Kent C. Deforrest: what is your solution to supply-side-economics? If it is
redistribution of wealth, how will you do it when all of the people realize that
the government will provide for their every need even if they don't work?
Who will provide all the goods and services that society will give to all the
needy when those who work realize that there is no benefit, or should I say
reward, to them for their work? One of the other posters mentioned that Reagan
wasn't such a good president and what it was that brought down the wall was
technology and the Russians access to what the west produced that showed there
was a better life. Wouldn't that have fallen under the mantel of
Best or worst... seems to be 100% subjective. And based on the brand of
partisan coolaid you drink.Some insist Reagan was the worst. Others
insist Obama was the worst. Neither having anything Objective to base their
assertions on.It would be nice if there were a more OBJECTIVE way of
determining if a President did a good job or not (other than popularity polls).
If popularity polls are an indicator... Reagan is the best PresidentGoogle "United States presidential approval rating - Wikipedia"...Obviously Obama's approval ratings are NOT near the top. They are
actually very low (the lowest average approval rating since Carter).But approval ratings are so SUBJECTIVE (and influenced by media hype and
partisan blinders). If they are to be trusted... Bush had the highest approval
rating of all Presidents on the list 90% (Sept 21 2001). Obama's highest
so far is 69% (January 21 2009). Not even close. But popularity polls are so
It is pretty obvious now that to the left Obama will always be a great
President. No matter what he does, or doesn't do, it won't matter.
After all, he got the Nobel Peace Prize, didn't he? That in and of itself
says it all about Obama. He is a great peacemaking President only because his
followers want him to be. His actions and results have nothing to do with the
truth in their eyes. They have already anointed Obama the Great with the same
evidence as the Nobel committee had for Obama before he even became President.
Amazing to watch adult human beings being so deluded about an icon. And some of
them claim we believers in Christ are the deluded ones. Why don't you guys
just start a church worshiping Obama as your savior. You've pretty much
done that anyway, in spite of all the evidence to the contrary.
I would actually see Reagan and Romney somewhat similar on the political
spectrum. But Reagan and say Rand Paul and Rick Santorum are not exactly in the
same place politically.To be fair, most people are not critical of
the President because of race, but let's face it, some are. Or maybe
it's more likely, the President didn't have a chance with some because
Kent C. DeForrest "What's so odd is that
although Republicans still worship St. Ronnie, if he were to run for office
today, he would be run out of town by the tea party, er, I mean GOP" That is clearly not true - it is, however, a great example of left wing
hysteria; similar to claiming Obama criticism is motivated by race, rather than
character and policies. It is a lie designed to justify left wing prejudice.
(A modern Reagan would fare just fine) I suspect the only reason
history may be kind to Obama is because academia is left-wing biased, yet in the
age of the Internet, where truth has a way of getting out regardless, perhaps
Obama will fare worse in having his blatant failures glossed over by history.
Hugh1:I have to give you credit for looking at the bright side of
things, not sure I'm there.
Can't resist. Best president, Kennedy. Most of the 60s adoration was hype,
but the more firsthand accounts I read of the Cuban Missile Crisis, this guy is
poised for sainthood. In defiance of his militarily advisers, much of his staff,
he and his brother cut a backroom deal with the Russians to remove Thor missiles
from Turkey in return for nuclear missiles from Cuba. We were about one minute
to midnight and nuclear conflagration. Amazing, his judgment probably saved
millions. The next two tied, Reagan and Johnson; each was flawed in the area of
the other's strengths. Regan doomed the Soviet empire with his defense
policies, yet his domestic policies lagged. Johnson was a visionary and
transformational president on civil rights, but his foreign policy was defined
by Vietnam. Both were great presidents. Truman, right man, right time - solid
(ended WWII). Eisenhower, oversaw post-war economic development that was
stunningly successful - solid (identified dangers of military industrial
complex.) Bush 41 & Clinton, both sound. Carter, moral at least. Nixon was
seriously flawed in his moral judgment, overwhelming a sound foreign policy
record - too bad. Bush 43 & Obama, time will tell. We've had a pretty
good run overall.
I want to add just two words: Iran. Contra. Why does the adulation
of Ronald Reagan never include the most despicable act ever by a US President?
@65TossPowerTrap,Re: "Talk about impeachable offenses"...Problem is... Nobody was talking about impeachable offenses in this thread...
just you.I didn't read ALL of the posts, but I didn't see
ANY claiming Obama committed impeachable offenses. So why go there?
