LOU Montana and lost in DCYou both are
right. It is the fault of both Bush and Obama, of both the Democrats and the
Republicans. They (have) functioned in different ways, and for mostly different
reasons, but both have stood in opposition to enforcement of immigration law,
resulting in the disaster we now are in. Even today it is true. Obama is
brazenly flouting immigration law because he sees these illegal aliens and their
children (and future children) as future Democrat voters. But most Republican
politicians are sitting quietly and doing nothing to stop him. This is because
the greedy businessmen the Republican politicians are beholden to want them here
for their cheap labor.Screwdriver"Why do I never
hear anyone condemning the employers that break the law by hiring illegally,
avoiding taxes and advertising in Mexico for job applicants?"Because it is a cooperative effort between the businessmen and the illegal
aliens, who are not being kidnapped nor trafficked here against their will but
instead are choosing to come here illegally. Both parties are very much to
I say this - send ALL of these illegals to the liberal run states (New York,
California, Vermont, Connecticut, Delaware, etc..) and let them pay for ALL of
the housing - the welfare - the medical care - the education etc... with hiked
up taxes. Yes let the lib's in those states see their taxes get hiked up by
20% ...at least ...to pay for the continuous stream of illegals. Let the good
folks in these liberal states also pay for the out of control violent crime as
well. Yes the BIG mouths on the left would VERY quickly go silent after a couple
of years swallowing this onslaught. Watch and see. Liberals are all for handing
out freebees so long as someone else is paying the bills. No better cure than
@Frozen FractalsWhen they go to committee, the Senate version takes
precedent. The Senate bill triples our already record setting legal immigration,
doubles the work visas, cost the American taxpayer with higher taxes, increased
unemployment for ten years, and decreases wages. Our citizens are tired of
giving business welfare by subsidizing their labor costs. The Senate
bill is toxic, it has an out or exemption for every enforcement provision. Obama
would not enforce the new enforcement provisions anyway. It's a waste of
time until we get a leader that follows the law. The children are
coming here for amnesty. See the June 20 2014 edition of this paper for one of
@lost in DC"Why should the GOP house pass more legislation? harry
won’t allow a vote on it"The two chambers would pass
different versions and it'd go to conference committee.
@lost in DC"What is so cruel about reuniting children with their
families?"These families were in such apparently dire straights
as to choose something so desperate as to send children 1000 miles away. I
don't think that's a decision made lightly (it's not made cheaply
Dr. Thom, you're absolutely right on target . . . and let's not forget
the way Obama and Mexico (our "ally?") treat U. S. citizens who
inadvertently cross the border going the other direction. Is this just total
insanity, or what?
Patty-cake, patty-cake. And when anyone points out the extreme violations
perpetrated by the Obama administration, the liberals ALWAYS and IMMEDIATELY
respond by redirecting the subject to George W. Bush. I for one never held Bush
up as some great paradigm of either leadership nor conservatism, but I'm
afraid we went from the proverbial frying pan directly into the fire. The Obama
administration has partnered up with the government of Mexico to subvert and
hijack our immigration laws, and further enhance the ongoing invasion of this
homeland. Other liberals and the cheap-labor lobby have assisted in the effort,
but there's no excuse for the insanity we're seeing now, nor the
subsequent prevarication that attempts to justify it.
People have complained about the business owners. E-verify should be mandatory,
and pull their business license on the third offense. It was part of the 1986
reform that was never enforced.
Why do I never hear anyone condemning the employers that break the law by hiring
illegaly, avoiding taxes and advertising in Mexico for job applicants?
Just returned from El Paso on an Army contract and here is the solution: 1)
after illegally crossing the border, everyone is held at a central location (Ft.
Bliss or Ft. Hood), then flown to Mexico City on a commercial flight, let off
the plane and the plane comes home empty. No passport, no visa, no entry. If
discovered a second time (since we have photographed and finger printed them
previously), they are then flown to a Central American country to be named
later. Every time they show up at the border, they get flown further and further
south until they finally are dropped off in Antarctica. Trust me, the word will
get around VERY fast that this is not the way to legally immigrate to the United
States.And we charge Mexico for all expenses since they are the one
who have let this illegal trafficking and travel happen in their country and we
do this my eliminating any foreign aid to Mexico until all expenses are paid
Bush's Wilberforce bill was written to stop human trafficking. Like other
laws, Obama has chosen to play the dictator and use the law for his own
political parties gain. His deferred action (DACA) has caused this.
Biden went to Central America middle of June to tell them it did not apply to
new arrivals. The number of children coming here has increased from 6,000 to
90,000 since his "amnesty"Proof that amnesty is not the
answer to illegal immigration. Only enforcement will force people to obey the
laws of the land.
So quick to judge Obama, George Bush wrote the bill that allows these children a
trial.. Mr. Obama is enforcing the law as it is written. More to
the point, these children are native Americans. The border is one of white
man's engineering, we Natives have never had a need for it. The danger
these children flee from are born from this nation, the nation that craves the
drugs. If this nation had a handle on the enormous drug abuse things might be
better for the entire world.As I see it, the biggest problem these
children face in this nation, is racism. You may say you're not.. but your
actions and words are what is the truth. And you call yourself a follower of
Christ? We welcomed and fed your people when they fled over and over
from Europe. You should respect and treat native peoples from this land in that
@Worf: You're from the Rio Grande Valley ostensibly, but neglect to mention
any of the valiant work of humanitarian aid from Sacred Heart & St.
