treatment of them I find most hypocritical. Do we raise as much ruckus about our neighbors who broke the law on the way to work this morning? Or those who have been late in paying their taxes? Or had their kids miss school even when they weren't really sick so they could go on a family trip? How about all those that have music on their iPhones/Android devices that they didn't pay for? Where is condemnation for those people who have broken laws that in the eyes of the legal system are just as egregious as these "illegal" aliens. Do we condemn the kids in our wards for pirated movies and music - a violation of both US and international laws.

    If your going to spew condemnation - do it equitably. Call out your neighbors out for their illegally parked boat in their front yard - or the employers who hire these illegals.

    Be consistent.

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 1:27 p.m.

    Re: "The result in such a scenario is almost guaranteed — returning the child to the violence from which they fled and possible death. This is certainly not humane."

    Bishop, you're a good man. But, as you mentioned, you're a newcomer here. I'll let you in on a little secret -- the children showing up our borders today are not fleeing violence or death. They're not fleeing from anything. They're fleeing toward a better life.

    And who can blame them? Not Rep Chaffetz. He just wants what's best for both them and for America -- for these youngsters to make that better life among the families they left behind. And, to control the borders, so as to deter other opportunistic parents from sending their kids on these long, dangerous journeys.

    Ultimately, the nations to which these kids are returned will also benefit. Kids with the moxie, perseverance, and entrepreneurial spirit demonstrated by these kids will be an incalculable asset to their families, their communities, and their nations.

    It's way past time America stopped skimming the cream off the top. These kids both safer, and more needed, at home.

  • dave4197 Redding, CA
    Aug. 11, 2014 12:44 p.m.

    anti liar
    I stand with Bishop Wester and call for us to help those in need. You call for us to write them tickets and lump them together in a guilt by association gambit.
    I point out a spiteful message that is the true opposite of compassion, you see the emperor's new clothes and completely lose track of a logical discussion.

    I do agree with your point about cheap labor but I'd amend it this way - besides businessmen, the retail customer is guilty when they buy goods and services made by people earning less than a living wage. So are you one of those businessmen you call out or are you a retail customer patronizing businesses who you call out?

    True friends and neighbors in our hemisphere help each other, share each others burdens, and we don't count the cost too closely. We US citizens living with the predominant democracy and economy in the world should do nothing less than give a hand up to the poor in our own hemisphere instead of putting the boot of the law on their necks.

  • anti-liar Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 11:08 a.m.


    "... with the view of the millennium that there shall be one common language and no flags fying over any land, with no poor among us, how do be justify such uncharitable attitudes now?"

    Easy. By noting that until Jesus comes again, He expects us to obey, honor, and sustain the law.


    How typical of the Left to project dubiousness of motive, and the technique of pandering, onto the Right.

    No, illegality is not a "moral fiber of our nation."

    And when success is based on illegality and disrespect for one's neighbor, then yes one's success is a threat to another's success. That goes for both the illegal alien and the self-centered American empoyer who profits by employing him.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 10:57 a.m.

    This compassion competition between the LDS Church and the Catholic Church is an interesting one.
    But amnesty is not the moral high ground for either church.

    Aug. 11, 2014 10:33 a.m.


    “Good, law-abiding citizenship is a key to more abundant, joyful living. Taxes could be much lower, people would be more happy with their neighbors, homes would be strengthened, and each individual would find more inner peace, if laws were better observed.”

    LDS President Spencer W. Kimball
    Ensign Magazine - 1977

    D&C 42: 79, 84-86
    84 And if a man or woman shall rob, he or she shall be delivered up unto the law of the land.
    85 And if he or she shall steal, he or she shall be delivered up unto the law of the land.
    86 And if he or she shall lie, he or she shall be delivered up unto the law of the land.

    illegal aliens cross the bounds of their habitation (Acts 17:26) in violation of the law.

    "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber." (John 10:1)

    Has God ever promised a reward for wrong behavior? What makes you think it should happen now?

  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 10:15 a.m.


    After reading these kinds of editorials, I can see why church attendance/congregations are diminishing for some churches.

    Obviously, (this particular author at least), puts the interests of illegal aliens BEFORE those of legal American citizens.

    Various denominations serve a great purpose when they admonish their members to improve their conditions where they live. They serve at cross-purposes when they encourage them to break the law - any law. That is what the writer is referring to, and he knows it.

    BTW - HOW MANY illegal alien trespasser children I wonder do they have enrolled in the (pricey) parochial schools? With free tuition?

    I guess its' always best to advocate for "someone else" to pay for the charity they like?