My first political memory is of the Kennedy funeral. I don't remember
what kind of President he was, but I will never forget how moved the country
was, so he must have been good (I was 5).=========I
don't know if Reagan was a great President... but there's no doubt
Reagan helped create a safer, freer world, and he took an America suffering from
'malaise'... and made its citizens believe again in their destiny. (I
know, some will give him zero credit for that. It was all either Thatcher,
Kissinger, or Gorbachev, but Reagan just slept on the couch during the whole
time and took credit for what THEY did).==========The
one thing I know for sure... Some people who defend Obama a lot (you know who
you are) will think Obama was the BEST President ever... no matter what
historians say, or what public opinion polls of the American people say. They
know everything...Maybe after time has passed... the rest of America
will join them in their rose-colored-glasses view of the Obama Presidency.I don't think he's as terrible as some people think... but the
best ever? No way.
re:marxistObamacare a net plus? Interesting math you are using. My
math says the original projection by Barack was 800 billion and it now is
approaching 3 trillion - I think that's a net negative by a couple
trillion. Also no new wars. I guess by that measure then FDR would be a BAD
president ...correct? Cutting and running away leaving Iraq and Afghanastan in
ruins and in the hands of new terrorists more dangerous than the previous is not
something to add to your resume as a president. There is a way to exit a war and
doing a Viet Nam style dump the helicopeters in the ocean and run away is NOT an
exit ...it is abandonment and that is EXACTLY what Barack has done. Finally
Barack took a bad economy ....and made it MUCH worse!!!! Our GDP has declined -
our credit rating has been degraded - our unemployment has stayed high - food
stamps and welfare are at all time high - black unemployment is at record high
and China is set to pass the US for the first time in history this year as the
worlds top economy. Barack Obama - by the numbers - is the WORST ever.
RE: JSB Your list of presidents in your lifetime matches mine, but with a few
modifications:Roosevelt—Saved American capitalism - for good
and ill.Eisenhower—Nuclear tests in Nevada that sickened and
killed thousands of citizens. But the interstate was a great idea. Kennedy—committed troops to Viet Nam. Playboy president.Johnson—Vietnam, but gave us Medicare (thank God). Nixon—Watergate, nearly destroyed the U.S. Constitution.Ford—Pardoned Nixon, not much else to say.Carter—For
good or ill began deregulation wave, continued by Reagan.Reagan—“Tear down this wall;” began the great stall in U.S.
wages.Bush I—Knew how to get out of a war. Not much vision.Clinton—handled Balkan crisis WITHOUT U.S. casualties, retired a
lot of federal debt, but did not arrest the decay in the middle class.Bush II—Inept. Iraq quagmire. Economic disaster. Obama—No new wars, but questionable drone use. Obamacare - a net plus.
Dealt with worst economic crisis since the Great Depression.I am not
as obsessed their respective sex lives as you.
Just curious - which president authorized the sale of weapons to Iran - in
violation of federal law - to win the release of hostages and to fund Nicaraguan
rebels? Was that Reagan or Obama? Talk about impeachable offenses.
My 401K loves Obama.
What's so odd is that although Republicans still worship St. Ronnie, if he
were to run for office today, he would be run out of town by the tea party, er,
I mean GOP.
When I posted: "FALSE. Rode the coat tails of a Polish Pope and thousands of
very courageous Polish and Hungarian labor union members."I
omitted an important additional fact. I should have included, " . . . while
trying to destroy American labor unions."
"Reagan—“Tear down this wall;” wouldn’t buckle to
Russian pressure. Probably best president in my life time. "FALSE. Rode the coat tails of a Polish Pope and thousands of very courageous
Polish and Hungarian labor union members.A much more accurate
description would be: "Reagan -- Increasingly senile B-movie actor who knew
how to sway an audience and was clever enough to latch on and take credit for
efforts of others."
It is truly a sad measure of were the state of our politics are when bob benetts
article is far more moderate then any of the comments that follow it. I remember
a time when benett was considered very conservative. The worst part is I
don't think he is the one that has changed.
