Gordon Hayward agrees to terms with Charlotte, but Jazz set to match

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  • Chas Layton, UT
    July 10, 2014 3:12 p.m.

    Haywood if good but I think he has already reached his peak. Meaning he will never really be worth the amount of money he will cost the Jazz. Trouble is, the Jazz has lost many good players by not paying enough to keep them. We will be a long time making the finals by getting top players in the draft and then after two or three years training them for other teams.
    I'm looking forward to the coming season with new coaches and new players. I hope they will be a team that will give 110% every game.

  • Mkithpen Sandy, UT
    July 10, 2014 2:14 p.m.

    Lock the doors at ESA - in the long run the Jazz will be history and the family will pocket millions of cash (which they deserve) as they sell out. The problem is they can't turn ESA into a dealership so what do they do with the building once gone?

    If the family were serious they would put a serious product on the floor starting with a recognized staff (head coach and assistants), marquee player or two, replace Lindsey and get serious at every turn in the road. I hope they let Sloan coach from his season ticket seats and have Snyder be the mouth piece while they bring O'Conner back what ever the cost and let him field a real team.

  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    July 10, 2014 10:46 a.m.

    I think you're all absolutely wrong. Hayward is our best player. Period.

  • Man in Charge Chihuahua, 00
    July 10, 2014 10:31 a.m.

    You can't pay this much for a role player. What if the next Wesley Matthews comes along in the next 2 years? I would want money to keep him this time around.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    July 10, 2014 10:10 a.m.

    The Jazz should have kept Al Jefferson or Millsap and let Kanter earn his minutes. Deng is the man the Jazz should be after. Hayward has proven he is not a leader. His stats are padded due to playing on a horrible team last year.

  • DOM Ivins, UT
    July 9, 2014 8:13 p.m.

    I hear it but he hasn't signed on the Jazz's dotted line yet, the Jazz have been saying this for months now.

  • Rockaria SANDY, UT
    July 9, 2014 7:30 p.m.

    I really don't understand Jazz fans. We let Jefferson and Milsap walk last year and now you want them to let Heyward go this year. Yes this deal is overpaying him but every player in the NBA is overpayed. If we don't pay Heyward we will have to overpay some washed up player or two just to get to the minimum salary set by the NBA. Heyward will be better with actual coaching this year. And this is not AK all over again. Not matching this contract will set the Jazz rebuilding plan back another couple of years and we will always be in the lottery.

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    July 9, 2014 7:17 p.m.

    I think that last year because the Jazz were tanking and because the coach was less that adequate, it very much affected Hayward as well as all of the Jazz players. With an apparant excellent coach this year and a great draft, it will be a very different situation. The Jazz are going to thrive and so will Gordon Hayward. If the Jazz do not match, it will turn out to be the same situation that they didn't match Portland's first offer a few years ago. That was because they had no money, which was tied up in the previous Kirilenko debacle. Kirilenko stopped working once he got his max contract. No way will Gordon do that. Look for him to have a great season, whether with the Jazz or Charlotte. The Jazz should match the offer. Gordon will be loyal. Go Jazz!

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    July 9, 2014 4:53 p.m.

    I hope...Lindsey considers a sign and trade...the only players i see that would be good for us...would be Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Cody Zeller...i am not sure if the Hornets are willing to part ways with either...but if we do get both...it'll boost our lineup and add depth...think about it...Favors Kanter MKG Exum Burke...Burks Zeller Hood Gobert...might as well add Jeremy Evans on the trade...and ask for some draft picks...i hope Lindsey do the numbers...on how much money is going to take...to extend Kanter...Burks...Burke and Exum...Gordon Hayward...as good as he is...he'll turn out like Joe Johnson or Rudy Gay...the kind of guys that are not worth max money...but gets max money

  • Americanvet Ivins, UT
    July 9, 2014 4:39 p.m.

    We might all have different opinions about signing Hayward to this max contract. If the Jazz do match the offer I really hope that when the season begins that we don't see fans booing Hayward. Our best hope at that point is that he settles back with the team and feels positive about being here. After voicing our complaints in these forums we then need to get back to the business of being the best fans in the NBA and give the team that boost when playing at home.

