How much is your diploma worth? Money magazine creates a new college ranking system

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  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 6, 2014 8:15 a.m.

    Of course BYU grads will make more. The women graduate at a smaller percentage. Many stay at home and raise kids. So their income or lack of income is not included in the final tally.

    I would like to look at the real numbers.

    Also, BYU get's to discriminate what students can attend. They pick a high percentage of people from wealthy families. Where as a state run school, has to diversify and pull in students regardless of their grades. The school makes more money by pulling in people that don't qualify.

  • Dr. Thom Long Beach, CA
    Aug. 4, 2014 9:50 p.m.

    Hmm. Didnt see West Point or Annapolis on the list

  • utesgoingdownthehill Salt Lake City , UT
    Aug. 2, 2014 8:21 p.m.

    BYU is good for undergrad and Utah is good for grad. No need to fight people.

  • Aurelius maximus Berryville, VA
    Aug. 2, 2014 9:12 a.m.

    @ Sports Are Great

    I think it was an Inspired decision that the Church changed Ricks to BYU-Idaho and turned it into a 4 year university.

    I went to BYU-Idaho.

    The name change was a very good idea because it spreads the BYU brand further. Many people simply truncate the Idaho part of BYU-Idaho. Even after I correct them they still just lump us in with the rest of the BYU-Provo people which I am fine with even though some BYU-Provo often get miffed when I tell them this. :)

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 1, 2014 5:50 p.m.

    No surprise to anyone except the usual utah "fans", and in truth it is no surprise to them either, they all know BYU is simply a better school with a far more valuable degree.

  • belgie Tualatin, OR
    Aug. 1, 2014 5:43 p.m.

    Clearly, this study does not take into account the types of degrees offered. When a college offers only degrees, or a disproportionate number of degrees, in high-paying professional fields, its graduates will obviously get more "bank for their buck" than the average of students at a university with a wide variety of degrees. It's therefore even more impressive that BYU cracked the top 10 of this list.

    I'd like to see a list that ranked bang for buck in specific fields - engineering, accounting, computer science, etc.

  • carman Wasatch Front, UT
    Aug. 1, 2014 4:53 p.m.

    This report is no surprise to anyone who has followed "bang-for-the-buck" types of college rankings over the years. BYU is regularly ranked in the top 5, and occasionally even #1. What is surprising is the company that BYU is in when looking through the Top 10. All of the other top 10 schools are much more expensive, exclusive schools with much higher selectivity scores.

    Graduates at the other top 10 schools make more money after graduation, though it is not clear that the school attended is the only factor. It could be, for example, access to family capital, social networks, better prepared secondary school students before getting to school, etc., etc. What is clear is that BYU students pay an awful lot less than the rest of the top 10.

    p.s. BYU Idaho is a leader in developing extremely high quality undergraduate programs at very reasonable costs. Colleges, universities and state legislatures around the country have studies the unique approaches implemented at BYU Idaho to see what they can learn from the success that BYU has shown there.

  • jmoscynski Norfolk, VA
    Aug. 1, 2014 3:49 p.m.

    Besides the monetary stakes, the quality of the instructors have been less than impressive with me. I attended Tidewater Community College and I am currently attending Saint Leo University on our local military campus. I am retired Navy. I was also a trained instructor and what is called a Master Training Specialist. Which means I not only can teach, but I can create a curriculum from scratch, write test, and so forth. Anyway sitting trough many classes I can professionally say the instructors I have observed if were in the service as instructors. Would be fired and sent packing back to the fleet.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Aug. 1, 2014 3:09 p.m.

    I think the main reason that USU is ranked higher than Utah is because the U of U is so expensive! While I was a senior at BYU I calculated that if I were attending the University of Utah instead I would have been paying about $1000 more per semester for tuition.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Aug. 1, 2014 2:50 p.m.

    @Blue - I had a slight adjustment since I do not work in my degree field. And now that I look at actual numbers I'm around 17x the total outlay for college. You've had an impressive rise, especially to have gotten 12x your investment just on your first job.

    I think this type of study really points that the savvy students find the best deal and then make that work to their advantage. For undergrad degrees there is less value in a more costly education, go for a respected and cheap program. Get in and out fast, know what you want to achieve financially, and go get it.

  • Dutchman Murray, UT
    Aug. 1, 2014 2:27 p.m.

    I couldn't be happier. I have a degree from BYU. This information needs to be quickly sent to the Big 12 Conference. I am sure it will change their minds.

  • BYU > USU > utah Anaheim, CA
    Aug. 1, 2014 2:13 p.m.

    #9 BYU
    #107 USU
    #122 Utah

    It's nice to have all of that research going on at the U, but when it comes to the value of an undergraduate education, Utah simply doesn't compare to BYU.

  • Oatmeal Woods Cross, UT
    Aug. 1, 2014 1:20 p.m.

    BYU at #9 and Utah State ranked higher than Utah? The best investment is to attend a "blue school!"

  • Blue AZ Cougar Chandler, AZ
    Aug. 1, 2014 12:37 p.m.

    @Johnny Triumph

    Wow, that's impressive. My annual starting salary out of college was over 12x what my college tuition was per year. Having been out of college for 5 years, I'm now making close to 18x my annual college tuition. Money well spent on education in my opinion.

  • Sports Are Great Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 1, 2014 12:29 p.m.

    Not surprisingly, BYU is by far the highest in the state, and top 10 in the nation.

    BYU's average wages per graduate 5 years after graduation is also the highest in the sate, in case there are those Utah "fans" who try and attribute these kinds of rankings to tithing subsidies. In this case - highest wages 5 years after graduation is simply that, as opposed to ROI or something like that which would factor in tithing subsidies.

    Besides, state schools also are heavily subsidized. BYU just does a better job than most places at using its resources. Again, this is not surprising as its a private entity as opposed to government-run one.

    Average high school GPA 3.79 - impressive. Again not surprising its the highest in the state.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Aug. 1, 2014 12:14 p.m.

    I'm earning annually more than 10x my total tuition costs for 4 years, I'd say that's fantastic value!