Dan Liljenquist: There is a silver lining to Shurtleff and Swallow arrests

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  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    July 17, 2014 8:53 p.m.

    Patriot -

    " Lap dog media in America has helped create and cover for Fast N Furious+Benghazi+IRS scandals"

    Wrong on all counts. First, the mainstream media is not "lap dog media."

    It's been around for much longer than FOX "NEWS," which was created in 1996 as a propaganda outlet that only masquerades as a news outlet.

    And it was not the mainstream media who created " Fast N Furious+Benghazi+IRS scandals" Those fake "scandals" were purely a creation of the Great Right Wing Hive Mind, and then disseminated by the likes of FOX "NEWS," and Right Wing Radio . . . And then endlessly discussed by Koch Brothers employees in Congress.

  • SharpHooks Sandy, UT
    July 17, 2014 3:47 p.m.

    Don't stop now. I doubt these two were in a bubble. There had to be others to ferret out.
    And Mr. Gill said the investigation is "ongoing".
    He got enough on the table to start the proceedings, but I'll bet he has lots more.
    Whether it's other parties, or more charges against the two, we haven't heard the end of the charges.
    Good thing. Perhaps a real shocker yet to be revealed.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    July 17, 2014 12:39 p.m.

    Thomas Jefferson once wrote, “Where the press is free and every man is able to read, all is safe.”

    So....what happens when the press is all propogangda and works for the administration...as is the case with CNN+NBC+MSNBC+CBS+NY TIMES....

    When the watch dog becomes the lap dog then watch out!!! Lap dog media in America has helped create and cover for Fast N Furious+Benghazi+IRS scandals. I am convinced that had America still had the kind of media it did during Watergate then we would have an Attorney General in prison and a President resigned. The loser - the American people.

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    July 17, 2014 12:27 p.m.

    I agree with Lillenquist about the press, City Weekly and the Salt Lake Tribune did a solid job staying engaged in this story.

  • Sandy Salt Lake City, UT
    July 17, 2014 11:25 a.m.

    Irony guy forgets that the Democratic candidate for AG, whose name I can't even remember even though I voted for him, hardly staged campaign in 2012! Though I was a registered republican at the time, something about Swallow stank--I know other Republicans who also smelled it, and we went looking for an alternative. The Democrat seemed like a good choice for an AG, though a poor choice of a candidate, for he seemed entirely unwilling to put up a fight.

    The Dems have not only Republicans but themselves to blame for not mounting a good campaign. Swallow was entirely beatable. Many of us saw he would be trouble.

  • J in AZ San Tan Valley, AZ
    July 17, 2014 11:16 a.m.

    At some point, a judicial determination will be reached on the charges against these men, there should still be a critical review of the motivations of Mr. Gill and Mr. Rawlings in pursuing these investigations and charges. Arizona recently had the experience of having a Republican prosecutor use the legal system in an attempt to neutralize his political enemies of any and all parties. This prosecutor brought felony charges against prominent Republican and Democratic politicians in the area that opposed him. He was a talented attorney and wrote very convincing probable cause statements that swayed grand juries to sign off on his accusations and bring charges.

    Of course when the whole mess came before judges and courts, the house of cards fell apart on that prosecutor and he and his chief assistant were disbarred at the end of the day. For an ambitious politician, disbarment is not a hindrance to seeking higher office. Verify the ambitions of these prosecutors; do they want to be the Attorney General of Utah or even the governor? If this promotes their ambitions, take a very critical view of this. If not, still tread carefully because politicians on their way out can still seek revenge.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    July 17, 2014 10:10 a.m.

    " . . . leaders of our public institutions, particularly our law enforcement apparatus, must be beyond reproach."

    Well, they must be beyond reproach if we expect true and perfect justice. But how many Americans actually expect that?

    Does anyone really expect the justice system to be beyond reproach? . . . even if you prosecute a couple of corrupt AG’s? Sure, you can cut off the head of a snake, but the rest of the snake is still a snake.

    It's naive to believe that Shurtleff and Swallow are the only ones who ever committed crimes in the Attorney General's office.

    There are still umpteen Assistant Attorneys General, and I'll bet you wouldn't have to look very far to uncover crimes committed by at least some of them during their careers in the Criminal so-called justice system . . Perjury, for example.

    Ideally, members of law enforcement, should be beyond reproach. But they are not. In fact, some of them are major repeat offenders.

    Unprincipled, power-tripping prosecutors are not compelled to obey the law, and they can and sometimes do willfully and knowingly abuse their power in their zeal to prosecute and persecute.

    Look up the Innocence Project.

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    July 17, 2014 10:06 a.m.

    Re: "What do you say about the unthinking unitary partisanship in Utah?"

    You mean, of course, the unthinking, unitary partisanship that Utah Democrats have forged with the DNC.

    The main obstacle to political power-sharing in Utah is Democrat fealty to a national organization that has gone way, way off the tracks.

    If we ever expect to be successful, Utah Democrats must be Utah Democrats. Not disingenuous, disconnected, dystopian Pelosi/Reid clones.

  • John Harrison Sandy, UT
    July 17, 2014 9:52 a.m.

    I agree that the press has played a huge role here. That said, does anyone else find it ironic that the praise of the press is appearing in this particular paper, which didn't exactly lead the way on this story?

  • Kings Court Alpine, UT
    July 17, 2014 8:43 a.m.

    Until the legislature passes some real legislation that eliminates these sketchy conflict of interest instruments, we can look at this as yet another chapter in a very long epic saga. Pass campaign finance reform now, Utah legislature!

  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    July 17, 2014 8:38 a.m.

    Just goes to show that every black eye has a silver lining.

    But beyond the mixed metaphors, Dan, how about the obvious fact that a sleazy Republican politician was elected AG in 2012 over a highly qualified, successful prosecutor just because he was a Democrat? What do you say about the unthinking unitary partisanship in Utah? What about the obvious abuses of power it leads to?

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    July 17, 2014 8:20 a.m.

    They are completely innocent. I just know it.

  • stevo123 slc, ut
    July 17, 2014 7:58 a.m.

    I agree 100% with Mr. Liljenquist. The fact that we are getting to the bottom of this is a huge plus for the state. Let the investigations continue.