  • John Wicks Salt Lake City, UT
    July 9, 2014 3:40 p.m.

    Gordon is the new Benedick Arnold!!!!

  • camby SPANISH FORK, UT
    July 9, 2014 3:35 p.m.

    Hopefully the Jazz look at the alternatives before automatically signing the match. If we can get Lance Stephenson or Chandler Parsons for less money we should go that direction. I think it is a step down from Hayward and some might even say a step up. The Gilchrist sign and trade might be an option as well. I will say this. Hayward will seem like he is having a better year for Charlotte just like Big Al did last year. The numbers were pretty much the same as when he played for the Jazz but he made the All NBA 3rd team because he plays in the east and that is the only reason. Big Al is what he is and so is Hayward. He is not what Charlotte thinks he is.

  • FanOfTheSith Vernal, UT
    July 9, 2014 3:20 p.m.

    I guess it is the Miller's money and get to spent it however they want. Gordon should feel very fortunate to have that sort of support from the Jazz. Hopefully he is worth it if the Jazz match the offer.

  • QDiesel SLC, UT
    July 9, 2014 3:13 p.m.

    The Jazz need to go get Lance Stephenson and pay him 12 mil a year. He has more potential than Gordon does and hes cheaper. The Jazz are not going to be able to lure a big name here like Lebron or Carmelo, they have to take chances and Stephenson could become a big star in the NBA. I think the Jazz could provide a great stable environment for him as well. Maybe sign Gordon and use him as trade bait and try to land some pieces and get something for him.

  • Magnet Cedar Hills, UT
    July 9, 2014 1:21 p.m.

    Congrats Hayward for doing what everyone of us wish we could! Second, this one is on the Jazz - as Hayward asked for $13M last fall and the Jazz held at $12M. Now the Jazz are paying $15.75M per year. And by the way - the contract is a mid tier value range which is exactly what Hayward is.

    Finally, all of this salary stuff is relative to the revenue it produces. The owners aren't financially illiterate - they understand ROI. And the CBA assures that the athletes get their share.

    Supply and demand.

  • Mkithpen Sandy, UT
    July 9, 2014 1:06 p.m.

    @ Objectifield

    Sorry to disappoint - look historically not from you wishful thinking heart. This is strictly a money managed team. They got Snyder on the cheep plain and simple (but with a good story as you retold nicely)and as usual they will trade away their great draft picks once they develop in a year or two when they and their agents determine that they are worth more than the Jazz are never willing to pay. The only cash players ever kept were Malone and Stockton. The reasoning behind that was simple, both coaches Frank and Jerry saw there value and sold LHM on them in the long run and it worked. Now, new management (Mom and Son)run the team completely different. Don't set yourself up to be disappointed yet again by the Jazz Management and a team that can't deliver. Our new GM is visibly week, unengaged in the community and likely waiting until his exile in Utah ends so that he can go to a market that is easier to sell to potential players and coaches.

  • mdp Bountiful, utah
    July 9, 2014 1:00 p.m.

    Let him go, the only thing the Jazz would really lose is passing and the 2 point guard system on track should do that as good or better. Hayword's shooting and rebounding are average at best and defense a little better than average. They really need reliable outside shooting, and Gordo is not the answer.

  • crowhawk south Jordan, UT
    July 9, 2014 12:43 p.m.

    Not worth the money. Do you really reward average play with a max contract? He stats are below average 41% from the field 30% (One of the worst in the league) from three point range. I watched many games and it was not because of the pressure on him. He missed wide open shots. He turned the ball over frequently. Jazz will be a better team without him and a bloated contract. Let Jordan deal with the mess. This is more like an Ostertag mistake. Really he will make more that anyone on the Championship NBA team. I would take any of the 5 starters on San Antonio rather than him. Arrrrrrgh!

  • dhsalum Saint George, UT
    July 9, 2014 12:40 p.m.

    Its so easy to say let Hayward go, or do a sign and trade to get something in return then use that money for better players for less money. So easy to type that..

    First--We're not getting Lebron or any tier 1 free agent. Second--Guys like Pau Gasol, Luol Deng, Kyle Lowry, etc. are not interested in the Jazz (even if they overpay) because they are not contenders. Guys like Parsons, Bledsoe or Monroe are just like Hayward and their teams will match almost any offer. Here are some guys that already agreed to terms, so tell me which of these guys you would like to pay instead of Hayward..

