Again it's laughable that USU's QB situation would be ranked that high
considering Keeton is always injured early. I never said it was higher. Name a
time I said SUU was higher. USC/Aub/Texas A&M/Wisc/Utah/BYU if they play
Keeton and soon to be Tennessee all laugh at Keeton. I feel nothing.
Stang0, digest the Deseret News article indicating USU rated 7th nationally at
QB, Utah 60, BYU 23 and get back to me how SUU should be rated above USU.
Imagine the folks who know rated USU this high, not you rating them low for no
reason whatsoever except the players come from USU. Only you are laughing at
Keeton, absolutely no one else in the entire football world is. You should feel
a bit mal informed.
@Go Big BlueCare to elaborate on what's "Way to funny"?
What I've said is fact. Double all those Keeton numbers if he stayed
healthy for more than 3-4 games tinplater. He was a backup for Sorensen and
Hill so naturally Olsen's numbers wouldn't look good to you. Keeton
has only established himself as a fragile player who get's injured early.
I wouldn't consider people who live in Logan a national following. Not
saying Olsen has one but to say that for Keeton is just laughable. Watch, now
that Olsen is the guaranteed starter for SUU those stats will be impressive.
And surpass your "great" QB Keeton. Let the jealousy shine thru
Stang0 just think about this for a moment for Keeton:Career total yards
5961Career td's 56career int 13And that was done
in only three partial seasons!Now let's see Olsen's
stats?SUU 115 yrds and 2 tds 44 yards rushingBYU 1 of 3 for 4
yardsYou gotta to be kidding me! One QB is an established player
with a national following,The other is barely more than a high school
Way too funny.
Yes he is tinplater. Remember his career at Alta High? He was a top recruit
out of High School and he decided to come to SUU. Anybody who isn't a fan
of USU tinplater. I've had enough of that personal stuff leaking out here
or elsewhere. If you want to say stuff like that please say it to my face.
Keep it classy buddy. Olsen is a top QB and you're just sad he didn't
go to Logan High or USU. Maybe then you'd have a starting QB who can stay
on the field for an entire year. Olsen is the real deal. Keeton is a wannabe.
Oh yeah...Olsen, a guy on everyone's top qb list. And endorsed by his
coach! If everyone in the US that knows anything about football were choosing
up sides and taking a QB, how many would choose Olsen over Keeton? One...a
thespian in Cedar City.
Go Big BlueHow much of a chance does Keeton have to play on
Sunday's if he's always injured during his college days? Give it a
few year for Brad. No one becomes an NFL Superstar overnight. Make all the
arguments you want, no aggie is an NFL Superstar. So you are wrong again. Just
give it time and Brad will show his skills on the big stage. Just has to find
the right team who is in need of a great QB. Keeton hasn't done anything
to impress pro scouts other than sit on the bench with an injury.
Unlike Brad Sorensen, Keeton actually has a chance to play on Sunday in the
His name is Ammon Olsen. Maybe you've heard of him. I can't think of
an exact quote but if an endorsement from SUU's head coach Ed Lamb
won't convince you nothing will. He's never been injured(Keeton is
always hurt) and he backed up the best QB in SUU history and no doubt the real
best QB in the state Brad Sorensen. He went on his mission and for some reason
transferred to BYU and was the backup for Hill last season. I don't agree
with his decision to transfer to BYU but unless your name is Jake Heaps you are
at BYU only if you are one of the best. Argument over tinplater.
Stang0, you got me...who is this returning quarterback to SUU that is better
than Keeton? Can you offer one opinion from anyone other than yourself to
support that assertion? If he's better than Keeton, then what watch lists
is he on? You dumbfound me.
His performance in 3 games max? BYU and Utah are desperate for a QB. We have a
returning QB who is virtually guaranteed the starting spot. And is certainly
better than Keeton. He has no skills tinplater. Stop those "You of all
people" comments. They are unnecessary. Let's be honest Two For
Flinching, you honestly have no clue what you are talking about. One of our
players who is from Cache Valley was a top student, had a top ACT score and was
a top player and still chose to come to SUU.
@ Stang08Honestly, no it's not. It's where you go if you
had poor grades/ACT scores and couldn't get into anywhere better.
