Chaffetz brings East Coast congressman to Utah to hear about public lands, other West issues

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  • Don Bugg Prince Frederick, MD
    Aug. 7, 2014 12:22 p.m.

    I'd like to see the evidence behind mcclark's assertion, "Every National Park has turned out to be good for the local economy." And please, don't bother me with a couple of examples like Yosemite, and Yellowstone. I want to see the numbers showing that EVERY National Park has been economically beneficial, and MORE beneficial than letting states manage the land themselves.

  • andyjaggy American Fork, UT
    Aug. 4, 2014 10:53 a.m.

    When he sees southern Utah he may just decide it is definitely worth protecting more of it.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Aug. 4, 2014 10:41 a.m.

    So when is Utah going to pony up for that uranium clean-up, or isn't that part of Utah's track record too?

    Your land belongs to you. The Federal lands belong to US. You manage your's and our representatives at the federal level will manage ours, because the land belongs to all of us.

    I live near a city park that i think could be maintained better, does that make it mine? Can I alter it for my profit or gain? I mean it's public land too.

  • K.Call Moab, UT
    Aug. 4, 2014 10:19 a.m.

    Utah has a proven track record regarding it's ability to manage it's own affairs. We are capable of managing our own lands without federal oversight. Our arguments belong to us ~ so does our land.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Aug. 4, 2014 8:46 a.m.

    The trouble is Chafetz is going to hand select local ringers (see K. Call above) who believe that proximity is ownership, and that Environmental Protection is wrong.

    Those environmental laws are such a hassle, I mean what wrong with uranium tailings 300 ft from the Colorado that were left for All of America to Clean-up, after the company profited and left. I believe it's called a "Supersite" and that's just, well, Super to Chaffetz and Moab residents I guess.

    But the rest of the country probably thinks clean water and or air is a good thing.

    Tourism and beautiful open space is the gift that keeps giving,generation after generation. Unlike the dig it up, suck it out, take the money and run, industries that Chaffetz and other corporate bought conservatives have to pay back.

    I'd like to think, he has higher motives, but his track record is well....what exactly has Chaffetz done for since 2008?

    I type Chaffetz in google and it comes up "Chaffetz Benghazi" as someone else pointed out, he needs to change directions since that didn't pan out for him.

  • DonO Draper, UT
    Aug. 4, 2014 8:36 a.m.

    Good for Jason! Cummings may not change his views on public lands issues but this is the kind of "reaching across the aisle" that Congress badly needs. Political polarization is the reason,IMO,that Congress can/will do nothing of consequence for the American people.

  • Jack Aurora, CO
    Aug. 3, 2014 10:37 p.m.

    Looks like Mr Chaffetz is trying to show Mr Cummings what Utah really is. Since Mr Cummings is influential in Congress, it seems to make sense that Chaffetz would want others to see what they are voting about. Let Mr Cummings see the land, see the rivers, see Welfare Square and learn that government isn't the best at providing for the poor. Let him and others in Congress see how their votes affect people in Utah, that Utah isn't just a "fly-over" state with one or two people in it. I'm certain Mr Chaffetz had a few surprises when he saw Baltimore, since it isn't just the Inner Harbor and "Homicide" reruns.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Aug. 3, 2014 8:25 p.m.

    Can you imagine a river trip, passing strip mining? That's the vision that the Chaffetz team has for Utah.

  • K.Call Moab, UT
    Aug. 3, 2014 1:56 p.m.

    Environmental Protection Laws seem to supersede all other laws. It stands to reason that with such laws on the books it’s not going to matter if all the stakeholders in Utah agree on a lands initiative or not because the initiative can just be ignored by using a environmental protection law to circumvent it.
    As long as the environmental laws are on the books the “Grand Bargain” will not be worth the paper it is written on. The Bishop land initiative needs to overturn the legacy of environmental protection laws. Without these laws being overturned rural Utah will never get out from under environmentalism and the federal governments control.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Aug. 3, 2014 12:55 p.m.

    This is the first time every that I've been able to honestly say that Chafetz seems to be doing something right.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Aug. 3, 2014 12:35 p.m.

    Since bashing the President over Bengahzi hasn't pan out as hoped,
    now Jason Chaffetz will try showing off Utah's natural beauty
    as an example of Presidential over-reach --
    you know,
    the lands the President is trying to PROTECT!

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    Aug. 3, 2014 11:11 a.m.

    Im so glad that Chaffetz has enough time to go on vacation in southern Utah to enjoy the canyon lands.

    I'm so glad we don't have other issues like:

    Illegal immigration
    Higher education
    Health care
    Regulating Wall Street
    Updating our energy portfolio
    Saving the Middle-Class

    So yes, thank you Chaffetz for tackling the "toughest" issues first. While you're enjoying your vacation from reality (which seems to be your entire life) the rest of us will be saddled with the issues above. Thanks!

  • What in Tucket? Provo, UT
    Aug. 3, 2014 8:30 a.m.

    The reservation system is the reason Indians are poor. No property rights, and welfare. getting the dole does not help.

  • NeilT Clearfield, UT
    Aug. 3, 2014 7:19 a.m.

    I commend what he is doing. Our Junior Senator could benefit from his example. We need to get past demonizing members of the opposite party and see that we have some things in common.

  • My2Cents Taylorsville, UT
    Aug. 3, 2014 4:19 a.m.

    I'm glad Chaffetz has done this but for alternative reasons of turning over the land to state developers and destruction. My hope is that these congressmen will get a greater understanding of why they should not give Utah any of the land and to remind the congressmen that this land belongs to all of american states in preservation.

    If Utah state government was ever given contol to scorch the earth it will become a 1,000 mile long and 600 mile wide sand dune desert mimicking the Sahara of Africa.

    Its good that these congressmen can see and appreciate what these lands are and the value they present as world wide inspirations of the beauty of our natural landscapes. Utah wants to portray this land and the state a waste land not worth preserving so they can make some money to feed and expand more government and corporate profits.

    Creating 200 jobs is not worth the loss of 500 square miles of beauty. The corporate plan is to create 50 jobs for oil rig workers, 50 jobs for demolition corporations, and 100 jobs to bury and coverup the environmental destruction in ways it cannot be repaired.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 2, 2014 7:55 p.m.

    I M LD_ 2,

    if the feds did not own so much of our land, maybe there would not be as great a need for welfare square

    Or do you think welfare square is something to be ashamed of?

  • Shaun Sandy, UT
    Aug. 2, 2014 7:29 p.m.

    The majority of utah residents live from Provo to Ogden . Public land concerns is the least of my worries but unfornutley our congressmen give more time to wild horses and ranchers than the real problems that face us in the metropolitan area.

  • Curmudgeon Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 2, 2014 7:19 p.m.

    I M LDS 2:

    Good question. I was also wondering how a float trip on the Colorado relates to federal control of public lands. And how much that will cost. And who is paying for it. Can you say boondoggle?

    Maybe Chaffetz could arrange for Cummings to stay on a luxurious houseboat on Lake Powell. I've heard that works well in the business of influencing influential people. Oh wait, that's already been tried.

  • Baron Scarpia Logan, UT
    Aug. 2, 2014 7:18 p.m.

    If this exchange is done in the spirit of mutual understanding and cooperation across the political aisle, I'm very pleased to read this.

  • I M LDS 2 Provo, UT
    Aug. 2, 2014 4:39 p.m.

    What, exactly, does Welfare Square have to do with the federal control of public lands?

  • mcclark Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 2, 2014 4:19 p.m.

    Every National Park has turned out to be good for the local economy.