    Channing Frye $32M
    Josh McRoberts $23M
    Jodie Meeks $20M
    CJ Miles $18M
    Spencer Hawes $23M

  • Objectified Richfield, UT
    July 9, 2014 12:23 p.m.

    @ Mkithpen:

    You couldn't be more wrong about Jazz management and the team. Some people apparently just have a propensity for pessimism.

    I spent a lot of time researching all the coaching candidates the Jazz had a realistic chance of getting. When it became clear to me that Quin Snyder was the best overall and with the greatest potential, I made a comment on this board a week before it was announced that he was the one who should and probably would be signed.

    I'm very excited they made such a wise decision. In just a few more months, you'll have a better understanding as to why. Snyder knows what he's doing and how to bring out the best in individuals. Multiple players on teams where he's been an assistant have verified that. I'm now more excited about this coming season... much more than last season.

    Add tot that that most NBA publications gave the Jazz an A grade for how they did in the draft, getting 2 high quality and high potential players that undoubtedly will make the team better.

    This next season will be the best and most exciting in years.

  • SlopJ30 St Louis, MO
    July 9, 2014 12:18 p.m.

    DN Subscriber says: “But, seriously, paying a person $65 million for 4 years to run around a gym and throw a ball through a hoop? . . Our priorities are out of wack. Badly.”

    Oh, please stop with the hand-wringing. In big-time entertainment (movies, sports, music) you can't quantify what an appropriate salary is based on the intrinsic value of what a profession contributes to society. Perhaps you've heard of capitalism? This newfangled system where supply and demand determine price, and, subsequently, salaries?

    If an the Jazz earned $131 mil in revenue last year and the franchise is worth an estimated $525 mil, why shouldn't the players get at least half? Are you suggesting the owners should bank it? How is that contributing to society? The players are the ones doing the bulk of the work to bring that money in.

    It's not like if the players don't get it, school teachers, cancer researchers and social workers would. What criteria should NBA salaries be based on in your re-prioritized world?

  • SD_UtahUter San Diego, CA
    July 9, 2014 11:56 a.m.

    OK, Dennis Lindsey it's time for you to get to work. It's actually unbelievable a team would offer Hayward a Max deal though. So are the Jazz gonna match and overpay Hayward, or just let another asset get away and get nothing in return? How come the Jazz haven't even bothered to talk to Chandler Parsons or Luol Deng yet? Well, I think a savvy GM would have a plan B in place. It's really time to get Parsons in here now and show the Rockets hand since they have that Max offer to Bosh. Give him an offer he can't refuse (~13Mil/year). I'd actually rather have him and Jazz could get him a little cheaper. Or do the Jazz have tunnel vision and they were really intent on matching any offer, or not matching a Max, or their Plan B was really to take on Salary dumps like last year. If they don't even bother to talk to Parsons I will have major question marks about DL. They quibbled over 1mil/year last year? Really??

  • Mkithpen Sandy, UT
    July 9, 2014 11:53 a.m.

    Who didn't see that one coming. Another example of the do nothing Jazz. No name coach and relatively obscure players on the new rooster. We continue headed down a road of planned destruction. I only attended one game last year and watched two away games on TV. This year I plan on using my time more wisely, like watching the snow melt. Guess I will go back to supporting either the Lakers or the Clippers. At the very least their ownership is entertaining even when the product on the floor is suspect. Jazz ownership is sadly very predictable, trade, waste, downgrade and retreat. Can't be too many more years until the team is sold and moved to a larger market where the owners care about the product being produced and the image that creates for the community. To say we have an NBA franchise no longer has meaning in Utah. Thanks LHM it was a nice run.

  • Cletus from Coalville Coalville, UT
    July 9, 2014 11:36 a.m.

    "Name one player in the entire NBA that the Jazz have a realistic chance at getting at a better price who is better."

    That's the $63 million dollar question.

  • Objectified Richfield, UT
    July 9, 2014 11:34 a.m.