    I HOPE this is NOT the Catholic Church's position on this subject. If so they are on the wrong side of the issue, both morally and legally!

  • Ajax Mapleton, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 10:13 a.m.

    I have never for a moment believed the claims of hard right opponents of any amnesty whatsoever for illegal immigrants that the issue for them truly hinges on legality. Clearly, as I see it, the legality argument is simply a rationalization or facade for, among other things, a deep seated fear that other’s success somehow threatens their own.

    That Hispanic illegal immigrants in particular are in the main anything less than a net benefit for our economy and the moral fiber of our nation is a self-deceiving fantasy. For a politician to pander to such base sentiment for personal gain is highly unfortunate.

  • Danite Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 10:00 a.m.

    A wise king once posed the question "Are we not all beggars before God?" Particularly for Latter-day Saints, with the view of the millennium that there shall be one common language and no flags fying over any land, with no poor among us, how do be justify such uncharitable attitudes now?

  • anti-liar Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 9:17 a.m.


    "...crossing the border does not constitute a serious an infraction."

    A rationalization. It is in fact a misdemeanor crime. Plus, illegal entry is only one of the numerous crimes in the typical illegal alien's criminal portfolio.

    "We are friends and neighbors in this hemisphere..."

    True friends respect borders and laws of sovereign nations.

    "... a spiteful message ... not humanitarian nor compassionate."

    You do bear false witness.

    "Let's not slam the door on a bunch of poor people."

    If you truly care about these individuals, why not encourage them to build up their own countries?

    Or is illegal-alien cheap labor, at the expense of American taxpayers who must subsidize their wages and pay in other ways as well, too much for self-centered American businessmen to resist?

    Aug. 11, 2014 8:37 a.m.

    After weeks of insistence that criminal violence was responsible for the surge of Central American migrants, the U.S. has begun a regional public-relations campaign to fight the widespread belief in Central America that children and families will be allowed to stay in the U.S. if they are caught by the Border Patrol.

    That belief has been fueled both by migrant smugglers seeking more clients, and by calls home from children and families who have been released by the thousands in recent years, with notices to appear in immigration court, because there are no facilities to hold them. DN June 20

    I see people are still trying to convince us that a duck is not a duck, and teenagers are not coming for amnesty? The elephant in the room is the 290,000 adults allowed to stay.

  • dave4197 Redding, CA
    Aug. 11, 2014 7:44 a.m.

    BYU Alum
    your post is about guilt by association. not humanitarian nor compassionate. like Chaffetz. you complement each other.

    I have a different view. Hope you can see the light, after all you're a BYU Alum. I have some BYU Alums in my house. Most of these people are fleeing violence, seeking safety and opportunity. Most are not what you say, you need to get your facts straight, of course there are a few criminals that we need to jail and deport, but crossing the border does not constitute a serious an infraction. Most of these people just need a shelter and a chance.

    Your suggestion about housing them is a good one. I'm seeking to do that.

    But not in order to send your message. My message is Bienvenidos Amigos! We are friends and neighbors in this hemisphere, let's act the part. C'mon Alum! If you truly "feel sorry" then be helpful instead of sending a spiteful message that is just the opposite of compassion. We have a relatively opulent economy, we have education, we personally have untapped abilities to help and teach. Let's not slam the door on a bunch of poor people.

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    Aug. 11, 2014 12:04 a.m.

    Lots of opinions stated here with a lot of passion on both sides.

    Rep. Chafettz is NOT a mean-spirited person, but a very good congressman. Something has to be done to stop this flow of illegal immigrants through our southern border. More of these people coming into the country now are drug dealers and unsavory individuals who will not contribute to society but intend to do us great harm! We cannot take everybody (millions and millions) who wants to come to this country and live on the dole. Use common sense. There has to be someone, somewhere who tries to stop this overwhelming flow of people! Jason Chafettz is one of those people.

    I would like to suggest that all of those who disagree, contact Homeland Security and volunteer to take several of these "children", and teenagers into your home, relieve the problem, and stop complaining about someone who is trying to get the message to Central America and Mexico to please stop coming. I, too, feel sorry for these unfortunate little children, but there has to be a solution to have this migration stop before they come across the border!

    Aug. 10, 2014 6:39 p.m.

    What's going on here?

    Chaffetz bill is no longer relevant. It was written into the House bill.

    One fourth of the teenagers (90% of the *children*) are from Mexico, and the law doesn't apply to them. 66% came here with a parent or guardian. There is already an option to send the rest home. No law needs to be passed.

    And what about the 290,000 adults that have been given allowed into the country, if they promise to appear in court.

    This looks more and more like a finely crafted diversion. I fear if we don't enforce our laws now, America is doomed.

