California is the richest and poorest state in the country

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  • A_Chinese_American Cedar Hills, UT
    Aug. 7, 2014 12:55 p.m.

    There TWO Significant factors at work today:

    1, Federal Government borrows 42 cents (this number will be higher this year and next 20 years) for each dollar it is spending, so the loose financial policies actually benefit top wealth people a lot (example, extra low interest, leads to low capital cost while investing);

    2, USA tax law CANNOT collect tax dollars from top wealth people (with tax layers’ help), all the “Tax Rich” policies actually pave the way to tax middle-class people (their percentage is shrinking).

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Aug. 6, 2014 4:06 p.m.

    Many Republicans are liberals in sheep's clothing.

    Arnold was never a conservative, and was terminated.

    Got to analyze the data, and not think in small terms.

    This is not about Republicans, or Democrats.

    It's about political leaders who do what's right for their state, and country.

  • chicagoborn Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 6, 2014 2:09 p.m.

    Well if we are going to simplify an issue by just looking at the political leanings of a state I guess we can factually say that red states get more help from the federal government than blue states just because they are run by Republicans. Small government am I right? Too bad California isn't run by Republicans now. It appears they have no qualms over asking the feds for more help.

  • Schnee Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 6, 2014 1:01 p.m.

    When's the last time Mississippi voted for a Democratic president?

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Aug. 6, 2014 11:51 a.m.

    Man Lost,

    You are flailing here.

    Let me help you. The data in Wiki IS the Census data. It is the OFFICIAL poverty data. I have not "searched for something to support my preconceived notion". I pulled the quickest source of data.

    Are you questioning the data in Wiki, or just looking to pose a lame argument?

    And why did I "wander off-topic to other states"?

    Well, it was clearly because some posters blamed the poverty rate in CA on democratic governors.
    If that were the case, then the logic would hold true for many/most states.

    That is clearly not the case, however, one must look at other states before one can make any conclusions.

    "TX may have its share of illegals, but it does not throw out the welcome mat like CA.

    The numbers would show that Texas has about the same percentage of "illegals", welcome mat or not. Logic again = Fail

    Look. There are well run red states and well run blue states. The need to cherrypick information in an effort to solidify a belief that anything R = Good and anything D = bad, seldom works. And it never_tells_the_complete_picture.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 6, 2014 10:44 a.m.

    Why did you cite wikipedia if you used census brueau data? Why not cite the census bureau? makes one wonder have far you searched for something to support you preconceived notion.

    But you talk governors, and wander off-topic to other states. The article is about CA, which has the highest poverty rate in the country. And CA's state government is designed to give the legislature more power and the governor less, so my statement still stands about states run by liberal democrats, because that is who controls the CA legislature. If you want to include the GOP governors that have been there, you could modify it slightly to say "states run by liberals"

    If you want to talk about best run states, look no further that UT, which is solidly red.

    TX may have its share of illegals, but it does not throw out the welcome mat like CA - there IS a difference.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Aug. 6, 2014 9:21 a.m.

    I used the Official Census Bureau Data as opposed to what the article cited which is a Supplemental Poverty Measure (SPM).

    So, my source is certainly valid. It is straight out of Table 4 in the article link.

    The SPM basically factors in various things , including areas with High Cost of Living. Still an alternate valid measurement, but not one that has been used for years and years.

    It still goes a long way in showing that the GOP run red states fare very poorly regardless of which methodology one chooses to use.

    And Anti liar writes

    "How do you think California became monopolized by liberal Democrats? Answer: Allowing illegal aliens to overrun the state."

    You may want to check out the other states that have "allowed illegal aliens to overrun the State"

    Most of them are solidly Republican. Texas ranks right up there with California.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 6, 2014 8:23 a.m.

    from the article:
    "census bureau report says that California ...has the highest poverty rate in the country at 24 percent — meaning almost a quarter of Californians live in poverty. "

    CENSUS bureau - official US government department, not wikipedia, where anyone can manipulate the data - says CA has the highest poverty rate.