Wrong Stang0, being nominated means your performance in previous seasons was at
the highest level and has attracted national attention. Chuckie is not going to
be "laughed off" any list. He is a great talent, and if he plays
uninjured will almost certainly have a stellar year. One thing for certain, we
will find out as the season unfolds. Utah, BYU, SUU would all jump at the
opportunity to have an athlete like Chuckie on their squad. Stang0 you are just
about the only commentator in the country who doesn't recognize the skills
of Chuckie. All you can focus on is his history of injuries. You of all people
should recognize and acknowledge the courage it takes to overcome physical
Dres is the most draft-able athlete. His dad was an NFL great, and he will soon
fill those same shoes. Those thinking the Utes will have problems with QBs and
offensive coaching this season, think again. Also, don't overlook the fact
that a healthy K Scott will add a huge dimension to the receiving corps!Chuckie is a phenomenal athlete, but his health and durability will be
tested and questioned should he go down again this season, as well as being
questioned about playing against inferior opponents (same problem coug nation
will be facing for years...!)Jamal? Great running back. Taysom?
Strong running QB. But as he and Taysom will realize...it's hard to pick
up the award when your body of work consists solely of beating up on Idaho
State-caliber opponents. Speaking of which, the only Ute cupcake game is
against ISU in the season opening warm up game, less than 50 days away! Go
tinplaterBeing named on the preseason list means nothing. Watch,
when the real season begins Keeton is going to be laughed off all the list
before anyone can say "WOW what a great Quarterback".
Stang0 why can't you just accept that being nominated for the Maxwell is an
honor and leave it at that?
Two For FlinchingSUU is a well respected four year college. You
have no proof. You should just accept that. tinplaterDon't be so biased. And the preseason lists mean nothing, as I said
@ sammygOf course BYU won again. The Cougars win the pre-season
national championship every single year....
BYU wins again. 2xObviously going to bowl games makes a difference.
Agree Stang0, no one from this state is going to win the Maxwell Award, but what
you fail to comprehend is that being considered is a huge honor, particularly in
view of the thousands of college athletes playing football. It is a very
prestigious nomination, particularly if your name is Chuckie Keeton because he
is the athlete that goes to USU
Only 1 from Pac-12 Proud? That doesn't bode well for a make or break
@ Stang08SUU is a big high school. Utah St. is flat out better any
way you slice it. You should accept that.
Yet another big award that nobody from the state will win. Especially if your
name is Chuckie Keeton. And the preseason lists mean absolutely nothing. What
it comes down to is the finalists. No one from Utah will make it even close to
that. Especially if your name is Chuckie Keeton.
Realistic Ute,What Utah State team have you watched the last couple
of years? Keeton is anything but a marginal athlete. As a Ute fan I used to get
frustrated because we didn't get any respect in the MWC. Now that the shoes
is on the other foot with USU, I gotta give credit where credit is due. Keeton,
is one of the top QB prospects in the nation this year. He was a monster in the
USC game last year and was the main reason USU was even in the game. No
disrespect to Hill, but he's not even in the conversations. That all can
change during the year. Especially if BYU find's their offensive rhythm.
But given their bodies of work so far, and the effectiveness of the coaching
staff, Keeton has to be the pre-sason Utah MVP.
Alas...another year of dismal offense is in store for Utah. Dres is a fantastic
player but limited in what he can do by himself. The other players on the list
are also fantastic players but are in much better situations, better offenses,
more impactful positions, etc. I think among this group Taysom Hill
is the legit frontrunner and he has way more upside than the rest. Keeton is a
nice QB and a more polished passer but he's just a marginal athlete, not
super fast and not a great arm, just okay in both areas. He'll put up nice
stats playing in the MWC and if he can stay healthy should be a contender. I
agree with the one poster who said Williams will have a hard time winning the
award when he's competing with his own QB for top offensive dog on the same
team. He's a terrific talent though and if that wasn't the case
he'd make a good showing.Good luck to all four players.