    @ Brave Sir Robin:

    Knowing the Jazz said they will match any offer, several teams have been reluctant to even try for Hayward. Once they make that offer, their money is tied up until the Jazz decide if they will indeed actually match it or not. In the meantime, other possible acquisitions they were interested in will be signing with other teams.

    If Charlotte is making an offer beyond what they feel Hayward is actually worth, it's still possible the Jazz could decline to match the offer and the joke would be on Charlotte... stuck with a player they felt all along wasn't worth the money they offered. That would be a stupid and possibly huge mistake for any team to make just to try to stick it to another team. It would be very risky for Charlotte to do such a thing.

    As such, I think Lindsey was smart to cause other teams to give pause to making a huge offer to a player they probably weren't going to get anyway. They would rather be putting their attention and limited resources toward a more likely prospect and not waste valuable free agency time.

  • Objectified Richfield, UT
    July 9, 2014 11:15 a.m.

    It used to be, and still should be, that to be a max-paid player, a player had to be a consistent All-Star. And not just a flash-in-the-pan one-time All-Star like Kerilinko was. A consistent All-Star that shows himself worthy of that distinction year after year. Once they've proven that, then consider a max-contract.

    It's silly to pay that level of money for just a player's potential. Hayward has been playing for 4 years and never been that close to even being a reserve All-Star, let alone an actual All-Star. Smart management pays for actual production, not for the possible potential of. And so far, Hayward's production hasn't warranted this kind of reward. Plain and simple. Numbers don't lie.

    It's always possible Hayward could turn over a new leaf and become significantly more than he has shown so far. And to his defense, he's always played under mediocre NBA coaching. This new coach just might do it. But that's an expensive risk that Jazz management is about to take by rolling the dice.

  • bballjunkie Pleasant Grove, UT
    July 9, 2014 11:06 a.m.

    Jazz have to let him go! The future is Rodney Hood, he will be better than Gordan, yes we may have to wait a couple years but guess what we are not going anywhere for a couple years any ways.

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    July 9, 2014 10:58 a.m.

    I think the Jazz will, (1) use the 3 days, after Gordon signs with Charlotte, to try to find one or two good players who they can use the salary on that they will need to spend & if they find what they need, they will not match; (2) try to do a sign and trade with Charlotte; (3) or both or the above; (4) match the offer, in that order. That is all they can do. I don't know what would be best, but they will do what they feel is best for the franchise. Good luck. Jazz management!

  • Mike W Syracuse, UT
    July 9, 2014 10:52 a.m.

    Yes, it's over-paying, but the Jazz are WAY under the cap, and need to work to make league minimum (which this does) - this deal does NOT leave the Jazz' hands tied down the road the way some are thinking because of how much the cap will go up and because guys like Burke and Exum are not free agents until much later. Re-signing Hayward is the right move - there is no guarantee you'll get Parsons or anyone else with all the big money teams that will lose out on LeBron and Carmelo that will overpay for the next guys in line and be more desirable destinations.

  • Slugmaster West Valley City, UT
    July 9, 2014 10:43 a.m.

    Matching tells me that the Jazz have no idea what to do with their present situation. Instead of making some real moves to improve the team they throw money at an under-performing guy so they can hit the payroll minimum, or is it a case of doing Gordon a favor? I'm sure Lindsay is a nice guy, but a shrewd general manager is a must for small market teams. Tragic!

    July 9, 2014 10:42 a.m.

    Say it is not so. Will the Jazz match his offer, I think they will. Is Hayward wroth the money, not at this time, however like others have stated he will not be the main person bring up the ball. I hope he concentrates on his shooting and being a non-vocal leader on the court. Jazz have drafted good players, I just hope it will take them to playoff conference finals and beyond. I guess will have to sit back and enjoy the ride.

  • ddavies Ogden, UT
    July 9, 2014 10:39 a.m.

    The cost of the entire max deal for Hayward is estimated at $63 million. Reports are that Hayward wanted $13 million / year for 4 years last Fall for an extension. The Jazz were only willing to pay $12 million / year for 4 years. So while the Jazz were unwilling to pay $52 million last Fall, why would they be willing to pay him $11 million more than Hayward requested last Fall, and $15 million more than they were willing to pay last Fall? Sounds like a really bad business decision that would significantly over pay Hayward. They should let him go.