    Makes you wonder how reliable your wikipedia source is when the CA does not even show up on it.

    census bureau data leads one to conclude the problem IS in states run by liberal democrats.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Aug. 6, 2014 8:19 a.m.

    "The current gov is a Republican (since 2012). Hopefully Mississippi has seen the light and started to turn right....toward commen sense."

    Patriot. - I was surprised at your post so I verified it. Yup, you were correct.

    However, what you did not point out is that in the last 22 years (Since 1992), Mississippi has had Republican governors for 18 of those years (Governor was dem from 2000-2004)

    Now, speaking of California,

    In the last 30 years, they have had a Republican governor in 24 of those years. (and 32 years on the last 50)

    One might conclude that electing Republican Governors is not the answer to combating poverty. In fact, the opposite case could be made much easier if one wanted to pin poverty to the Governors party affiliation. Not a case I would try to make though.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Aug. 6, 2014 5:37 a.m.

    "see what happens when a place is monopolized by liberal democrats? the income gap is HUGE! the highest poverty rate in the nation."

    Well, lets analyze that to see if "liberal democrats" are the cause.

    according to Wikipedia, the highest 10 poverty states (as of 2013) were

    40 - Tennessee
    41 - South Carolina
    42 - Arizona
    43 - West Virginia
    44 - Oklahoma
    45 - Arkansas
    46 - Texas
    47 - Alabama
    48 - New Mexico
    49 - Louisiana
    50 - Mississippi

    Based on the list, logic might lead one to conclude that the problem is NOT states run by "liberal Democrats"

  • anti-liar Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 6, 2014 12:51 a.m.

    How do you think California became monopolized by liberal Democrats? Answer: Allowing illegal aliens to overrun the state. In 18 short years -- a long time ago, by now -- the American-born children of these illegal aliens were able to vote in accordance with the Leftist values their parents naturally passed on to them. Of course many of the illegal aliens also voted, fraudulently. Selfish Republicans allowed it to happen because they wanted the cheap labor, irrespective of the consequences to society. No one need be surprised by the result.

  • OneWifeOnly San Diego, CA
    Aug. 5, 2014 12:46 p.m.

    The problem of income disparity is not unique to California. As the article noted, the most expensive real estate is along the coast and the least expensive is in the hotter inland areas where jobs may be less plentiful. But that be said of any state or city in the nation. How many poor people live in the penthouse across from Central Park? A notable and often discussed issue in San Diego is our large homeless population (third highest in the nation). This is caused, among other factors, by our temperate weather as we have the most moderate climate of any large city in the nation. That same climate, our business and science community, the talent coming out of our universities and overall quality of life attracts people from all over the world looking for opportunity. Some make it and for others, the cost of living is too high. Some of the people who come to California are not skilled and their wages reflect that. Others are highly skilled, talented or have an entrepreneurial spirit. Their wages and earnings potential are reflected as well. It is this diversity that makes me love to live in California and in San Diego.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Aug. 5, 2014 12:45 p.m.


    Since Mississippi became a state, it has had 64 governors, including 55 Democrats and only 5 Republicans. I think this explains why Mississippi has been so poor ...ya think? Once again, liberal economic policy at work. The current gov is a Republican (since 2012). Hopefully Mississippi has seen the light and started to turn right....toward commen sense.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Aug. 5, 2014 12:14 p.m.

    "Some experts are calling the Golden State "fool's gold" where pockets of Hollywood and Google exec riches are surrounded by a surprising degree of economic struggle."

    What do expect from a state run by Jerry Brown - Socialist and ultra liberal. Also the "open border" and safe haven for illegals that California has adopted for years has finally taken its toll economically. California is going to see a continued migration of companies out of Silcon Valley to states like Texas as the personal and corporate income tax continues to rise in California. Liberals just don't get it - they never will get it. Look at Detroit. Perfect example of liberal ruin.