John's churches in McAllen, for example. In what is obviously a serious
humanitarian and refugee situation (RAICES legal aid in San Antonio has
processed over 1,000 asylum requests recently) your focus is solely to make an
unsupported political claim. At least it's not re: Benghazi.
We need comprehensive immigration reform, that is, reform of our battered
1965-model immigration system. The current Congress is unable to pass anything
of significance, not even for highways, let alone refugees. Piece-meal bills
like Rep. Jason Chaffetz's recent "Asylum Act" are akin to
replacing four bald tires with one new one (that veers to the right). Let's
see some real profiles in courage in Washington. Work with the president to pass
comprehensive immigration reform.
What is so cruel about reuniting children with their families?What
is cruel about honoring the law?FT,Why should the GOP house
pass more legislation? harry won’t allow a vote on it and BO would not
faithfully execute it if harry DID miraculously allow a vote. BO is not now
enforcing the law. Why pass ANOTHER more he will ignore?Dems using
these children for political gain is the lowest form of child abuse and
crueltyLOU MontanaHAHAHAHA! What a funny piece of fiction!
BO’s attitude of amnesty is drawing them here.Stop blaming the
GOP and clean up BO’s mess.
@FT:"The first thing that is needed is debate and passage of
legislation."We already have legislation. Why would anyone
think that more legislation would stop illegal immigration. The way to stop
illegal immigration is to... stop illegal immigration. Stop it at the border.
Turn illegals back. And if they persist, a few shots fired in the air might
dissuade them.Further, we need to get the people out of office who
refuse to enforce our immigration laws. And who would that be? Try Barack
Hussein Obama. He is head of the Executive Branch of government. And it tells
him, in the US Constitution to 'take car that the laws are faithfully
executed.' He is not doing that. He needs to be removed. I think
it's called impeachment.
I love this shift in consciousness, during the Bush years Republicans had open
arms for illegal immigrants and Liberals were viewed as the tyrants who wanted
to send them back. Bush offered illegals the Fast Track to Citizenship as a tool
to gain votes from the Hispanic community. This created the mass flood of
illegals during the G.W. Bush years. When the country became flooded with
illegals it was Bush who went on TV and said "I don't understand what
the problem is? They (illegal immigrants) are just doing jobs Americans
don't want." The William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection
Reauthorization Act of 2008 was G. W. Bush's last humanitarian bill as he
was leaving office. This too was indorsed by Republicans. Republicans had all this love and money to support illegal aliens. They
employed them and bragged about what good workers they are and how little they
asked in return. Now all this has changed? People in Utah went nuts hiring these
people and now they have changed their minds? I am glad they finally have awaken
to realize the mess they have created! Now, stop blaming Obama and
help clean up YOUR mess!
Immigrants are coming because of corrupt government in their home country.Unfortunately, they development a corrupt government once here.
If the children are treated so poor, why do we keep passing amnesty (or in
Obama's case waivers) and encouraging more to come here illegally.
If you want to increase bad behavior all that you have to do is reward it. The
Obama Administration's prosecutorial discretion policies and the DACA
amnesty for illegal children brought to the U.S. by illegal parents has
convinced those in Central America that they will be legalized when they arrive,
which has turned out to be true.How many immigrants legal or
otherwise should be accepted each year? One million, ten million twenty million,
more? as long as jobs and benefits are better here than where they came from
the border will be impossible to enforce. The best and most efficient place to
help these people is in their own country, because it takes a lot more resources
here to provide for them. Not everyone living a substandard life can come to
America, a limit has to be set. The number of poor South of the
border that are just as poor as those presently arriving is probably nearly a
half a billion.
I would like find out how to "foster" some of these kids until this mess
gets sorted out, or until their hearings come up, or something! I believe there
are enough us who are willing and able to take these kids in temporarily to stop
the warehousing. Ideas anyone, on who to contact about this?
It should be noted that the Wilberforce bill is being misapplied by the Obama
administration for political purposes. Human trafficking is NOT the same thing
as human smuggling. I have zero respect for politicians who use children as
pawns to advance their agenda.The children should be flown back to their
home country and put in the custody of their respective governments.Let's stop encouraging people to send their children here in hopes of
It's not Democrat nor is it Republican, both share the blame. However this
border surge is all on Obama, his waivers, and not enforcing our current laws.
It's a waste of time passing new laws, when the old ones are
not enforced. The Republican house has passed more immigration laws
this year, than the Democrats. Most are of the enforcement variety. Senator
Harry Reid never allowed them on the Senate floor. Obama needs to
stop blaming the Republicans for everything he does wrong.
Children are enduring horrific risk, brutal abuse, and finally rejection for
their own good. I don't think there's more than one side of cruelty.
The first thing that is needed is debate and passage of legislation. Any
objective person reading the news knows the GOP refuses to do that for political
reasons. We elect people to address our problems, and pass legislation, not be
career politicans. Yes there is blame all around but we'll solve nothing
until the issue is debated and legislation crafted to address the issue. Stop playing the Benghazi claim and other political shananigans congressman,
and force your party to address the crisis at our border and pass legislation.
We want leadership, not loitering on the public dime.
If I break the law, I expect to pay for it, according to the laws of the land.
So treating others, like I would expect to be treated, would be my expectation.
Treating my neighbor as I am treated would mean enforcing the laws. That is true
love of all mankind. The children are a diversion. In a report by
ICE, they state that two out of three children are coming here with parents or a
guardian, or being reunited with family. With 400,000 being checked at the
border, how many were not seen or counted?