Guys, take the emotion out of this! There are certain demographic facts that
even someone as far as DC can see. This district (as the rest of Utah) is GOP!
You are going to get the same voting pattern with a different Rep. even if its
not Love. A Dems chances of survival if somehow elected is two years, even if
he/she votes almost all GOP. Why do you think Jim M. opted out for another
term?Simple question for Owens:Will you vote to repeal
Obamacare if elected?No wishy washy answer - yes or no
Sometimes we can look at staffing decisions to get a better understanding of a
candidate. For example, a key person in a campaign, besides the candidate, is
its campaign manager. The candidate is, for the most part, placing all their
faith in this person. Mia chose Dave Hansen a well-known Utahn and political
operative. Doug Owens had a campaign shake up, and once again, when he looks for
a solution he looks outside of Utah. His new campaign manager is someone from
Illinois (I pray she’s not from Chicago) who was recently working out of
A win for Love is a loss for Utah.
"I love", Mia Love! I've been around for a long time and for
those on here to say those unkind things about her and the state of Utah,
demonstrates a complete lack of ability to make a real argument at all. We are all Americans and as a black american, and a candidate who has
been a mayor of a Utah City for several years, she at least deserves the
opportunity to run. And, If she were democrat, they'd be praising her as
what democracy is all about. You go, Mia! Make us all proud.
@charlyk: proof is obvious when it comes to performance the tree will bear fruit
based on knowledge and common sense. BO has little if any of the above in spite
of his education. Mia has more than her share of knowledge and common sense.
Obama is the worst President EVER. Mia Love has had to work to get where she
is. No arrogance with this woman.
Mia Love and Mike Lee . . . hmmm. It is a scary scenario to say the least.
She should be a sure fire winner, but it seems that too many people thought
during the last election, and so they didn't bother to go out and vote for
Love. That was a great loss for our Country.
@BR: It is not true that Jim Matheson continuously voted with the Democratic
Party. Below are quotes from Wikipedia about a part of Matheson's voting
record.Matheson voted against requiring public disclosure of bonuses
and golden parachute arrangements (agreements between a company and an employee
specifying that the employee will receive significant benefits if they are
terminated). This was a bill that the Democrats heavily supported and the
Republicans opposed; only five other Democrats voted against the bill.Matheson has always voted conservative in regards to the wars in the Middle
East; he voted in favor of using military force against Iraq in 2003, voted
against removing troops from Libya in 2011, and against removing troops from
Pakistan in 2010. Matheson voted against raising the federal debt
limit, as well as against both Republican and Democratic budgets that did not
reduce the deficit. Matheson, a former energy industry
businessman, voted against authorizing the construction of new oil
refineries.In November 2009, during intense debates over American
health care reform, Matheson voted against the Affordable Health Care for
Funny there's no mea culpa about getting the founding father's law
background or Senator Obama's legislative accomplishments wrong (I'll
be generous and not accuse Red Shirt of lying). And while we're
talking about legislative accomplishments, I'll note that in the first two
years of his first term, Senator Orrin Hatch sponsored 63 bills, of which one
(National Ski Patrol System Recognition Act of 1979) was passed. Just for
comparison. (To recap: Senator Obama sponsored 137, of which two passed.)I wonder, too, what in the world would count as an accomplishment if
being the president (not just "in") the Harvard Law Review is not. If
President Obama had been an astronaut, I'm sure Red Shirt would say it
wasn't an accomplishment, as he wouldn't have been the first (native
Hawaiian or black or Harvard grad). Keep moving those goalposts, friend.
It's fun to watch. It'll be particularly fun if Ted Cruz runs for
President and uses "alumni of the Harvard Law Review" as an
I have an Enid Greene feeling about this.