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 5, 2014 12:14 p.m.

    Congress needs to pass one law. Allow the State of California to be the safe haven for liberals. Let them rule it as they see fit. Everyone else can watch the experiment. Once it fails, we run all of the liberals into the ocean. Reclaim the land and teach the lesson in all of our schools, so, hopefully our kids never forget how pointless the so called promises of liberalism.

  • Mexican Ute mexico, 00
    Aug. 5, 2014 11:56 a.m.

    Mexico is a more socialist country than the United States. Population around 100 million.

    The richest man, Carlos Slim, has more money than the combined salaries of 50 million Mexicans. He owns BY HIMSELF 3 percent of the GDP of the nation!

    Socialism will always create a very small elite class and a burgeoning underclass.

    A plan similar to that espoused in the preexistance, which a third of souls went along with it, and were cast out.

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 5, 2014 11:21 a.m.

    I don't buy into the notion that each of us needs to be connected soo much financially, politically etc. That we are not allowed to have our individual freedoms.

    For example the left is wanting to tax every teaspoon of sugar. Their minions dance up and down and chant yes we can, and then set up welfare tent cities next to banks and claim they're making a difference. However, if they truly were concerned about our health. Then they should ban cigarettes, marijuana, alcohol, all illicit drugs. They should end abortions except in a few situations and protect the life of the unborn.

    If the government is supposed to protect people from hate, bigotry, racism etc. Then it is constitutionally bound to protect those who worship. Freedom from those that desire to suppress religious expression from society.

    If liberals desire tolerance, they should start off by being tolerant themselves. Otherwise they are nothing more than the hypocrite or which their policies and maneuvers are geared to making themselves wealthier at the expense of everyone else.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 5, 2014 11:11 a.m.

    Well I suppose there is less income inequality in Mississippi where everyone is dirt poor...

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Aug. 5, 2014 10:51 a.m.

    Looking like Mexico

  • The Wraith Kaysville, UT
    Aug. 5, 2014 10:47 a.m.

    I'm sure glad that will all the complicated issues facing California the problem really just boils down to one simple answer: Liberals are bad. That should really help the California government solve all these problems.

    Of course this isn't any different then when articles come out showing that red states have more poverty or blue states have uglier people. Instead of looking at the complex nature of the issues it's devolves into a chance for one group to rip on the other.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Aug. 5, 2014 10:38 a.m.

    Interesting. Liberals are all about erasing the income inequality gap, and where does the largest income inequality gap exist? In their Mecca called California.

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 5, 2014 9:50 a.m.

    With all of the liberal policies, shouldn't everyone in California just be filthy rich?

    HA Ha Ha

    The fact is, liberalism protects those at the top. While forcing everyone in the middle to the bottom and making everyone into a bottom dweller. Once there, you become dependent and rely on the rich liberal democrats to promise you everything and tell you as long as you labor and vote for them and generate wealth for them. They'll take care of you.

    See how well that has worked.....

    Yes we can Yes we can Yes we can

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    Aug. 5, 2014 9:28 a.m.

    The fruits of socialism exposed in California! Hemorrhaging red ink socialist California! May the rest of us wise up before its too late!

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 5, 2014 8:41 a.m.

    see what happens when a place is monopolized by liberal democrats? the income gap is HUGE! the highest poverty rate in the nation.

    Way to go, dems, way to waste a place so rich in natural and human resources.

    A recent print story in the DN - could not find it in the on-line version, put every word in the headline in the DN search feature but to no avail - talked of how the GOP candidate for CA governor spent a weeks as a homeless man to better understand the plight of those governor moonbeam and the dem legislature only pay lip service to. Moonbeam’s spokesman’s response? Some blather about how TARP was spent, as if the GOP candidate had any discretion over how Paulson allocated the money authorized by a dem congress!

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    Aug. 5, 2014 7:46 a.m.

    Run by rich liberal Democrats!