@factcheck"Congrats to all 4 players. In my opinion, Hill has the best
shot out of the 4 to win the award, but I also think he is the least likely to
make an NFL roster."-------------------------Even if
Taysom doesn't master the art of passing he'll still make an NFL
roster because of his elite athleticism. Right now the NFL over-values elite
athleticism (imo) and will always take a flier on a player due to their upside
more so than what they are capable of at the time of drafting. Look at Jake
Locker. He was marginal as a college QB but had tremendous athleticism and
would've been better served to move to LB but despite mediocre passing
stats at U-dub he still was a 1st round draft pick in a QB poor draft. The
Titans are still trying to work with him and likely this year is his make or
break year as a QB in the NFL. Taysom will make a roster even if
he's just an okay passer when he's done at BYU, he'll have enough
gawdy stats and ESPN highlights to ensure that.
@Chris B"Dres and Keeton are great players and I'll be cheering
for them all season!"Unfortunately for Dres, he's
handcuffed by the annual ineptitude of Utah's coaching staff when it comes
to managing the offensive side of the football. His misfortune is coming to the
utes before they got a big time football coach who can win at this level. Kyle
was an adequate coach in the MWC but has been exposed both for his inability to
manage the complete team (both offense and defense) and his inability to make
good hiring decisions (how many OC's has he hired now? 9 in the last 6
years or something like that?).As for Taysom Hill and Jamaal
Williams, not only will you be envious all season seeing their names on this
list all the way to the finals, but you're going to see one or both of them
on the Heisman list for most of the season as well (most likely Taysom).
Don't be too green Chris when Taysom is a finalist for a number of national
awards (Maxwell, Heisman, O'Brien, Baugh, etc take your pick).Go Cougars!!
Naval Lint,Twice as many drafted, but still finished at the bottom of the
conference....and will do so again this year.
Dres is an incredible talent. He needs a QB. Any BYU fan would leap for joy to
have him play for us. They would be lying to themselves otherwise. This is the
same for Hill and Williams. If either transfered to the utes they would welcome
them with open arms. Chuckie is more talented than any of them. hopefully the
knee doesnt have a lasting effect on his play. All three schools should be
proud to have any of these players playing for them.
Here is my order of who is most likely to win the award:1-
Chuckie2- Taysom3- Dres4- JamaalThe only reason I
have Jamaal at the bottom is because it will be tough for him to make a case as
the best player on his own team, let alone the nation. Mike Evans from Texas
A&M or Carlos Hyde from Ohio State are great examples of this. Because of
Johnny and Braxton, they had no argument for the Maxwell or Heisman because they
weren't the most deserving on their team.I think Dres will have
a tough time though, because he is their only legitimate weapon so he will draw
a ton of attention. Plus the QB position is shaky at best.
WA_Alum&Dad:Utah had twice as many players drafted as did our
indy-irrelevant little brother down south. And so did Utah St. The preseason
is when none of your players had to prove anything on the field. The NFL draft
is AFTER each team's players had proved their worth.Have fun
playing small ball.
I love watching Keeton play. His touchdown to interceptions ratio was phenomenal
last year. Glad he is healthy again.Hill and Williams are both juniors!
They should give fans of football in Utah quite a show over the next two years.
Waiting to see how the kids on the hill spin this: The number of BYU candidates
equals all other Utah schools combined.
Seems fitting Utah has half as many candidates as BYU. Go Cougs!
A receiver that doesn't have a quarterback isn't going to win any
awards. Watch all you want, but Dres isn't going to win any awards. The
three that have a better shot at winning the award play for the two Utah schools
that went to a bowl game last year.
I am surprised that only one Utah team player was on the BEDNARIK AWARD WATCH
LIST. Most of all the Utes, USU, BYU wins came from having a good defense. The
offense on all three last year was disappointing.
All four of these guys are deserving. I hope they all have great seasons. It
will make football in the state even more compelling to watch. Good Luck.
If Chuckie stays healthy he should make it. Same with Hill.ekute,I
admire your intellectual honesty and objectivity.BTW: that last
sentence was about as accurate and honest as yours.
Assuming that they all stay healthy and each has an outstanding season, Keeton
and Anderson will far outpace the 2 guys from byu in the running. Go Utes.
I think Keeton is the most deserving out of those four. We'll have to see
what role health plays this year.Here's to a big season for
All four of these guys are fun to watch and can make game changing plays at any
moment. Wishing all four a healthy 2014 campaign with lots of success.
Congrats to all 4 players. In my opinion, Hill has the best shot out of the 4 to
win the award, but I also think he is the least likely to make an NFL roster.
Dres and Keeton are great players and I'll be cheering for them all