  • John Wicks Salt Lake City, UT
    July 9, 2014 10:26 a.m.

    Let the greedy wanna be great athlete leave. Sign Chandler Parsons who is 3 times better than Hayward. No loyalty in sports anymore, just greed. What a pity.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    July 9, 2014 10:23 a.m.

    Why did Dennis Lindsey say publicly that the Jazz would match any team's offer? He just showed his hand to every player at the table. All that does is invite everyone to artificially inflate the player's cost. It wouldn't surprise me if Charlotte had no real interest in Hayward. But good move on their part - they just hamstrung the Jazz for the foreseeable future.

    Jazz fans need to insist that Dennis Lindsey be shown the door. The way to do this is with your wallets - let Jazz management know they won't be getting your money, viewership, or support until Lindsey is gone.

  • Richie Saint George, UT
    July 9, 2014 10:23 a.m.

    I guess the Jazz have to pony up with some big money. Charlotte hasn't got much for a sign and trade. Hayward best work very hard and for the naysayers he is much better then AK-47 and the cap level is much higher now.

  • H2OSKI Alpine, UT
    July 9, 2014 9:45 a.m.

    Bad omen.

    What is Michael Jordans history in terms of judging talent? Horrid. He would not know a good player if it drove over him. He has a history of overpaying for underachieving talent.

    So, what does that say that he is willing to pay Hayward so much?

    Worse yet, what does it say that the Jazz are likely willing to match?

    The worse thing any franchise could do was follow Jordans lead on anything in terms of player evaluation and team decision making.

    My guess is the Jazz are just looking at it from the perspective that is is only a few million more than they were already willing to pay anyways and they have to spend to get to the league minimum salary cap requirement.

    If they think they overpaid they may trade him within a year or two and get something instead of absolutely nothing.

    It is only a 4 year deal instead of a 5 year if they had negotiated their own contract with him. Less in terms of long term cap effect/impact.

  • Idahotransplant West Jordan, UT
    July 9, 2014 9:29 a.m.

    Wesley Mathews was a better defender and more consistant and the Jazz organization let him go to Portland. There is plenty of potential and I see Hayward excelling in Quin Snyders sysrtem. Ultimately it is the Jazz's business decision. Remember the Millers are not hurting, they have movie plexes, a multitude of fannz stores, Prostops, Saxton Horn, KJAZZ 14, a multitude of car dealerships, finance companies, Miller sports park, the Salt Lake Bee's, etc. they may have other assets as well.......

    My concern is from USA today stating that Hayward stated he does not want to stay in Utah.

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    July 9, 2014 9:19 a.m.

    Like I've said numerous times, there is always one idiotic franchise willing to overpay. That said the Jazz are really only paying him about 4 million more/year than they were easily willing to offer him anyways and they have the money to do it. Would you rather they pay him or some throw away cap player like Biedrins?

    The reality is Hayward should get better now we have Exum and Burkes to handle the ball. He should be able to concentrate on shooting instead of handling and setting up the play 60% of the time under Corbin.

    Although he did not play like it last season this is not a contact situation equivalent to AK's. Charlotte is clearly willing to pay the money when Haywards shooting declined. If he even marginally improved or stayed flat then you could probably trade him if he ends up not working out anyways.

    The Jazz are still going to have to spend to get to the minimum anyways so may as well pay a player who will play vs a bench-warmer type like Biedrins.

    Excited to see Exum play in Vegas. Hopefully good stuff to come.

  • cedarpost Washington, Utah
    July 9, 2014 9:14 a.m.

    Jordan is insane. To offer that kind of cash to a player who was/is the 3rd best on a borderline playoff team (millsap, jefferson) is crazy. Jazz cannot match it, there are better options.

  • Americanvet Ivins, UT
    July 9, 2014 9:07 a.m.

    I've said repeatedly that I don't think Hayward is a max player and hope the Jazz don't match. That said, I know the Jazz brass are a lot more knowledgeable than I am and I love the Jazz and will always support them, but still don't like this deal.

  • gehelmke Bastrop, TX
    July 9, 2014 9:05 a.m.