To "Martin Blank" so what you are saying is that Obama had a poor record
at best with no experience actually leading or being concerned about budgets or
actually doing anything.Being in the Harvard law review is not an
accomplishment. Obama was not applying to be the AG, he was running for
President. All that says is that he is good at campaigning, not leading or
actually doing anything.I am not discussing Mike Lee, he is not
President nor is he running for President.Again, where are
Obama's accomplishments prior to being elected President. All you have
pointed out is that Obama is an excellent campaigner. He does NOTHING.So, I am still waiting for an actual accomplishment.
And again: "As a senator [none] of the bills he sponsored or co-sponsored
made it to even a vote in the Democrat controlled Senate. He couldn't even
write a law that his own party would vote on."As a Senator,
President Obama sponsored 137 bills, of which two were enacted into law.
It's fine to be opposed to someone, but let's use the actual facts,
shall we? BTW, I can't seem to find any bills sponsored by Mike
Lee that have been enacted into law. He's been in the Senate a year more
than the President spent there. You'd think he might have done more by now.
I love how easily refuted some of Red Shirt's arguments are. From archive.
gov: "The delegates practiced a wide range of occupations, and many men
pursued more than one career simultaneously. Thirty-five were lawyers or had
benefited from legal training, though not all of them relied on the profession
for a livelihood. Some had also become judges." That's 35 of the 55
delegates to the Constitutional Convention--63%. And the whole argument is
specious. President Obama got Illinois to send him to the US Senate. He got the
whole country to send him to the White House. In other words, he got like-minded
people to vote for his ideas. How is that any different from "getting a law
passed." BTW, one of his other accomplishments prior to becoming President
was being elected president of the Harvard Law Review by the other editors of
that journal. (Past alumni of the Review include Stephen Breyer, Felix
Frankfurter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Antonin Scalia, John Roberts, Dean Acheson,
Ted Cruz, and Eliot Spitzer. Not too shabby.)
To "charlyk" but she has spent 10 years sponsoring laws that were
enacted and working with budgets. That alone is 10 years more experience than
Obama has.Having a law degree is nice, but it does is not a
qualification, and if that is Obama's only qualification for being
President before he was elected President, that is really sad. In many regards
I think that having a law degree is a detriment to politics. If you look at the
founding fathers, few had any training in law. They learned the same way that
Mia Love has learned about law, and they produced the US Constitution.So, a law degree is not an accomplishment.You should be concerned
about a politician's ability to get a bill passed. If he can't
convince like minded people to vote for his bill, do you really think he has a
chance convincing other nations to sign treaties with us or to join us in
humanitarian aid or combat?Again, what accomplishments did Obama
have before being elected President? So far you have nothing.
@RedShirtMITIs going to Harvard in itself a qualification for public
office? No. But in attending law school he received an education that cultivated
an understanding of how laws work, how to read law, and how to critically think
about issues--all things I think are necessary to being in the Congress,
regardless if he ever passed a bill he sponsored or signed a budget into law.
Mia Love went to college and learned to waltz. Not exactly inspiring.
Coronation within the Republican party yet again. We should be looking at all
candidates. I for one am highly interested in Collin Simonsen who is running
against Love on the Constitution Party ticket. Young, bright, principled and he
says running to help return our country to it's constitutional values for
his children. Sounds like someone we should at least listen to.
To "charlyk" prior to becoming President, when did Obama actually have
to be the one to approve a budget (not that he has, but he has that
responsibility)?Since when is a degree from Harvard or any college
or university a qualification for public office? That is just a piece of paper
that says he put up with lectures for a few years.Prior to being
elected President, what were Obama's accomplishments that he can take
credit for, what had he actually done as Senator besides campaign? As a senator
non of the bills he sponsored or co-sponsored made it to even a vote in the
Democrat controlled Senate. He couldn't even write a law that his own
party would vote on.Please, I am waiting to hear of the great
qualifications that Obama had prior to being President. Tell us, what were
Obama's qualifications to be President.
@RedShirtCalTechShe has equivalent or more qualifications than Obama? Are
you serious? He graduated from Harvard Law. She has a degree in the performing
arts. I'm a little fuzzy on how she's qualified to be a mayor let
alone a House representative.