"I think Obama will be remembered as a great president."If
so, it will be because Big Brother will be watching you. Beware thoughtcrime.
there is no such thing as a perfect president - all preidents have flaws but I
think a good president would at least have the following measureables.1. The unemployment rate is around 5-6% AND there is a very noticable trend of
hiring high pay jobs in the country that continues to grow. Take a look at the
job boards ...that will tell you alot. Having lots of low pay part time openings
is NOT a positive sign - quite the opposite. 2. The president is seen as a
beliebable and respected leader both domestically and internationally. I would
look to Reagan as an example. 3. People in the country are reasonably
united and proud of their country.4. People feel reasonably good about the
direction of the country. 5. There is an obvious notion of patriotism in
the country and at least a basic trust in government. Obviously
Obama scores a solid F on every one of the above five items.... Check the
@ EsquireWay to stay un-biased. lol@ Irony Guy"I think Obama will be remembered as a great president."I
think so too. It isn't his fault that the general populous voted him in
when he had little to none leadership experience.He is just doing
the job with the amount of leadership experience he had and what he's
gained since he has been on the job.@ 10CCWashington was
known for being aloof as well. I think it might be one of the lesser known
characteristics needed of a great leader.Let others fight it out and
then when a decision needs to be made take the reins and make it.
Hey JSB -"Reagan—“Tear down this wall;”
wouldn’t buckle to Russian pressure. Probably best president in my life
time. "WRONG. Reagan was this nation's very WORST
president, at least since Warren Harding."Tear down this
wall?" Do you actually think Reagan came up with that? He didn't. He
was primarily and actor, who PRETENDED to be Presidential. His Plutocratic
Handlers gave this Alzheimer's-ridden President lines to recite, and he
obediently recited them. He was good at it.It's quite telling,
don't you think? . . . That the the best president in history, according to
"Conservatives," couldn't remember to put his pants on in the
morning.Reagan was in actually a HORRIBLE president. He set this
nation back, and we have never recovered.He set the Precedent for
deficit spending by TRIPLING the debt.And his policies were moronic.
Only through blind luck did the economy rebound during his Presidency, thanks
to the fact that the price of world oil dropped to less than 1/3 of what it had
been during the Carter administration.
Shane333: You spoke my mind exactly. Thank you!And, no one president
has divided this country politically, economically, and culturally as Obama!We need to turn to God and pray for the Constitution and America!
Owen: Then why are there statues of Ronald Reagan in Warsaw, Budapest,
Bucharest, and Prague? I have seen all four of them. He is a genuine hero to
the people of these former Soviet satellites.In addition, I was in Poland
this past April. Obama has very little respect among Polish citizens, and
because of his lies, he is greatly distrusted.
The ongoing coronation of King Obama on the comment boards.
The ongoing coronation of St. Ronnie.
No one outside of Reagan cheerleaders believes he had anything to do with walls
coming down or the collapse of the Soviet Union. Read a history book from any
western European (friendly) nation. We inflate our role. Reagan isn't even
mentioned. The fact that technology allowed people behind walls to see that
their leaders were lying to them about the other side of the wall brought the
It is hard to defend Obama because he has no experience to prepare him for the
job and his only way of solving problems is deliver speech and demonize those
that He suppose to with with.
"The American people know nothing about history..." when they disagree
with your personal opinion.
Shane333,Please turn off Faux News and conservative talk radio.
It's obviously affecting your perception of reality.
I suspect that 20 to 30 years down the road, when the ongoing Republican tantrum
is largely forgotten, history will be kind to Obama. That he was able to push
health-care reform through despite an opposition party sworn to destroy him, and
that his policies helped stabilize an economy in free-fall will rate high. So
will his efforts to get us out of two idiotic wars.A comment on
Reagan. He was a fine actor, but his abysmal understanding of economics has
saddled us with the mess we now enjoy. Supply-side economics was and is a
disaster, but the GOP can't seem to find an alternative. They keep beating
the same dead horse. Last Friday, for instance, the House passed a bill that
would cut taxes on corporations to the tune of $287 billion, with no offset at
all. Their theory? This will induce corporations to create jobs. Really?
Corporations are already sitting on piles of cash. They don't hire because
there is insufficient demand. No amount of supply-side subsidy will fix this.
Senator Bennett's thesis is accurate.
