"IF" they are guilty, they deserve a long prison sentence.
There is an adage that that should be followed in politics or business , "
it's not only got to be right, it's got to look right."
Shurtleff's and Swallow's actions certainly do not look right.
It is amazing the governor is so concerned about this but does't relate
his actions on the I-core freeway project and contribution funds to his
campaign with similar motivations.When you sit high and are in a
fish bowl, you have to be careful. The majority of citizens don't do their
civic duty to vote or even know what our elected officials are doing. The
federal government is so bogged down with their own problems and politicians
and bureaucrats swinging their weight that very few care. We are a nation who
is filled with so much information we have tuned out the important and soul
searching processes. We allow our elected officials to skew the system. Mr. Shurtleff and Swallow didn't listen to their own employees in
the AG's as Mr. Shurtleff was preparing to get Mr. Swallow elected, come
hook or crook. They appear to be like the former Governor of Illinois that kept
on saying he was innocent to the end. The Davis County DA is Republican. The
House is and still came to a similar conclusion that something was rotten in
Denmark. Truth is truth. Only the facts change.
The Attorney General should be appointed by the party not in the governorship.
That will keep everybody honest, you think?
who was swallow's replacement as attorney general?...they all answer to and
advise governor herbert,right?...time to resign...mr herbert!
The prosecutor did not object to the judge waiving bail. The only reason you
would want to put an accused person behind bars while they await trial is if you
believe they will cause harm to themselves or others, or if you think they will
flee the jurisdiction. Since neither scenario seems likely, waiving bail is
appropriate. Didn't any of you ever watch Law and Order?
"criminal behavior never before seen in the state's rather tame
political scene" If you think they are the only crooked politicians in Utah
then you had better go back to reading your religious texts.
Interesting to me is how the two papers headlined this story with photos. The
Tribune had mug shots. The Deseret News had a very sympathy-inducing photo of
Shurtleff being hugged by his daughter while holding crutches.
DOJ did NOT "clear" them. It dropped the investigation, but did not
LDS can vote how they want. We are not told how to vote.
Lolly -"Confronting an innocent teenager with drawn pistol
can't be called anything but abuse"And who, other than the
Shurtleffs, makes that claim?I could be wrong, but I kind of doubt
his daughter was confronted and threatened by anyone with a drawn pistol.That story was initiated by Shurtleff, and what is his word worth?And yes, absolutely there was police abuse . . . a definite abuse of
power. What else can you call it when Utah's top cops actively solicit
"Court documents describe a five-year trail of criminal behavior never
before seen in the state's rather tame political scene."Never before seen or never before uncovered?
Wondering if Shurtliff's and Swallow's passports were confiscated by
authorities?Recall reading in the DN that Swallow had a bag of $ 10,000
cash in his home when authorities searched it.Strange "no bail"
situation.How many others arrested, receive such special treatment?How come these two rate?
I find it amazing that the DOJ cleared these two. With this many charges called
minimal, leaves me to believe corruption exists within the DOJ. If this is
indeed true, this damages the trust in the system. Most certainly reinforcing my
distrust that exists in the system. Two sets of rules. Theirs and ours.
$250,000 bail not paid as per article, "Bail was set at $250,000 each, but
a judge ordered their releases on the condition they promise to appear in
court." Anyone else would have remained in jail until they could post.
pretty sure it didn't land on them... they stepped right into it
@Built2LastI can't imagine a Republican--especially
HERE---accusing any democrat of "politically motivated" activity. That's ALL the republicans here do.Washington has nothing to do wit
I love the narrative that somehow this is politically motivated. Meanwhile, the
Davis County DA, the head of the SBI, the Speaker of the House, and the head of
the House investigative committee are all Republicans. But somehow this is Sim
Gill being political? How dare you. Sim Gill is an honorable man, and
Shurtleff/Swallow are quite obviously corrupt.
There is ZERO religious or political leverage at play here. Criminals are
criminals---and felony warrants are not issued on a rumor or whim. These are not
mild charges---they have been researched and dealt with according to law that
applies to you and me.Being employed in law does not put you above the
law.Sure they proclaim their innocence. But that is not for us to decide.
