A few years ago in one of the LDS Church magazines, there was an article about
beware of false prophets. Although no names were mentioned, it was obvious the
article was talking about Jehovah's Witnesses. As a former Jehovah's
Witness for 30 years who became a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-day Saints, I agree with this article.
higv,"....There are no famous Jehovah's Witness Politicians
as they don't run for office. However are there any famous Jehovah's
Witness actors or athletes?...."______________________________Michael Jackson was a Jehovah’s Witness.Dwight
Eisenhower was raised a Jehovah’s Witness. His boyhood home was where
meetings were held. He was never baptized when he got old enough. His decision
to go to West Point distressed his mother because of the Witnesses’
anti-war beliefs. Eventually, all of Ike’s siblings and his father
followed him out of the faith, all in his family except his mother who remained
a devout Witness until the day she died. Early in his Presidency,
Eisenhower became a Presbyterian to set a good example for the country. In
planning his Presidential Library, he included a non-denominational chapel for
people of all faiths.
I enjoy Jehova's Witnesses. There was one in particular who would come see
me every other month or so, and my parents said he came to visit them for a
while after I enlisted, which I thought was impressive considering their
opposition to armed service.It's not the full and restored
gospel, but if we had more Jehova's Witnesses than a lot of other
lifestyles we've got now, we'd be a lot better off.
RE: Darrel, (assuming your LDS)? No, I Believe in a Tri-une(Trinity) God, 3
persons one God.RE: Craig Clark,The Jehovah’s Witnesses’
NWT changes, Romans 10:13 "Lord" to "Jehovah." This revision
obscures the fact that the Lord referred to in verse 13 is the same Lord called
Jesus in verse 9. Since the JWs reject the deity of Jesus, the revision is made
accordingly.Correct examples: “Everyone who calls on the name
of the Lord will be saved."(Romans 10:13NIV)Paul quotes“…
Everyone who calls on the name of the LORD will be saved(Joel 2:32 NIV)The Greek word, kurios, translated "Lord" has been revised to
"Jehovah" over 200 times in the NWT. The JWs insist that this is the
only valid title for God, even though Greek-speaking Jews used "Lord"
and "God" in place of "Yahweh" (the source of "Jehovah")
throughout their Septuagint translation of the Old Testament. Also, the Bible
contains dozens of names for God other than Lord, Yahweh, or Jehovah.
@sharronaHow is that radically different from what we believe
(assuming your LDS)? We believe the three beings in the Godhead are
"gods" in and of themselves...it is their unity that makes them
"God"We believe there are many "gods" and hope to be
among their number at some point in the eternities. So, where is the
donn,"....Jehovah's Witnesses spell YHWH as
"Jehovah". The letter "J" doesn't even exist in Hebrew,
Greek, Latin...."______________________________Jehovah was
the English transliteration of the Hebrew name for God when the King James Bible
was published in 1611. Modern scholarship transliterates it as Yahweh, which may
also not be exact. It’s educated guesswork based on prevailing
scholarships of two eras separated by four centuries.Which employs
the more correct English consonants substituted for the Hebrew? Which employs
the most likely vowels? Did the name have three syllables as in Jehovah or two
as in Yahweh? We don’t know for certain and may not ever. Even Jewish
scholars of today and Israeli Jews who speak modern Hebrew don’t know for
sure what ancient Hebrew sounded like as a spoken language.Let’s give the Jehovah’s Witnesses a break on this one.
Jehovah Witness missionaries stopped by my home a couple of weeks ago. Being an
RM I was respectful and chatted on the front porch for a few minutes. His
enthusiasm about the Bible was palpable. I stopped him short and asked him who
wrote, compiled and produced the Bible as we know it today. His answer.....God.
Thanks for your time, and walked in the house.
@ ordinaryfolks:Why would you "doubt that this religious
camaraderie exists at all"?I've noticed in my fairly long life
that people usually find whatever it is they look for. If you look for animosity
from and between people, that's what you'll end up finding. If you
instead look for peace and friendship between people, you'll usually find
that as well. One thing is certain, there are honest and good people
in almost all religions who have good hearts and intentions. You aren't
helping yourself or your cause is by taking it upon yourself to judge their
motives and intentions... especially without personally knowing them. There are outliers and fringe elements in all religions. You're making a
mistake to judge an entire sect based on the actions of those few. But
apparently, that's what it is that you're looking for. So yes,
that's what you'll end up finding.If you are concerned how
an article about atheists will be accepted, then perhaps you should write a
guest editorial on the subject and see what happens. That would be much more
telling than making preconceived judgements about their acceptance or lack
RE: Jesus said the Father was greater than He not because Jesus is not God but
because Jesus was also a man; and as a man, he was in a lower position. He was
". . . made for a little while lower than the angels . . ." (Heb. 2:9).
Also in Phil. 2:6-8 NIV, Who, being in very nature God….” For in
Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form(Col 2:9).Jehovah's Witnesses spell YHWH as "Jehovah". The letter
"J" doesn't even exist in Hebrew, Greek, Latin. The English
language did not have a letter "J" before about 1500 AD. For example,
the very first edition of the KJV printed in 1611 AD, contained no "J".
Instead the letter "I" is used for Jesus, Joshua, John. AND the person
pronoun "I". These words were written in 1611 AD as Iesus, Ioshua and
JW's come by once in a while. I like to talk to them. I've invited a
couple to come back, but they never do. Too bad. There's a big JW meeting
house next to our Stake Center. I certainly don't see why anybody would
shun them. I've traveled and worked in many countries, especially in Asia.