  • RichardB Murray, UT
    Aug. 10, 2014 5:11 p.m.

    Bishop John C. Wester has always used keeping the families together as a way to drum up support for illegal immigration. Now he wants us to keep the children here, and separate them from their family in their own country?

    If you place the children here with other people illegally, they never show up to court. That's good enough reason to hold them in sutibile facilities. They are here because of Obama not enforcing the laws and giving a de feacto amnesty. It's time to stop trying to convince America otherwise.

  • anti-liar Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 10, 2014 5:06 p.m.

    "...except those whose social agenda is based on xenophobia and hatred."

    A flat-out lie.

    "Obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law" is not hatred. Rather, it is the only way to show love and compassion to everyone.

  • SLars Provo, UT
    Aug. 10, 2014 3:38 p.m.

    Once again, why pick on Chaffetz when his bill has already been covered by another bill that has been passed? It all sounds very political.

    Any parent knows that rewarding the bad behavior of a child results in more bad behavior. True compassion is leading people down the road of good behavior, and rewarding them for their efforts. Bad behavior should never be rewarded.

  • Danite Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 10, 2014 1:05 p.m.

    Bishop Wester gave a speech to a small group at BYU two years ago and I was very impressed with him then. He is great man and I'm pleased that he speaks out so directly on specific issues like this. Chaffetz is an opportunist and lacks compassion, I for one cannot support him.

  • SLars Provo, UT
    Aug. 10, 2014 12:56 p.m.

    Chaffetz bill addresses the reason the children (teenagers) are coming here. "Amends the William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008 to direct the Secretary of State to negotiate agreements between the United States and other countries for the repatriation of children. Requires that such agreements protect children from severe forms of trafficking in persons and provide for their safe removal and repatriation."

    The teenagers coming over the border are not refugees, they are here for the amnesty. They were not trafficked here, their parents paid people to bring them here.

    Why pick on Chaffetz? His bill has already been passed as part of the house bill right before the recess. It ends the DACA, ends the Wilberforce bill being used incorrectly, and appropriates money for their deportation. The Wilberforce bill has an opt out for exceptional circumstances. The President could be returning them to their families right now.

  • K_ANN Palatka, FL
    Aug. 10, 2014 12:51 p.m.

    What about the helpless children dying in the desert because of this administration's siren song- those deaths are on the hands of Washington.

  • JoeCapitalist2 Orem, UT
    Aug. 10, 2014 12:48 p.m.

    Some people seem to think that unless you open up your home and let in anyone who wants to come live there, then you are not charitable. While more can probably be done to help people in other countries, the answer is not to invite everyone in the world to come live here in the U.S.

    America is one of the most charitable countries in the world. People freely give money, time, and goods to help poor people all over the world. We let in millions of LEGAL immigrants every year. But if we don't have laws and a border that are respected by people in this country and by people who want to come to this country, then we really are not a country then are we?

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Aug. 10, 2014 12:47 p.m.

    That because Jason Chaffetz is a Tea-Publican first and foremost,
    and true follower of Jesus Christ second, or third, or fourth....

  • prelax Murray, UT
    Aug. 10, 2014 11:42 a.m.

    In 2013 9% of the children coming here were 12 years or younger. That means 91% are teenagers. Among all countries, less than 1% (94 cases) of apprehended unaccompanied children are younger than 1, and only about 2% (785) are 5 or younger (PEW research)

    Also 2 out of three are coming here with a parent or guardian. Honduras sent the most, 13,244, Mexico was second at 11,550, next was Guatemala with 11,449, and El Salvador with 9.835.

    Let this be the last time we see this happen.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 10, 2014 11:41 a.m.

    RE: James E "I'm so tired of this false charity. Providing an incentive for Central American parents to send their girls and boys north to the Promised Land is NOT charity. Using the bodies of dead children to promote your social agenda is NOT charity. Releasing children to other people already here illegally is NOT charity. These children are being used as drug mules, sex slaves, and many other heinous activities and enabling their travel into the US is NOT charity."

    Sending these children back to narco-dominated communities as fast as we can is NOT charity!

  • sally Kearns, UT
    Aug. 10, 2014 11:37 a.m.

    Thank you James E.
    In my studying of this issue, it is the charities, including religious charities that are financially benefiting from this abuse.

  • Ajax Mapleton, UT
    Aug. 10, 2014 11:33 a.m.

    Finally, someone who speaks the truth. Thank you Bishop Wester.

  • prelax Murray, UT
    Aug. 10, 2014 11:31 a.m.

    The mostly teenagers are here for amnesty. If we don't return them it will only lead to more coming here illegally.