1Observer - "I find it laughable that some commenters claim that you should
vote Democrat, non-Mormon or whatever."I couldn't agree
with you more. We are talking about allegations of wrong doing at this point,
and people are already dancing around on their graves singing hallelujah. If
they are found guilty of the things they are charged with, they deserve to face
the consequences.What I can't believe is that any Democrat
could, with a straight face, lecture the Republicans about corruption within the
party with the current level of corruption we see in news stories on a daily
basis coming out of Washington, D.C. and all over the country. I suggest you
focus your efforts on cleaning up your own party before you try to convert your
Republican friends to a "better way."
One party dominance, whether it be Democrat or Republican, is never a good
thing. Politicians begin to think they are insulated and above the law and that
the dominant party apparatus will protect them...
We should let the Justice system as broken as it is play out.As I close my
eyes and recall the symbol of Justice a Statue of a very proud woman,
blindfolded, and holding a scale to weigh the evidence presented before the
court the scale of justice will move to guilty or not guilty, so it should be,
anything less is unacceptable no matter of your political affiliation.
Politics is the central theme of this whole affair. Sim Gill the Democrat
Parties most visible Utah point man for both Holder and Obama is going to be
accused of playing politics. Choreographing the excessive force in searching
Swallow and Shurtleffs homes and then having them arrested at their homes makes
compelling theatre. It also raises questions of motive.My opinion is that there
is clearly problems in the system. Utah law needs to be tightened up.It looks
like it is going to be a long and bumpy ride.
If Swallow had been appointed, he would have been fired but nothing else would
have happened.Neither Shurtleff nor Swallow would have been prosecuted for
their alleged criminal acts. And if we ever have a corrupt Governor, or any
other corrupt prominent politician, it's unlikely an appointed AG would
ever act. Ditto for politically connected white collar criminals. The solution
is not to make the attorney general a political plum to be awarded to a loyal
member of the political network.
The Grandmother Rule, "If your grandmother knew what you were doing, would
she approve?" If the answer is no then you shouldn't be doing it.Don't accept favors from people you are investigating. Even if
there is no quid pro quo. It looks rotten.
Good comprehensive article by the D-New. It's nice to see that journalism
is not dead at the D-News.
Just a note. Any connection between this case and Harry Reid were cleared a
long time ago. Investigators found no evidence any connection existed.
Hey Patriot -" It is hard to know who is guilty or innocent and
who is telling the truth when politics is involved."When is
politics NOT involved in criminal cases?If individuals from the
wrong side of the tracks violate a law, the repercussions for them will ALWAYS
be considerably worse than for someone in the right social class.Money talks in Utah's Criminal Justice System, and so does social status,
having the right friends, and belonging to the right religion. Not only does
it talk, but it's very persuasive.And that's not just true
in Utah. I'm surprised these two were even charged, given the
fact that their peers, friends, and colleagues in Utah's Criminal
so-called justice system are the ones doing the charging.
These kinds of charges are typically things you see in other states. It is
tragic that two people entrusted by the citizens to uphold the law seemed to
have such disregard for that law. I find it laughable that some commenters
claim that you should vote Democrat, non-Mormon or whatever. Unfortunately,
corruption knows no political or religious bounds. Take a look at California,
New York, Alabama, Louisiana or nearly any other state and you will find
politicians of all stripes involved in criminal or unethical activity.
Fortunately, my experience is that most of the people elected to political
offices are good people trying to do the right thing. But there are scoundrels
and that is who we hear about in the news, not the 80% who are trying to do the
right things in the right ways. If we want good people in office, we need to
encourage good people to run and we need to carefully examine candidates and
vote for them on their merits and not on their political party or religious
Let's not reject such allegations with a "it couldn't happen in
Utah" attitude. Corruption in Utah government dates back at least to the
early seventies - the days of Democratic governor Calvin Rampton - when left
turn lanes on State Street were sold left and right.