    What has occurred here would be a nice business exercise for those of you interested in going into business.....Last fall, the Jazz offered this kid $48K for 4 years. They knew then that this was not going to be enough, and the kid's agent wouldn't accept it; but they didn't want to pay the max unless they were forced to pay it.....What followed was the normal course of events..season ended..July 1st came around..The kid's agent shopped him around....The agent found a team willing to give the kid a max contract......Now, the Jazz know that to keep the kid they have to come up with max money. The kid will sign with Charlotte on the 10th or 11th, and I believe the Jazz will match the offer on the 13th or 14th......Lindsey has been building this team around Hayward. I doubt he'll let the kid get away.

  • Why would I? Farmington, UT
    July 9, 2014 9:05 a.m.

    Why would I not be surprised if the Jazz match the offer? After all, we're talking about the organization that was deceived by a couple good games and subsequently buried themselves with the Ostertag deal and has never been able to get a good big man.

    This is yet another great example of what is wrong with the NBA and pro sports in general. No athlete is worth $63 million. For throwing a ball into a hoop....are you kidding me? The whole thing is beyond madness. It is insanity.

  • byronbca Salt Lake City, UT
    July 9, 2014 8:56 a.m.

    Re people who think Jazz should let Gordon walk for nothing: Name one player in the entire NBA that the Jazz have a realistic chance at getting at a better price who is better.

    Face it, right now there are only 2 ways for the Jazz to get better, they can overpay the players they drafted and developed or they can overpay in free agency like Charlotte just did.

    I just hope Lindsey learns from this and doesn't make the same mistake with Kanter and Alec. Not signing Hayward in October at $13 million a year was a huge blunder and not signing him now would be any worse.

  • Localmotion Arlington, VA
    July 9, 2014 8:55 a.m.

    I've been booing Hayward since he was drafted, along with much of Jazz Nation. I guess management sees something in him that the rest of us don't. He's a fine role player, a third or fourth option, but not elite enough to deserve max money. Let the Hornets overpay him. We drafted Rodney Hood, whose ceiling is just as high, if not higher.

  • Veracity Morgan, UT
    July 9, 2014 8:46 a.m.

    If we do not learn from history, then we are doomed to repeat it...I.e. AK 47.

  • RSL* Why, AZ
    July 9, 2014 8:43 a.m.

    I could see him as a great player if he was not the only play-maker on the team like last year on the Jazz. He could not handle the pressure. But if the team has other players that can relieve that stress for next year then I could see him being worth that kinda of money. But I also worry he could be like AK-47 and be a money pit.

  • JazzMan Centerville, UT
    July 9, 2014 8:42 a.m.

    Let him walk. He's not a max player so let him cripple Charlotte's future instead of the Jazz's.

  • Veracity Morgan, UT
    July 9, 2014 8:42 a.m.

    Do not let the door hit you on the way out.

  • Amazed Bountiful, UT
    July 9, 2014 8:39 a.m.

    Jordan sticking it to the Jazz one more time! Gotta luv it!

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 9, 2014 8:34 a.m.

    Good work if you can get it. The NBA is a group of private business people and can pay whatever they want, and that is a good thing.

    But, seriously, paying a person $65 million for 4 years to run around a gym and throw a ball through a hoop?

    What will be the combined salary of the entire staff of the life-saving Huntsman Cancer Institute over the next four years? How about the combined salary of the Utah National Guard, or an active duty aircraft carrier and its escort ships' crews as they defend our freedom? What about the combined salaries of all of Utah's school teachers for the next four years?

    Heck, what does it cost to pay 535 Senators and Congressmen for four years- but that may not be as good an expenditure as for a single ball thrower.

    Our priorities are out of wack. Badly.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    July 9, 2014 8:16 a.m.

    The Jazz ought to let him go. IF he wants that type of money, then he needs to become a money player. These big contracts are ridiculous for someone that has average stats. If he'd average 30 points a game and plays like Jerry West, then he might be worth it.

  • AFCoug Colorado Springs, CO
    July 9, 2014 8:13 a.m.

    As much as I hate it I think the Jazz match this contract. I have felt Hayward does not want to be in Utah for some time. I would not be suprised if he played down slightly last year and becomes an all star once he leaves, not because of coaching but because he is out of Utah and getting the max, his primary goals. Signing Hayward to a max deal though hinders Utah's future flexability and chances of landing other free agents. I'd rather go out and sign a couple $10M guys than this offer. Even go get a guy for $12-$14M. they are out there and available.