If you listen to them, you see commonalities.My main issue with
anti-Mormon Evangelicals and others is that they are so interested in bashing
LDS beliefs that they have no interest in finding out what we actually believe.
This is certainly true of people who shun the JWs. When the Newport Beach Temple
had its open house, a large evangelical mega-church helped by providing parking
space. They also sponsored an LDS - Evangelical Dialogue which included speakers
from BYU. I'm encouraged by this.It will all work out in the
end.But if Atheists are right, we'll never know it.
Ah, another knock on my door from people eager to tell me who God
"really" is. They've got their script and now they want to tell me
the part I'll be playing in it."Sorry," I always say,
"I don't want to live in a script. There's not enough room for
growth as who I really am. And I don't believe God wants me to live in a
script either."I'm so grateful I grew up in the Jewish
tradition (which isn't a script but an ongoing argument). We don't
proselytize because we believe every righteous person has "a share in the
world to come." Live and let live. Develop your own spiritual
sensibilities. And if you don't feel the inclination to do that,
that's okay too.Just be good to people. And be good to
yourself. (Which doesn't mean to buy every gizmo out there but to live
with love and compassion for yourself. How can you give those to others if you
don't have them for yourself?)I'm thinking of putting my
own sign on my door. Not "No Soliciting," but "I'm Already
I have met some awfully nice atheists too. I wonder if an article that followed
the good works of an atheist family would get the same kudos from those who
possess one faith or another.And I seriously doubt that this
religious camaraderie really exists at all. I read and see an awful lot of
shouting and haranguing to a more liberal religious mindset from Mormons,
Southern Baptists and the unaffiliated evangelical churches.
They come to my home a couple times a year. Very friendly, and I always
encourage them to continue their work. Scripture wise there very shallow, and
they've learned to stop sharing a scripture with me. They drop off a
watchtower, and off they go now.
Another good story about religion and the community, like the one about Catholic
Bishop Wester. I wish my local media had this many positive stories about
religious groups and beliefs, instead of ones that focus on political issues or
people disagreeing or conflicting with each other.The last Witness I
knew well was a co-worker at a job where we were on rotating schedules to cover
24/7 needs, and we both ended up quitting because of conflicts between the job
schedules and our Sabbaths and spiritual lives.The human race is
full of good people who love and serve God in their own way, and make the world
a better place. As one person said that was quoted in the article,
"Jehovah's Witnesses, they inspire me. They are out and about doing
God's work, God's will." I think that is what all of
us who love God hope and wish to do, and it's uplifting to read about
people who really do it.
While I may disagree with various teachings of the Jehovah's Witnesses, I
do not presume to judge what is in their hearts or where they may stand before
their maker. I have had the opportunity to learn and study about several
religious faiths, including the Baha'is, Sikhs, Jehovah's Witnesses,
Islam, Eastern Orthodoxy, and others. I look for that which is "virtuous,
lovely, of good report, or praiseworthy," and I usually find it.
I got my stranger door knocking in as LDS missionary. A few have came by and I
took there pamphlets out of curiosity. Funny thing on Mission people kept
wishing us merry Christmas. Though Jehovah's Witness's party they do
not believe in holidays. I visited a Kingdom Hall in Sarasota Florida on
Mission around Christmas and they had an outing for December 25th, the worldly
holiday of Christmas. They were friendly to us after the service. There are no famous Jehovah's Witness Politicians as they don't run
for office. However are there any famous Jehovah's Witness actors or
athletes? I did stop by one business for some materials and one guy was
quoting many scriptures, wondered if he was Jehovahs Witness.
Great article! On my LDS mission I met a dozen or so pious Jehovah's
Witnesses. I was impressed with their intellect and devotion to their faith.
Their zeal for missionary work is something I strive for in my own faith.
RE: Sports Are Great,who am I to call them wrong? True,But(John 1:1
KJV,NIV,NASB,…)In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with
God,and the Word(Jesus)was God. “Jesus is God”.(John 1:1
NWT)“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the
Word was ‘a god.” In the Jehovah’s Witnesses New World
Translation,Jesus is‘a god”.
We've been visited monthly for a number of years by a nice JW couple.
We've had some great talks about religion and politics, I have to say, we
joke that they are our home teachers of another religion. They think about what
message might be relevant to our life, stop by regularly near the end if each
month, chat briefly with us at the front door, leave a Watchtower or two and
leave. While we have made it clear we believe and are content with our religion
we respect their sincerity and appreciate that they feel we are a family worth
Great article..There are so many parallels between the JW and LDS philopospy of
belief. I think we could learn allot from each other.
Furry,Great story. I also support the brethren's decision to
have missionaries knock doors throughout the world. If the brethren have
decided that's what we should do - who am I to call them wrong?
It is nice to see the Jehovah Witness doctrine spelled out in a positive way. It
seems like the most bitter vile people try to shout down their message and so we
never get to truly find out what it is. Thank you Deseret News.
My husband an I live next door to a Jehovah's Witness family. They are the
salt of the earth and are excellent neighbors. They know we are LDS and we all
respect each others beliefs. when my husband was critically ill, they exercised
their faith on his behalf (and helped me temporally to deal with his
hospitalization and illness). When one of them was ill we exercised our faith
on their behalf (including with their approval putting the ill family
member's name on the prayer roll). In each case we recognized that the
other family was doing its best according to the tenets of its faith to help us.
By agreement we all work to convert through example and not door-knocking.
That is how the Bible message should be spread.