@marxist-I don't believe that dishonesty is specific to any single
political party. I'm sure there is a pattern of corruption in many parts of
Utah politics and national politics but I would challenge you to prove that it
is party specific in any way. The fact they were raising the money to bribe
Harry Reid (DEM) says a lot too. One might jump to the conclusion that he can be
bought as well. I would hope if the feds had any evidence on him they would
pursue it as well. I do not agree with the judge waving the $250,000 in bail.
These gentlemen were charged with enforcing the law and in turn broke the law
and should have to go through the same problems normal people go through when
they get into the system. I will definitely be voting this judge out at the next
I find it interesting that local officials are out of shape over the FBI
bringing charges. It makes sense if locals are all of the same party and mind
set. Let truth shine its light of investigation and evidence on the scene.
This case has sure cost a lot of money to gather evidence. The thing that still
haunts my wife and I is the raid on the Shurtleff home when law enforcement knew
that Mark was not home. Confronting an innocent teenager with drawn pistol
can't be called anything but abuse. We shall see how this all turns out
but as the Governor said yesterday, it is a huge negative on the state of
marxistSalt Lake City, UT -I recall seeing Harry Reid's
(democrat) name in the story, will be interesting to see where that leads. The
very nature of politicians regardless of party is unethical! That has to change!
These jobs were never intended to be career positons but a call to civil
Politically motivated? The House of Representatives of our State had enough for
Mr. Swallow to resign as AG. That as a lot of Republicans involved in
that process. Mr. Swallow was Mr. Shurtleff's chief deputy and chief
adviser. Mr. Shurtleff should have been seeing the actions that he was doing as
"little by little" going in the wrong direction for the AG's
office. There were plenty of their staff that noticed the trend. Mr. Reyes
wants not to have a black hole over his office but when the past 4 years or more
happened, it is a good day to see action taken by the House and DA's of two
Utah counties and the Department of Public Safety involved in the cleanup of
alleged violations. Mr. Shurtleff had plenty of time to do the right thing in
his prior office after some of the alleged violations surfaced in 2012 against
candidate Swallow. He stuck with Swallow by officially pushing him to get
elected the last week prior to the election. He said awhile back that he now
wishes "John" hadn't done some things. Their camps are now divided
and Rome fell. Pride still is there.
Evidence that this is indeed a witch hunt for political purposes: Gill refers to
the charges as "minimal", yet insisted upon both the S.W.A.T. style
service of a simple search warrant, (bordering on police brutality) and upon
arresting them at their homes, as if the charges were much more serious,for
example gun running. The only legitimate reason for such tactics are political,
nothing in the charges warranted such excessive use of the enforcement branch.
Such antics make for some great theater but they are still Cromwellian (Man For
All Seasons) and indicative of motive.
I worked for Client #9 in NY and we all saw how that went. My view of this is
that politics corrputs and the more power that office holders have the more
likely they are to commit criminal acts.
I find it telling that the political corruption story in Utah of the 21st
century has generated only two comments, neither of which express outrage that
the chief law enforcement officers of this state are charged with numerous
counts of breaking Utah law and ethics violations. By the way, the charges
could end up resulting in sentences of up to 30 years, not 15.
Does anybody besides me see the humor in calling Utah "the best managed
state" in the midst of this mess? Makes you wonder just how much filth
there is, doesn't it? Nothing is going to change until Utahns
(especially LDS Utahns) decide that they will not face damnation if they vote
for non-Republicans. Don't want to vote for a Democrat? There are other
I can't imagine facing 15 years in prison at their age and stage of life
when they should be enjoying grandchildren and retirement. It is hard to know
who is guilty or innocent and who is telling the truth when politics is
involved. Where there is smoke there is at least some fire so I suspect these
men will most likely be facing some sort of behind bar time.
I believe in the legal system. In the meantime, all those who live in glass
houses should not throw stones!
I'm more than willing to give Mr. Shurtliff and Mr. Swallow the presumption
of innocence until the legal process concludes.By the same token,
Mr. Shurtliff shouldn't expect me, or anyone else, to give any credence to
his attempts to ascribe any political or untoward motivation to the charges
until the legal process concludes.