    Burks has shown more improvement year over year and Jazz should lock him up for the long term this summer. Kanter is still a mystery and I would wait another year to extend him.

    The one good thing about matching is in 2 yrs the salaray cap will go up with the new TV deal. At that time a $16M max today would likely be equivaqlent of a $12-$13m offer which is about right for Hayward.

  • cmsense Kaysville, UT
    July 9, 2014 7:59 a.m.

    Lets not be encumbered by another Kirlinko sized contract for a good but not great player. Let him go. We can find better values out there.

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    July 9, 2014 7:43 a.m.

    Another example of one who has done so little for so much.

  • chiksika Hyrum, UT
    July 9, 2014 7:04 a.m.

    He put Butler on the map, and now he can choose where on the map he wants to live. Great kid, great athlete. One that is good for kids.

  • Jefe-Ute SLC, UT
    July 9, 2014 6:31 a.m.

    Match the deal and let Hayward play a year under Snyder. If he is still shooting a low percentage or doesn't drastically improve in other areas, then trade him.

  • jazz4ever San Mateo, CA
    July 9, 2014 6:29 a.m.

    Impressive offer and we should certainly be happy for him. However, I do feel Jazz should not match it. His positives are good player, good attitude and all-star level skill and talent. But in the 4 yrs with Jazz, he has not shown that extra bit which is required to be the undisputed leader of a team. He reminds me of Keith Van Horn, who I liked very much. Gordon may achieve a little more or less than him in his NBA career but my prediction is it will be similar. Worth the max even then? Lets see what Jazz Mgmt decide.

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    July 9, 2014 6:24 a.m.

    This is plainly not good news. He is not worth that kind of money. His value has peaked. If it is still possible, the Jazz should work out a "sign and trade".

  • General Alpine, UT
    July 9, 2014 3:21 a.m.

    USA Today is reporting that Hayward says he doesn't want to play for the Jazz. It would be interesting to hear what others have to say about that.

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    July 9, 2014 2:26 a.m.

    now that Hayward has officially signed an offer...which is very overpaid...i hope the Jazz begins talks for a sign and trade deal...involving Cody Zeller and/or Michael Kidd-Gilchrist....and a 1st round draft pick...as good as Hayward is...its just too much...they are paying for potential...and what could be production from him...not because of what he has accomplished during the past 3 years...Now...the Jazz have three days to match...and i hope a sign and trade deal would work out....i think he will be effective there...since he won't be the main guy...and i think he'll complement Kemba and Big Al well...and would add some honest D...a definite upgrade from Gerald Henderson...the hornets are now scary....with Big AL Vonleh Hayward Kemba MKG and Hairston

  • kaysvillecougar KAYSVILLE, UT
    July 9, 2014 1:02 a.m.

    Michael Jordan was an amazing player, but as an owner, ahem, not so much. I really don't think the Jazz should give Gordon a max deal, especially with his shooting percentages last yr.

  • exchief62 ST GEORGE, UT
    July 9, 2014 12:06 a.m.

    If the Jazz match this offer they are insane..

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    July 8, 2014 11:56 p.m.

    I will try to be reasonable. Two separate thoughts. I think the Jazz match the offer sheet if they feel the rebuilding period to get back to the playoffs is 4 years and they don't really want to pursue a high profile player during that period and continue to play the youngsters. This helps keep them at the NBA minimum player salary and it doesn't hold them hostage for more than 4 years. On the other hand, I don't think Hayward proved last year that he is a leader or a consistent player for 48 minutes. His shot is very suspect and his defense is horrible. But he does help the team more than hurt it. So if the Jazz need to waste money for the next 4 years, re-sign him. If not, I would use the money to get two above average vets to come in and try and try and reach the playoffs now. Chandler Parsons is an option for less money. I am sure there are others too. Deng in Chicago is worth the money over Hayward.

  • Carnak Salt Lake City, UT
    July 8, 2014 11:52 p.m.

    Let me know when he is moving and I will help him pack.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    July 8, 2014 11:46 p.m.

    I think they're hoping for a sign and trade. They really don't have much cap space while the Jazz do.