Dan Liljenquist: Israel's right to defend itself: Hamas not productive peace participant

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  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    Aug. 9, 2014 7:09 a.m.

    “I was disgusted and angry to read former president Jimmy Carter’s puerile column . . . ?”

    Really Dan? Come on man . . . You calling Jimmy Carter’s well-thought-out column”puerile” is like a GW calling Lincoln a bad leader.

    “Puerile?” That’s descriptive of what passes for Conservative thought these days, but it’s not at all descriptive of ANYTHING Jimmy Carter has ever written.

    Carter’s points are valid, although inconsistent with your preferred reality.
    The only way we’re going to have progress in the Middle East is through change. But Netanyahu, wants to maintain a status quo of Israel standing on the neck of Palestine.

    So you think Hamas should not be recognized as a “legitimate political actor?” . . . Because you say they are terrorists.

    Let me remind you that the early Mormons were also considered to be terrorists by mainstream America. But things change don’t they? Things MUST change in order for any progress to be made.
    The status quo in the Middle East is NOT working.

    We need constructive change there . . . And not more overly-simplistic and puerile “Conservative” columns demanding the perpetuation of an unsustainable status quo.

  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    Aug. 8, 2014 8:50 a.m.

    Before you call Carter "disgusting and puerile," why don't you read a little history about what Carter actually accomplished with the Camp David Accords? He SAVED Israel from destruction.

    It's also instructive to see how he did it -- by diplomacy and an appeal to the humanity of the leaders, Begin and Sadat. Carter may well be the most remarkable diplomat this nation has seen in the last 50 years.

    Then maybe your unbelievably one-sided view (not surprising for a lawyer) might soften a little toward the people of Palestine.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Aug. 8, 2014 8:05 a.m.

    procuradorfiscal: "And, it's funny how the leftist media -- normally laser-focused and hyper-sensitive to such things -- completely ignores his rabid, unreasoning anti-Semitism."

    Understanding the difference between Nationalism and Judaism must be hard because Israel Tries to blur them and you fall for it. They are calling for their enemy "Israel" to fall, Israel is not "judaism" Israel is not the Vatican of the Jews. But then again I'm sure Carter knows far more about this because he's paying attention and has insight from his many dealings around the world, more than Lingquist or folks in Tooele.

  • the greater truth Bountiful, UT
    Aug. 7, 2014 5:48 p.m.


    The ultra-orthodox are not sending hundreds of bombs daily at Palestinain civilians.

    Unlike the hamas terrorists are doing to Israel.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    Aug. 7, 2014 4:50 p.m.

    Every person in this world has the legal right to defend himself against ANYONE who attack him, kill his children, burrow under his property or fire rockets at him.

    Why is Obama, Kerry and Carter oblivious to that simple truth?

    Every police force in the United States has the right to stop violence when it can be clearly determined who is attacking whom. Hamas is the ATTACKER. Israel is the ATTACKEE. Obama has no use for Israel. His friend, Kerry, has no use for Israel. Carter has made it clear throughout his life that he has no use for Israel. Why then did God chose the Jews to be His chosen people? Is it possible that those who run governments know nothing about God or His purposes and that they favor terrorists over God?

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 7, 2014 2:27 p.m.

    For every Hamas terrorist there is an ultra-orthodox Israeli signing, "This land is mine, God gave this land to me." Neither will peacefully relinquish any territory and Israel has legitimatized the principle of title-by-conquest. The Palestinians naturally assume that if/when they conquer land, it will legitimately be theirs.

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    Aug. 7, 2014 12:19 p.m.

    Jimmy Carter, having won the title Worst President, now insists on continuing the battle for the title Worst Ex-President, even though there's no one even close, in the running.

    And, it's funny how the leftist media -- normally laser-focused and hyper-sensitive to such things -- completely ignores his rabid, unreasoning anti-Semitism.

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    Aug. 7, 2014 6:27 a.m.

    I keep reading in the news that Israel is destroying militant tunnels. If that is true then the Israel is to blame for much of their own problems.

    Instead of focusing on militant tunnels, Israel should focus on destroying terrorist tunnels, they wouldn't have to deal with so much terrorism. Go after the actual terrorists Israel, the militants ought to be your second priority.