    If we want to stop them, and save future surges, dying in the desert and being raped, we need to force them to come here legally. Their parents are paying enough for it, one has to question why they use the illegal path.

    Compassion would be stopping millions more from coming here illegally. Teaching them that doing things right has rewards, and doing things wrong does not.

  • JayTee Sandy, UT
    Aug. 10, 2014 11:17 a.m.

    Yeah, I guess the only really humane and charitable thing to do would be to just erase the borders entirely, and let all 7,000,000,000 of the world's destitute come here, take all available jobs, and gather their sustenance from the U. S. taxpayer. Anything less surely just wouldn't be Christian. That's where we're headed, right? Should be wonderful.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Aug. 10, 2014 11:13 a.m.

    James E -- please, please spend some time working to learn the truth about what is happening here. Turn off the hate radio and listen to people who tell the truth.

    People like Bishop Wester.

    NO ONE is trying to use these children to promote their social agenda except those whose social agenda is based on xenophobia and hatred. That includes Mr. Chafetz and many of his GOP accomplices.

  • Mack2828 Ft Thomas, KY
    Aug. 10, 2014 11:08 a.m.

    I support Rep. Chaffetz and this bill that he is sponsoring. I appreciate that he has the courage to do what is right in regards to illegal immigration
    We show a shallow and counterfeit love if we just ignore the law, and let them come in illegally and live with their relatives who are already here illegally. What does that teach them? That laws don't matter?
    These illegal immigrants will be more blessed in the long run if they learn about the rule of law and how important it is to the stability of a society. Running away from their problems and illegally entering another country is not the solution.
    True love and concern for their long term well being would call us to securely close our border and speedily send home those who have illegally crossed it. Once they are safely home they and their parents can do the courageous, hard work necessary to clean up their own country and make it great.

  • anti-liar Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 10, 2014 9:18 a.m.

    "Thou shalt bear false witness," "Thou shalt not steal," and "Thou shalt not covet," also are very much part of the Gospel. The Texas border situation has been found to be largely a scam, rife with violations of these three commmandments.

    Already it has been found for example that very few of the individuals entering illegally are in fact the young children; that of these, fewer still are in fact unnaccompanied (many of them have illegal-alien parents waiting for them in this country, by strategem); that fewer still are in fact fleeing hunger and violence at the peril of their lives (this notion, designed to deviously manipulate the emotions of Americans, has been debunked -- for the most part, those making the trek to enter this country illegally are doing so not because of imminent danger, but rather in direct response to Obama's promise of no deportation.

    Most are in fact adults coming here in a covetous desire to enjoy the fruits of freedom but without a willingness to pay the price attached thereto. Other parties, with ulterior motivations, are helping to facilitate this illegal and immoral enterprise.

    Chaffetz' proposal seeks to administer relief "In wisdom and in order."

  • James E Tooele, UT
    Aug. 10, 2014 8:39 a.m.

    I'm so tired of this false charity. Providing an incentive for Central American parents to send their girls and boys north to the Promised Land is NOT charity. Using the bodies of dead children to promote your social agenda is NOT charity. Releasing children to other people already here illegally is NOT charity. These children are being used as drug mules, sex slaves, and many other heinous activities and enabling their travel into the US is NOT charity. To say it is sanctions that abuse. Stop the insanity!

  • Gandalf Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 10, 2014 8:32 a.m.

    Let's be honest. Jason Chaffetz is, at his core, a political opportunist. His positions have relatively little to do with putting in place policies that help people and relatively much to do with promoting his own political self interest. There's nothing more to him than that.

  • dave4197 Redding, CA
    Aug. 10, 2014 7:30 a.m.

    My thoughts too, Bishop Wester. Thank you for writing clearly about the problems with Chavetz's proposed law, the problems include anti humanitarian, explicitly un-American.
    See my posts on this subject. I see that we have a wave of refugees, not invaders. I see that poor people need help right now with food and shelter, not jail. I see that the root problems include lack of education, gang related violence in their home country, and corrupt governments, but we're failing to even talk much about the root problems and how to change them. We can, we should, we're the example democracy for the world including our own hemisphere. We're failing for too many centuries to help the poor in our own back yard.
    Beinvenidos amigos. We can help. Not by Chavetz's law, by a higher law based on caring for our neighbors, based on humanitarian principles.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 10, 2014 1:34 a.m.

    "Denying a minor who may be a victim of human trafficking access to legal counsel in the highly complicated realm of immigration law may make deportation proceedings more expedient, but at what cost to basic human decency?"

    Court dates are terrifying WITH representation. I shudder to think what it is like for these kids.