Wow, I can't believe how many liberal racists/sexists there are out there.
Why don't the liberals want to vote for a MINORITY FEMALE from Utah? She
has the same, if not more qualifications as Obama, so the only reason why they
are complaining about her would be they are bigots. All those who oppose her
are bigots, that is what I learned from the MSM.
@The Classical Liberal 7:25 p.m. July 9, 2014Why is a Mia Love
victory a disaster...----------------Utah currently has
two Senators and four Representatives. Both of the Sentors and three of the
Representatives are hard-line extreme right wing fringe-dwellers. Only one of
the Representatives speaks for the interests of everyone in the state who is not
on the far right fringe (everyone from moderate, mainstream Republicans like me
to those who are far left Democrats -- as it stands now, those on the far right
call everyone whose politics are even a bit to their left "liberal"
and/or "RINO", and question their political standing and position, AND
the elected senators/reprsentatives don't look out for their interests).
If Mia Love is elected, she would join those on the far right fringe of the
party and the political spectrum and, as a result, a lot of people in Utah will
no longer have someone to look after their interests. Those of us who are not
"far right" deserve to have someone to speak for us. It would be a
disaster for the state if we lose that possibility.
Jason ChaffetzMike Leeadd to that -- Mia LoveUtah will be completely ignored in Washington D.C.And with
President Obama and President Hillary Clinton, we might as well turn in
our Statehood status, and return to being a U.S. territory.
I've always been puzzled by Mia. Her own family came here from Haiti on a
tourist visa, and her birth enabled them to stay in the USA. She herself is one
of the "anchor babies" the Right Wing so despises. Why then does she
make common cause with the Right Wingers who are so hard on other refugees who
risk everything for the chance at a better life in the USA? Isn't that just
a little ironic?
Mia will represent her district and Utah well. She will be a voice of reason
and conservative values that we need more of in Congress. And provide a
positive role model for young people of color across our nation.
If love wins it is because Utahns agree with her over her opponent. Therefore
the voters do win!
"...Love, if elected, will have a voice at the table...".If
you're not at the table, you're on the menu.Sadly, Utah is
simply on the menu.Vote Republican.Continue to function
as a Republican ATM.Utah will remain a useful Republican tool as
long as Utah Republicans dutifully serve those two roles.
Please tell me one good thing that Jim Matheson did in Washington for the
country? He voted continuously with the democratic party and we have the great
piece of ... that is the Obama Care.Mia Love is at least consistent with
small government and has not stabbed us in back like the democratics have
Mia Love will be a breath of fresh air in Washington. She is bright,
level-headed and intelligent.
Tea party bloggers rule.
Why is a Mia Love victory a disaster. I might not agree with everything she says
but then that's the case with everyone else. The libertarian in me likes
her limited government approach in economics and she does not seem to want to
impose her moral beliefs on others. So unless you're for an all-knowing,
all-powerful government what's not to like?
I, certainly, hope so!
Wonderful, Mia Love has been a great mayor of Saratoga Springs and will be a
@happy2bhere. There will still be Democrat president and even if the republicans
win more seats in the senate it will not be a super majority. So
whether Love wins or a democrat is a moot point.
Glad to read the left is going to be mad if Love wins. Just remember folks, if
the Democrat wins, he will be powerless to do anything in the dominent
Republican Congress, unless he works with the Republicans, which I suppose is
something the Democrats don't want. So, he will be nothing but be a seat
filler for at least 2 years. Love, if elected, will have a voice at the table.
I suspect that Mia Love is truly a surefire winner in the upcoming election.
This saddens me a great deal.
Mia Love labeled 'surefire winner' by Roll Call blogger========= In other news -- Utah is labeled 'surefire
looser' by the rest of the Nation.
A Love victory? What a disaster THAT would be, both for the state and the
Perhaps a little chat with Mr. Romney might be helpful.
With the entire State being the loser in this.
Go! Love! Go!
Lord help us all...