Randy Hollis: Any coach's secret to success — better players

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  • Transplanted to Texas San Angelo, TX
    Aug. 5, 2014 8:54 a.m.

    @positivethinker - Seriously? No-one said that Coach Whit was a bad judge of talent...but that's only a small part of the recruiting battle...what makes him a poor recruiter (in the PAC12) is that every time one of those other schools sweeps in and offers a scholarship...the kid takes it. You have to find the talent AND convince them to come play for you. That's where all of the schools in Utah fall behind.

  • positivethinker Magna, UT
    Aug. 4, 2014 4:16 p.m.


    Kyle Whittingham a Terrible Recruitier? Sorry....That Just is Not a True Statement.
    In Watching the PAC 12 Media Days, Every Single Coach Had Nothing But Great Respect and High praise for Whittingham. If Whittingham is such a bad recruitier, why then, when Utah gives an offer to a player the coaches have thoughly evaluated, why does the rest of the Pac 12 Coaches sweep in and make an offer to the Players Utah has already offered?

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Aug. 4, 2014 3:50 p.m.

    Randy, you make a good point. I too hope Coach Whitt isn't fired after this season, even if they go 5-7 again. There are some rumors coming out of the Ute athletic department suggesting Chris Hill doesn't want to go through another head coach hiring process. He is within a few years of retiring himself and favors leaving that up to his successor. I would guess he wants to stick around to dedicate the basketball facility, but could retire just after that in 2015 or 2016. Then his successor will have the job of making the decision on the head coach. If those rumors prove true, that will give Whitt more time to make the improvements needed. Dr. Hill's impending retirement could also be the reason he has delayed RES expansion. That is a huge project and he probably wants to leave that to his successor.

  • Transplanted to Texas San Angelo, TX
    Aug. 4, 2014 3:25 p.m.

    @Christopher B - why do all Ute fans continually compare themselves to BYU or other in-state programs. Who cares who 'continually wins the in-state recruiting battle'? So you have higher rated recruits than BYU...how does that translate into wins in the PAC12? Because, last time I checked, every single one of the top in-state recruits this year is headed to an out of state school...including a ton of your PAC12 competitors. Until you start out-recruiting THEM, you'll remain at the bottom of your own league. Congratulations on out-recruiting BYU, Weber State and USU! With those kind of recruits you'll definitely be able to compete in the MWC...oh wait...

  • Richapotamusrex lehi, UT
    Aug. 4, 2014 3:24 p.m.

    Owning the schools in Utah? Who cares? If Utah played in the fictional Utah conference that would be an accomplishment but they don't. They play in the PAC 12 and they keep getting worse each year. Kyle may be a good coach but he is a terrible recruiter and an even worse motivator because he has the ability to get as many "better players" as he wants but fails to do so year after year. He should take a look at what Skyline did and what Bingham and Timpview are doing now and maybe he can motivate his recruits, I mean "transfers", like they do.

  • NedGrimley Brigham City, UT
    Aug. 4, 2014 3:15 p.m.

    Well there you go, losing Fremont football players. Your coach says you must not be cut out to play football for such a great coach as he is. Kind of gives you a warm fuzzy, doesn't it? Sure would make me want to go give my all for the guy... (sarcasm off)

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    Aug. 4, 2014 11:54 a.m.

    It's not the x's and the o's, it's the Jimmy's and the Joe's.



    Kudos to Roger for putting the entire package together...

    Good system as well as good players who played hard.

    A tough nut to crack at any level.

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Aug. 3, 2014 8:27 p.m.

    What was amazing about Roger Dupaix while at Skyline is that he never had a losing season. Skyline also didn't lose a home playoff game. That's amazing consistency. To win state championships, you have to be in the playoffs and you have to win games in the playoffs and if given the home field for the first game or two, you can't squander that opportunity to advance.

  • Christopher B Ogden, UT
    Aug. 3, 2014 7:10 p.m.

    byu fans don't like to hear this - they think 2 star players in college are just as capable of doing big things(winning big time bowl games, competing for national titles, going undefeated) as are a team of mostly 4-5 stars.

    In fact multiple studies have shown a 5 star has the highest chance of being drafted.
    A 4 has a higher chance than a 3 or a 2, and a 3 has a higher chance than a 2.

    And on AVERAGE, recruiting services get it right and on AVERAGE the star rating of a team is very indicative of talent.

    Does it guarantee wins?

    No, and neither does good coaching, scoring lots of points, practicing, eating right, lifting weights, or even scoring lots of touchdowns.

    But those things help, as does having better players.

    And 4 out of the last 5 years the school with the highest ranked recruits?

    The university of Utah Pac 12 Utes

    Not surprisingly we've owned the other Utah schools during that time as well.

  • 79Ute Orange County, CA
    Aug. 3, 2014 4:22 p.m.

    I'm willing to be patient and assume the lessons of all of the fourth quarter meltdowns from last year have been mastered.

  • EPoint Roy, UT
    Aug. 3, 2014 3:37 p.m.

    I would add to the first comment, that the longer a Coach has to influence players, the more comfortable they are with his system, those are also very important. Players cannot expect to win without paying a price of practice, putting in the time,making the sacrifice, etc. Games are often won in the preparation, before they are played.

  • What in Tucket? Provo, UT
    Aug. 3, 2014 8:38 a.m.

    It is good to have good players, but in High School the coach makes a lot of difference in how a team plays.