Swallow, Shurtleff make first court appearance as criminal defendants

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  • PatrickRC Salt Lake , UT
    July 31, 2014 3:10 p.m.

    To JWB. "Why would he wait until the court room to tell the truth?" Many reasons. One might be that the media - and many others - tend to distort the truth. I've noticed a savage attitude among many of the bloggers. Remember : Innocent until proven guilty.

  • EJM Herriman, UT
    July 31, 2014 9:18 a.m.

    @sharphooks: I agree with you. You can't complain about how the media is treating you poorly and at the same time bring your daughter into it and post pictures on Facebook and Instagram.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    July 30, 2014 9:14 p.m.

    Why would he await until the court room to tell the truth? Anything meant to deceive is not the truth. As an attorney and our public official, he had an obligation to tell the truth. His involvement with Mr. Swallow was his own choice. He didn't have to hire him for a campaign or definitely as his Chief Deputy. He didn't have to associate with Mr. Swallow after work hours. Politicians have to account to the people for their actions or lack of actions, especially "our" chief law enforcers in Utah as they claim many times. Mr. Shurtleff took all attorneys for the state under his wing. Mr. Swallow campaigned he had more power than the governor with the federal government. Power can be abused by top enforcers of the law.

    Truth is truth and only the facts change. These men have given many "facts" to the press in the past but their attorneys now want them to remain silent except for tweets or twitters, including from family members. It will be interesting to see how the FBI, who was involved with the arrests but didn't push criminal charges will play into this case.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    July 30, 2014 8:25 p.m.

    The remarks about being from a "good family, implies he should get a pass. The problem is the good family utah pass gets to be expected and then the justice system is just handing out the pass. Unfortunately, the passes can bring in money and benefits when justice is not the concern.

  • bgl Santa Monica, CA
    July 30, 2014 5:33 p.m.

    xert...I went to High School with Mark, and you must be thinking of another Mark Shurtleff. Sharphooks.

    Really? I attended Brighton High School, knew Mark and was good friends with his older brother. His dad served as our VP from (I think) 71 through at least 74 (when I graduated). Unless you are saying that I'm wrong about my assessment of their family being really good people. If so, I think you're wrong there. They were always kind and Mr. Shurtleff (their dad, I mean) treated everyone fairly and made you feel like he wanted you to succeed. That he was pulling for you. That meant a lot to a kid like myself, who was non-Mormon and struggled in many areas of high school. The sons were accepting of everyone, whether you shared the same beliefs or not. I'm a big D Democrat and there are many points on which Mark Shurtleff and I disagree, but these are good people and I will place good people above petty politics any time.

  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    July 30, 2014 5:08 p.m.

    Sorry, Mark . . . quoting Gandhi doesn't make you Gandhi.

  • fish8 Vernal, UT
    July 30, 2014 3:57 p.m.

    Why do these guys all feel the need to drag their wife and kids in front of the news media? Does haveing a family make you innocent?

  • snowman Provo, UT
    July 30, 2014 2:59 p.m.

    SIM Gill is trying to make a name for himself. The feds didn't prosecute them why should Utah

  • FWJ Junction City, KS
    July 30, 2014 2:12 p.m.

    Stevol123: Following the case from the beginning as reported by the media, with convenient leaks from the politically motivated, is so far from really understanding the facts and truth as to make any assertions as to prison time ridiculous.

    Shaprhooks: Your bias is clear, to suggest that Shurtleff's injuries are fake indicates how powerful and unfair conviction in the court of public opinion can be.

  • stevo123 slc, ut
    July 30, 2014 2:07 p.m.

    USA lover, If you go back you will find the select committee in the house investigated this, Sim Gill also had a Republican DA help out. It is time to let this play out in the courts, but, to blame Sim GIll is partisan at best.

  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    July 30, 2014 1:55 p.m.

    Leave Mark Shurleff alone. Was his decision making perfect? No. Was it criminal? NO WAY. They only thing as inappropriate at what Shurtleff did is what Sim Gill is doing. It's political...and it's damaging a family. Enough!!!

  • stevo123 slc, ut
    July 30, 2014 1:50 p.m.

    Patriot, I have followed the case since the beginning, I would be very surprised if there is no prison time

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    July 30, 2014 1:07 p.m.

    all I can say is let's see the evidence from both sides....

    If these charges against Shurtleff are indeed trivial and trumped up then the cost of this court room drama should NOT have to be paid by the Shurtleff family. If Shurtleff and Swallow did indeed take significant bribes and obstruct justice then a price (prison) must be paid...but I would be very surprised if this is the case.

  • Tators Logan, UT
    July 30, 2014 12:51 p.m.

    @ GaryO:

    Why would anyone (especially a liberal) from Virgina have any valid interest in the specific internal state affairs of Utah? Seems a bit strange.
    It's very doubtful that anyone around here follows the domestic happenings in Virginia even semi-close to the same extent that you do Utah.

  • mufasta American Fork, UT
    July 30, 2014 12:22 p.m.

    It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

  • Calif PETALUMA, CA
    July 30, 2014 11:49 a.m.

    Very interesting these two AGs, this must be the first of this kind of alleged criminals.

  • Brio Alpine, UT
    July 30, 2014 11:38 a.m.

    @ xert:

    Just because Shurtleff's dad was a great guy, doesn't necessarily mean he himself is. Sometimes the apple doesn't fall far from the tree... and sometimes it does.

    I agree with "let's roll". There has been amble opportunity for both Swallow and Shurtleff to tell and explain any evidence they have that would exonerate them and to have kept the charges from being filed in the first place. It would've been to their advantage to have done so.

    Like one of the attorney's said... these guys are considered innocent until proven guilty. But so far, what evidence that has come to light doesn't look for the defendants. At this point, (and it's only my opinion) one or both are hoping to get off on legal technicalities. Both are (or should be) well versed in the finer points of law technicalities. Knowing such things has been their jobs for quite a few years.

    Having followed these cases since their inceptions, I'm anxious to see if anything new actually does come to light during their trials. Right now, there's still reason to be skeptical.

  • SharpHooks Lake Sammamish, WA
    July 30, 2014 11:26 a.m.

    xert...I went to High School with Mark, and you must be thinking of another Mark Shurtleff.

  • let's roll LEHI, UT
    July 30, 2014 11:06 a.m.

    If, as Mr. Shurtleff suggests, the truth has yet to be told, he has no one to blame for that fact but himself. These allegations have been around for months, if not years. Mr. Shurtleff has had every opportunity to address them.

    While Mr. Shurtleff says he now will only tell his side of the story in court, the criminal charges were only recently filed. If he believes he has facts that exonarate him, why didn't he share them when the allegations first arose, and why not share them with the Legislature's bi-partisan investigation, or with the FBI?

  • xert Santa Monica, CA
    July 30, 2014 10:47 a.m.

    I've known the Shurtleff's since Jr. High School. Shurtleff's dad was my Vice Principal in high school. This is one of the most decent families I've ever known.

  • SharpHooks Sandy, UT
    July 30, 2014 10:07 a.m.

    Shurtleff keeps saying this is hard on his family, but parades his daughter out at every opportunity. Also says he doesn't want to have this tried in the media, but tweets away quite a bit....

  • SharpHooks Sandy, UT
    July 30, 2014 10:00 a.m.

    C'mon!...on the 18th they'll wheel Shurtleff into court in a hospital bed...IV's, respirator, leg in a cast and suspended, head all bandaged up.