History will be even less kind to Obama than the present polls.His
administration:*Ran guns to Mexican cartels*Used the power of the
IRS to suppress political opponent groups*Abandoned Americans, including
an Ambassador, to die at the hands of militant terrorists in Benghazi and then
blamed the attack on a video when he knew it wasn't true.*Pushed
socialized medicine on Americans when the majority of Americans never wanted it,
and also lied blatantly to Americans about being able to keep their doctor*Used the NSA to spy on Americans at unprecedented levels.*Created a
"kill list" of people targeted to be killed by the government.Had
he been a Republican instead of the media's darling, he'd have been
impeached and run out of office in disgrace long ago.
Presidents during my lifetime:Roosevelt—Adulterer; imprisoned
thousands of innocent Japanese Americans; Yalta disaster.Eisenhower—Nuclear tests in Nevada that sickened and killed thousands of
citizens. But the interstate was a great idea. Also, got us out of Korea.Kennedy—Adulterer; committed troops to Viet Nam. Playboy
president.Johnson—Adulterer; Viet Nam. Nixon—Watergate cover-up cost him the presidency. But in other ways he
wasn't too bad.Ford—Pardoning Nixon was wise but it cost
him the presidency.Carter—Inept.Reagan—“Tear down this wall;” wouldn’t buckle to
Russian pressure. Probably best president in my life time. Bush
I—Knew how to get out of a war. Not much vision.Clinton—Adulterer; liar. Who knows how much damage was done to the
general character of the American people especially our youth because of his
awful example.Bush II—Inept. Republican house and senate but
did nothing about gay marriage or abortion. Iraq quagmire. Economic disaster.Obama—Liar; Obamacare mess; Benghazi cover-up; provided guns to
criminals; border is now a conduit; horrible cross-party relationships;
arrogant; still blames his mistakes on others.No wonder our country
is a mess.
Excellent insight by Senator Bennett. Outside of talk radio and Fox News the
recent poll holds little relevance. It just served as raw meat for the
anti-Obama crowd to feast on.
I think Obama will be remembered as a great president. He surmounted
overwhelming odds from his childhood. He piloted us out of the worst economic
disaster (Republican-caused) in nearly century. He extricated us from stupid,
wasteful, disgraceful wars (Republican-caused). He presided over a historic rise
in market values after the market collapsed (Republican-caused). He is making
affordable, modern health care for all a reality (unlike Republicans, who have
done exactly nothing to make that happen). And he has done all this in the face
of horrendous, racist, mean-spirited opposition from the worst of the worst in
this country. I admire him and I think future generations will, too.
Jimmy Carter should be very grateful to Barack Obama for taking over his spot in
I concur that public opinion polls are a miserable way to measure effectiveness.
I suspect that the example of Truman will also apply to Obama. Obama faced the
second worst economic disaster in over 100 years, inherited, like FDR, from a
Republican, hyper-business friendly administration that did poorly in handling
excesses. Foreign policy, two wars, was also unprecedented. But one thing no
prior President faced, as far as I know, was the opposition party irrationally
swearing to ensure the defeat of the incoming President, perhaps the only
promise that the Republicans have kept the past 5 1/2 years. Never have I seen
a political party subvert the interests of the nation as I've seen with the
GOP. In the past, I've supported people in both parties. But the past few
years has put me solidly in the camp of the anti-GOP. And they are only getting
worse. In the end, history will judge Obama well due to the mess he faced,
despite the hyper-partisan screaming we are hearing now.
The father of a close friend of mine was in Eisenhower's cabinet, who
described Eisenhower as aloof, uninterested, unwilling to make decisions, "a
successful military general who was a terrible president".Lincoln dithered and was very indecisive while the southern states seceded
from the union, until a Union general named Benjamin Butler repeatedly queried
Lincoln about what to do with escaped slaves who wanted sanctuary in a union
fort. Unable to get a response from Lincoln, Butler invented the
term "contraband" and gave refuge to the slaves because he feared they
would be used against his men if/when hostilities broke out. Lincoln eventually
acknowledged the Civil War was about slavery, and the rest is history.Being president is a very, very tough job. Reagan may have been so successful
because - as we learned in hindsight - he really wasn't fully
The recent poll suggesting Obama was the worse president is worthless. That
poll could have been taken of almost every president sometime during their term
or terms. Give it 20 years and then a more definitive poll can be taken. Polls
all depend on how the questions were asked. With all the negativity the
republicans are spewing out right now and the gullibility of our population it
is not surprising that the results are what they are. FOX news is probably the
most biased of all the news organizations. The truth is not in them.
The American people know nothing about history, which they demonstrate when
asked their opinion on historical matters.