Utah Jazz have until Sunday night to match Gordon Hayward offer

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  • pdhitman Glendale, CA
    July 12, 2014 12:03 a.m.

    Signing Hayward will not put jazz on a championship contender even a playoff team. As much as I like him as a player, the contract is too much to absorb. Might as well loose him than keep him and his contract will be a liability soon. 9 - 10 million will be more realistic on his caliber but not 15.

  • plyxply SLC, UT
    July 11, 2014 11:21 p.m.

    please Jazz, do not match this offer, major mistake! Let Hayward go, a max contract isn't going to help him with his pouting, feel sorry for myself, non shooting self.

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    July 11, 2014 10:14 p.m.

    Tim Duncan opted to accept the last year of his contract at 10.3 million. He is not the best player in the NBA, but is the "best" player on the "best team" in the NBA. Why would the Jazz even think of matching. Let Charlotte have him and deal with his contract that they wrote up. The Jazz can find a player that would be as good or better than Gordon and can also develop some good players, and we will be all right. Just my opinion (I have the Larry Miller mindset, sorry).

  • hamaca Baton Rouge, LA
    July 11, 2014 7:23 p.m.

    Sure he's being over paid for what he's demonstrated so far. However, I'm all in favor of matching given the alternative options, all of which are worse than matching.

    Unfortunately, there is not a line of top or even middle caliber free agents hoping to sign with Utah--fans would be happier if we weren't in denial about this.

    Also, this isn't exactly a max deal depending on how you define max. There are a lot of players who will be paid more than he will be, including non-franchise players. This will only increase in the next couple of years.

    Assuming we sign, we should then give him our full support.

  • Jazzsmack Holladay, UT
    July 11, 2014 7:07 p.m.

    A max player is player you build a team around.

    and Gordon is NOT max player that you build a team around.

    I mean is Gordon really like a Duncan. or kobe or james or...

    IIf you tie up the money and a place for Gordon, then you will mire the Jazz in mediocrity for years, only to try rebuild again.

    Now if you could trade him for something worth while...hmmm?

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    July 11, 2014 3:02 p.m.

    @panamadesnews I'm not necessarily saying it is the absolute right decision...just not equivalent with the magnitude of the AK deal.

    Ian Thorpe of ESPN says "..Gordon Hayward is the biggest winner in free agency..." When asked who is the biggest loser in free agency he said:

    "Thorpe: Whoever pays Hayward's salary. He is a nice player. I'm a fan. But the odds of him playing into that kind of value are very small. His team will struggle to recover down the road from this mistake."

    It bothers me just on principle even more given the fact that we are following Michael Jordans lead on a contract. He is known as one of the worst owners/managers/NBA talent evaluators there is and we are going to take on a decision/contract he made?

    Lindsey better be prepared for some serious backlash if Hayward doesn't turn things around.

  • VeraLouise Sandy, UT
    July 11, 2014 2:03 p.m.

    Whichever team he ends up with (probably ours), all eyes will be on every mistake or hesitation he makes with so much criticism on top of him. Is his skin thick enough to handle that pressure? I hope he can play beyond these expectations of not deserving these $$$. I'm excited anyway for the games to get started to see what we indeed have.

    Go Jazzboys!!!

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    July 11, 2014 1:20 p.m.

    What about the 15% trade clause in the contract. That would hurt the Jazz if they opt to trade him down the line. Also, the 4th year player option hurts, if he turns out to be a bust - it could be a Raja Bell scenario all over again. This match is iffy, but looks like it would be better to match than to lose him for zero dollars. The only other option is a sign and trade with Charlotte or a multiple team trade, bringing in someone similar or better than Gordon. But I don't know who that might be. Let's see if Lindsay can pull another rabbit out of the Jazz hat.

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    July 11, 2014 9:40 a.m.

    @forgetyourself & @AI Cougar

    Actually no it is not an AK deal. The new CBA has shorter contracts. AK's was 6 years and this is 4 years with a player option for just 3 if Hayward opts out. This still allows cap space to sign Burkes and Kanter when the time comes. So, it is not the same as the AK deal at all.

    The Jazz will likely match simply because they essentially need to spend the money to be near the league minimum or they get nominal fines. The alternative option is to sign a salary dump like a Biedrins to sit on the bench. Would you feel better about giving the additional 4-5 million/year over what Hayward is obviously worth to a guy to sit on the bench?

    They basically have to sign him because they can't afford to let him go for nothing. Clearly multiple teams were interested in talking big money with him which means his market value is close even after poor shooting last season so he probably is tradeable should the Jazz decide to do so in a year or two if he does not improve.

  • dan76 san antonio, TX
    July 11, 2014 8:43 a.m.

    Keep him...the SA Spurs will benefit.

  • IA Cougar West Des Moines, IA
    July 11, 2014 7:40 a.m.

    If Hayward doesn't want to be in Utah, let him go. This smells so much like the AK deal. He's good but max contract worth? Highly doubt it. This is a bidding war gone wrong. Another reason to focus outside of the NBA.

  • forgetyourself Layton, UT
    July 11, 2014 12:46 a.m.

    A part of me is not wanting the Jazz to match this offer. I mean he is a solid role player but I do not see him as an Allstar worthy of a max deal. It would be Andrei all over again. Fans will want him to grow better than this and this may be his limit. Not to mention he can not be a clutch go to guy. that is in my opinion.